I definitely agree that scouts should not be combat oriented at all, but purely stealth and intel oriented. In exchange, CCP can then release a new specialization from the light frame called "Assassin" which is a light frame more focused purely on combat.

Same could be said for Scouts, Logis are going to become true support classes, they'll get bonuses to support equipment, and their passive repping is finally being removed.

On top of that, CCP will hopefully do the smart thing of making Logi Slot layout mirror that of the Assault class'.

Its been said before, Scouts should be the anti-logi, using EWAR to their advantage to disrupt the advance of the enemy team, using items like Webifiers, Cloaks, and REs.

If I wanted a class centred around frontline combat, I would've went for the Assault Suit, which is why I think Min Scouts becoming a 'Combat Scout' is just absolutely ridiculous.

Chromosone Scouts were good, but they were not what Scouts are suppoused to be.

If CCP give Scouts a huge boost to EWAR technology when it arrives, they can become some of the more useful classes in the game.

Could you imagine a Scout that could use Jammers to scramble the Radars of enemies, a Scout that can near insta-hack objectives, a Scout that can cause enemies within a certain radius to slow down temporarily, and maybe even a Scout that can cause the weapons of enemies to jam.

I want Scouts to be Scouts, not low HP version of an assault suit.

If you dont give a **** about EWAR than I dont see a reason with speaking to you any further.

You clearly dont understand how useful and rewarding EWAR will be on the battlefield.

You clearly an idiot that doesn't understand what the word Scout means.

Oh woah, bringing in real life examples. I give it a couple of more posts until you start pulling out Wikipedia links, and real life numbers from your ass.

Please, if you're going to do nothing but stick up the thread with your ideas on how to make the Scout an irrelevant role on the battlefield, than please bring your stink somewhere else.

Oh and, in what military role does a Scout run around at +10m/s with dual knives in hands, stabbing multiple people instead of using his ******* gun.

You see how idiotic real life examples are now?

Now you're just being a prat, please stroke your e-peen elsewhere.

And I've never brought in real life examples.

This is an FPS. All suits are in a combat role.

You want scouts to be direct combatants just like Assaults and Heavies.

I and Knight want scouts to be indirect combatants that cripple the enemy before they kill them. In no way does being an indirect combat specialist eliminate you from being able to take a part in combat. My gallente scout doesn't receive any combat bonuses and I do just fine in the killing department (and would continue to do so without a sidearm).

You seem to be confused as to how I am using the terms "direct combat" and "indirect combat"

Direct combat - Rush enemy (regardless of direction), then shoot enemy.

Indirect combat - Find enemy group, cripple enemy group (tacnet jam, webify, etc.), and then shoot weakened enemy.

Notice both still end in combat.

Nobody said nerfing, I dont think the word was uttered once in this thread, just replace the bonus for christsake.

How does a simple request turn into 4 pages of an arguement with people that dont understand that Scouts need to focus on EWAR before combat.

Scouts should still retain some of their combat effectivness, but they should be EWAR before direct combat.

No they shouldn't, the Heavy is a combat orientated role, a Scout should never beat a Combat Role in a fair one versus one, which is why they have EWAR to tip the battle in their favour.

Holy crap, its not that hard to understand.

Fine.

*Scout webifies Heavy*
*It's super effective!*
*Heavy has reduced movement & turn speed*
*Scout carves up heavy with NKs*

Which is why the scout's role bonus needs to be expanded to all EWar (not just cloak), the logis bonus restricted to non-EWar equipment, and for EWar to have a high fitting cost.