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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.01.13 17:38:00 -
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Please leave my bonus alone. |
mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.01.13 17:55:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:mr musturd wrote:Please leave my bonus alone. If the Knives recieve a 25% buff there shouldn't be a problem with it. The bonus is ridiculous.
If knives received a 25% buff any suit could out knife the minny hello speed tanked logi with knives, you knew the bonus when you spec'd into it my friend, I suggest you grab a pair of knives |
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Posted - 2014.01.13 17:58:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:We Scouts have always nagged on about how useless we are in competitive gamemodes, what is more useful to your team in PC?
A Hacking Bonus (Like the on the Logi mk.0 got, for all who dont know, it allowed the Logi to hack at a speed of 5s through just passives, compared to a base of 10s) or 25% Extra Damage to Nova Knives.
I do just fine with my knives in PC |
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Posted - 2014.01.13 18:05:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:mr musturd wrote:If knives received a 25% buff any suit could out knife the minny hello speed tanked logi with knives, you knew the bonus when you spec'd into it my friend, I suggest you grab a pair of knives Aren't knifers always talking about how effective a counter back pedaling is to knifing? A logi knifer is going to have it much, much worse than the min scout (as long as charging while sprinting isn't added). Edit: Anyways, release the T3 assassin class. Problem solved.
Like I've said many times if your trying to knife an aware enemy your doing it wrong, good knifers don't really have a problem with the back pedalling knifers like Moody and I use the knife as a situational weapon and don't run head on trying to kill a guy with a effing knife |
mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.01.13 18:07:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:mr musturd wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:We Scouts have always nagged on about how useless we are in competitive gamemodes, what is more useful to your team in PC?
A Hacking Bonus (Like the on the Logi mk.0 got, for all who dont know, it allowed the Logi to hack at a speed of 5s through just passives, compared to a base of 10s) or 25% Extra Damage to Nova Knives. I do just fine with my knives in PC But that doesn't make you anymore useful than the Logi who gets a comparable score with his AR.
The thing is I out kill the logi with the Ar and the assault guys in Pc while stopping hacks in one swing of my knives |
mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.01.13 18:09:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:mr musturd wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:mr musturd wrote:If knives received a 25% buff any suit could out knife the minny hello speed tanked logi with knives, you knew the bonus when you spec'd into it my friend, I suggest you grab a pair of knives Aren't knifers always talking about how effective a counter back pedaling is to knifing? A logi knifer is going to have it much, much worse than the min scout (as long as charging while sprinting isn't added). Edit: Anyways, release the T3 assassin class. Problem solved. Like I've said many times if your trying to knife an aware enemy your doing it wrong, good knifers don't really have a problem with the back pedalling knifers like Moody and I use the knife as a situational weapon and don't run head on trying to kill a guy with a effing knife And this is where Logis will fail. Why? Because of their Suit Profile, an enemy will always be aware of their position, and if they sacrifice biotics to fill their Lows with Complex Dampeners they're not nearly as fast as a Minmatar Scout.
Its not that hard to damp an assault or logi suit and keep your speed. |
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Posted - 2014.01.13 18:46:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Logistics Mk.0
Highs
2x Complex Sidearm Damage Mods (18.7% with Proficiency its 33.7% I think)
1x Complex Shield Ext.
1x Enhanced Shield Ext.
(408 EHP)
Lows
2x Complex Kinetic Catz (Sprint of 9.18m/s)
2x Complex Profile Dampeners (Enough to dodge Proto Scanners)
Weapon
Ishukone Nova Knives
Equipment
ADV Active Scanner
REs
R-9 Uplinks
(Three Equips Compared to a Scout's one)
Nade
Flux Nade
You're kidding yourself if you think this bonus makes Minmatar Scouts in anyway unique.
Damage of Ishukone Knives, quick swipe = 534.8 Damage
Full Charge = 1069.6 Damage
You want a cookie? I can achieve 1428 damage from a charge without any damage mods. I already know logis are the best suit at everything |
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Posted - 2014.01.13 18:51:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:mr musturd wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Logistics Mk.0
Highs
2x Complex Sidearm Damage Mods (18.7% with Proficiency its 33.7% I think)
1x Complex Shield Ext.
1x Enhanced Shield Ext.
(408 EHP)
Lows
2x Complex Kinetic Catz (Sprint of 9.18m/s)
2x Complex Profile Dampeners (Enough to dodge Proto Scanners)
Weapon
Ishukone Nova Knives
Equipment
ADV Active Scanner
REs
R-9 Uplinks
(Three Equips Compared to a Scout's one)
Nade
Flux Nade
You're kidding yourself if you think this bonus makes Minmatar Scouts in anyway unique.
Damage of Ishukone Knives, quick swipe = 534.8 Damage
Full Charge = 1069.6 Damage You want a cookie? I can achieve 1428 damage from a charge without any damage mods. I already know logis are the best suit at everything I just proved how useless our bonus truly is when compared to a Logi, yes, I'll take that cookie. Nom nom nom :3 no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k
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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:22:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:mr musturd wrote:
no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k
You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive game modes like PC) You think a knife only fit is competitive in any mode? Thats what the Minmatar Scout will be post Scout changes though.  you must've overlooked the part where they said minny will be keeping its sidearm and will be the combat scout
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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:46:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:This is what it should be:
5%/lvl DMG bonus to knives
5%/lvl bonus to biotics effectiveness
The melee bonus is garbage. WHO EQUIPS KNiVES AND then melees!? Me when my R1 bugs out and it melees instead of knifes...  But really though I think they're trying to make it so if you equip a different side arm meleeing would still be useful but... lets be honest are you going to punch someone if you have a scrambler pistol instead of a knife? I know I won't. Unless that melee is going to buffed so I can one hit kill MLT, STD, and some ADV suits that melee bonus is absolutely worthless in a realistic combat scenario.
I use the melee as a finisher for when the knives don't kill, I believe you do the same moody |
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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.01.13 20:47:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Wait! Now people want to nerfing the NK bonus?
Omg. The minja is going to become extinct with all this bs.
I'm not going anywhere mollerz ill be the only fool running around in a minny, I figure I've stuck with it this long why change now |
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Posted - 2014.01.13 20:52:00 -
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mollerz wrote:mr musturd wrote:mollerz wrote:Wait! Now people want to nerfing the NK bonus?
Omg. The minja is going to become extinct with all this bs. I'm not going anywhere mollerz ill be the only fool running around in a minny, I figure I've stuck with it this long why change now Well if the knife bonus goes away, you can be any scout then really.
Nope minny till biomass |
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