Not confident enough to bet?

What and have you speed up the frames per second in an attempt to cheat no thanx. I'll post my own video. You see ratamaqu doc can do some really cool stuff with his video capture. Screen in screen you'll actually be able to see him pulling the DS3 trigger while we time how long it takes to empty a clip.

Like this video he made to prove that he doesn't use a moded controller. I'll upload the video tomorrow, well see how well you like me then.

Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ty2WZ82k8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Your buddy can shoot very quickly, he overheated the ScR in 11 shots at one point. He should easily be able to max out the CR.

But of course that won't happen right?

Stop being a ***** and bet me. Come on, you are SO confident, even though all of the math says you are wrong, and of course this trigger clipping has never been claimed by anyone else, let alone proven. But none of that matters right?

Stop being a ***** and put your money where your mouth is. Come on if you are so confident this should be free isk.

So OP, no comment about my post on page 4?

you know, adresing the actual issue, not merely letting the numbers speak?

Sorry dude, not trying to be rude but I really don't see anything worth replying to in your post. Probably why I didn't reply to it when I first read it.

Rabble rabble rabble. The SCR touched me in a no no square. Rabble rabble rabble. Butthurt. Rabble rabble rabble. Trying to call the SCR op.

Lol, butthurt.

All I did was mathematically demonstrate an imbalance where I found it.

Sound to me like you're the one who is butthert.

Maww, what's wong, you fraid the gonna take away your church. Poor baby.

Please stop saying that, you didn't prove anything other than you barely understand mathematics.

CR does way more damage than any other rifle (sans turbo)

CR has a better damage profile than any other rifle

CR is the easiiest to fit rifle

CR has decent range (not the lowest by any means)

CR does 30% more damage per trigger pull than the SCR.

CR doesn't overheat.

Finally, we have proven anyone who compares the SCR with another rifle using damage per clip is quite simply mentally handicapped.

Yap, just keep on flapping those lips. I got your number. Just wait for it.

Refresh my memory... what drawbacks does the CR have again?

Just stop feeding the troll everyone, eventually it'll die.

Refresh my memory... what drawbacks does the CR have again?

Balanced damge types?? Weak against any type of tank?? no

Low DPS? (ha, try the highest)

Overheat? nope

Hard to fit? nope

Lets contrast that to the ScR

Only normal damage profile (you know, only avergaed to 100%)? yep

between 11-18 shots and then you are helpless for 5 seconds? yep

Requires a specific suit with 2.4 mil sp to be truely effective? yep

Hardest to fit rifle (almost hardest to fit weapon)? yep

Lowest sustained DPS? yep

Can kill the user? yep


OH right, the ScR is just ridiculously overpowered.

INb4everyAmarrplayersaysDontTouchMyScrambler!

Oh wait.

You forgot the difference in range and,
the high alpha of the scr, and,
ammo Count.

The Scr out ranges the CR, so in those situations the Scr is God and the CR is useless.

High alpha Equals dead enemies before they can get to cover, and this is not a smal thing, high alpha dps and protection are normally the 2 most valuable stas for a slayer fitting.

With my scrambler rifle Assault fit I can use either a Scanner or a Rephive or whatever, it never runs out of ammo. Same setup With a CR makes me dependant on carrying an enhanced nanohive or better. So for the same offensive capabilities i need either a Scr or a CR + Hive. So which ones of these are easiest ot fit?

And you keep talking like the only possible use for the Scr is to fire Close to overheat and then wait for 5 Seconds. Thats very far from true. Mysalf and many experienced Scr players sort of "spreads out" Our fire, smal bursts that doesn't deplete the over heat. When in CQC against multiple opponets its a mater of switching between the Scr and a sidearm, I've mowd Down Squads doing just that.

The way you foreward Your arguments leads me to think that the Scr isn't a gun for you. Its a sort of "gentlemans" weapon that takes a lot of skill to use well, but when wielded by the righ hands its among the best guns we have.

I mostly use my CR these days, I'm a CQC player after all, but I'm still very glad I specced into the Scr, its still a beast of a gun. That you can't use it properly is entirely Your fault. I see Your Math, I agree on that part. I do not however agree at all that the CR is any kind of OP compared to the Scr.

Of course this entire thread is flawed. The OP just picks weapons randomly to compare (the RR, the ScR, the AR, and the assault CR?? already off to a bad start.) Then it picks a randomly chosen trigger squeeze parameter to judge the SCR with, then it ignores overheating, and of course complete ignores ranges and fittings.

Haters Gona hate.

I took into account everything that was necessary. You can prove me wrong by presenting relevant factors that Were not in the OP.

You mean like assuming that every scrambler rifle is fired by a champion revolver quickshooter?

I activate my tunnelvision scrub mode because I need to defend my crutch

unfortunately this was about 5 seconds. using watches and counting is too hard for you and you want to discuss and analyze numbers?



this guy never used the CR and has zero credibility.

he does not even know that the CR has a very short delay between each burst.

first, pressing the button as fast as possible does nothing because you cant fire another burst when the weapon is still firing. second, anyone that uses the CR most likely already realized that there is a very short delay between each burst and if you tap your button fast & uncontrollable you will hit the exact moment where the delay kicks in and you will in the end fire slower because your next button press happens some ms later. if you want to max out CR dps, you need to tap your fire button in the perfect rythm.

The proto ScR is capable of outputting 1,742.3094 damage before overheat (with pro 5 and two damage mods; a common enough thing). So I think that that qualifies it to be classed a weapon capable of taking on multiple targets simultaneously. And with it having the lowest TTK out of all the rifles by an extreme margin, I would say that my classing it as imbalanced/OP is acurate.

*Shakes his head* who do you guys think you are trying to fool here? I use th damned thing. I am prof 4 with it.