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Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2159	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:10:00 - [1] - Quote So i made a LAV and my proto FG fit again but i wouldnt be soloing vehicles because i use TEAMWORK and it makes the job easier I was in a squad, mostly a 4-5man group and yes we did deploy tanks In the LAV was me and spkr both proto FG and prof except i was only prof 1 and Spkr is prof 4 i think, the rest of the group either groundpounded or had a MLT/STD tanks Match 1 1 gunlogi - Drove the LAV around looking for it and when we found it we parked behind it and shot it to death, 3 shots each and he did have a hardener running Match 2 1 soma - Once again driving around looking for targets, found it parked behind it, aimed at the sweetsport and alpha'd it, 1 shot each Couple of matches go by no vehicles Match 4 2 gunlogi + 1 sica - This time i was solo at the start of the match, group was awol a little bit for the 1st kill, drove a LAV around found 2 enemy tanks next to each other, 1 guy had a milita swarm so i hit the tank he was hitting, 3 shots and it down 2nd tank was retreating after hardeners went off from swarm guy and i parked to where he was heading to and 2 shot it 3rd tank was inside a compound and 1 of our group had a tank out who was taking it on and i popped it as it retreated where i was waiting Match 5 1 Maddy & sica - Maddy inside a compound and i 4 shot it, no help and the sica i happened to warbarge strike it and got lucky i didnt know it was there Unlike most AV we were prepared to chase the tank around, my LAV was built for chasing stuff around and was quick as hell and AV wise were built our suits for max damage The tanks we did find were mostly crap because mlt is, id say a couple were not too shabby mainly the gunlogis and the pilots were not too bad, they retreated and used hardeners and ran away quickly When we did clear the field of tanks no more were spawned back in, even MLT tanks we took out were not replaced, the majority of the time we had to swap out to infantry/tanks because they didnt gives us any vehicles to shoot at Skirms and domo we played were not tank heavy, at most that night we saw 3 enemy tanks in 1 game, we made a couple of tanks get recalled and generally the field was clear because of 2ppl So far so good and i didnt lose a single suit to an enemy tank that night or even lose my LAV tho i nearly did since i was using my LAV as cover, enemy installations were more dangerous than a tank since they have better aim Does anyone have any questions or need tips on how to AV? Intelligence is OP
Amarrgheddon Warcaste 43	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:41:00 - [2] - Quote No I find a militia railgun on a militia sica dous quite well. I put up more impressive numbers by myself. It took you two proto suits and a lav. Plus I suspect you are lying. You provide no proof.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2160	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:44:00 - [3] - Quote Amarrgheddon wrote: No I find a militia railgun on a militia sica dous quite well. I put up more impressive numbers by myself. It took you two proto suits and a lav. Plus I suspect you are lying. You provide no proof. MLT tank does quite well, i have that on an alt because i have no AV I could have put proto FG on a templar heavy suit tbh, but i might aswell fo all the way and get a better tank too plus the LAV is a must for any AV, how do you chase that which moves when you yourself cannot move? I have 4 witnesses to this feat of AV action, is it because i can do something that you cannot? Intelligence is OP
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 310	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:48:00 - [4] - Quote HOLY CRAP WHO WOULDA THOUGHT A LITTLE FREAKIN TEAM WORK WOULD BE SO OP, I CANT BELIVE U KILLED A MILITA TANK THEY ARE INVINCIBLE!
Amarrgheddon Warcaste 43	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:50:00 - [5] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Amarrgheddon wrote: No I find a militia railgun on a militia sica dous quite well. I put up more impressive numbers by myself. It took you two proto suits and a lav. Plus I suspect you are lying. You provide no proof. MLT tank does quite well, i have that on an alt because i have no AV I could have put proto FG on a templar heavy suit tbh, but i might aswell fo all the way and get a better tank too plus the LAV is a must for any AV, how do you chase that which moves when you yourself cannot move? I have 4 witnesses to this feat of AV action, is it because i can do something that you cannot? when I see the red star guys they are cruising in two triple hardened gunnlogis with a madrugar rail as support.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 312	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:00:00 - [6] - Quote Amarrgheddon wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Amarrgheddon wrote: No I find a militia railgun on a militia sica dous quite well. I put up more impressive numbers by myself. It took you two proto suits and a lav. Plus I suspect you are lying. You provide no proof. MLT tank does quite well, i have that on an alt because i have no AV I could have put proto FG on a templar heavy suit tbh, but i might aswell fo all the way and get a better tank too plus the LAV is a must for any AV, how do you chase that which moves when you yourself cannot move? I have 4 witnesses to this feat of AV action, is it because i can do something that you cannot? when I see the red star guys they are cruising in two triple hardened gunnlogis with a madrugar rail as support. there is nothing wrong with that, its what are you going to do to stop them that may become a probem, the main factor in any battle is the intelligence of your enemy. if he is smart ,big deal, if they are all smart even, bigger dea,l and if they are dumb, well lol
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1599	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:09:00 - [7] - Quote you invested 3 guys to rolling around in av gear.... seems like you'd of lost most of those matches.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:10:00 - [8] - Quote calisk galern wrote: you invested 3 guys to rolling around in av gear.... seems like you'd of lost most of those matches. Only invested 2 tbh After the tanks were cleared we did what we normally do and that is either tank or go infantry We won most of the matches, even tho not too fussed even if we lose im going after tanks with AV Intelligence is OP
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 312	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:16:00 - [9] - Quote calisk galern wrote: you invested 3 guys to rolling around in av gear.... seems like you'd of lost most of those matches. you see what he did was he killed them so fast with such a high dps weapon and a friend that they didnt think it was worth calling in another vehicle to reduced to scrap
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 695	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:27:00 - [10] - Quote Let me know how this would help players who don't have a Heavy Suit or Heavy weapons but have specced into Full AV gear for medium and light suits.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3136	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:42:00 - [11] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Let me know how this would help players who don't have a Heavy Suit or Heavy weapons but have specced into Full AV gear for medium and light suits. It wouldn't. See tankers have this "special" kind of logic that makes them believe that only heavies should be able to take out vehicles simply because their vehicle has the word HEAVY in it. On another note, if only heavies should kill "heavies"; then we need to nerf the Shotgun and Nova Knife. CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:42:00 - [12] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Let me know how this would help players who don't have a Heavy Suit or Heavy weapons but have specced into Full AV gear for medium and light suits. Most have swarms Maxed out swarms still hurt armor and non shiny shield tanks, even with a hardener a group of swarms do really well and fast firing time so the clip is out in seconds With swarms they dont have that punch a FG has or even a PLC Best way to take a tank down is to do it in a group, you need mass missiles all at once since each missile does so much dmg on its own and each missile dmg isnt enough to stop the regen so it has to be on mass if it has hardeners on No hardeners its fine Intelligence is OP
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3136	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:43:00 - [13] - Quote You used teamwork. Huh? Now how many of those tanks were forced to use teamwork? If I'm forced to use teamwork, then why shouldn't the tanker? 1=1 CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:53:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: You used teamwork. Huh? Now how many of those tanks were forced to use teamwork? If I'm forced to use teamwork, then why shouldn't the tanker? 1=1 Those tanks could have been working in a group They may have been supporting the infantry I didnt mind using teamwork, makes the job a bit easier, i did solo a couple of them basically but it just makes the job longer If you want an enemy tank off the field use teamwork I still use teamwork in my tank, sometimes im in a 6man group and we are all using teamwork does that mean it should then take 6 to take me out because im using teamwork in a 6man group? Intelligence is OP
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 372	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:59:00 - [15] - Quote i see, so you finally squad up with babar and accept his challenge... Not that we don't trust you but you know....Crutch user always lies to save their crutch Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:05:00 - [16] - Quote Jastad wrote: i see, so you finally squad up with babar and accept his challenge... Not that we don't trust you but you know....Crutch user always lies to save their crutch Like i did it with babar, he hasnt even contacted me I did this on my own back just to see how hard it really it, with most having proto AV it shouldnt be a problem, the only way it would be difficult is with lower AV hence why if you have next to no AV a mlt tank is better Intelligence is OP
Snagman 313 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 240	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:13:00 - [17] - Quote Looks at thread waves other mercs past. "Nothing to see here folks just a Tanker saying he's running AV to prove it's fine, get back to work calling for a tank nerf!!!" Closed Beta AV veteran I drink because I play Dust
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:20:00 - [18] - Quote Snagman 313 wrote: Looks at thread waves other mercs past. "Nothing to see here folks just a Tanker saying he's running AV to prove it's fine, get back to work calling for a tank nerf!!!" If a tanker can run AV and kill tanks what does that say about the AV players? Intelligence is OP
Snagman 313 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 240	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:28:00 - [19] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Snagman 313 wrote: Looks at thread waves other mercs past. "Nothing to see here folks just a Tanker saying he's running AV to prove it's fine, get back to work calling for a tank nerf!!!" If a tanker can run AV and kill tanks what does that say about the AV players? That my 88k Soma is awesome at mullering infantry and 79k Sica is better for knocking out other tanks than my double complex dmg modded Ishukone AFG AK.0 fit at 187k. I certainly didn't say I don't run HAVs just that I don't like the current amounts in Ambush and the Militia HAV effectiveness for the price thats all. I also won't deny that the Maddies and Gunnloggis needed a buff bad but honestly something needs to change. Your retort sir! Closed Beta AV veteran I drink because I play Dust
Amarrgheddon Warcaste 48	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:40:00 - [20] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Snagman 313 wrote: Looks at thread waves other mercs past. "Nothing to see here folks just a Tanker saying he's running AV to prove it's fine, get back to work calling for a tank nerf!!!" If a tanker can run AV and kill tanks what does that say about the AV players? lying doesn't work as well for them

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:45:00 - [21] - Quote Snagman 313 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Snagman 313 wrote: Looks at thread waves other mercs past. "Nothing to see here folks just a Tanker saying he's running AV to prove it's fine, get back to work calling for a tank nerf!!!" If a tanker can run AV and kill tanks what does that say about the AV players? That my 88k Soma is awesome at mullering infantry and 79k Sica is better for knocking out other tanks than my double complex dmg modded Ishukone AFG AK.0 fit at 187k. I certainly didn't say I don't run HAVs just that I don't like the current amounts in Ambush and the Militia HAV effectiveness for the price thats all. I also won't deny that the Maddies and Gunnloggis needed a buff bad but honestly something needs to change. Your retort sir! I find that most mlt tanks which kill tanks are with the rail, high dmg/range and rof Using a blaster mlt tank is meh tbh but the dmg mods can make a big diff to any tank its just its defences can be meh, i can kill with a blaster but generally i have to get the jump on them and sometimes i have to run, with my alt i have no tank skills Even tho the tank is faster moving than your heavy, its why i used a LAV, can cover more ground and go through places that tanks cant and can easily get behind them without them seeing me and if you are a good driver you have no problem survivng most of the time As for ambush dont play it and its whoever spams the tank in 1st win since if they have the ground they will whack it before the bolas drops it Intelligence is OP
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 639	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:56:00 - [22] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Jastad wrote: i see, so you finally squad up with babar and accept his challenge... Not that we don't trust you but you know....Crutch user always lies to save their crutch Like i did it with babar, he hasnt even contacted me I did this on my own back just to see how hard it really it, with most having proto AV it shouldnt be a problem, the only way it would be difficult is with lower AV hence why if you have next to no AV a mlt tank is better All I see are words and no video to prove it. Babar probably hasn't contacted you because you haven't found the balls to actually accept his challenge. No instead you keep posting bs like this expecting us to take your obviously bias word for it and then insult anyone that doesn't. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:01:00 - [23] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Jastad wrote: i see, so you finally squad up with babar and accept his challenge... Not that we don't trust you but you know....Crutch user always lies to save their crutch Like i did it with babar, he hasnt even contacted me I did this on my own back just to see how hard it really it, with most having proto AV it shouldnt be a problem, the only way it would be difficult is with lower AV hence why if you have next to no AV a mlt tank is better All I see are words and no video to prove it. Babar probably hasn't contacted you because you haven't found the balls to actually accept his challenge. No instead you keep posting bs like this expecting us to take your obviously bias word for it and then insult anyone that doesn't. His challenge he has to contact me, except he wants it done in lolambush Ive killed tanks with UP AV because thats what players keep saying and its not UP, i didnt have a problem I will do it again tonight and post again and then the day after and after that and may do it for a solid week Intelligence is OP
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 616	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:01:00 - [24] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: HOLY CRAP WHO WOULDA THOUGHT A LITTLE FREAKIN TEAM WORK WOULD BE SO OP, I CANT BELIVE U KILLED A MILITA TANK THEY ARE INVINCIBLE! Team work is hella op
sixteensixty4 CAUSE 4 C0NCERN 145	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:07:00 - [25] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Snagman 313 wrote: Looks at thread waves other mercs past. "Nothing to see here folks just a Tanker saying he's running AV to prove it's fine, get back to work calling for a tank nerf!!!" If a tanker can run AV and kill tanks what does that say about the AV players? Says that they crap, i mean we got players from before the tank update that complained that they couldnt kill a tank back when they were pretty much easy mode to solo Its not even just bad AV users, this game seems to attract terrible players full stop, end of match score boards prove this with the bottem ten players on each team with scores like 0 \ 10 etc Spot on regarding the LAV, its pretty much a no brainer and essential for AV now, I've had KING CHECKMATE camped on a lone roof top the whole match trying to forge me.... from that same one spot, all game, unsuccessfully... then he makes a thread complaining tanks are op lol because he cant camp the towers anymore and deny tankers the whole map, which is how it should be, get in your LAV, on the battlefield, get your hands dirty and hunt that tank down if you want it gone I will say though, as a tank driver, that my tank could probabaly do with a little speed nerf, and im not sure if 3 hardeners should be a viable fit, and a price increase on the hulls could probably prevent them being spammed, make a mlt tank cost the same as a match pay out But yeah, generally, bad players are just bad
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 640	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:12:00 - [26] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: His challenge he has to contact me, except he wants it done in lolambush Ive killed tanks with UP AV because thats what players keep saying and its not UP, i didnt have a problem I will do it again tonight and post again and then the day after and after that and may do it for a solid week Well you know, Babar isn't the only person that can record video; there's plenty of other people that can and I'm sure there are at least a few that would be more than happy to help prove you right. So stop posting threads & comments that make it look like you're sucking your own **** & your buddies too and post some actual proof instead. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:20:00 - [27] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: His challenge he has to contact me, except he wants it done in lolambush Ive killed tanks with UP AV because thats what players keep saying and its not UP, i didnt have a problem I will do it again tonight and post again and then the day after and after that and may do it for a solid week Well you know, Babar isn't the only person that can record video; there's plenty of other people that can and I'm sure there are at least a few that would be more than happy to help prove you right. So stop posting threads & comments that make it look like you're sucking your own **** & your buddies too and post some actual proof instead. Proof is my word & witnesses and victims Plus i run a 2man LAV, no 3rd seat so they would have to keep up and not get in the way or just spend the time recording the killfeed Its easy to ask for video proof when only so many actually have it, its like a get out of jail free card on any thread you dont like Intelligence is OP
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3144	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:22:00 - [28] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atiim wrote: You used teamwork. Huh? Now how many of those tanks were forced to use teamwork? If I'm forced to use teamwork, then why shouldn't the tanker? 1=1 Those tanks could have been working in a group They may have been supporting the infantry I didnt mind using teamwork, makes the job a bit easier, i did solo a couple of them basically but it just makes the job longer If you want an enemy tank off the field use teamwork I still use teamwork in my tank, sometimes im in a 6man group and we are all using teamwork does that mean it should then take 6 to take me out because im using teamwork in a 6man group? Bolding for visibility. CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5382	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:22:00 - [29] - Quote You had to put all that effort with an expensive fit and three people, while I could have done it in a militia tank AND not lose my anti infantry capabilities This only proves one point: Tanker vs AV is EXTREMELY unbalanced effort wise Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2161	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:26:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atiim wrote: You used teamwork. Huh? Now how many of those tanks were forced to use teamwork? If I'm forced to use teamwork, then why shouldn't the tanker? 1=1 Those tanks could have been working in a group They may have been supporting the infantry I didnt mind using teamwork, makes the job a bit easier, i did solo a couple of them basically but it just makes the job longer If you want an enemy tank off the field use teamwork I still use teamwork in my tank, sometimes im in a 6man group and we are all using teamwork does that mean it should then take 6 to take me out because im using teamwork in a 6man group? Bolding for visibility. You are not forced You can still solo Intelligence is OP



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