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Bear D'Grassi
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 02:47:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I am of very mixed feelings about today's keynote. As a PC gamer, I'm kinda excited, I know it'll solve problems like the lack of a test server or the hardware limitations or the time to releasing patches.
But the biggest issue here is how CCP mistreated it's community. It was talked about how it was what everyone wanted, but that was true only of EVE players. Console players have been pretty much screwed, and CCP didn't even bother to announce anything content-wise, or regarding what DUST players have to look forward to. They just showed a prettier graphics PC client, and then walked off the stage.
I will be continuing my plan to run for CPM.
Hopefully. I can vote for you using a PS controller, if not I'm afraid I will not be voting.
Profile damping on my Gallente scout is so good I can't even find it to put it on!
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Matobar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
241
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Posted - 2014.05.04 00:05:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I am of very mixed feelings about today's keynote. As a PC gamer, I'm kinda excited, I know it'll solve problems like the lack of a test server or the hardware limitations or the time to releasing patches.
But the biggest issue here is how CCP mistreated it's community. It was talked about how it was what everyone wanted, but that was true only of EVE players. Console players have been pretty much screwed, and CCP didn't even bother to announce anything content-wise, or regarding what DUST players have to look forward to. They just showed a prettier graphics PC client, and then walked off the stage.
I will be continuing my plan to run for CPM.
Hey Soraya, since it's been a few days and Fanfest is essentially over, would you care to summarize your feelings on the situation and how you plan to move forward knowing the reveal?
Also, would you like to comment on the way the current CPM handled/was involved in the current situation, and what you would have done, differently or otherwise? |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2444
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Posted - 2014.05.04 01:10:00 -
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Sure, Matobar. It's a big issue, so this might get long.
First, just to knock it out of the way: EVE Legion is DUST 514. Nobody buys the "it's a new product" garbage. Same weapons, same maps, same game design. The fact that they failed to implement the game design in DUST doesn't make it any less DUST when they finally get around to it. My assumption is the name change is because they feel people will give the game a second chance as a "new game", and are going to sell that name hard.
So, what we have is a platform change. The decision to move to PC over PS4 is a mistake. A very large portion of this community would've accepted a PS4 move, but a very small portion will accept a PC move. Add that to the larger variety of issues CCP will face operating DUST in the PC market, and it becomes very clear just how bad this decision is.
It was also presented in the worst possible way. While CCP claims DUST will still be developed, they had nothing to show for it. They came to Fanfest with no news whatsoever about DUST. That's unacceptable. Furthermore, they don't even have a green light to make this game: It's just a "prototype". Multiple devs used the expression "if it becomes a product", which isn't what we should hear on the project that's been decided as more important than our game. A DUST 514 keynote should've started with what they're going to do, in the near future, for DUST 514. Then, at the end, they could've introduced what they're working on as well.
With regards to the CPM, it is very hard to say for sure. First and foremost, they're legally bound to uphold the NDA. I don't feel you can fault them for being tossed in that incredibly awful situation of knowing that and not being able to tell people. I guarantee you that kept CPM members up at night. I highly doubt CCP asked them to vote on what platform to support, so perish any notion that they are responsible for EVE Legion. This is on CCP, and it is solely their fault.
Some CPM members have told me a few things that can help us judge their performance. For one, that they pushed very hard for this to be announced ahead of Fanfest. This would've been better, and helped avoid some of the truly humiliating stories coming out of Fanfest this weekend. Similarly to the World of Darkness cancellation, bad news is not for Fanfest. There's no "fest" in having your game headshot. I know we had been told several times that Rouge's vision for DUST would be announced before Fanfest, and that didn't happen. Whether something wasn't ready, or CCP was more concerned with appeasing EVE players by announcing a new PC game on stage, I don't know and can't tell you.
We also know the CPM have been campaigning hard for PS4 support to remain on the table, and very importantly, for our progress in-game to persist into the new platform. As we're not privy to their internal dealings, we really can't say if they're being as effective as they could be or not. I really hope the minutes for the CPM summit in the next few days becomes public very quickly, so we can see a bit more of how this process currently works for them.
I think a few things are very important in the short term future for this game. First, I think CCP needs to, this week, lay down what's coming in the next patch of DUST 514, and when it's coming. They've been screwing around for six months, and they need to be clear on this. We were led to believe some manner of roadmap was coming, not a prototype of a future concept with no details or deadline.
Second, it's well past time to get the CPM election running. Whether the CPM did their job to the best of the ability or not, they were never elected. They weren't chosen by the players. What was supposed to be a short term job has dragged on due to CCP's inability to get things done. A lot of hate is thrown their way, some perhaps deserved, some perhaps not so much. The players need to select their own people to fill this role, as it was intended.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2564
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Posted - 2014.05.19 18:55:00 -
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I'm really excited that CCP devs have stated actively engaging the community on balance. You have to wonder how many more people we'd have playing the game if CCP had started doing this a year ago. Though we'll have yet to see how effective it is when we get a new patch.
For those who want to catch me chatting more, be sure to tune in to Biomassed every Sunday night, live, or at www.biomassed.net
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2066
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Posted - 2014.05.19 19:11:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I'm really excited that CCP devs have stated actively engaging the community on balance. You have to wonder how many more people we'd have playing the game if CCP had started doing this a year ago. Though we'll have yet to see how effective it is when we get a new patch. For those who want to catch me chatting more, be sure to tune in to Biomassed every Sunday night, live, or at www.biomassed.net +1 Soraya
Continued transparency and communication moving forward it vital and I hope it's the new standard for CCP and the future of Dust-Legion.
Also, looking forward to hearing more from you via biomassed, and maybe stealing another guest spot at some point down the line
Cheers, Cross
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2130
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Posted - 2014.05.24 18:09:00 -
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Now that I've had the time to consider a more detailed response, I wish to offer the following.
Soraya Xel wrote: - CCP needs to ramp up the EVE/DUST link, particularly by implementing a real economy for DUST 514. CCP has restated multiple times their focus on making DUST the best shooter. And while the idea of a better shooter (and frame rate, for God's sake) appeals to me greatly, the truth is, DUST will probably never beat Call of Duty or Battlefield as a first-person shooter alone. DUST is a niche game. It is a hybrid MMO with links to EVE Online. And most of the people I know who got excited hearing about DUST, were excited because of that link even if they didn't play EVE. CCP needs to commit full throttle to the link.
I agree, even if many aspects of this link may be pushed back to Legion the core of this principle most certainly needs a strong representation moving forward.
Soraya Xel wrote:- CCP needs to embrace it's scifi setting, with unique environments, maps, and equipment. Right now, DUST is a mediocre shooter. It has little to set it apart from other games apart from it's science fiction setting, of which there is far more limited competition. Unlike Call of Duty or Battlefield, CCP isn't constrained to real-world weapons or environments. DUST can explore other worlds, starships, and even the emptiness of space itself. CCP needs to go full-on scifi, and again, focus on it's strengths. Embrace methods of gameplay that Call of Duty and Battlefield can only dream of. That means lava planets, changing gravity between planets of different sizes, and ship-based combat. The flexibility offered by the scifi setting is an untapped goldmine, while improvement to basic 'simulation' style elements of the core shooter mechanics remain important the should not eclipse the possibilities offered by play on various planet types, exotic weapons et al. A direct head to head competition with the standard shooters isn't going to push Dust-Legion to excel, it is rather - as you say - embracing those methods of game play that other shooters can only dream of which will truly make this project standout from the crowd.
Soraya Xel wrote:- CCP needs to be up-front with it's roadmap. As usual, all discussion of DUST 514 at the CSM summit was again under NDA. While EVE devs have profited greatly from the early feedback of players, DUST devs aren't communicating enough. While a test server is currently unfeasible (thank you, Sony), giving players the facts and the numbers up front will allow people to participate in the process of game development. Players need a better idea of CCP's roadmap for DUST 514, so they can put faith (and AUR-colored credits) in the long-term future of DUST. Laser-focused on PS3 is a nice short-term answer, but it won't cut it for the future. As a CPM member, I'll push heavily for greater disclosure with players on long-term plans, even if they aren't set in stone. Saving the best for last, while what direction CCP takes Dust-Legion may be a matter of continued debate, transparency and crowdsourcing such as CCP Rattati has displayed in these opening days post fanfest should be a matter of no dispute whatsoever. Communication with the community, openness regarding their roadmap, and proactive engagement with the players at large is vitally important to promoting the health of the game.
Soraya Xel wrote:Obviously, DUST 514 is an incredibly complex game with a variety of important issues across the board. These three are the issues closest to my heart. If you chose to help me reach the CPM, you can be assured my inbox will always be open, and that putting your views in front of me will put them in front of CCP. You can reach me in my DUST inbox at Soraya Xel, my EVE inbox at Crasniya, or my email at [email protected] Aside from the guest spot on Biomassed I have honestly had less time to directly converse with you than I'd like, but your declaration of candidacy leaves me with little doubt that we'll not only be able to work together as CPMs (if elected ) but that I'll end up looking forward to hearing the ideas you put forward both during and after these elections.
o7 Soraya, ~Cross
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2592
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Posted - 2014.05.26 01:51:00 -
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Thanks, Cross. :)
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Firbolg Barun
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
37
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Posted - 2014.05.28 10:16:00 -
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What is your stance on the following:
Quote:CPM1 will have limited involvement with Project Legion. ? |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2600
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Posted - 2014.05.28 15:22:00 -
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Firbolg Barun wrote:What is your stance on the following: Quote:CPM1 will have limited involvement with Project Legion. ?
I think it's expectation management. Where it seems suitable to run an idea past a few players to see what they think, they will probably go to the CPM first. But they don't want people to run under the expectation that they'll get to be the game designers for Legion. CCP has it's own game designers. CPM are and will continue to be, the community's voice.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3296
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:10:00 -
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The term Community is an important part of the CPM position, indeed every candidate uses the term at some point. However it is an abstract concept, so what I would like is to hear your definition of community. No right or wrong answers here, just looking to get a better feel of where you are coming from.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2601
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:21:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:The term Community is an important part of the CPM position, indeed every candidate uses the term at some point. However it is an abstract concept, so what I would like is to hear your definition of community. No right or wrong answers here, just looking to get a better feel of where you are coming from.
The community is not just the sum of our playerbase, but the culture that lives around it. It's the corporations and alliances, the third party sites and tools, the friendships and grudges. It's not just who the players are, it's what the players have built. CCP provides the game, and that game is a platform. EVE and DUST are just that: platforms. The community is what the players have built on top of those platforms.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3298
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:28:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Llast 326 wrote:The term Community is an important part of the CPM position, indeed every candidate uses the term at some point. However it is an abstract concept, so what I would like is to hear your definition of community. No right or wrong answers here, just looking to get a better feel of where you are coming from. The community is not just the sum of our playerbase, but the culture that lives around it. It's the corporations and alliances, the third party sites and tools, the friendships and grudges. It's not just who the players are, it's what the players have built. CCP provides the game, and that game is a platform. EVE and DUST are just that: platforms. The community is what the players have built on top of those platforms. Thank you
KRRROOOOOOM
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m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative..
134
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Posted - 2014.05.30 11:23:00 -
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You'll be getting my vote. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2615
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Posted - 2014.06.02 06:05:00 -
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Really had a great time on Biomassed this week chatting with eight other CPM candidates. http://www.biomassed.net
m621 zma wrote:You'll be getting my vote.
Thanks!
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2200
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Posted - 2014.06.02 15:35:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Really had a great time on Biomassed this week chatting with eight other CPM candidates. http://www.biomassed.netm621 zma wrote:You'll be getting my vote. Thanks! Looking forward to more conversations in the future, maybe at a summit somewhere
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2666
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Posted - 2014.06.07 01:27:00 -
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Biggest thing we need in the next hotfix should be ISK in FacWar. FacWar isn't rewarding right now. And if FW offered both ISK and LP, at a significant greater total benefit than pubs, veterans could farm there, and not in pubs. Which would keep the protostomping out of pub matches.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2678
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Posted - 2014.06.09 01:04:00 -
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I believe the loss of two members of the DUST community team both highlights the need for a strong CPM, who can reach past the community reps and to the developers directly, but also the importance of the creation of the ISD. The ISD offers the possibility to allow volunteers to supplant the community team in doing their jobs. As CCP downsizes the community team, it becomes even more valuable for the concept of the ISD to become a reality in DUST.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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RAIDER 04
The Exemplars Top Men.
14
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:40:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I believe the loss of two members of the DUST community team both highlights the need for a strong CPM, who can reach past the community reps and to the developers directly, but also the importance of the creation of the ISD. The ISD offers the possibility to allow volunteers to supplant the community team in doing their jobs. As CCP downsizes the community team, it becomes even more valuable for the concept of the ISD to become a reality in DUST. Might want to explain that a bit more... I'd not exxpect most here to know what the ISD is unless they've played EVE...
The Corporate Raiders PAC Endorses Free Tacos
Nixon for CPM
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Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
2034
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Posted - 2014.06.12 10:19:00 -
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No idea what an ISD is to be honest (and I play EVE lmao) but by the sound of it this boils down to CCP are getting rid of community reps which is bad we well be heard even less so CCP should ask for volunteers to help out. That a good simple version of did I fall out of the stupid tree once more?
Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2691
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Posted - 2014.06.12 13:58:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:No idea what an ISD is to be honest (and I play EVE lmao) but by the sound of it this boils down to CCP are getting rid of community reps which is bad we well be heard even less so CCP should ask for volunteers to help out. That a good simple version of did I fall out of the stupid tree once more?
ISD, or Interstellar Services Department, is a volunteer group that CCP has for EVE Online. They're players that supplement CCP's efforts in several key areas:
- Forum Moderation - Quality Assurance/Bug Hunting - In-Game News Articles - Fiction/Lore - New Player Support - The Official Wiki
In many cases, the ISD members answer a lot of basic questions on the forums, and help keep the community running smoothly in EVE Online. With less community team members on CCP's staff, these volunteers are needed now more than ever.
You can see more details on the ISD program here: http://community.eveonline.com/community/volunteer-program/
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Vethosis
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
960
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Posted - 2014.06.16 19:01:00 -
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Only cpm candidate dedicated to flying, this is a must tbh. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2135
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Posted - 2014.06.21 21:12:00 -
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Greetings CPM Candidate!
You and your peers are formally invited to attend what will no doubt become a provocative debate on the topic of Scouts! We very much look forward to your participation in said rumble, should you take interest and be so kind as to opine.
We do hope you swing by and weigh in: Your Summons, Sir or Madam
o7
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2761
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Posted - 2014.06.27 20:57:00 -
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Really glad to see an election date is set. It's been such a long time coming.
I do feel it might be a bit early though, given that we're only ten days away, and the final candidate list is not yet approved. This gives the community a very short window of time to evaluate the official candidate list, and I'm concerned that candidates whom were not accepted early in the candidate application window may suffer from decreased attention and exposure leading up to the moment people can cast their ballots.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2483
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Posted - 2014.06.27 23:05:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Really glad to see an election date is set. It's been such a long time coming.
I do feel it might be a bit early though, given that we're only ten days away, and the final candidate list is not yet approved. This gives the community a very short window of time to evaluate the official candidate list, and I'm concerned that candidates whom were not accepted early in the candidate application window may suffer from decreased attention and exposure leading up to the moment people can cast their ballots. I completely agree it's high time this happened. That being said the sooner we have an actual final list of candidates (before the voting) the better. It'd be great to know the span of the voting period as well, just so everyone can be informed and have their fair shake in the voting process.
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2357
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Posted - 2014.06.29 18:17:00 -
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The election starts in 10 days, but runs until the 22nd of Jult. That is a month, give or take, from now till voting closes. As a late runner myself, I do not feel disadvantaged.
Cross Atu wrote: It'd be great to know the span of the voting period as wel 7th to the 22nd. Its in the dev Blog mate.
Judge for CPM 1
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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Temba Fusrodah
Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru
92
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Posted - 2014.06.29 21:46:00 -
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The election is finally going to happen. I hope the final list of candidates include good choices and not just ego trippers. CCP needs a lot of input to set Dust514 on a path to player satisfaction and popular success.
CCP needs thoughtful intelligent people to stand up for the entire player base not just their own corner of the EVE universe. Voters please look at what the candidates stand for closely, it could be make or break for Dust514 if we elect a bunch of wannabe yes men/ women.
If you value what this game could be and should be vote thoughtfully!
Killing targets since the beta days! A DUST514 Original Gankster!
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2781
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Posted - 2014.06.30 02:11:00 -
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Who we vote for is indeed going to be very important. CCP will simply ignore members who aren't able to work well as a team and communicate effectively with both players and the developers, and that's bad for everyone.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
774
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Posted - 2014.06.30 15:30:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Note: My platform has evolved somewhat as the game has developed, please read further in the thread for my views on more current game issues, and feel free to ask questions as well.
- CCP needs to ramp up the EVE/DUST link, particularly by implementing a real economy for DUST 514. - CCP needs to embrace it's scifi setting, with unique environments, maps, and equipment. - CCP needs to be up-front with it's roadmap.
Hello!!
Great read from your OP and it certainly drives some questions into my mind if you have time!?
I read from the top part that you had in fact changed some of your campaign policy notes so please accept my apologies if i have made a mistake here - i am merely going on what you have put on the front page - i did try to scan for the new policies you are running on but again sorry if i missed them.
My question is based on the above 3 quoted statements you make, i totally agree that CCP have quite a task ahead of them across multiple areas, my question is more around what you feel CCP will do with Dust 514 now. Your first statement comments on the need for a Dust 514 'real economy' do you mean this to be part of the Dust 514 product or is this sometihng perhaps for legion? From what i heard from CCP - there is now no longer a real and commercial possibility to develop Dust on the client side. do you feel this is wrong of CCP? what would you propose Dust 514 have here for its 'real economy'?
In your second statement you mention the game needs more environments, maps and equipment, i couldnt agree more! this is something i would love to see but again, to clarify, you mean Dust 514? how would this also get added in your view? should the CPM be pushing CCP to continue 'full development' of the product as well as legion still?
Your last statement is an interesting one to me as i do share your views here entirely, how do you feel CCP could be more 'up front' with its roadmap to the player base? what could they do better to fix this?
Thanks for your comments and replies
CEO
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2783
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Posted - 2014.06.30 15:41:00 -
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Thanks for the questions, Pyrex!
Yeah, the important preface here, is that I've kept my thread intact since well before Legion was announced. Unfortunately, CCP has made it clear that things like more maps and an economy isn't coming to DUST 514. While I am excited about Legion as well, it's extremely important to me that the CPM1 continue to nudge CCP into pushing the envelope of what they can do with DUST 514. CCP Rattati has done a great job with the recent hotfixes, but imagine what he could do with the ability to make minor client changes as well. I strongly want to encourage CCP give even more latitude to Rattati in continuing to iterate on and improve DUST 514.
As Legion development continues, one of the first questions that I think we should be asking is "Can we port this back to DUST 514?" While maps may be outside of the scope of possibility, I'm hoping additional weapons, vehicles, and equipment might not be. As Legion development revamps skills and gear design, I'm going to want to know if those are things that could be ported back to DUST.
For as long as players log in and play DUST, CCP should be trying to push out new things for them, even with the reduced development team it now has. And while the game's life on PS3 may be limited, it's important to continue to support this community, and hopefully, secure word someday of a version of Legion for PS4.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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CEOPyrex CloneA
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
776
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Posted - 2014.07.03 09:32:00 -
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Hi Dude!
Thanks for the reply and apologies for my mistake on the last post i made - i kinda guessed that much of what you had put there was before legion but wasnt entirely sure, so my apologies for the confusion there.
I really wanted to say thanks for the reply, i picked out one thing in particular that i tohught was interesting indeed which was:
Quote:As Legion development continues, one of the first questions that I think we should be asking is "Can we port this back to DUST 514?"
YES! thats really exciting thoughts there, i would love to see a return to PC for legion but then a further return to consoles in the future, that would be awesome so just wanted to say thanks for your insights there. Really refreshing, out of the box thinking.
I have a further question if i may, i made a post in another candidates thread about the CPM process in general still being quite high level - as in - many of the topics are quite obscure high level wishes and desires, what id like to know more is what you perhaps feel could be quick wins right now in the next Dust 514 patch that make this game way more fun than it is now?
What would be the tangible, deliverable out puts that CCP could tweak today that would make the game play so much better?
Thanks for your replies, excited to hear your thoughts on this.
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