It is to powerful. All this game is now is just "find the red dot on your radar". Everyone pretty much always knows where everyone else is. It's boring. And the victory always goes to the the team with the fewest noobs on their side, who don't understand how active scanners will get them kill very quickly.

The active scanner is killing the fittings variety in this game. If you're not constantly running, AT LEAST, a suit that is below 36 dB odds are you're going to get rolled, or at the very least go ISK negative for the match, unless you are running in fittings that are 20k ISK or less.

So, outside of running junk std fitting, pretty much your only other option is to dampen. Well what's wrong with that you say. Well I'm glad you asked:

In order to get a medium suit to beat the adv scanner requires complex skills and a complex mod, which will put a med suit at 33.75 dB. So, first off, we are asking noobs to, before they do anything else skill wise, skill dampening to Lv5 and imediately start using complex dampeners on ever suit they fit if they don't want to keep getting rolled. But it doesn't stop there. In order, to counter the active scanner one must give up a vital low slot, thus drastically decreasing ones overal ability to survive. On the other hand the active scanner user must make no such sacrifices. With a minamal skill investment (Lv3 to get the adv scanner) you are easily on your way. All you have to give up to use the AS is one equipment slot. Easy enough if your a logi, you won't even notice. If you are an assault, so you'll have to look for a nanohive in order to rearm in the field - no big deal.

Scanners have no real draw back for the user. And to beat the scanner costs you the abillity to survive well. And not beating the scanner is even worse.

So there you have it scanner 514.

~ from a Gallente who runs around in a radar tanked suit most of the time, with about 350 eHP, shooting people in the back with a scrambler pistol.

If you're complaining about getting scanned, maybe you should get good at this game. I'm being serious.

You shut your filthy mouth with all this "nerfing" talk, be quiet and wear dampners like the rest of us. I'm in a low HP Min. Logi suit as a shotgunner. Adapt damn it, CCP put Dampners in the game for a reason. I wear 2 Complex Damps and rarely am I scanned.

*Dampened gal scout* I don't know what you mean, what is a scanner?
on another note put two complex damps on a cal logi proto and watch people **** bricks when they don't see you

*Dampened gal scout* I don't know what you mean, what is a scanner?
on another note put two complex damps on a cal logi proto and watch people **** bricks when they don't see you

Are you guys even reading what Im writing? I'm being serious.

You're saying that new players are going to get stomped by proto squads who use scanners, because new players shouldn't be expected to immediately skill into profile dampeners all the way to proto when so many other things take priority, and use less SP.

New players will get stomped by proto squads regardless. It happened during shared team vision and it's happening during shared squad vision with scanners. Sometimes vet players also get stomped by proto squads, even if they have dampening up.

In some games, you just CAN'T win, due to how the teams are stacked. As a lone wolfer you know this. So instead of throwing your body at the enemy and losing tons of suits, you have to play smart, hang back, and engage only on your terms. You can do this even if you get scanned.

What they need to do is make a hard counter to it that goes in the equipment slot like a jammer or a ghost signal generator.

{edit >>> and not four months from now.

Or you know, a single complex profile dampener that will keep you hidden from all but Proto Scanners.
Hint: nobody uses proto scanners because they use more fitting resources than most prototype weapons.

TL;DR:
My medium suit can't play scout anymore

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Draw back LOL. If you get caught with your pants down like that, you deserve to die.

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Draw back LOL. If you get caught with your pants down like that, you deserve to die.

It actually is a drawback, and it happens to the best of us. For instance when you scan and someone decloaks from an uplink you didn't see, or when a dampened enemy catches you with your scanner out.

But my point from before still stands; if you can't dodge scans, the next best thing is to scan people back. Scanners are the single most important piece of equipment you can have, and every squad needs to use one, preferably more than one.

If you are lone wolfing, especially without dampeners, you definitely need a scanner.

Just stop trying to hide from the scanner and shoot them right in the face with a rail rifle when they find you. I get scanned 50 times a game but it means nothing if they cant beat me in a gun fight.

Devs just need to make Scanners more tactical instead of omni-directional. Make it so that only targets that have been inside the angle the entire scan have a chance of showing up in the results

My ballerina Logi Bro Alt will be heartbroken but he'll get over it.

Devs just need to make Scanners more tactical instead of omni-directional. Make it so that only targets that have been inside the angle the entire scan have a chance of showing up in the results

My ballerina Logi Bro Alt will be heartbroken but he'll get over it.

Or you know, a single complex profile dampener that will keep you hidden from all but Proto Scanners.
Hint: nobody uses proto scanners because they use more fitting resources than most prototype weapons.