I agree with most people who found pretty creative ways to nerf the Active Scanner (which really is kind of OP in my opinion). These days it's like I spawn on any random droplink, be it up high or down low, I get those annoying, red, mocking letters up top in my screen: "You have been scanned".

This seriously pisses me off everytime it happens. It removes any ability for me to flank people in this game and that sucks because flanking is really one of my greatest strengths in online shooters.
I try flanking half the enemy team by spending 2 minutes sprinting around on foot only to get the message "You have been scanned" when I'm not even close to actually being in their visual range.

This is probably due to all scanners doing the ******* 360-¦ scan dance like it's a pagan ritual dating back to ancient times or something. They should really make it so the Active Scanner actually scans how it's supposed to scan -> areas of 90-¦ in which the scanner is facing.

If scanners can just do the 360-¦ dance then there really isn't even a point in mentioning how big the scan radius is in degrees with the info text. If anything CCP could actually make use of the STD, ADV, PRO variants by making the STD version scan in 90-¦, the ADV version scan in 180-¦ and the PRO version scan in 360-¦.

For everyone about to flame me for not using Profile Dampeners. I'm running Minmatar Assault. I only have 2 low slots which I have to use for either a PG/CPU upgrade or a set of armor plates because my base armor hp is ******* disastrous.

I agree with most people who found pretty creative ways to nerf the Active Scanner (which really is kind of OP in my opinion). These days it's like I spawn on any random droplink, be it up high or down low, I get those annoying, red, mocking letters up top in my screen: "You have been scanned".

This seriously pisses me off everytime it happens. It removes any ability for me to flank people in this game and that sucks because flanking is really one of my greatest strengths in online shooters.
I try flanking half the enemy team by spending 2 minutes sprinting around on foot only to get the message "You have been scanned" when I'm not even close to actually being in their visual range.

This is probably due to all scanners doing the ******* 360-¦ scan dance like it's a pagan ritual dating back to ancient times or something. They should really make it so the Active Scanner actually scans how it's supposed to scan -> areas of 90-¦ in which the scanner is facing.

If scanners can just do the 360-¦ dance then there really isn't even a point in mentioning how big the scan radius is in degrees with the info text. If anything CCP could actually make use of the STD, ADV, PRO variants by making the STD version scan in 90-¦, the ADV version scan in 180-¦ and the PRO version scan in 360-¦.

For everyone about to flame me for not using Profile Dampeners. I'm running Minmatar Assault. I only have 2 low slots which I have to use for either a PG/CPU upgrade or a set of armor plates because my base armor hp is ******* disastrous.

If you are flanking without profile dampining, you are doing it wrong. I've not a suit that isn't fitted with one complex dampener and several set up with two for the occasional proto that comes out. I've never been scanned by the focused in one of my 2x complex ghost suits. If and when I do, I'll know I'm only lit for 5 seconds.

Let go of you EHP crutch and adapt and counter.

So, by using 1x complex dampener on a medium suit I will make anyone in a match with ADV active scanners (or worse) waste an equipment slot and the CPU/PG needed to fit them, and deprive their squads of the ability to scan me, and all that for the price of 30CPU and 1 low slot. Sounds pretty good to me.

I think it was Iron Wolf Saber? maybe someone else...anyway, they commented that a great fix would be to tie the scanner to the suit; so scouts would scan at the lowest frequencies.

Makes sense to me, gives good roles as well.

Thing is, scanners never really changed. I was using them before the intel kill bonus.

People literally fly under the radar.

You just don't get to do so for free anymore.

If you want to have armour like a heavy, there's a price.

If you want to be invisible, there's a price.

No free lunch.

Intelligence gathering as a play mechanic is not OP. Having at least one active scanner on your team should be one of the unwritten requirements of any match. I used scanners before they were given intel bonuses, and it was absolutely a gem back then. I don't see how it can be considered OP when you can counter the advantage it gives you by bringing one into battle yourself.

The active scanner is a great tool for corralling blueberries into doing something useful. If you have to dumb it down so you don't have to skill into PD, then give the Scouts bonuses of some kind so that the tool 'belongs' to them as scouts.

It would be OP if there were not effective counters. There is one effective counter (running active scanner yourself) or playing a Gallente scout with prototype profile dampners. Adapt.

Thing is, scanners never really changed. I was using them before the intel kill bonus.

People literally fly under the radar.

You just don't get to do so for free anymore.

If you want to have armour like a heavy, there's a price.

If you want to be invisible, there's a price.

No free lunch.

It ruins a lot of peoples fun, and destroys the tactical gameplay (well, not if you call scan everyone in the game and kill them "tactical"...).

I'm a little surprised this thread is based on 'scanners are OP' But no one has mentioned Vehicle Active Scanners? 360 degree radius running constantly until cool down without the need to spin aroundGǪplus some of the lowest precision ratings in the gameGǪand you can place them on any vehicleGǪ

Ever since the update I have been getting scanned as much as I've been scanning and its usually because of vehicle scannersGǪ

Seriously. All you have to do is "paint" your targets locations when they are about to flank you, and say, "OPE! The enemy is that way!", and just win every match. No element of surprise. It kind of feels like using hacks in a game when I pull out that scanner...

Seriously. All you have to do is "paint" your targets locations when they are about to flank you, and say, "OPE! The enemy is that way!", and just win every match. No element of surprise. It kind of feels like using hacks in a game when I pull out that scanner...

Great idea, terrible execution. Point in case; the fact that CCP tried to balance them around the cone-width of the scan but forgot that we can all spin on the spot for a full 360 degree sweep anyway.

The real issue for me is that they take away much more than they give back. They deny creative tactics and they lock down the smart players who take the time to use a maps topography to flank the enemy or set up an ambush. Players with skill get shut down by those that don't with a press of the trigger. No fun to be had with that.

I don't want them nerfed; they make sense on the battlefield of the future. But they need the risk/reward ratio rebalanced so that spamming them is going to (probably) get you killed, using them should be a tactical decision that May or may not net you a real, of fleeting, advantage.

Profile Dampeners.

Yeah, they tell them that there's someone around with minimal/no tank. just not exactly where. then again, you'll die in about 6 bullets anyways, so they really don't need to worry too much.