| Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Tectonic Fusion
750
   |
Posted - 2013.12.18 05:41:00 -
[1] - Quote
Seriously. All you have to do is "paint" your targets locations when they are about to flank you, and say, "OPE! The enemy is that way!", and just win every match. No element of surprise. It kind of feels like using hacks in a game when I pull out that scanner...
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
|
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
3264
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 05:43:00 -
[2] - Quote
Just need to dial back the precision a bit so PD can help you avoid them easier.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
|
Green Living
Scions of Athra
1071
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 05:43:00 -
[3] - Quote
It would be OP if there were not effective counters. There is one effective counter (running active scanner yourself) or playing a Gallente scout with prototype profile dampners. Adapt. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
1267
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 05:44:00 -
[4] - Quote
With sarcasm.
The Active Scanner isn't OP.
Fizzer94 // Level 1 Forum Warrior // PLASMA CANNONS FUCKING SUCK A BIG FAT DICK NOW, FIX THEM!
|
Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
500
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 05:45:00 -
[5] - Quote
Dampeners. Active scanners are a crutch. If you break that crutch with proper dampening and sly movements, it crushes people.
I will agree, I think the wall hack results are a bit OP. I would rather make the results a static chevron that "refreshes" over their heads every half second or so.
Dropship Specialist
Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Other DS: 24 Gêå1; Tanks: 13 Gêå1
12/18
|
Tectonic Fusion
751
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 05:59:00 -
[6] - Quote
Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Dampeners. Active scanners are a crutch. If you break that crutch with proper dampening and sly movements, it crushes people.
I will agree, I think the wall hack results are a bit OP. I would rather make the results a static chevron that "refreshes" over their heads every half second or so.
I think it should show their location, but not make it so obvious, and not show what direction they are pointing. The scanner should use dB (as it does now), and show sound rather than a dot, because it's not a radar.
Green Living wrote:It would be OP if there were not effective counters. There is one effective counter (running active scanner yourself) or playing a Gallente scout with prototype profile dampners. Adapt.
What fun is that? If the only tactic would be to paint the enemies to win, that would be stupid -_-
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
|
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
84
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:08:00 -
[7] - Quote
Green Living wrote:It would be OP if there were not effective counters. There is one effective counter (running active scanner yourself) or playing a Gallente scout with prototype profile dampners. Adapt.
Scanners are a crutch. Never again will I use one, I was ridiculously paranoid the second I stopped using it. My gameplay suffered. But I like it now adds room for more tactics and stealth. SCANNERS ARE A CRUTCH PEOPLE. KILL THE PERSON WITH THE SCANNER
'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
You'd just LOVE to think it was the wind.
Dropship Extremist
|
Tectonic Fusion
752
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:11:00 -
[8] - Quote
PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Green Living wrote:It would be OP if there were not effective counters. There is one effective counter (running active scanner yourself) or playing a Gallente scout with prototype profile dampners. Adapt. Scanners are a crutch. Never again will I use one, I was ridiculously paranoid the second I stopped using it. My gameplay suffered. But I like it now adds room for more tactics and stealth. SCANNERS ARE A CRUTCH PEOPLE. KILL THE PERSON WITH THE SCANNER
That's obvious, but usually there are 5 guys protecting him, and by the time I almost kill him, the guys I killed will just respawn at the spawn pad a few feet behind him.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
|
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
363
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:11:00 -
[9] - Quote
why i can't wait for an active jammer. Stickit on. No comms. No Tacnet.
broke your cructh and your voice.
"We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste
|
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
86
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:19:00 -
[10] - Quote
Sprint a few meters 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'
Take two steps back 'SCAN ATTEMP PREVENTED'
Strafe a few meters 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'
KILL THE SCANNER WEILDER
'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
You'd just LOVE to think it was the wind.
Dropship Extremist
|
|
|
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
86
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:25:00 -
[11] - Quote
Welcome to the how-to guide of avoiding the white light (scanners)
Step 1 Gallente scout pro danp lvl 5
Step 2 Eliminate Scanner wielder
Step 3 Complain and never adjust your gameplay
Step 4 Steal every scanner and burn it BURN IT ALL
'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
You'd just LOVE to think it was the wind.
Dropship Extremist
|
Cosgar
ParagonX
8858
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:26:00 -
[12] - Quote
Active scanner is OP or dampening and passive scanning is UP. Take your pick because there is an imbalance.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
|
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
436
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:28:00 -
[13] - Quote
I miss it when active scanners did not exist, and I long for those days to return again. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
692
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:28:00 -
[14] - Quote
PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Sprint a few meters 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'
Take two steps back 'SCAN ATTEMP PREVENTED'
Strafe a few meters 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'
KILL THE SCANNER WEILDER
I know, right?
I mean, it's not like the person using it can be 100+ meters away from you through multiple walls AND behind or around other red dots. And it is true that the game has a cap of one Active Scanner on the field...
I think your right. Simply killing the Scanner wielder seems like an easy counter.
CCP, Geth Infiltrator is OP! plz nerf.
|
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
568
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:32:00 -
[15] - Quote
Skill into profile dampeners, on all medium frames one complex dampener gets you under ADV scanners and two get you under the proto 25 sec scanner and scouts only need one for it.
You have to sacrifice some health to get stealth. Its all about the meta and right now scanning can be countered very easily but people don't want to adapt. |
HiddenBrother
Days of Ruin
18
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:39:00 -
[16] - Quote
stlcarlos989 wrote:
You have to sacrifice some health to get stealth. Its all about the meta and right now scanning can be countered very easily but people don't want to adapt.
I agree.
"Such, and such has managed to get me killed; nerf it."
As opposed to using one of their slots for a profile dampener.
Ruin.
|
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
741
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:41:00 -
[17] - Quote
Even if you do get your profile dampening high enough to avoid active scanners, the problem is the margin of error. Even if they can't know your exact position, they know that you are within a 90 degree cone of the surrounding area, which is more than enough to start looking for you.
Seriously, if they just removed the stupid margin of error message, active scanners would be a lot more balanced, on top of removing the duvolle focused scanner.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 13th
|
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
569
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:45:00 -
[18] - Quote
Denak Kalamari wrote:Even if you do get your profile dampening high enough to avoid active scanners, the problem is the margin of error. Even if they can't know your exact position, they know that you are within a 90 degree cone of the surrounding area, which is more than enough to start looking for you.
Seriously, if they just removed the stupid margin of error message, active scanners would be a lot more balanced, on top of removing the duvolle focused scanner.
No one just points it straight at one direction they do a 360 and when they see that margin of error they have no idea where the stealth enemy is and begin to panic. |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
516
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:51:00 -
[19] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:Seriously. All you have to do is "paint" your targets locations when they are about to flank you, and say, "OPE! The enemy is that way!", and just win every match. No element of surprise. It kind of feels like using hacks in a game when I pull out that scanner...
"OPE! The enemy is that way!" Changed My Life! I'm even winning Caldari FW!
Chicago resident Emily, 25, struggled with her "paint" for five years. She tried every over-the-counter product she could find...with some margin of error results. Then she tried Proactiv Scanners and started seeing a difference in just 3 days. Emily documented every step of her quarry. Check out the video diary about her sent to Proactiv Scanners here.
"Because beer, that's why."
|
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
741
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 06:53:00 -
[20] - Quote
stlcarlos989 wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Even if you do get your profile dampening high enough to avoid active scanners, the problem is the margin of error. Even if they can't know your exact position, they know that you are within a 90 degree cone of the surrounding area, which is more than enough to start looking for you.
Seriously, if they just removed the stupid margin of error message, active scanners would be a lot more balanced, on top of removing the duvolle focused scanner. No one just points it straight at one direction they do a 360 and when they see that margin of error they have no idea where the stealth enemy is and begin to panic.
If they were actually competent, they would use the tactic explained at the bottom of this post. And even if they don't use this, they can just switch to a Duvolle focused scanner, which are nigh-impossible to avoid when they are used. This might not matter as much in pub matches, but in competitive matches like PC and FW to some extent, these tactics make the purpose of the scout pretty much useless.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 13th
|
|
|
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4215
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 07:04:00 -
[21] - Quote
stlcarlos989 wrote:Skill into profile dampeners, on all medium frames one complex dampener gets you under ADV scanners and two get you under the proto 25 sec scanner and scouts only need one for it.
You have to sacrifice some health to get stealth. Its all about the meta and right now scanning can be countered very easily but people don't want to adapt.
You already sacrifice more health running a Scout suit than you do by equipping dual dampeners on an Assault suit, and our upgraded suits still have some of the worst PG/CPU and slot layouts of any of the high-tier options. Pretty sure we deserve a buff SOMEWHERE - if not on our base stealth, then improved fitting capabilities on the higher-end suits would be nice. |
Rusty Shallows
580
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 07:07:00 -
[22] - Quote
stlcarlos989 wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Even if you do get your profile dampening high enough to avoid active scanners, the problem is the margin of error. Even if they can't know your exact position, they know that you are within a 90 degree cone of the surrounding area, which is more than enough to start looking for you.
Seriously, if they just removed the stupid margin of error message, active scanners would be a lot more balanced, on top of removing the duvolle focused scanner. No one just points it straight at one direction they do a 360 and when they see that margin of error they have no idea where the stealth enemy is and begin to panic.
But, but they have a limited acute angle to determine the scan... so they are balanced. *chokes on some vomit*
Why is it in this game every drawback goes to one extreme, either is doesn't do jack or it cripples something? There is no middle ground. Like some cosmic joke.
Edit: Removed an excessively rude comment that wasn't necessary.
MCC Lounge Lizard
Forums > Game
Fix the game CCP
|
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
840
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 07:11:00 -
[23] - Quote
Denak Kalamari wrote:Even if you do get your profile dampening high enough to avoid active scanners, the problem is the margin of error. Even if they can't know your exact position, they know that you are within a 90 degree cone of the surrounding area, which is more than enough to start looking for you.
Seriously, if they just removed the stupid margin of error message, active scanners would be a lot more balanced, on top of removing the duvolle focused scanner.
Raise your hands everybody who has seen 'Some margin of Error' in, say, 2 weeks?
Smeehf.
|
Grimmiers
0uter.Heaven
381
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 07:56:00 -
[24] - Quote
Making the precision fall off based on range would be a nice step up along with making it so further reduces precision. That way far away scouts can still dip without dampeners and spinning 360 degrees would essentially make it not work nearly as well.
SoundCloud
Recruiter Link
Pronounced Grim-e-urs
|
D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
277
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 08:07:00 -
[25] - Quote
Quote:Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
Saw this and just laughed. If you are flanking the enemy then you should have a Complex profile dampener so that you can avoid the pesky scanners.
Me for one love them but I run in a full squad which automatically makes me a better team player than you. |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
86
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 08:18:00 -
[26] - Quote
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Sprint a few meters 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'
Take two steps back 'SCAN ATTEMP PREVENTED'
Strafe a few meters 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'
KILL THE SCANNER WIELDER I know, right? I mean, it's not like the person using it can be 100+ meters away from you through multiple walls AND behind or around other red dots. And it is true that the game has a cap of one Active Scanner on the field so it isn't like there can be more than one user... I think your right. Simply killing the Scanner wielder seems like an easy counter.
Someone who knows the pain. Make sure when you kill the scanner wielder make sure your screen reads YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED and make sure he can see you, with his eyes of course.
'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
You'd just LOVE to think it was the wind.
Dropship Extremist
|
Jebus McKing
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
216
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 09:25:00 -
[27] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:How can you not say the active scanner is OP.
It is simple.
I use dampeners.
So I can say it quite easily.
Active scanner is not OP.
@JebusMcKing // Rifle stats comparison spreadsheet.
ò_Ô
|
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
370
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 09:29:00 -
[28] - Quote
Jebus McKing wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:How can you not say the active scanner is OP. It is simple. I use dampeners. So I can say it quite easily. Active scanner is not OP.
How that the scanner user still nows you are there as the scanner is telling him "look out there is somebody hiding" dampeners are nice but you can't achieve stealth with them... |
jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
55
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 09:41:00 -
[29] - Quote
Korvin Lomont wrote:Jebus McKing wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:How can you not say the active scanner is OP. It is simple. I use dampeners. So I can say it quite easily. Active scanner is not OP. How that the scanner user still nows you are there as the scanner is telling him "look out there is somebody hiding" dampeners are nice but you can't achieve stealth with them...
Umm no I'm afraid not, try another excuse , was their gun more op than ur's too? Maybe the sun glare effects got in ur eye, better nerf those too.
Face it guys, your probably just not as good as u would like to think. Or your finding out the hard way that teamwork and co-ordination is "FOTM" |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
87
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 09:44:00 -
[30] - Quote
Valid point. I'm a lone wolf by nature but I do recognize when teamwork is needed.-That is all.
'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
You'd just LOVE to think it was the wind.
Dropship Extremist
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |