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Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 826	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:31:00 - [1] - Quote The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat. We will never care. I am referring to the Gallente Research facility and equipment spam at the supply depot. After the game bogs down they spam grenades. Easy win. More and more corps are resorting to this tactic. Go ahead sully the battfield with your style of combat. We will be exiting these matches. You are not worth our bullets or our attention. These same corps get stomped in a fair fight so we will find them in other battles and make them suffer. If you received or receive this message its not a compliment. You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. It does us no good to train and compete in these theaters of war, so we won't. if this pleases you, you have earned it
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4134	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:33:00 - [2] - Quote Imagine if they added a radius around supply depots that you couldn't drop equipment within. So many players would QQ. It would be awesome. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 54	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:45:00 - [3] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat. We will never care. I am referring to the Gallente Research facility and equipment spam at the supply depot. After the game bogs down they spam grenades. Easy win. More and more corps are resorting to this tactic. Go ahead sully the battfield with your style of combat. We will be exiting these matches. You are not worth our bullets or our attention. These same corps get stomped in a fair fight so we will find them in other battles and make them suffer. If you received or receive this message its not a compliment. You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. It does us no good to train and compete in these theaters of war, so we won't. if this pleases you, you have earned it Oh, so that's why you sent me that message? I spend most of that game repping a heavy and to be honest I'm not entirely sure what your complaint (this time) is. I don't even think I had grenades equipped that match. This really isn't something to clog up the forums with. Next time make your emails clear instead of accidentally congratulating me on my win and then having a hissy fit when I politely thank you for your email.
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 86	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:48:00 - [4] - Quote so YOU where the logi behind that lag monstrosity! bastard! Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 827	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:49:00 - [5] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat. We will never care. I am referring to the Gallente Research facility and equipment spam at the supply depot. After the game bogs down they spam grenades. Easy win. More and more corps are resorting to this tactic. Go ahead sully the battfield with your style of combat. We will be exiting these matches. You are not worth our bullets or our attention. These same corps get stomped in a fair fight so we will find them in other battles and make them suffer. If you received or receive this message its not a compliment. You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. It does us no good to train and compete in these theaters of war, so we won't. if this pleases you, you have earned it Oh, so that's why you sent me that message? I spend most of that game repping a heavy and to be honest I'm not entirely sure what your complaint (this time) is. I don't even think I had grenades equipped that match. This really isn't something to clog up the forums with. Next time make your emails clear instead of accidentally congratulating me on my win and then having a hissy fit when I politely thank you for your email. perhaps I was wrong, my bad. You can usually tell who is doing it as they will have twice as many points as second place. U did. If I was mistaken I apologize. Your corp has always been spit on by everyone I talk to. Again I apologize if you aren't lying thru your teeth.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 54	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:53:00 - [6] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat. We will never care. I am referring to the Gallente Research facility and equipment spam at the supply depot. After the game bogs down they spam grenades. Easy win. More and more corps are resorting to this tactic. Go ahead sully the battfield with your style of combat. We will be exiting these matches. You are not worth our bullets or our attention. These same corps get stomped in a fair fight so we will find them in other battles and make them suffer. If you received or receive this message its not a compliment. You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. It does us no good to train and compete in these theaters of war, so we won't. if this pleases you, you have earned it Oh, so that's why you sent me that message? I spend most of that game repping a heavy and to be honest I'm not entirely sure what your complaint (this time) is. I don't even think I had grenades equipped that match. This really isn't something to clog up the forums with. Next time make your emails clear instead of accidentally congratulating me on my win and then having a hissy fit when I politely thank you for your email. perhaps I was wrong, my bad. You can usually tell who is doing it as they will have twice as many points as second place. U did. If I was mistaken I apologize. Your corp has always been spit on by everyone I talk to. Again I apologize if you aren't lying thru your teeth. We're a pretty casual corp. No idea why anyone would spit anywhere near us. There was a heavy (came in top 4, can't remember his name) who must have had fully packed out complex armor plates and would run around with no health whatsoever. I just sat on him for most of the game and got a RIDICULOUS amount of WP while he just stood in the doorway soaking up damage. If he went down I needled him and started it all over again. I also had an uplink and a nanohive up, but I'm pretty sure my hives never lasted more than a few seconds from the grenade spam.
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES 62	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:02:00 - [7] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: so YOU where the logi behind that lag monstrosity! bastard! Off topic. T8R is the best dropship pilot in DUST. There I've said it.
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 86	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:03:00 - [8] - Quote what combat in the hallway? noone made it near the objective without grenade spam, if you're gonna lie make it believable lol. and everyone spits on your corp since you and your boys are known to be cookie cutter exploit abusers, nothing more, nothing less, everyone just expects a lot of cheating. Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 54	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:07:00 - [9] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: what combat in the hallway? noone made it near the objective without grenade spam, if you're gonna lie make it believable lol. and everyone spits on your corp since you and your boys are known to be cookie cutter exploit abusers, nothing more, nothing less, everyone just expects a lot of cheating. lol It was happening most of the game. You guys spawned up the little circular pipes in the room opposite the objective. But I'm really done arguing this if you've made up your mind about how I'm a horrible person or whatever you're saying. And I've definitely never come across anyone saying that about Subdreddit before. Can you point to any specific examples of this happening? I'd like to stay well informed of this. I can only personally think of one that we tested it out and it got patched the next day, so by all means fire away.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 828	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:08:00 - [10] - Quote I apologized for assuming you did it. My guy got in and fluxed the place he was gunned down by someone from your corp. Immediately after his body was covered in hives and uplinks. I laughed out loud. it is logical then to assume your involvement as you had no kills and the most warpoints. Your other corpmates had kills numbering in the teens. I'm not calling you a liar but I think your full of ****.

8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1075	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:09:00 - [11] - Quote Its sole intent is to lag out the game. Its a cheap exploitive tactic; cheating. A couple of well placed hivse and/or uplinks is worth 1000x that of spammed Supply Depots anyday, anyway. You'll get more WP by far and actually help your team.
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 86	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:11:00 - [12] - Quote I don't pay attention to time often, but it was a few matches ago. Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 831	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:16:00 - [13] - Quote This thread isn't made for calling these people out. We all know who these losers are. It is an attempt to explain why you see wolves disengaging from battle. We work closely with alot of smaller corps we are not leaving you to die. We are setting an example. There is honor and courage in new Eden, you have friends.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 858	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:21:00 - [14] - Quote 8213 wrote: Its sole intent is to lag out the game. Its a cheap exploitive tactic; cheating. A couple of well placed hivse and/or uplinks is worth 1000x that of spammed Supply Depots anyday, anyway. You'll get more WP by far and actually help your team. 750 wp from fluxing that spotGÇª not even kidding. Wish I was. KRRROOOOOOM
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 86	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:26:00 - [15] - Quote Look how quick this guy was to respond. So obvious. Way to make a big red sign pointing down labeled WUSSY. Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1442	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:27:00 - [16] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. Can you see the flaw in this? We fight to the end no matter what but if someone equipment spams we quit. Anyway yes equipment spam in that room is annoying and all some people do is hide in there with hives spamming grenades but there is a relatively easy counter. That map has atleast 4 points so what you do is let them have the point with the supply room and just let them hang around in there like fools and concentrate on the other points. I have had a few matches where everyone obsesses on that room so much that you can just run around and hack the other points virtually contested. Had one match where everyone was stupidly focused on that room, so I went round hacking the other points and I took all of the other points running solo meanwhile waves of suicide blueberrys were just throwing themselves at that room, we won on MCC just before they cloned us. Pretty sure one of the first tips in the art of war is to choose your ground, they decide to hide in one room, let them make them come to you. Its pretty basic if you see a strong point take it and hold it if they take it make sure they stay there. You don't have to have all the points to win just most. Sadly allot of people on this game will ignore hacking a point or taking a CRU if they see a reddot in the distance. FW standings - Gal 3 (briefly 4), Min 3, Ama 0, Cal 0, hatred of Scotty over 9000
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 831	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:29:00 - [17] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. Can you see the flaw in this? We fight to the end no matter what but if someone equipment spams we quit. Anyway yes equipment spam in that room is annoying and all some people do is hide in there with hives spamming grenades but there is a relatively easy counter. That map has atleast 4 points so what you do is let them have the point with the supply room and just let them hang around in there like fools and concentrate on the other points. I have had a few matches where everyone obsesses on that room so much that you can just run around and hack the other points virtually contested. Had one match where everyone was stupidly focused on that room, so I went round hacking the other points and I took all of the other points running solo meanwhile waves of suicide blueberrys were just throwing themselves at that room, we won on MCC just before they cloned us. Pretty sure one of the first tips in the art of war is to choose your ground, they decide to hide in one room, let them make them come to you. Its pretty basic if you see a strong point take it and hold it if they take it make sure they stay there. You don't have to have all the points to win just most. Sadly allot of people on this game will ignore hacking a point or taking a CRU if they see a reddot in the distance. Dom is different.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1443	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:33:00 - [18] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. Can you see the flaw in this? We fight to the end no matter what but if someone equipment spams we quit. Anyway yes equipment spam in that room is annoying and all some people do is hide in there with hives spamming grenades but there is a relatively easy counter. That map has atleast 4 points so what you do is let them have the point with the supply room and just let them hang around in there like fools and concentrate on the other points. I have had a few matches where everyone obsesses on that room so much that you can just run around and hack the other points virtually contested. Had one match where everyone was stupidly focused on that room, so I went round hacking the other points and I took all of the other points running solo meanwhile waves of suicide blueberrys were just throwing themselves at that room, we won on MCC just before they cloned us. Pretty sure one of the first tips in the art of war is to choose your ground, they decide to hide in one room, let them make them come to you. Its pretty basic if you see a strong point take it and hold it if they take it make sure they stay there. You don't have to have all the points to win just most. Sadly allot of people on this game will ignore hacking a point or taking a CRU if they see a reddot in the distance. Dom is different. Forgot about dom lol FW standings - Gal 3 (briefly 4), Min 3, Ama 0, Cal 0, hatred of Scotty over 9000
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1291	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:33:00 - [19] - Quote Why would anybody benefit from the game lacking anyways? Did I miss something? Does lagging due to this only effect the enemies? Quote: Can you point to any specific examples of this happening? Would like to know this too. I know some people spit on TEST in general for whatever reasons but Subdreddit? Haven't seen anybody spitting in our direction. On another hand it sounds like OP has something against us because you made more than 10 kills and a few thousand WP in that round? Not wanting to burst his bubble, but that is normal for decent squads.
Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES 109	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:34:00 - [20] - Quote Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that ** no more either. MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs**

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 831	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:37:00 - [21] - Quote The objective cannot be hacked once the spam starts. We have all been in these matches. If you pay attention you will see the pattern.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 55	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:37:00 - [22] - Quote Alright, well I can't follow a lot of the accusations you're throwing my way and I feel like I explained it pretty well, so it's pretty obvious I can't really say anything at this point that will make any difference. I had fun that game regardless since I finally got to go into crazy heal mode with a super stacked heavy (and I almost never get that opportunity due to the distinct lack of heavies in the game at the moment). Cheers, gents.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1443	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:41:00 - [23] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that **** no more either. You do realise that lag switching does not work with this game? FW standings - Gal 3 (briefly 4), Min 3, Ama 0, Cal 0, hatred of Scotty over 9000
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 831	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:43:00 - [24] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Alright, well I can't follow a lot of the accusations you're throwing my way and I feel like I explained it pretty well, so it's pretty obvious I can't really say anything at this point that will make any difference. I had fun that game regardless since I finally got to go into crazy heal mode with a super stacked heavy (and I almost never get that opportunity due to the distinct lack of heavies in the game at the moment). Cheers, gents. this isn't an isolated incident. Its the go to move for playin that map for some corps.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 831	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:52:00 - [25] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that **** no more either. You do realise that lag switching does not work with this game? there has been a tank recently that causes the entire match to lag whenever targeted. Not frame drop. This guy has been present both times. Excuse jalepeno plz. She eats tanks for breakfast.
Ensar Cael Dead Man's Game 48	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:57:00 - [26] - Quote Is there any corp you guys will fight? You seem to spend a great deal of time trying to pin things on other corps, as opposed to taking it on the chin and learning from it. DUST 514 can be damned annoying with all its bugs and all the rest, but you either deal with it or take a break. No I am not trying to troll. Just want you all to see how it look to us on the outside.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1444	Posted - 2013.12.17 00:58:00 - [27] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that **** no more either. You do realise that lag switching does not work with this game? there has been a tank recently that causes the entire match to lag whenever targeted. Not frame drop. This guy has been present both times. Excuse jalepeno plz. She eats tanks for breakfast. Can honestly say I have never seen anything like that you need to try and get a video to CCP this sounds like some kind of horrible glitch. FW standings - Gal 3 (briefly 4), Min 3, Ama 0, Cal 0, hatred of Scotty over 9000
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 833	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:04:00 - [28] - Quote Ensar Cael wrote: Is there any corp you guys will fight? You seem to spend a great deal of time trying to pin things on other corps, as opposed to taking it on the chin and learning from it. DUST 514 can be damned annoying with all its bugs and all the rest, but you either deal with it or take a break. No I am not trying to troll. Just want you all to see how it look to us on the outside. we fight everyone. This is not fighting though. It is a waste of time. I can go fight someplace else and win or lose on even ground.
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2013.12.17 01:59:00 - [29] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that ** no more either. I think someone is taking himself , his corp, and the game a tad too seriously.... EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services** today! Let's gank Scotty.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 835	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:09:00 - [30] - Quote Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that **** no more either. I think someone is taking himself , his corp, and the game a tad too seriously.... that's what u get for thinking. Jalapeno is our momma. Best logi in the game, she takes care of all us wolves and protects us from tanks. Plus she's Canadian, she's pretty laid back.

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 854	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:34:00 - [31] - Quote About the hell storm guy, we could only confirm his attendance in the matches with true lag. It was funny seeing mercs running up into the sky and teleporting all over. I'm not so sure it was his tank tho. I came across a match where this occurred we were trying to pinpoint the exact tank. It will be easier now that we have someone recording our matches. We will try and post a few vids. thanx Z3dog for makin the first Wolves video.
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 149	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:44:00 - [32] - Quote One question, when did GD turn into the War Room? Points at war room Take it there and lose the ambiguity, and actually call people out on this ****, its good drama =). Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, formerly mass driver, and now scrambler CQC spammer.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 855	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:51:00 - [33] - Quote Kal Kronos wrote: One question, when did GD turn into the War Room? Points at war room Take it there and lose the ambiguity, and actually call people out on this ****, its good drama =). I don't have to call people out. Every one sees the corps who do this. The thread got off topic. we despise cowards so I wanted to explain our leaving battles. We have never backed down from a fight. This isn't fighting, I feel no shame in turning my back on exploits and trash who are not even worthy to be called my enemy.
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2410	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:53:00 - [34] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that **** no more either. You do know lag switches don't work in this game right?
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2410	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:56:00 - [35] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that **** no more either. You do realise that lag switching does not work with this game? there has been a tank recently that causes the entire match to lag whenever targeted. Not frame drop. This guy has been present both times. Excuse jalepeno plz. She eats tanks for breakfast. Sorry but lag switches do not work in this game. To make a lag switch work successfully the player using the lag switch has to be the host. CCP hosts all of the battles in dust 514 so unless the person has hacked into CCPs battleservers there's no way there can be an effective lag switch (In this game if you try to use a lag switch it lags you out not anyone else)
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 855	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:02:00 - [36] - Quote Not sure don't use em. I have never accused anyone of using them. The process of doing it is a mystery to me. I put REs on a tank. Immediately he teleports everyone keeps firing and running the way they were facing. Grenades fly but the counter don't go down. Can't place equipment. What could cause this?
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2410	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:05:00 - [37] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Not sure don't use em. I have never accused anyone of using them. The process of doing it is a mystery to me. I put REs on a tank. Immediately he teleports everyone keeps firing and running the way they were facing. Grenades fly but the counter don't go down. Can't place equipment. What could cause this? Possibly just the user having a bad connection to the servers. It could also be a glitch but I think it's more of connection issues (Whether it be CCPs own servers or the persons own internet connection)
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 855	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:07:00 - [38] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Not sure don't use em. I have never accused anyone of using them. The process of doing it is a mystery to me. I put REs on a tank. Immediately he teleports everyone keeps firing and running the way they were facing. Grenades fly but the counter don't go down. Can't place equipment. What could cause this? Possibly just the user having a bad connection to the servers. It could also be a glitch but I think it's more of connection issues (Whether it be CCPs own servers or the persons own internet connection) Also the equipment spam could be the problem too. everyone in game experienced it. Alot of people left match because of it. equip spam seems to cause frame drop.
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2410	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:10:00 - [39] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Not sure don't use em. I have never accused anyone of using them. The process of doing it is a mystery to me. I put REs on a tank. Immediately he teleports everyone keeps firing and running the way they were facing. Grenades fly but the counter don't go down. Can't place equipment. What could cause this? Possibly just the user having a bad connection to the servers. It could also be a glitch but I think it's more of connection issues (Whether it be CCPs own servers or the persons own internet connection) Also the equipment spam could be the problem too. everyone in game experienced it. Alot of people left match because of it. Get more details about what unusual things happened in the battle from yourself and the members that were in the battle. Then send a ticket in to CCP (They usually reply within 24 hours) and make a thread in the Technical Support/Bugs forum which can be found here. Also a video would be helpful too.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 867	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:15:00 - [40] - Quote It sucks to play in an undeveloped game. Those who exploit and make everything miserable and those that want to test their skills. We need all weapons to kill effectively not only a few. The RR makes me grief. It seems too powerful. +1 I get sick of how people play by using OP weapons like everyone else. This makes for a crappy game.

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 857	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:19:00 - [41] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Not sure don't use em. I have never accused anyone of using them. The process of doing it is a mystery to me. I put REs on a tank. Immediately he teleports everyone keeps firing and running the way they were facing. Grenades fly but the counter don't go down. Can't place equipment. What could cause this? Possibly just the user having a bad connection to the servers. It could also be a glitch but I think it's more of connection issues (Whether it be CCPs own servers or the persons own internet connection) Also the equipment spam could be the problem too. everyone in game experienced it. Alot of people left match because of it. Get more details about what unusual things happened in the battle from yourself and the members that were in the battle. Then send a ticket in to CCP (They usually reply within 24 hours) and make a thread in the Technical Support/Bugs forum. that's someone else deal. We are just going to find real battles to train in. If we come across it while recording I'll have Z3dog post a link, but these "tactics" have wasted enough of our time. Most of my guys are casual players. This is our free time, why spend it fighting a team who has to resort to such practices?
Canaan Knute Valor Coalition 153	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:20:00 - [42] - Quote Does anyone have a screenshot of the match results? I was in a match like this with a Subreddit squad and I have a feeling it's the same one.
Mithridates VI 2151	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:27:00 - [43] - Quote This thread is stupidity and tears. I am going to lol every time I see your corp name. The Art of War IN SPACE
Mithridates VI 2152	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:31:00 - [44] - Quote "Sorry Anders if you're not lying (I'm implying that you're lying)" "You had too many points, therefore you're full of ****." "I'm not trying to call anyone out." Dear lord, I am making equipment spam fits just in case I see people from your corp in my matches, your butthurt is hilarious. The Art of War IN SPACE
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 857	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:33:00 - [45] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: This thread is stupidity and tears. I am going to lol every time I see your corp name. thanks, I was dying to hear your opinion. Weren't you the guy imperfects used for target practice? How you been?
Mithridates VI 2152	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:38:00 - [46] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: This thread is stupidity and tears. I am going to lol every time I see your corp name. thanks, I was dying to hear your opinion. Weren't you the guy imperfects used for target practice? How you been? Why would the Imperfects practice shooting targets? We were purely a social faction for MCC parties, you're clearly misremembering. I've been good, hanging back from engaging in the forums for a while, but hilariously delicious tantrums like this have brought me back. The Art of War IN SPACE
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 857	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:42:00 - [47] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: This thread is stupidity and tears. I am going to lol every time I see your corp name. thanks, I was dying to hear your opinion. Weren't you the guy imperfects used for target practice? How you been? Why would the Imperfects practice shooting targets? We were purely a social faction for MCC parties, you're clearly misremembering. I've been good, hanging back from engaging in the forums for a while, but hilariously delicious tantrums like this have brought me back. welcome back. No tantrums here. A little apathy and disgust. Should squad up some time.
Mithridates VI 2152	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:49:00 - [48] - Quote It was a pretty well contained flounce until you started snarking at Anders for lying. It got progressively more pathetic and passive aggressive as it went from there. How did you intend to be read with gems like "Your corp has always been spit on by everyone I talk to. Again I apologize if you aren't lying thru your teeth." "it is logical then to assume your involvement as you had no kills and the most warpoints. Your other corpmates had kills numbering in the teens. I'm not calling you a liar but I think your full of **." (In the same post as an apology for your error, sweet merciful **, figure out what your position is before you post) Do you have some social issues that I should be aware of before I judge this interaction too harshly or are you trying unsuccessfully to subtly dismiss Subdreddit under guise of "other people say this"? Do you feel like a master of diplomacy? The Art of War IN SPACE
Mithridates VI 2152	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:50:00 - [49] - Quote *Ander even. Too much Dragon Age for me. The Art of War IN SPACE
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 252	Posted - 2013.12.17 08:00:00 - [50] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Imagine if they added a radius around supply depots that you couldn't drop equipment within. So many players would QQ. It would be awesome. Yep it's clear this needs to be done - in a more general sense there needs to be a radius limit in any area of the game to avoid this kind of spam... they could call it EM interference or something if you already had an uplink or nanohive in the proximity and it wouldn't let you deploy your equipment OR it would let you deploy it, but it would remain "inactive" until the interference was gone...

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 858	Posted - 2013.12.17 08:02:00 - [51] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: It was a pretty well contained flounce until you started snarking at Anders for lying. It got progressively more pathetic and passive aggressive as it went from there. How did you intend to be read with gems like "Your corp has always been spit on by everyone I talk to. Again I apologize if you aren't lying thru your teeth." "it is logical then to assume your involvement as you had no kills and the most warpoints. Your other corpmates had kills numbering in the teens. I'm not calling you a liar but I think your full of **." (In the same post as an apology for your error, sweet merciful , figure out what your position is before you post) Do you have some social issues that I should be aware of before I judge this interaction too harshly or are you trying unsuccessfully to subtly dismiss Subdreddit under guise of "other people say this"? Do you feel like a master of diplomacy? perhaps I was out of line. I really can't be sure. That match was the point where we decided to say ** it. Free time is valuable, sucks wasting it in a match without the chance to do anything but skip about.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 858	Posted - 2013.12.17 08:05:00 - [52] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: *Ander even. Too much Dragon Age for me. which one? I tried a glitch and ruined the play value of the second one. Never picked it back up again.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 76	Posted - 2013.12.17 08:05:00 - [53] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: *Ander even. Too much Dragon Age for me. It's a pretty common mistake, thanks for catching it :)
Mithridates VI 2155	Posted - 2013.12.17 08:12:00 - [54] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: *Ander even. Too much Dragon Age for me. which one? I tried a glitch and ruined the play value of the second one. Never picked it back up again. First one. Can't stand the companions in the second. I think if you're entertaining the possibility you were out of the line, you should reread that interaction and consider whether you owe anyone an apology. Free to handle it how you want, but I have this personal distaste for people don't own their errors, especially if they're capable of casually entertaining the possibility of them. Do you think that Ander's explanation of getting points by repping a heavy is so much less likely than your speculation (based purely on points which his explanation covers perfectly well) that your bared teeth and snarking were appropriate? The Art of War IN SPACE
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 858	Posted - 2013.12.17 08:41:00 - [55] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: *Ander even. Too much Dragon Age for me. which one? I tried a glitch and ruined the play value of the second one. Never picked it back up again. First one. Can't stand the companions in the second. I think if you're entertaining the possibility you were out of the line, you should reread that interaction and consider whether you owe anyone an apology. Free to handle it how you want, but I have this personal distaste for people don't own their errors, especially if they're capable of casually entertaining the possibility of them. Do you think that Ander's explanation of getting points by repping a heavy is so much less likely than your speculation (based purely on points which his explanation covers perfectly well) that your bared teeth and snarking were appropriate? only he knows. I'll reread my earlier posts. Maybe Subdreddit gets off the hook. Spits on is pretty harsh.
Acturus Galaxy Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 301	Posted - 2013.12.17 08:57:00 - [56] - Quote There are definitely some corps that practice this and abuses it in every match. As a scout I often sneak by the supply depots in the matches where lag is noticeable. And as expected, lots of equipment are placed all over the place. I destroy the stuff, gets lots of warpoints and notice the lag has decreased. I can repeat this a minute later in the same match. In one match I went past the supply depot four times and managed three times to destroy the equipment spam. I will not mention the names of the corps doing this, but have made notes and will never have anything to do with these corps. Leave matches if I am put on the same team as them. They are cowardly and fight dishonestly, they are lawless scum, they are beneath lawless scum, they are filth of new Eden
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 858	Posted - 2013.12.17 10:33:00 - [57] - Quote I never considered being on the same side. CCP could make equipment take friendly fire. This way people who don't want to win by spam can stop it from the inside. It could be a quick fix until something else can be done.
Vile Heathen Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 845	Posted - 2013.12.17 23:54:00 - [58] - Quote Darken-sol, it's time to take off your tinfoil hat.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1825	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:31:00 - [59] - Quote Ha, I remember Ander being confused about that message. I just assumed it was a passive aggressive GG. I guess that was wrong. I also guess using uplinks and exploits is cheating. I used the mass driver and uplinks that match. I am the "cheater" for using uplinks on domination though we are honor bound to spawn at the point (this was domination), and for using explosives to take out tightly packed groups of armor tankers. My bad. Just so you know the entire strategy for that map is to place uplinks higher than the opposing teams while also having some uplinks on the point. That's alot of uplinks in one area, but it's also how you play that map. That's nothing new. Get to a higher position and push downward. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
HiddenBrother Days of Ruin 17	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:48:00 - [60] - Quote Shouldn't this thread be about OP tanks, and how I managed to get five kills with said tank? Ruin.

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 876	Posted - 2013.12.18 04:59:00 - [61] - Quote HiddenBrother wrote: Shouldn't this thread be about OP tanks, and how I managed to get five kills with said tank? nope.
abarkrishna WarRavens 178	Posted - 2013.12.18 05:24:00 - [62] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: It was a pretty well contained flounce until you started snarking at Anders for lying. It got progressively more pathetic and passive aggressive as it went from there. How did you intend to be read with gems like "Your corp has always been spit on by everyone I talk to. Again I apologize if you aren't lying thru your teeth." "it is logical then to assume your involvement as you had no kills and the most warpoints. Your other corpmates had kills numbering in the teens. I'm not calling you a liar but I think your full of **." (In the same post as an apology for your error, sweet merciful **, figure out what your position is before you post) Do you have some social issues that I should be aware of before I judge this interaction too harshly or are you trying unsuccessfully to subtly dismiss Subdreddit under guise of "other people say this"? Do you feel like a master of diplomacy? You are my hero! No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 616	Posted - 2013.12.18 05:28:00 - [63] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat. We will never care. I am referring to the Gallente Research facility and equipment spam at the supply depot. After the game bogs down they spam grenades. Easy win. More and more corps are resorting to this tactic. Go ahead sully the battfield with your style of combat. We will be exiting these matches. You are not worth our bullets or our attention. These same corps get stomped in a fair fight so we will find them in other battles and make them suffer. If you received or receive this message its not a compliment. You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. It does us no good to train and compete in these theaters of war, so we won't. if this pleases you, you have earned it There is no honor in video games you idiot. Stop taking this virtual object so seriously.
abarkrishna WarRavens 179	Posted - 2013.12.18 05:56:00 - [64] - Quote Ok. So let me get this straight here. Your upset because the go to strategy for a specific map is to throw hives and links and secure a particular area. Instead of suggesting constructive ways of finding a solution to the problem you instead call out a few corps, without even calling them out. (which is a shame for humor's sake) Insert picture of Xzibit here. What is the first rule in war? Adapt or die That being said many people are fairly competitive and will do whatever it takes to win. Sometimes that means adapting to a broken game mechanic to succeed. I hate to be the one to break it to you but BattleCoD 514 is pretty broken right now. There have been lag and frame rate issues in PC since PC began. Those issues are now moving into pub matches. CCP really needs to do some optimization and fix the core of this game. In fact they need to do that more than anything else in this game. Lag switching is a myth in this game. If you think it is possible you really need to do some ******* research. If you have ever played a logi before you would know that it is extremely easy to get 2000+ Wp in a game without getting a kill. 90% of the WP rewards are equipment based. That means that the suit with the most equipment will have the best possible chance of getting a lot of WP. That is not balanced. The fact of the matter is CCP really needs to do a massive texturing and optimization overhaul. No one is cheating, the game is broken. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 877	Posted - 2013.12.18 06:50:00 - [65] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: Ok. So let me get this straight here. Your upset because the go to strategy for a specific map is to throw hives and links and secure a particular area. Instead of suggesting constructive ways of finding a solution to the problem you instead call out a few corps, without even calling them out. (which is a shame for humor's sake) Insert picture of Xzibit here. What is the first rule in war? Adapt or die That being said many people are fairly competitive and will do whatever it takes to win. Sometimes that means adapting to a broken game mechanic to succeed. I hate to be the one to break it to you but BattleCoD 514 is pretty broken right now. There have been lag and frame rate issues in PC since PC began. Those issues are now moving into pub matches. CCP really needs to do some optimization and fix the core of this game. In fact they need to do that more than anything else in this game. Lag switching is a myth in this game. If you think it is possible you really need to do some ***** research. If you have ever played a logi before you would know that it is extremely easy to get 2000+ Wp in a game without getting a kill. 90% of the WP rewards are equipment based. That means that the suit with the most equipment will have the best possible chance of getting a lot of WP. That is not balanced. The fact of the matter is CCP really needs to do a massive texturing and optimization overhaul. No one is cheating, the game is broken. first of all shut up. My ** has more sp than you. I know how to logi and its not about spamming links and rep hives. Your advice is un needed. . I didnt call anyone out publicly. Anders felt the need to show his face here. His buddy came forward and showed a little integrity. Anders could have mentioned it but chose to play victim.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 877	Posted - 2013.12.18 06:51:00 - [66] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat. We will never care. I am referring to the Gallente Research facility and equipment spam at the supply depot. After the game bogs down they spam grenades. Easy win. More and more corps are resorting to this tactic. Go ahead sully the battfield with your style of combat. We will be exiting these matches. You are not worth our bullets or our attention. These same corps get stomped in a fair fight so we will find them in other battles and make them suffer. If you received or receive this message its not a compliment. You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. It does us no good to train and compete in these theaters of war, so we won't. if this pleases you, you have earned it There is no honor in video games you idiot. Stop taking this virtual object so seriously. I have honor wherever I chose to go.
abarkrishna WarRavens 180	Posted - 2013.12.18 07:02:00 - [67] - Quote If you had any reading comprehension you would know that I did not say you called anyone out specifically. In fact I inferred that you did not have the gall to do it. Again. Instead of being a self righteous jerk why not be constructive and try and find solutions to the underlying problem which would be lag and poor frame rate in this example. And I leave with you with this famous quote. Quote: Don't hate the player. Hate the game. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Mithridates VI 2195	Posted - 2013.12.18 07:04:00 - [68] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: I have honor wherever I chose to go. Shame that you've got corp members starting threads and threatening to grief. Kinda tarnishes all that honour, yeah? >What, you think the forums are for trash talk and being mean? >NO! This is a SRS PLACE for SRS DISCUSSION GÇö Patrick57
DJINN Kujo Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 789	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:21:00 - [69] - Quote get a SSD - problem solved Ancient Exiles, CEO Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1437	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:43:00 - [70] - Quote do you know what I love the most about this thread ...its all the mercs who are guilty of lagging maches out with equipment spam are defending themselves by pretending that they are none the wiser about the consequences of their spam .....and yes 3 or 4 uplinks spread out in tactical locations is fine but throwing down 10+ uplinks and 30+ nanno hives round an underground supply depo where no one can get close because of the lag to flux it clean IS NOT a valid tactic it is simply abusing faulty game mechanics and pretty much cheating ......possibly the folks responsible have no other way to pad their stats we should all feel sorry for them while they sit in their moms basements wondering why they never succeeded in life Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior

Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1828	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:56:00 - [71] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: I have honor wherever I chose to go. Is this the honorable route? Really? I don't believe that. pegasis prime wrote: do you know what I love the most about this thread ...its all the mercs who are guilty of lagging maches out with equipment spam are defending themselves by pretending that they are none the wiser about the consequences of their spam .....and yes 3 or 4 uplinks spread out in tactical locations is fine but throwing down 10+ uplinks and 30+ nanno hives round an underground supply depo where no one can get close because of the lag to flux it clean IS NOT a valid tactic it is simply abusing faulty game mechanics and pretty much cheating ......possibly the folks responsible have no other way to pad their stats we should all feel sorry for them while they sit in their moms basements wondering why they never succeeded in life whee, ad hominem! And I still find it funny that the purpose of the uplinks and hives was to "lag switch" instead of having ammo and places to spawn. Mass drivers are very effective on that map. Mass drivers burn through ammo quickly. Thus running an effective mass driver fit requires a few hives. It's not any players fault that the equipment that is needed during a match is sometimes enough to lag out a match. Everyone here has bemoaned that fact. All it takes is a few people thinking "oh hey, domination - I should toss an uplink out" and you can easily get 10+ uplinks without planning it. If we wanted to break the game we'd find a more entertaining way of doing it. and then if we're called out we'd say "**** you, TEST IS BEST" This is not one of those cases. But please, keep talking about your "vidya gaem honor codes". Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1828	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:06:00 - [72] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: abarkrishna wrote: Ok. So let me get this straight here. Your upset because the go to strategy for a specific map is to throw hives and links and secure a particular area. Instead of suggesting constructive ways of finding a solution to the problem you instead call out a few corps, without even calling them out. (which is a shame for humor's sake) Insert picture of Xzibit here. What is the first rule in war? Adapt or die That being said many people are fairly competitive and will do whatever it takes to win. Sometimes that means adapting to a broken game mechanic to succeed. I hate to be the one to break it to you but BattleCoD 514 is pretty broken right now. There have been lag and frame rate issues in PC since PC began. Those issues are now moving into pub matches. CCP really needs to do some optimization and fix the core of this game. In fact they need to do that more than anything else in this game. Lag switching is a myth in this game. If you think it is possible you really need to do some ***** research. If you have ever played a logi before you would know that it is extremely easy to get 2000+ Wp in a game without getting a kill. 90% of the WP rewards are equipment based. That means that the suit with the most equipment will have the best possible chance of getting a lot of WP. That is not balanced. The fact of the matter is CCP really needs to do a massive texturing and optimization overhaul. No one is cheating, the game is broken. first of all shut up. My ** has more sp than you. I know how to logi and its not about spamming links and rep hives. Your advice is un needed. . I didnt call anyone out publicly. Anders felt the need to show his face here. His buddy came forward and showed a little integrity. Anders could have mentioned it but chose to play victim. Ha, I'm not sure you do know that logi is short for "logistics". You know, the people who support the frontline by making sure they have ammo and places to spawn? Keeping up the frontline supplied with ammo and personnel is the definition of logistics. uplinks and rep hives are currently the two best tools for that task. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 878	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:36:00 - [73] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I have honor wherever I chose to go. Shame that you've got corp members starting threads and threatening to grief. Kinda tarnishes all that honour, yeah? starting threads is dishonorable? Greifing, explain. I like talking to you man, your arguments are useful. I'm actually out of town doing a remodel, haven't had time to properly keep up with all the nitpicking. The wolves can howl and growl, I'm not their mommy. They know what I expect. You will never us see abusing a broken game mechanic to win. It is not winning, would you agree?
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 173	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:38:00 - [74] - Quote Imagine is there was a grenade that could kill all that equipment instantly? And it would also hurt shields and not kill friendlies? Whoa, what a grenade that would be! Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 878	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:40:00 - [75] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I have honor wherever I chose to go. Is this the honorable route? Really? I don't believe that. pegasis prime wrote: do you know what I love the most about this thread ...its all the mercs who are guilty of lagging maches out with equipment spam are defending themselves by pretending that they are none the wiser about the consequences of their spam .....and yes 3 or 4 uplinks spread out in tactical locations is fine but throwing down 10+ uplinks and 30+ nanno hives round an underground supply depo where no one can get close because of the lag to flux it clean IS NOT a valid tactic it is simply abusing faulty game mechanics and pretty much cheating ......possibly the folks responsible have no other way to pad their stats we should all feel sorry for them while they sit in their moms basements wondering why they never succeeded in life whee, ad hominem! And I still find it funny that the purpose of the uplinks and hives was to "lag switch" instead of having ammo and places to spawn. Mass drivers are very effective on that map. Mass drivers burn through ammo quickly. Thus running an effective mass driver fit requires a few hives. It's not any players fault that the equipment that is needed during a match is sometimes enough to lag out a match. Everyone here has bemoaned that fact. All it takes is a few people thinking "oh hey, domination - I should toss an uplink out" and you can easily get 10+ uplinks without planning it. If we wanted to break the game we'd find a more entertaining way of doing it. and then if we're called out we'd say "**** you, TEST IS BEST" This is not one of those cases. But please, keep talking about your "vidya gaem honor codes". I will. Keep doing whatever it is your doing here. It matters little what you think. You defend what you believe in. I will defend the things I believe in. If that makes us enemies or friends, who knows?
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1828	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:00:00 - [76] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I have honor wherever I chose to go. Shame that you've got corp members starting threads and threatening to grief. Kinda tarnishes all that honour, yeah? starting threads is dishonorable? Greifing, explain. I like talking to you man, your arguments are useful. I'm actually out of town doing a remodel, haven't had time to properly keep up with all the nitpicking. The wolves can howl and growl, I'm not their mommy. They know what I expect. You will never us see abusing a broken game mechanic to win. It is not winning, would you agree? Saying using lots of uplinks of domination is cheating is just wrong. That's how you play the gorram mode. In most modes the game is decided by who has the better spawns, and more uplinks gives your team better options and makes it much harder to push be pushed out of an objective. It's just basic logic for people to have a good number of uplinks and hives in an area you are defending. And accusing people of lying and cheating because you lost is a hell of a lot more dishonorable than using the equipment that's in the game the way it's meant to be used. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 168	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:06:00 - [77] - Quote The simple fact is that equipment spam causes lag. Whether it's pubs, FW or PC. I can't name a corp I haven't seen do it. Whether it's intentional or not I'm not sure. Unfortunately the best way to win any battle is to have mass amounts of uplinks spread out for quick regrouping and hives/triage hives laid out near objectives to keep the troops up. This causes lag. I for one drop a few uplinks, a few hives and a few triage hives at whatever point I'm defending. I do it to support my squad/team, not to intentionally lag the opponent. As for supply depot equipment spam, that's just a bunch of WP whores most of the time. Usually both teams receive mass amounts of lag on the Research Facility when this happens from my experience. I don't see it used as a 'tactic' very often, just a bunch of logis trying to get a better pay day.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 878	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:21:00 - [78] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I have honor wherever I chose to go. Shame that you've got corp members starting threads and threatening to grief. Kinda tarnishes all that honour, yeah? starting threads is dishonorable? Greifing, explain. I like talking to you man, your arguments are useful. I'm actually out of town doing a remodel, haven't had time to properly keep up with all the nitpicking. The wolves can howl and growl, I'm not their mommy. They know what I expect. You will never us see abusing a broken game mechanic to win. It is not winning, would you agree? Saying using lots of uplinks of domination is cheating is just wrong. That's how you play the gorram mode. In most modes the game is decided by who has the better spawns, and more uplinks gives your team better options and makes it much harder to push be pushed out of an objective. It's just basic logic for people to have a good number of uplinks and hives in an area you are defending. And accusing people of lying and cheating because you lost is a hell of a lot more dishonorable than using the equipment that's in the game the way it's meant to be used. it is an exploit currently. My corp is logi heavy. We use uplinks and hives too. No hives need to be by a supply depot. What is happening and what you are defending is a frame rate drop caused by spamming equipment. This must be the meta you all take so much pride in. we can tell when its getting to be to much equipment on the field. At this point you can employ reppers and use up the links. Not hard, it sounds like you are one of the guys that continues to contribute to an overall broken mechanic. That's your choice, what will you do when and if they gimp your signature move? I know it won't hurt us one bit.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1660	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:28:00 - [79] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I have honor wherever I chose to go. Is this the honorable route? Really? I don't believe that. pegasis prime wrote: do you know what I love the most about this thread ...its all the mercs who are guilty of lagging maches out with equipment spam are defending themselves by pretending that they are none the wiser about the consequences of their spam .....and yes 3 or 4 uplinks spread out in tactical locations is fine but throwing down 10+ uplinks and 30+ nanno hives round an underground supply depo where no one can get close because of the lag to flux it clean IS NOT a valid tactic it is simply abusing faulty game mechanics and pretty much cheating ......possibly the folks responsible have no other way to pad their stats we should all feel sorry for them while they sit in their moms basements wondering why they never succeeded in life whee, ad hominem! And I still find it funny that the purpose of the uplinks and hives was to "lag switch" instead of having ammo and places to spawn. Mass drivers are very effective on that map. Mass drivers burn through ammo quickly. Thus running an effective mass driver fit requires a few hives. It's not any players fault that the equipment that is needed during a match is sometimes enough to lag out a match. Everyone here has bemoaned that fact. All it takes is a few people thinking "oh hey, domination - I should toss an uplink out" and you can easily get 10+ uplinks without planning it. If we wanted to break the game we'd find a more entertaining way of doing it. and then if we're called out we'd say "**** you, TEST IS BEST" This is not one of those cases. But please, keep talking about your "vidya gaem honor codes". I will. Keep doing whatever it is your doing here. It matters little what you think. You defend what you believe in. I will defend the things I believe in. If that makes us enemies or friends, who knows? It makes you a Butthurt. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1660	Posted - 2013.12.18 14:37:00 - [80] - Quote If you can't confine/eliminate players in a small room that has only two exit, you're either doing it wrong or you're playing against opponents that are better than you. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord

Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1831	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:02:00 - [81] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I have honor wherever I chose to go. Shame that you've got corp members starting threads and threatening to grief. Kinda tarnishes all that honour, yeah? starting threads is dishonorable? Greifing, explain. I like talking to you man, your arguments are useful. I'm actually out of town doing a remodel, haven't had time to properly keep up with all the nitpicking. The wolves can howl and growl, I'm not their mommy. They know what I expect. You will never us see abusing a broken game mechanic to win. It is not winning, would you agree? Saying using lots of uplinks of domination is cheating is just wrong. That's how you play the gorram mode. In most modes the game is decided by who has the better spawns, and more uplinks gives your team better options and makes it much harder to push be pushed out of an objective. It's just basic logic for people to have a good number of uplinks and hives in an area you are defending. And accusing people of lying and cheating because you lost is a hell of a lot more dishonorable than using the equipment that's in the game the way it's meant to be used. it is an exploit currently. My corp is logi heavy. We use uplinks and hives too. No hives need to be by a supply depot. What is happening and what you are defending is a frame rate drop caused by spamming equipment. This must be the meta you all take so much pride in. we can tell when its getting to be to much equipment on the field. At this point you can employ reppers and use up the links. Not hard, it sounds like you are one of the guys that continues to contribute to an overall broken mechanic. That's your choice, what will you do when and if they gimp your signature move? I know it won't hurt us one bit. ha, I ran a standard hive (max active = 1) and a standard uplink (again, only 1 active) to save cpu/pg for more damage on my MD. So that means my signature move is uplink spam, which I'm still not sure exactly how it's exploiting game mechanics. And about that supply depot room, I didn't really go near it that match as I was too busy "spamming" uplinks on high ground. But it would be absolutely idiotic to not reinforce that area with repair hives and uplinks. Why the hell should it be left lightly reinforced to give the reds a foothold? it's an important area. Giving up that area or the high ground is a recipe for disaster, so even though I have no clue who did that spam I'm glad they did and wish I could claim the handiwork. It kept the objective's flank covered and protected. So do you actually have an argument for why I should have went on team comms and yelled at people for using too many uplinks or reinforcing an important area? Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 880	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:40:00 - [82] - Quote Anarchide wrote: If you can't confine/eliminate players in a small room that has only two exit, you're either doing it wrong or you're playing against opponents that are better than you. or your frame rate has dropped drastically because of an exploit making you susceptible to an unlimited supply of grenades. I understand what you are saying, we are actually in agreement. It should be no problem, however it is next to impossible under these conditions. Think a little bit before you open your mouth.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1662	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:50:00 - [83] - Quote Why am I not affected by this lag? I face similar tactics too. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Ensar Cael Dead Man's Game 54	Posted - 2013.12.18 15:59:00 - [84] - Quote I get all kinds of lag in different matches, equipment spam or not. I just keep fighting through it or avoid the area of lag and let those that can get at the enemy. It can be a deciding factor, but not always. Seems to be a LOT of threads made by the BBW lately all crying about something or other reason why they lose matches. Could it be that they are just needing to work on their game plan a little more? I have noticed that they get stomped on a LOT!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 880	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:10:00 - [85] - Quote Ensar Cael wrote: I get all kinds of lag in different matches, equipment spam or not. I just keep fighting through it or avoid the area of lag and let those that can get at the enemy. It can be a deciding factor, but not always. Seems to be a LOT of threads made by the BBW lately all crying about something or other reason why they lose matches. Could it be that they are just needing to work on their game plan a little more? I have noticed that they get stomped on a LOT! I noticed this too. When 1.7 dropped we lost a bit of cohesion. Everyone was out havin a blast messin with the new stuff. This was the focus of a recent corp meeting. You should see us doing well again soon. Also we fight primarily for Amar caldari. That is humbling. so the vacation is over and we are back to training.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1662	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:33:00 - [86] - Quote Don't forget the "Back to have Fun" bit too! Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 880	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:49:00 - [87] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Don't forget the "Back to have Fun" bit too! when battle is thick,you got a fierce opponent, and it comes down to clones 5 seconds before your MCC blows up, that's fun. Good fights are the best. I like fightin people who throw assets at the field. It gives us a chance to play with our toys. I suspect after the holidays are over we will get a bit more serious. We have alot of casual players at our core and life calls. I just restarted my log on bonus because I was remodeling a ladys bathroom till 1130 pm. She payed with a check so I was stranded out of town til I cud cash it. **** happens. This build is fun. The forums are even fun. Happy holidays.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1437	Posted - 2013.12.18 16:59:00 - [88] - Quote im now laughing my ass of at some of the responses of folks defending the spam ......pretending they have never experienced the lag due to equipment spamming ..especially in locations where the lag makes it impossible to get near and clear out. this is hilarious these guy's actually kid themselves that doing this is an actual victory , lol how is this game going to retain new players when these guys are intentionally lagging out maps to the point of unplayable .. don't worry we shall have vids soon of this as one of our wolves has started recording ...... then everyone here who defends this tactic will look like utter pisshead mourns. Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 880	Posted - 2013.12.18 17:17:00 - [89] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: im now laughing my ass of at some of the responses of folks defending the spam ......pretending they have never experienced the lag due to equipment spamming ..especially in locations where the lag makes it impossible to get near and clear out. this is hilarious these guy's actually kid themselves that doing this is an actual victory , lol how is this game going to retain new players when these guys are intentionally lagging out maps to the point of unplayable .. don't worry we shall have vids soon of this as one of our wolves has started recording ...... then everyone here who defends this tactic will look like utter pisshead mourns. I've noticed if you ignore them they go away. This thread isnt about them. It was supposed to be about us. We can get dragged into an engagement with these guys but they will just resort to their one trick pony. Let em defend their pathetic tactic.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1437	Posted - 2013.12.18 17:52:00 - [90] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: pegasis prime wrote: im now laughing my ass of at some of the responses of folks defending the spam ......pretending they have never experienced the lag due to equipment spamming ..especially in locations where the lag makes it impossible to get near and clear out. this is hilarious these guy's actually kid themselves that doing this is an actual victory , lol how is this game going to retain new players when these guys are intentionally lagging out maps to the point of unplayable .. don't worry we shall have vids soon of this as one of our wolves has started recording ...... then everyone here who defends this tactic will look like utter pisshead mourns. I've noticed if you ignore them they go away. This thread isnt about them. It was supposed to be about us. We can get dragged into an engagement with these guys but they will just resort to their one trick pony. Let em defend their pathetic tactic. o7 Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior

Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 127	Posted - 2013.12.18 18:06:00 - [91] - Quote I feel you Darken. These tactics are revolting. I can't condemn the cheaters tho. Many people have that win at any cost mentality and they arent the ones who made this game with the weaknesses it has. That being said i wouldnt do it. It would cheapen the victory for me
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 886	Posted - 2013.12.18 18:15:00 - [92] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: I feel you Darken. These tactics are revolting. I can't condemn the cheaters tho. Many people have that win at any cost mentality and they arent the ones who made this game with the weaknesses it has. That being said i wouldnt do it. It would cheapen the victory for me. Like pepper spraying someone then beating them up. this is honor. If more people had some we could have a decent fight on that map. It was awesome before people brought their spam. I blame PC. Every time I merc this seems to be what battles come down to.the exception being AE. They were just tough as hell. The last few minutes dropped frames but they had already won.
Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 127	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:48:00 - [93] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: I feel you Darken. These tactics are revolting. I can't condemn the cheaters tho. Many people have that win at any cost mentality and they arent the ones who made this game with the weaknesses it has. That being said i wouldnt do it. It would cheapen the victory for me. Like pepper spraying someone then beating them up. this is honor. If more people had some we could have a decent fight on that map. It was awesome before people brought their spam. I blame PC. Every time I merc this seems to be what battles come down to.the exception being AE. They were just tough as hell. The last few minutes dropped frames but they had already won. AE is no exception they use EQ spam just like everyone else
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 887	Posted - 2013.12.18 23:58:00 - [94] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: I feel you Darken. These tactics are revolting. I can't condemn the cheaters tho. Many people have that win at any cost mentality and they arent the ones who made this game with the weaknesses it has. That being said i wouldnt do it. It would cheapen the victory for me. Like pepper spraying someone then beating them up. this is honor. If more people had some we could have a decent fight on that map. It was awesome before people brought their spam. I blame PC. Every time I merc this seems to be what battles come down to.the exception being AE. They were just tough as hell. The last few minutes dropped frames but they had already won. AE is no exception they use EQ spam just like everyone else we merced against anon and fought AE. It was legit. It was like 3 am, we only had 11 guys show up on our side, some of my guys were runnin adv gear. Tough fight.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1836	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:33:00 - [95] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: I feel you Darken. These tactics are revolting. I can't condemn the cheaters tho. Many people have that win at any cost mentality and they arent the ones who made this game with the weaknesses it has. That being said i wouldnt do it. It would cheapen the victory for me. Like pepper spraying someone then beating them up. this is honor. If more people had some we could have a decent fight on that map. It was awesome before people brought their spam. I blame PC. Every time I merc this seems to be what battles come down to.the exception being AE. They were just tough as hell. The last few minutes dropped frames but they had already won. again, I challenge your idea of what is honorable. This is not dark souls where you bow before pvp. there is no bushido code that guides us. In this game you place enough uplinks to prevent anyone to pushing you out easily and put hives where people need to go for ammo and repairs. Any pretext of this being dishonorable seems to me that people are stating "this tactic beat me, therefore it's an cheating exploit" It's up to you to play the game that exists as it is, not some weird code where using uplinks and rep hives where you need them is "cheating" Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 888	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:36:00 - [96] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: I feel you Darken. These tactics are revolting. I can't condemn the cheaters tho. Many people have that win at any cost mentality and they arent the ones who made this game with the weaknesses it has. That being said i wouldnt do it. It would cheapen the victory for me. Like pepper spraying someone then beating them up. this is honor. If more people had some we could have a decent fight on that map. It was awesome before people brought their spam. I blame PC. Every time I merc this seems to be what battles come down to.the exception being AE. They were just tough as hell. The last few minutes dropped frames but they had already won. again, I challenge your idea of what is honorable. This is not dark souls where you bow before pvp. there is no bushido code that guides us. In this game you place enough uplinks to prevent anyone to pushing you out easily and put hives where people need to go for ammo and repairs. Any pretext of this being dishonorable seems to me that people are stating "this tactic beat me, therefore it's an cheating exploit" It's up to you to play the game that exists as it is, not some weird code where using uplinks and rep hives where you need them is "cheating" yawn. Don't you have some equipment to be spamming?
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1836	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:45:00 - [97] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: yawn. Don't you have some equipment to be spamming? Uae logic or your entire argument is totally invalid. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 888	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:46:00 - [98] - Quote Go away
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1836	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:14:00 - [99] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Go away Ha, ok then. So you cede this argument then? If you cannot justify why using this is dishonorable then really this is pointless butthurt. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2207	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:16:00 - [100] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat. We will never care. I am referring to the Gallente Research facility and equipment spam at the supply depot. After the game bogs down they spam grenades. Easy win. More and more corps are resorting to this tactic. Go ahead sully the battfield with your style of combat. We will be exiting these matches. You are not worth our bullets or our attention. These same corps get stomped in a fair fight so we will find them in other battles and make them suffer. If you received or receive this message its not a compliment. You've all seen us about and we fight to the end good or bad. This sort of engagement is beneath us and my Wolves have standing orders to RTB. It does us no good to train and compete in these theaters of war, so we won't. if this pleases you, you have earned it Resorting to using equipment? That's an understatement.... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 889	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:16:00 - [101] - Quote No one cares. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 183	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:20:00 - [102] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: what combat in the hallway? noone made it near the objective without grenade spam, if you're gonna lie make it believable lol. and everyone spits on your corp since you and your boys are known to be cookie cutter exploit abusers, nothing more, nothing less, everyone just expects a lot of cheating. Exploit abusers? Lol, as ******* if. What exploits have we abused, pray tell, and can you provide any specific examples? Your comments are both rabidly dogmatic (they're not us, must be literally satan, hurr durr) and insulting. Please curb your enthusiasm and try some critical thinking, please. Closed Beta Vet since July, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1843	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:31:00 - [103] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: No one cares. If that were true, would you have made this thread? Logic or GTFO. What you think makes you honorable means nothing. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 185	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:33:00 - [104] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Ensar Cael wrote: I get all kinds of lag in different matches, equipment spam or not. I just keep fighting through it or avoid the area of lag and let those that can get at the enemy. It can be a deciding factor, but not always. Seems to be a LOT of threads made by the BBW lately all crying about something or other reason why they lose matches. Could it be that they are just needing to work on their game plan a little more? I have noticed that they get stomped on a LOT! I noticed this too. When 1.7 dropped we lost a bit of cohesion. Everyone was out havin a blast messin with the new stuff. This was the focus of a recent corp meeting. You should see us doing well again soon. Also we fight primarily for Amar caldari. That is humbling. so the vacation is over and we are back to training. I've literally only ever seen you guys fighting for Minmatar and Gallente. I guess you got sick of losing, huh? Closed Beta Vet since July, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 890	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:37:00 - [105] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Ensar Cael wrote: I get all kinds of lag in different matches, equipment spam or not. I just keep fighting through it or avoid the area of lag and let those that can get at the enemy. It can be a deciding factor, but not always. Seems to be a LOT of threads made by the BBW lately all crying about something or other reason why they lose matches. Could it be that they are just needing to work on their game plan a little more? I have noticed that they get stomped on a LOT! I noticed this too. When 1.7 dropped we lost a bit of cohesion. Everyone was out havin a blast messin with the new stuff. This was the focus of a recent corp meeting. You should see us doing well again soon. Also we fight primarily for Amar caldari. That is humbling. so the vacation is over and we are back to training. I've literally only ever seen you guys fighting for Minmatar and Gallente. I guess you got sick of losing, huh? bullshit. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 892	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:39:00 - [106] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: No one cares. If that were true, would you have made this thread? Logic or GTFO. What you think makes you honorable means nothing. no one cares, what you are saying. Also you don't dictate what I believe. Your goading is not going to continue this argument. Get off my balls. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 185	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:45:00 - [107] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Ensar Cael wrote: I get all kinds of lag in different matches, equipment spam or not. I just keep fighting through it or avoid the area of lag and let those that can get at the enemy. It can be a deciding factor, but not always. Seems to be a LOT of threads made by the BBW lately all crying about something or other reason why they lose matches. Could it be that they are just needing to work on their game plan a little more? I have noticed that they get stomped on a LOT! I noticed this too. When 1.7 dropped we lost a bit of cohesion. Everyone was out havin a blast messin with the new stuff. This was the focus of a recent corp meeting. You should see us doing well again soon. Also we fight primarily for Amar caldari. That is humbling. so the vacation is over and we are back to training. I've literally only ever seen you guys fighting for Minmatar and Gallente. I guess you got sick of losing, huh? bullshit. Nope. I was running Amarr all day, and the only time I ever saw wolves was 8213's squad fighting for Minnies. And that was at least 2 matches today, and today isn't the first time. Maybe we're in different time zones or something, but the only time I see wolves is when they're fighting for Minmatar and Gallente. Closed Beta Vet since July, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1845	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:56:00 - [108] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: No one cares. If that were true, would you have made this thread? Logic or GTFO. What you think makes you honorable means nothing. no one cares, what you are saying. Also you don't dictate what I believe. Your goading is not going to continue this argument. Get off my balls. I don't care what you believe, I'd rather people know what you believe is wrong. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
abarkrishna WarRavens 192	Posted - 2013.12.19 03:58:00 - [109] - Quote The only time I see them is when they are on the forums calling everyone cheaters. I think they should spend time practicing tactics instead of crying. At this point anything OP says is laughable at best. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 895	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:02:00 - [110] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: The only time I see them is when they are on the forums calling everyone cheaters. I think they should spend time practicing tactics instead of crying. At this point anything OP says is laughable at best. come on. You know we poop on war ravens every time we see you. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.

abarkrishna WarRavens 192	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:04:00 - [111] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: abarkrishna wrote: The only time I see them is when they are on the forums calling everyone cheaters. I think they should spend time practicing tactics instead of crying. At this point anything OP says is laughable at best. come on. You know we poop on war ravens every time we see you. Your too busy calling everyone cheaters. There is no way you have time to actually fight. Why don't you tell me how many PC districts you own? Oh that's right you don't. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 896	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:09:00 - [112] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: abarkrishna wrote: The only time I see them is when they are on the forums calling everyone cheaters. I think they should spend time practicing tactics instead of crying. At this point anything OP says is laughable at best. come on. You know we poop on war ravens every time we see you. Your too busy calling everyone cheaters. There is no way you have time to actually fight. find me a place where I said cheat. Every one who is in question came here of their own free will. Why are you here now? Is there a place we cud settle this? Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
abarkrishna WarRavens 194	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:26:00 - [113] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that ** no more either. Above is an accusation with absolutely no truth. Lag switching does not work in Dust. Here is another example. Pay very close attention to the bold and italicized letters. Darken-Sol wrote: The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat.** We will never care. Snip. How do your own words taste? All you are doing is perpetuating the idea that your corp is a joke. Reading comprehension. Get better at it. Why am I here you ask? Because your so terrible I came to troll you and make you feel stupid. Is it working yet? No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1854	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:26:00 - [114] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: find me a place where I said cheat. Darken-Sol wrote: abusing exploits, lag-switching, et al Don't you dare start lying while talking about honor. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 896	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:28:00 - [115] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: find me a place where I said cheat. Darken-Sol wrote: abusing exploits, lag-switching, et al Don't you dare start lying while talking about honor. looks edited. I don't even know what et al means. This is the best you can do. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Orca Amsel Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 641	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:31:00 - [116] - Quote Man this thread is great. Please continue with the tears.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 897	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:31:00 - [117] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that ** no more either. Above is an accusation with absolutely no truth. Lag switching does not work in Dust. Here is another example. Pay very close attention to the bold and italicized letters. Darken-Sol wrote: The wolves are done fighting dishonorable opponents. Go ahead cheat.** We will never care. Snip. How do your own words taste? All you are doing is perpetuating the idea that your corp is a joke. Reading comprehension. Get better at it. Why am I here you ask? Because your so terrible I came to troll you and make you feel stupid. Is it working yet? got me. This is me calling some one a cheater? It kind of seems like I implied that we wouldn't care if you chose to cheat. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 475	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:35:00 - [118] - Quote wow this thread is still going? lol lets shut up and fight already.... lets have a corp battle big bad babys VS subdreddit
abarkrishna WarRavens 195	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:36:00 - [119] - Quote If you didn't care you would not be on the forums crying about it. See why everyone thinks your a joke yet? No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 897	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:37:00 - [120] - Quote At this point I am just getting likes on my OP and you are just bumping me. Is there another goal you have here beyond trolling? Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.

abarkrishna WarRavens 196	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:38:00 - [121] - Quote Nope I am happy knowing people get to see how stupid you are. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Mithridates Vl Imperfects Public Relations 132	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:41:00 - [122] - Quote And oh god, do we get to see that!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 897	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:45:00 - [123] - Quote Mithridates Vl wrote: And oh god, do we get to see that! hi Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 898	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:51:00 - [124] - Quote We are 138 wrote: wow this thread is still going? lol lets shut up and fight already.... lets have a corp battle big bad babys VS subdreddit I like this guy. Sounds good lets do it. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
abarkrishna WarRavens 196	Posted - 2013.12.19 04:53:00 - [125] - Quote I'm in. I would love to shove my mass driver in your poo hole again No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2821	Posted - 2013.12.19 05:25:00 - [126] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Saying using lots of uplinks of domination is cheating is just wrong. That's how you play the gorram mode. In most modes the game is decided by who has the better spawns, and more uplinks gives your team better options and makes it much harder to push be pushed out of an objective. It's just basic logic for people to have a good number of uplinks and hives in an area you are defending. And accusing people of lying and cheating because you lost is a hell of a lot more dishonorable than using the equipment that's in the game the way it's meant to be used. it is an exploit currently. My corp is logi heavy. We use uplinks and hives too. No hives need to be by a supply depot. What is happening and what you are defending is a frame rate drop caused by spamming equipment. This must be the meta you all take so much pride in. we can tell when its getting to be to much equipment on the field. At this point you can employ reppers and use up the links. Not hard, it sounds like you are one of the guys that continues to contribute to an overall broken mechanic. That's your choice, what will you do when and if they gimp your signature move? I know it won't hurt us one bit. _____so_meta______________ ________________such honor_ very_serious________________ _____________wow__________
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1867	Posted - 2013.12.19 05:39:00 - [127] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: find me a place where I said cheat. Darken-Sol wrote: abusing exploits, lag-switching, et al Don't you dare start lying while talking about honor. looks edited. I don't even know what et al means. This is the best you can do. et al = and all else. It's in books. And of course it's edited. you know all those times you all but outright stated using equipment was an exploit? yeah, I was pointing out you were calling people out for that. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 899	Posted - 2013.12.19 05:45:00 - [128] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: find me a place where I said cheat. Darken-Sol wrote: abusing exploits, lag-switching, et al Don't you dare start lying while talking about honor. looks edited. I don't even know what et al means. This is the best you can do. et al = and all else. It's in books. And of course it's edited. you know all those times you all but outright stated using equipment was an exploit? yeah, I was pointing out you were calling people out for that. I thought we were done talking. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
NOAMIzzzzz BIG BAD W0LVES 76	Posted - 2013.12.19 05:48:00 - [129] - Quote Lol i'd wreck them
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1867	Posted - 2013.12.19 05:54:00 - [130] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: I thought we were done talking. Did you really think it would be that easy? Your honor is not based in any thing real, or even an interesting philosophy. Use a logical argument or else I'm going to keep having my fun. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 899	Posted - 2013.12.19 05:54:00 - [131] - Quote NOAMIzzzzz wrote: Lol i'd wreck them its not hard. If only they knew how many times we let them out of the redline. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 899	Posted - 2013.12.19 05:56:00 - [132] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I thought we were done talking. Did you really think it would be that easy? Your honor is not based in any thing real, or even an interesting philosophy. Use a logical argument or else I'm going to keep having my fun. have your fun, use a towel tho. You know how mad your mom gets when your laundry is stuck together. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1869	Posted - 2013.12.19 06:55:00 - [133] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: NOAMIzzzzz wrote: Lol i'd wreck them its not hard. If only they knew how many times we let them out of the redline. lol circle-jerk Darken-Sol wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I thought we were done talking. Did you really think it would be that easy? Your honor is not based in any thing real, or even an interesting philosophy. Use a logical argument or else I'm going to keep having my fun. have your fun, use a towel tho. You know how mad your mom gets when your laundry is stuck together. lol ad hominem (personal attack not related to the discussion, FYI) Can you seriously name an actual grievance and back it up with any actual argument? Your claims about other corps and their tactics are without merit, you behave without honor - you claimed to not accuse other people of cheating after just saying they were abusing mechanics and intentionally causing lag, then resorting to baseless personal attacks. While I have been having a grand time with this thread, I don't think it can go much further without CCP shutting it down. If you can actually use a rational line of thought on how using uplinks and hives on important areas is an exploit or in any way cheating, I'd be happy to discuss it. In any case, I hope you enjoy having made a fool of yourselves on the forums for everyone to see. You've earned it. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 901	Posted - 2013.12.19 07:15:00 - [134] - Quote Are we gonna fight or what? We want to record it. Place all the strategic uplinks you want. Were gonna murder you. Unless you resort to the spam tactic you so adamantly defend. That will prove my point any way. So the time for talking is done. Put up or shut up. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 475	Posted - 2013.12.19 07:58:00 - [135] - Quote its up to the powers that be to set up a fight. what are your preferred play times? Seeing as how this game does not have much meat to it corp fights should be a thing that is used more often.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 903	Posted - 2013.12.19 08:04:00 - [136] - Quote We are 138 wrote: its up to the powers that be to set up a fight. what are your preferred play times? Seeing as how this game does not have much meat to it corp fights should be a thing that is used more often. nights are better. I'd say after the holiday tho, I never know when my guys are gonna be on regularly. If you can't wait, I'm sure I can throw a few squads together whenev. I wasn't jokin man. I respect a man of action. Your buddies talk to much. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
prometheus actual Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 61	Posted - 2013.12.19 08:15:00 - [137] - Quote what?! all of this over a pup Match? and Darken-Sol did you really say "1v1 me bro!"? mandatory post.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 903	Posted - 2013.12.19 08:27:00 - [138] - Quote All of this came after a pub match. Its all here if you want to read it. Check edits tho, some has changed. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 904	Posted - 2013.12.19 08:35:00 - [139] - Quote prometheus actual wrote: what?! all of this over a pup Match? and Darken-Sol did you really say "1v1 me bro!"? mandatory post. yes. No, but I'll 1v1, if I have to. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 476	Posted - 2013.12.19 09:25:00 - [140] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: We are 138 wrote: its up to the powers that be to set up a fight. what are your preferred play times? Seeing as how this game does not have much meat to it corp fights should be a thing that is used more often. nights are better. I'd say after the holiday tho, I never know when my guys are gonna be on regularly. If you can't wait, I'm sure I can throw a few squads together whenev. I wasn't jokin man. I respect a man of action. Your buddies talk to much. I'm an off shift worker so I'm on early or very late on my days off. After the holidays works for me but if I see you in the wild we should duel.

Long Evity 806	Posted - 2013.12.19 09:32:00 - [141] - Quote If it makes anyone feel better... I'd wreck both WOLVES and Sub. You'd need to break the game more to stop my rampage with my HMG buff. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 905	Posted - 2013.12.19 09:40:00 - [142] - Quote We are 138 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: We are 138 wrote: its up to the powers that be to set up a fight. what are your preferred play times? Seeing as how this game does not have much meat to it corp fights should be a thing that is used more often. nights are better. I'd say after the holiday tho, I never know when my guys are gonna be on regularly. If you can't wait, I'm sure I can throw a few squads together whenev. I wasn't jokin man. I respect a man of action. Your buddies talk to much. I'm an off shift worker so I'm on early or very late on my days off. After the holidays works for me but if I see you in the wild we should duel. fuckyeah. Count on it. Pistols at dawn? Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2824	Posted - 2013.12.19 11:00:00 - [143] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Are we gonna fight or what? We want to record it. Place all the strategic uplinks you want. Were gonna murder you. Unless you resort to the spam tactic you so adamantly defend. That will prove my point any way. So the time for talking is done. Put up or shut up. What point is it that this would supposedly "prove" exactly? Just asking for the sake of clarity.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2214	Posted - 2013.12.19 11:44:00 - [144] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: abarkrishna wrote: The only time I see them is when they are on the forums calling everyone cheaters. I think they should spend time practicing tactics instead of crying. At this point anything OP says is laughable at best. come on. You know we poop on war ravens every time we see you. You must have a lot of confidence. I'd like to ~~see~~ beat you guys in a PC.... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 298	Posted - 2013.12.19 12:11:00 - [145] - Quote The wolves seem very fond of tanks... good thing primes missile tamks tracking speed is slow as dicks so my scout is usually unmolested Tickle my null-sack weapons guy. Teabagging the universe one merc at a time
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1012	Posted - 2013.12.20 04:37:00 - [146] - Quote noob cavman wrote: The wolves seem very fond of tanks... good thing primes missile tamks tracking speed is slow as dicks so my scout is usually unmolested hmmmmmm. too bad they can only take 2 shots from a PC rail tank. If this goes down, count me in. I would love to show the wolves just how strong their militia tanks are. So about those vehicle locks...
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 934	Posted - 2013.12.20 04:45:00 - [147] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: noob cavman wrote: The wolves seem very fond of tanks... good thing primes missile tamks tracking speed is slow as dicks so my scout is usually unmolested hmmmmmm. too bad they can only take 2 shots from a PC rail tank. If this goes down, count me in. I would love to show the wolves just how strong their militia tanks are. tough talk. You got decent skill but your tanks usually explode runnin for the redline. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 934	Posted - 2013.12.20 04:47:00 - [148] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: noob cavman wrote: The wolves seem very fond of tanks... good thing primes missile tamks tracking speed is slow as dicks so my scout is usually unmolested hmmmmmm. too bad they can only take 2 shots from a PC rail tank. If this goes down, count me in. I would love to show the wolves just how strong their militia tanks are. pegs on a crusade right now to get militia tanks nerfed. Never heard of you. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
abarkrishna WarRavens 212	Posted - 2013.12.20 05:21:00 - [149] - Quote Your corp should really stop sending hate mail to people who are clearly better than them. Just got mail from 2 of your corpmates calling me a scrub. You guys are a joke. Good luck ever getting a district after this ****. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 934	Posted - 2013.12.20 06:14:00 - [150] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: Your corp should really stop sending hate mail to people who are clearly better than them. Just got mail from 2 of your corpmates calling me a scrub. You guys are a joke. Good luck ever getting a district after this **. who said anything about getting districts. How about you get a corp and then you can tell them what to do. I don't give a ** if they send you your mothers head in a box Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.

abarkrishna WarRavens 213	Posted - 2013.12.20 06:50:00 - [151] - Quote I am offering a bounty to all who make these scrubs leave battle. 20 million if they leave 15 million if you proto stomp them. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2226	Posted - 2013.12.20 06:51:00 - [152] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: I am offering a bounty to all who make these scrubs leave battle. 20 million if they leave 15 million if you proto stomp them. 15 mil for Protostomping them?? 8213 will be bringing a whole new kind of QQ to the forums once they get a beating from my squad When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
abarkrishna WarRavens 213	Posted - 2013.12.20 07:08:00 - [153] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: abarkrishna wrote: I am offering a bounty to all who make these scrubs leave battle. 20 million if they leave 15 million if you proto stomp them. 15 mil for Protostomping them?? 8213 will be bringing a whole new kind of QQ to the forums once they get a beating from my squad That is my goal. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1145	Posted - 2013.12.20 07:31:00 - [154] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: abarkrishna wrote: I am offering a bounty to all who make these scrubs leave battle. 20 million if they leave 15 million if you proto stomp them. 15 mil for Protostomping them?? 8213 will be bringing a whole new kind of QQ to the forums once they get a beating from my squad Really? Pretty sure I was playing for Caldari FW and was on a winning streak doing it tonight. (bought me 25 State CK.0 Assault Suits ) Even made the almighty Alldin Kan back out of a match (but then again, when doesn't he?), When he had AE, 0.H, and DDBs on his team. You bring your squad, and you bring your black suits. I'll do the same Lets see who backs out then. Or, lets see who switches to cheap fits because they are still getting annihilated by my black suits. And as far as calling anyone a scrub. I called the War Raven a scrub because: 1. He's a War raven (lol, jk) 2. He barely won a gunfight against me in my Basic Scout suit with a 7-shot ScP... But he still lost the match by a landslide... As an individual, I get called out all the time on these forums. Perhaps I open myself up to it, that's fair, but eventually they all go away because they get spanked like little brats. Nyain San kids, wannabe snipers, soon subreddit, etc... I've already owned your crew in many matches without my black suit. Don't test me or my corp.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2229	Posted - 2013.12.20 17:33:00 - [155] - Quote 8213 wrote: Really? Pretty sure I was playing for Caldari FW and was on a winning streak doing it tonight. (bought me 25 State CK.0 Assault Suits ) Even made the almighty Alldin Kan back out of a match (but then again, when doesn't he?), When he had AE, 0.H, and DDBs on his team. You bring your squad, and you bring your black suits. I'll do the same Lets see who backs out then. Or, lets see who switches to cheap fits because they are still getting annihilated by my black suits. And as far as calling anyone a scrub. I called the War Raven a scrub because: 1. He's a War raven (lol, jk) 2. He barely won a gunfight against me in my Basic Scout suit with a 7-shot ScP... But he still lost the match by a landslide... As an individual, I get called out all the time on these forums. Perhaps I open myself up to it, that's fair, but eventually they all go away because they get spanked like little brats. Nyain San kids, wannabe snipers, soon subreddit, etc... I've already owned your crew in many matches without my black suit. Don't test me or my corp. lul I doubt all of this, but I'm sure you don't care When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 944	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:20:00 - [156] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: 8213 wrote: Really? Pretty sure I was playing for Caldari FW and was on a winning streak doing it tonight. (bought me 25 State CK.0 Assault Suits ) Even made the almighty Alldin Kan back out of a match (but then again, when doesn't he?), When he had AE, 0.H, and DDBs on his team. You bring your squad, and you bring your black suits. I'll do the same Lets see who backs out then. Or, lets see who switches to cheap fits because they are still getting annihilated by my black suits. And as far as calling anyone a scrub. I called the War Raven a scrub because: 1. He's a War raven (lol, jk) 2. He barely won a gunfight against me in my Basic Scout suit with a 7-shot ScP... But he still lost the match by a landslide... As an individual, I get called out all the time on these forums. Perhaps I open myself up to it, that's fair, but eventually they all go away because they get spanked like little brats. Nyain San kids, wannabe snipers, soon subreddit, etc... I've already owned your crew in many matches without my black suit. Don't test me or my corp. lul I doubt all of this, but I'm sure you don't care who are you guys? I barely see you around. Actually I've seen you more on the forums then in match. what do you have against the wolves? I mean really. If you got hate mail or something,lol. Are you some ones alt? I think its cute we have fans. Why do you feel the need to come here and spout trash. Ken kaniff can have a grudge because we break his toys. But who the hell are the rest of you. Have you been saving this up? Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 944	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:29:00 - [157] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: I am offering a bounty to all who make these scrubs leave battle. 20 million if they leave 15 million if you proto stomp them. you should give moitanni Japan 15 mil. I doubt you will because your all talk. They did a thorough job of protostomping this morning while I was out testing some scout fits. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1463	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:29:00 - [158] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: noob cavman wrote: The wolves seem very fond of tanks... good thing primes missile tamks tracking speed is slow as dicks so my scout is usually unmolested hmmmmmm. too bad they can only take 2 shots from a PC rail tank. If this goes down, count me in. I would love to show the wolves just how strong their militia tanks are. dude iv been tanking in dust longer than you have been playing this game so jog on with your ***** redline rail lol ill still 2 shot you with my front line rail build, go on ask many of the other vet tankers what happens when you underestimate my rail.... Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 621	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:32:00 - [159] - Quote All of this hate for other people...because of a video game. I just dont get it. Im a logi who loves to heal people. When i finish the match and i see that i have a very high score im very happy because i know i did my job. A logi does not need to score a single kill because that is not his job. I hop on the forums and behold. Every other guy is hating on us and cursing us off because we should not be allowed to have a high score unless we get kills? That is not what support is about. And i went off topic. What i meant to say is this. We can play however we want to play. this stuff isnt even real. If some one wants to camp they can camp. if you want to rush you can rush. All you people out there saying. i dont camp because its nooby or * explosives take no skill* really? YOUR PRESSING BUTTONS ON A STUPID CONTROLLER! Being good at a video game is like saying your good at drooling. I love video games but when i see threads like this it makes me question why i play multiplayer.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1672	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:35:00 - [160] - Quote The smallest dogs barks the loudest It's all about compensation Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 143	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:43:00 - [161] - Quote Having fought with and against them, the Subdreddit guys are honorable, and I don't get the QQ about equipment spam. It's been a part of the game since day one, virtually, and if you can't beat it stop crying like a little girl and do it yourself or figure out a way to win despite it.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 944	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:46:00 - [162] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: All of this hate for other people...because of a video game. I just dont get it. Im a logi who loves to heal people. When i finish the match and i see that i have a very high score im very happy because i know i did my job. A logi does not need to score a single kill because that is not his job. I hop on the forums and behold. Every other guy is hating on us and cursing us off because we should not be allowed to have a high score unless we get kills? That is not what support is about. And i went off topic. What i meant to say is this. We can play however we want to play. this stuff isnt even real. If some one wants to camp they can camp. if you want to rush you can rush. All you people out there saying. i dont camp because its nooby or * explosives take no skill* really? YOUR PRESSING BUTTONS ON A STUPID CONTROLLER! Being good at a video game is like saying your good at drooling. I love video games but when i see threads like this it makes me question why i play multiplayer. a decent logi takes care of his team. The original thread was to raise awareness about an exploit. If people could read and put two and two together it might have accomplished something. The masses make it a few posts in and have some hairbrained thought they need to post. if you have any doubt about this exploit or its use. Take your squad and make up a bunch of uplink and hive fits. it would work either way, but you should hack the letter. Spam equipment until the frame rate drops below playable levels. Now no one can hack because they will never make it thru the grenade spam. try it then come back here and tell me about being a good logi because you missed the entire point of his thread. the last few pages are people defending this tactic and dodging a fight. And one warraven pretending he is relevant. Don't know what these FA guys are on about but I'm sure they will be back with more of their stories. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 621	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:47:00 - [163] - Quote Why do people keep using the word honor for video games? When i think of honor i think of a soldier or a police officer. Some one who actually has and deserves honor. not some guys sitting in his house hitting buttons on a controller. If you want to be an honorable person well then do something thats worth honoring. Playing video games isnt one of them.
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1014	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:47:00 - [164] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: noob cavman wrote: The wolves seem very fond of tanks... good thing primes missile tamks tracking speed is slow as dicks so my scout is usually unmolested hmmmmmm. too bad they can only take 2 shots from a PC rail tank. If this goes down, count me in. I would love to show the wolves just how strong their militia tanks are. pegs on a crusade right now to get militia tanks nerfed. Never heard of you. Why is it always that Big Bad Wolves are talking all this smack and hating on other corps and play styles? Every single time I have played against BBW I receive hatemail for whatever I did or a squad mate did. Do you guys have something to prove or am I missing something here? Maybe, from now on, everyone should pull out the cheese when playing BBW. Make sure to lag them out, spam tanks, use officer gear, or use the known exploits. Then their hatemail might be justified to some degree. So about those vehicle locks...
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 621	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:49:00 - [165] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: All of this hate for other people...because of a video game. I just dont get it. Im a logi who loves to heal people. When i finish the match and i see that i have a very high score im very happy because i know i did my job. A logi does not need to score a single kill because that is not his job. I hop on the forums and behold. Every other guy is hating on us and cursing us off because we should not be allowed to have a high score unless we get kills? That is not what support is about. And i went off topic. What i meant to say is this. We can play however we want to play. this stuff isnt even real. If some one wants to camp they can camp. if you want to rush you can rush. All you people out there saying. i dont camp because its nooby or * explosives take no skill* really? YOUR PRESSING BUTTONS ON A STUPID CONTROLLER! Being good at a video game is like saying your good at drooling. I love video games but when i see threads like this it makes me question why i play multiplayer. a decent logi takes care of his team. The original thread was to raise awareness about an exploit. If people could read and put two and two together it might have accomplished something. The masses make it a few posts in and have some hairbrained thought they need to post. if you have any doubt about this exploit or its use. Take your squad and make up a bunch of uplink and hive fits. it would work either way, but you should hack the letter. Spam equipment until the frame rate drops below playable levels. Now no one can hack because they will never make it thru the grenade spam. try it then come back here and tell me about being a good logi because you missed the entire point of his thread. the last few pages are people defending this tactic and dodging a fight. And one warraven pretending he is relevant. Don't know what these FA guys are on about but I'm sure they will be back with more of their stories. Well then my apologies. But at the same time exploit or not this is just a game. I think it would have been better for you to put this in the bugs section.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 944	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:50:00 - [166] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Why do people keep using the word honor for video games? When i think of honor i think of a soldier or a police officer. Some one who actually has and deserves honor. not some guys sitting in his house hitting buttons on a controller. If you want to be an honorable person well then do something thats worth honoring. Playing video games isnt one of them. honor exists every where. Its why you don't steal or ****. Anonymity allows us to be good or evil with no consequences. People take advantage of that. Its why a fat slob on a couch can be your hero here. Its all about role playing and immersion. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 944	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:53:00 - [167] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Having fought with and against them, the Subdreddit guys are honorable, and I don't get the QQ about equipment spam. It's been a part of the game since day one, virtually, and if you can't beat it stop crying like a little girl and do it yourself or figure out a way to win despite it. lol molon labe iwas here when u ware PRO, I don't think they ever washes off. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 132	Posted - 2013.12.20 18:58:00 - [168] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Go away Ha, ok then. So you cede this argument then? If you cannot justify why using this is dishonorable then really this is pointless butthurt. It's "dishonorable" (a word with a flimsy definition) because most EQ spam being utilized currently is not for your reasons. IE making it easier for your team to hold an area. MOST Equipment spam is done for the sole intent and purpose of causing lag for the opposing team. Therefore making them easier to kill than a blind kid with no thumbs. This is abundantly obvious when you see what must be thirty uplinks, and a similar number of nanohives, in immediate vicinty to a supply depot. It could be argued that those links and nanos are just for ensuring you have a presence in the area. I however don't believe that the people who are doing this are unaware of the lag it causes.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 622	Posted - 2013.12.20 19:00:00 - [169] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Why do people keep using the word honor for video games? When i think of honor i think of a soldier or a police officer. Some one who actually has and deserves honor. not some guys sitting in his house hitting buttons on a controller. If you want to be an honorable person well then do something thats worth honoring. Playing video games isnt one of them. honor exists every where. Its why you don't steal or ****. Anonymity allows us to be good or evil with no consequences. People take advantage of that. Its why a fat slob on a couch can be your hero here. Its all about role playing and immersion. I apologize but i just dont get it. I really dont. You guys are getting this serious....over something that isnt even real? When i was a boy i used to have this thing that people should play games a certain way and that if they didnt they should not play video games. when i finally hit my 18th birthday i understood how much a fool i was. people in this world are killing each other over food and water....and im sitting here raging at people on how they should play a game. Do you see how insane that is?
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 944	Posted - 2013.12.20 19:43:00 - [170] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Why do people keep using the word honor for video games? When i think of honor i think of a soldier or a police officer. Some one who actually has and deserves honor. not some guys sitting in his house hitting buttons on a controller. If you want to be an honorable person well then do something thats worth honoring. Playing video games isnt one of them. honor exists every where. Its why you don't steal or ****. Anonymity allows us to be good or evil with no consequences. People take advantage of that. Its why a fat slob on a couch can be your hero here. Its all about role playing and immersion. I apologize but i just dont get it. I really dont. You guys are getting this serious....over something that isnt even real? When i was a boy i used to have this thing that people should play games a certain way and that if they didnt they should not play video games. when i finally hit my 18th birthday i understood how much a fool i was. people in this world are killing each other over food and water....and im sitting here raging at people on how they should play a game. Do you see how insane that is? when I was in jail, there was this guy that was awesome at chess. We played for trays(our food). We didn't need to we could have eaten our own food and been fine. Sometimes life sucks and you need to get away. In jail you can't so you have to make it more interesting. Gambling is as old as society. For these things to function you have to follow a code and honor the rules. I seen some one get his cheek caved in for cheating. do you think it was about a game of chess or a lack of honor or just food? concepts overlap. I try do the right thing whenever I can. Sometimes I just say f this and resort to my primal nature. But the darken you see here and the darken people in real life see aren't to different. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.

Outlaw OneZero Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1126	Posted - 2013.12.20 19:44:00 - [171] - Quote This is outrageous, you must share with me the names of the Mercs responsible for this. I will deal with this immediately. I'm absolutely sure I haven't paid them a bonus for harvesting so many tears and I need to rectify that situation as quickly as possible.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1672	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:05:00 - [172] - Quote Check me out on the battlefield, I'm a Tactical Equipment Spammer (in other words; a Logi). I provide people with stuff. That's what I do. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1672	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:06:00 - [173] - Quote Don't let anyone tell you HOW to play. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 341	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:25:00 - [174] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: This thread isn't made for calling these people out. We all know who these losers are. It is an attempt to explain why you see wolves disengaging from battle. We work closely with alot of smaller corps we are not leaving you to die. We are setting an example. There is honor and courage in new Eden, you have friends. Let's talk tonight sol. Strength in numbers brother.. CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 945	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:27:00 - [175] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Don't let anyone tell you HOW to play. I don't. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 144	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:39:00 - [176] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Having fought with and against them, the Subdreddit guys are honorable, and I don't get the QQ about equipment spam. It's been a part of the game since day one, virtually, and if you can't beat it stop crying like a little girl and do it yourself or figure out a way to win despite it. lol molon labe iwas here when u ware PRO, I don't think they ever washes off. If you say so. Continue to QQ then -- that's been working out wonderfully for you thusfar. Take care....Leadfoot
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 945	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:51:00 - [177] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Having fought with and against them, the Subdreddit guys are honorable, and I don't get the QQ about equipment spam. It's been a part of the game since day one, virtually, and if you can't beat it stop crying like a little girl and do it yourself or figure out a way to win despite it. lol molon labe iwas here when u ware PRO, I don't think they ever washes off. If you say so. Continue to QQ then -- that's been working out wonderfully for you thusfar. Take care....Leadfoot I like your sign off. I always say take care instead of goodbyes. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2233	Posted - 2013.12.20 21:18:00 - [178] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: who are you guys? I barely see you around. Actually I've seen you more on the forums then in match. what do you have against the wolves? I mean really. If you got hate mail or something,lol. Are you some ones alt? I think its cute we have fans. Why do you feel the need to come here and spout trash. Ken kaniff can have a grudge because we break his toys. But who the hell are the rest of you. Have you been saving this up? I think it's cute that you make fun of us because you've never seen us. There are small corps out there...quantity > quality... What I have against the Wolves is you and 8213. Come to the forums bragging, making stupid posts, etc. Keep the e-peen stroking to yourself, ok? I come here and spout trash, but you fail to mention that every one of your posts in this thread are trash. How many districts do you guys have? Oh, wait..... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2233	Posted - 2013.12.20 21:19:00 - [179] - Quote Anarchide wrote: The smallest dogs barks the loudest It's all about compensation This is true. My 2 foot long dog barks louder than my neighbors Rottweiler.... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 945	Posted - 2013.12.20 21:42:00 - [180] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: who are you guys? I barely see you around. Actually I've seen you more on the forums then in match. what do you have against the wolves? I mean really. If you got hate mail or something,lol. Are you some ones alt? I think its cute we have fans. Why do you feel the need to come here and spout trash. Ken kaniff can have a grudge because we break his toys. But who the hell are the rest of you. Have you been saving this up? I think it's cute that you make fun of us because you've never seen us. There are small corps out there...quantity > quality... What I have against the Wolves is you and 8213. Come to the forums bragging, making stupid posts, etc. Keep the e-peen stroking to yourself, ok? I come here and spout trash, but you fail to mention that every one of your posts in this thread are trash. How many districts do you guys have? Oh, wait..... did you earn or buy? The wolves won't pay for a district. Ever. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.

KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1018	Posted - 2013.12.20 23:33:00 - [181] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: who are you guys? I barely see you around. Actually I've seen you more on the forums then in match. what do you have against the wolves? I mean really. If you got hate mail or something,lol. Are you some ones alt? I think its cute we have fans. Why do you feel the need to come here and spout trash. Ken kaniff can have a grudge because we break his toys. But who the hell are the rest of you. Have you been saving this up? I think it's cute that you make fun of us because you've never seen us. There are small corps out there...quantity > quality... What I have against the Wolves is you and 8213. Come to the forums bragging, making stupid posts, etc. Keep the e-peen stroking to yourself, ok? I come here and spout trash, but you fail to mention that every one of your posts in this thread are trash. How many districts do you guys have? Oh, wait..... did you earn or buy? The wolves won't pay for a district. Ever. Well, I mean we have been a bit busy lately. You know, doing things here and there. Scrubs like us are a bit busy being carried by other corps. Heaven forbid we would have to stand up for ourselves. So about those vehicle locks...
Outlaw OneZero Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1133	Posted - 2013.12.20 23:53:00 - [182] - Quote My favorite part about all this is he where he confesses that he lost to subdreddit (everyone knows we're just scrubs) and needs to cover it up by calling us cheaters. There are usually some other blues on our team, whats to say they didn't spam the supply depot? I don't usually waste my equipment in there, it doesn't help my team any or even earn me any WP. The objective on the other hand, you are damn right I spam the **** out of that room with all the equipment I can find. It gives my team the best chance to survive and win. I don't even consider lag, that's not the point or even my problem. If the reds have the objective, I fully expect them to spam the room with their equipment and I will be prepared to clear it out. Oh you might want to look into flux grenades, I hear they clear equipment spam pretty quickly.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 947	Posted - 2013.12.20 23:53:00 - [183] - Quote We have tried holding the supply depot on that map. It kept the spam down considerably. Its kind of fun just fighting to clone out your opponent. We had originally tried to destroy it but those blueberries need their 50pts. I'll see if I can get Jams to post a link to the video. This phone is all but useless for that sort of thing. great fight Killington. She was out representin for pradox. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2235	Posted - 2013.12.21 00:22:00 - [184] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: did you earn or buy? The wolves won't pay for a district. Ever. I take this to mean that you don't have the skilled players to be in PC....because Militia Tanks don't cut it these days.... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 949	Posted - 2013.12.21 00:38:00 - [185] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: did you earn or buy? The wolves won't pay for a district. Ever. I take this to mean that you don't have the skilled players to be in PC....because Militia Tanks don't cut it these days.... its no big secret that most of my guys are casual players. We will check out PC when we can take and hold a district. I have no pressing need to put that kind of strain on myself or my corp. I see plenty of corps go to PC, get owned, and disband. We will still be around long after your corp gets dismantled. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2235	Posted - 2013.12.21 00:43:00 - [186] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: did you earn or buy? The wolves won't pay for a district. Ever. I take this to mean that you don't have the skilled players to be in PC....because Militia Tanks don't cut it these days.... its no big secret that most of my guys are casual players. We will check out PC when we can take and hold a district. I have no pressing need to put that kind of strain on myself or my corp. I see plenty of corps go to PC, get owned, and disband. We will still be around long after your corp gets dismantled. That obviously wasn't my point. You're dodging around what I'm saying. Trash talking a corp when you couldn't even hold your own? Mr. "I'm such a badass I'm awesome don't **** with me" or should I say 8213 has been trash talking as much as you too.....this is a corp I'm surprised anyone would join, it seems you guys trash talk without having much skill to back it up... Why isn't this in the War Room? When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2235	Posted - 2013.12.21 00:44:00 - [187] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: noob cavman wrote: The wolves seem very fond of tanks... good thing primes missile tamks tracking speed is slow as dicks so my scout is usually unmolested hmmmmmm. too bad they can only take 2 shots from a PC rail tank. If this goes down, count me in. I would love to show the wolves just how strong their militia tanks are. dude iv been tanking in dust longer than you have been playing this game so jog on with your ***** redline rail lol ill still 2 shot you with my front line rail build, go on ask many of the other vet tankers what happens when you underestimate my rail.... You mean your Sica with 2 damage mods and a Militia Railgun? When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 950	Posted - 2013.12.21 00:51:00 - [188] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: pegasis prime wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: noob cavman wrote: The wolves seem very fond of tanks... good thing primes missile tamks tracking speed is slow as dicks so my scout is usually unmolested hmmmmmm. too bad they can only take 2 shots from a PC rail tank. If this goes down, count me in. I would love to show the wolves just how strong their militia tanks are. dude iv been tanking in dust longer than you have been playing this game so jog on with your ***** redline rail lol ill still 2 shot you with my front line rail build, go on ask many of the other vet tankers what happens when you underestimate my rail.... You mean your Sica with 2 damage mods and a Militia Railgun? You are just spouting nonsense. Peg is a beast tanker. Ask around. Unlike you, people have heard of him. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2235	Posted - 2013.12.21 00:54:00 - [189] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: You are just spouting nonsense. Peg is a beast tanker. Ask around. Unlike you, people have heard of him. You think I care if people have heard about me? I have no clue who "Peg" is, and until he can give me something to remember I'll never know who he is. Now everyone move along, nothing to see here except Wolves stroking their e-peen.... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 950	Posted - 2013.12.21 00:57:00 - [190] - Quote Why do you care if 8213 talks trash?It is all you have been doing here. You are a hypocrite and a troll. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.

Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2239	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:20:00 - [191] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Why do you care if 8213 talks trash?It is all you have been doing here. You are a hypocrite and a troll. That's all you've been doing either.....that's why this thread should be in the War Room, because all that's going on here is trash talk.... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 971	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:25:00 - [192] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Why do you care if 8213 talks trash?It is all you have been doing here. You are a hypocrite and a troll. That's all you've been doing either.....that's why this thread should be in the War Room, because all that's going on here is trash talk.... I keep trying to get it back on track. Read more than the last comment and you will see its just a bunch of trolls draggin it back to the gutter. If you quit posting I think we could have a decent conversation here. the original post was something way different than this has become. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2239	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:28:00 - [193] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Why do you care if 8213 talks trash?It is all you have been doing here. You are a hypocrite and a troll. That's all you've been doing either.....that's why this thread should be in the War Room, because all that's going on here is trash talk.... I keep trying to get it back on track. Read more than the last comment and you will see its just a bunch of trolls draggin it back to the gutter. If you quit posting I think we could have a decent conversation here. the original post was something way different than this has become. Fine. Back on topic, you were QQing about equipment spam. Everyone uses it, and you would too if you were trying to win. There's no problem with using it, it's just that CCP can't fix it so that it causes less lag/framerate drops. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 972	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:34:00 - [194] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Why do you care if 8213 talks trash?It is all you have been doing here. You are a hypocrite and a troll. That's all you've been doing either.....that's why this thread should be in the War Room, because all that's going on here is trash talk.... I keep trying to get it back on track. Read more than the last comment and you will see its just a bunch of trolls draggin it back to the gutter. If you quit posting I think we could have a decent conversation here. the original post was something way different than this has become. Fine. Back on topic, you were QQing about equipment spam. Everyone uses it, and you would too if you were trying to win. There's no problem with using it, it's just that CCP can't fix it so that it causes less lag/framerate drops. but we can. If we take or destroy that supply depot the spam stops and people can actually have a decent fight. This has worked a couple times now. My logis are equiping tools instead of hives. There is alot of stuff that can be done ourselves to improve the quality of this game. This is our free time, why spend it dealing with excruciating exploits? Do you really enjoy frame rate drop? Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2241	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:35:00 - [195] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: but we can. If we take or destroy that supply depot the spam stops and people can actually have a decent fight. This has worked a couple times now. My logis are equiping tools instead of hives. There is alot of stuff that can be done ourselves to improve the quality of this game. This is our free time, why spend it dealing with excruciating exploits? Do you really enjoy frame rate drop? Nope, but I like winning, and will do whatever it takes to win. Although there have been FW matches where I've gotten more lag than in a PC match.... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 972	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:42:00 - [196] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: but we can. If we take or destroy that supply depot the spam stops and people can actually have a decent fight. This has worked a couple times now. My logis are equiping tools instead of hives. There is alot of stuff that can be done ourselves to improve the quality of this game. This is our free time, why spend it dealing with excruciating exploits? Do you really enjoy frame rate drop? Nope, but I like winning, and will do whatever it takes to win. Although there have been FW matches where I've gotten more lag than in a PC match.... for us it has always been about corp. Winning is just a benefit of working together. People have the wrong idea about us, but it really doesn't matter, because we have a blast. when uprising dropped the game sucked. We all signed in just to hang out. Corps don't have to be about elite this or that, ours is about family. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Ensar Cael Dead Man's Game 61	Posted - 2013.12.21 16:31:00 - [197] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: but we can. If we take or destroy that supply depot the spam stops and people can actually have a decent fight. This has worked a couple times now. My logis are equiping tools instead of hives. There is alot of stuff that can be done ourselves to improve the quality of this game. This is our free time, why spend it dealing with excruciating exploits? Do you really enjoy frame rate drop? Nope, but I like winning, and will do whatever it takes to win. Although there have been FW matches where I've gotten more lag than in a PC match.... for us it has always been about corp. Winning is just a benefit of working together. People have the wrong idea about us, but it really doesn't matter, because we have a blast. when uprising dropped the game sucked. We all signed in just to hang out. Corps don't have to be about elite this or that, ours is about family. Now you have gone off topic again... Look Darken-Sol, you got some good players in your corp. I know this from fighting against you on a lot of occasions. The problem is that you lose the majority of your fights with other corps, regardless of equip spam or whatever. I have never lost a match against you guys personally (12 or 13) and only had one REALLY close fought match where you all went into top end gear. I was running the SVARTUR BJORN at the time (defunct due to encroaching apathy and inactivity) for the last 9 or so of those BBW/ SB fights. We never spammed equipment and fought you head on my two squads against your two squads. The SB's last match was against you guys and it was close fought. I enjoyed it as did my corp but you guys sent us all hatemail calling us cheaters. Despite the fact that you were mostly all proto and we only had 3 proto in one of our squads. I am NOT trolling here but it needs pointing out that this is WHY you are getting all the back lash attitude. It just reads like you guys are sore losers and need to find any excuse to mitigate a loss. If its about family and not winning for you guys then why care about EQ spam tactics? The sh*t talking and QQ has to stop I would say. As a corp leader you should be telling your lot to HTFU and get stuck in. Everyone else does and keeps going regardless. My corp never rage quit or left any battle once it started. Leaving in the warbarge was fine, but once deployment began we were committed and fought to the bitter end regardless. Anyone rage quitting was expelled. I was fortunate never to have to do this. TL;DR Leaving fights is rage quitting whatever way you want to put it. Deal with the tactics or don't play DUST. Simple.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 976	Posted - 2013.12.21 18:16:00 - [198] - Quote I think I know what the topic is, I wrote it. I was trying to explain our actions and bring attention to a problem with the game. look I don't care if my guys send mail. Plenty of guys get gg. Plenty of people get roasted. I personally get hate mail almost every match. Its part of the game and I can deal with some ribbing. We give respect to those who earn it. Feelings are hurt they can send me a message and I can mediate a resolution. thanks for the compliments and feedback. I'm not going to address your statistics, because that will start this dumb cycle all over again. There are plenty of reasons we lose, we never have left or rage quit. We win more than we lose. I expect those numbers to return to normal soon. I don't understand why you care. I gave the order to my guys to leave battle when frames drop below playable levels on the facilities map. We have had to do this twice now. For the most part we have found other solutions. here is what I can do. I will have a corp meeting and bring up all of your postal concerns. Perhaps we will start a PR department. Don't expect alot, most of us don't care what other people think. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Ensar Cael Dead Man's Game 63	Posted - 2013.12.21 18:29:00 - [199] - Quote If I were you, I would just tell your corp to hang low forum wise. It is of no concern what you decide, but when you bring it on the forums....well....expect to be trolled is all I can say. Stats aside, you have some decent players in corp as I can willingly confirm. I have no idea how you do in the game generally though as I don't bother to look at that side. I can only say from my experience's. I have run in couple of squads with you Darken Sol and find you to be a decent fighter. Just don't bother letting everyone on the forums know what you plan on doing. However, it's your right as it's mine obviously. See you out there o7
Ensar Cael Dead Man's Game 63	Posted - 2013.12.21 18:31:00 - [200] - Quote As for the hate mail, I only mentioned it to try showing you where things were a little off. SB is defunct and has been for awhile now.

abarkrishna WarRavens 227	Posted - 2013.12.21 18:42:00 - [201] - Quote 60% of the fan mail I get is from your corp usually calling me a cheater. Where does that fall in your "Honor" code? People are being hard on you because of that specifically. Cut that out and maybe people will take you seriously. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 980	Posted - 2013.12.21 18:50:00 - [202] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: 60% of the fan mail I get is from your corp usually calling me a cheater. Where does that fall in your "Honor" code? People are being hard on you because of that specifically. Cut that out and maybe people will take you seriously. do you have a problem? I have some time if you want to talk about it. I can make a squad and invite you. Why would I care if I am taken seriously by people who are making opinions based on mail other people send? I posted what I was willing to do about two or three posts up. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
abarkrishna WarRavens 227	Posted - 2013.12.21 18:56:00 - [203] - Quote I do have a problem. My problem is sore losers blindly throwing accusations with no proof. When someone beats me I send them a GG when your corp loses you send hate mail. Do you see the difference? That is not "honorable" No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 980	Posted - 2013.12.21 18:58:00 - [204] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: I do have a problem. My problem is sore losers blindly throwing accusations with no proof. When someone beats me I send them a GG when your corp loses you send hate mail. Do you see the difference? That is not "honorable" stop, you are being a sore loser right now. Come talk to me or shut up. Its simple really. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 980	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:01:00 - [205] - Quote Invite sent, still waiting Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
abarkrishna WarRavens 228	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:01:00 - [206] - Quote I would have to lose to be a sore loser. And just like charlie sheen I am winning. Also we are talking. Why should I get out of bed to turn on dust when I can sit here and express my opinions just as well. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 980	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:06:00 - [207] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: I would have to lose to be a sore loser. And just like charlie sheen I am winning. Also we are talking. Why should I get out of bed to turn on dust when I can sit here and express my opinions just as well. because I am going to ignore you. This is a problem between you and........well just you. Spout more trash if you like, I tried to handle this man to man. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
abarkrishna WarRavens 228	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:13:00 - [208] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: abarkrishna wrote: I would have to lose to be a sore loser. And just like charlie sheen I am winning. Also we are talking. Why should I get out of bed to turn on dust when I can sit here and express my opinions just as well. because I am going to ignore you. This is a problem between you and........well just you. Spout more trash if you like, I tried to handle this man to man. I do not have words to describe how little sense your logic makes. I am being civilized. I told you what my concern was. You now refuse to answer me because I would not get out of my nice warm bed to get on dust. How the **** is that settling anything? Where did I spout trash in the last few posts? I am sure I am not the only one getting sick of your corp accusing people of cheating. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 980	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:17:00 - [209] - Quote I have to donate plasma in about 20 minutes. I will be on all evening though. Feel free to PM me. I would like to address your hate. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Orion Vahid DUST University Ivy League 231	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:23:00 - [210] - Quote Damn it I'm running out of popcorn

abarkrishna WarRavens 228	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:25:00 - [211] - Quote I am running out of ways to dumb myself down enough for him to get my point. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1167	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:26:00 - [212] - Quote I think this Thread has just been elected to be moved to the War Room
abarkrishna WarRavens 228	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:27:00 - [213] - Quote 8213 wrote: I think this Thread has just been elected to be moved to the War Room Well your thinking. That's a start. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1167	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:30:00 - [214] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: 8213 wrote: I think this Thread has just been elected to be moved to the War Room Well your thinking. That's a start. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaam. I think I'm gonna Nova Knife you the nest time I see you, just for shigglez
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 981	Posted - 2013.12.21 19:35:00 - [215] - Quote Go look in the war room. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Orca Amsel Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 648	Posted - 2013.12.22 02:44:00 - [216] - Quote Man, you guys really need to change your name to Small Mad Bitches. Edit: also I am talking about about dogs here.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 981	Posted - 2013.12.22 02:58:00 - [217] - Quote Orca Amsel wrote: Man, you guys really need to change your name to Small Mad Bitches. Edit: also I am talking about about dogs here. ha ha more trolls. I have some tissues for you. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Vectar Locke Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 268	Posted - 2013.12.22 03:45:00 - [218] - Quote ITS A FESTIVUS MIRACLE!
prometheus actual Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 66	Posted - 2013.12.22 03:53:00 - [219] - Quote still going? Darken-Sol this is for you.
Orca Amsel Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 653	Posted - 2013.12.22 03:54:00 - [220] - Quote This is for you Darken.

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 982	Posted - 2013.12.22 04:10:00 - [221] - Quote I don't know any of you. I am enjoying your affection though. Were still on for that fight right? Cause it kinda sounded like you challenged me, then were like "only if you pay". Sounds like its only 36 mil to to get this rollin. I'll have it set up. You guys are pussies. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1902	Posted - 2013.12.22 04:16:00 - [222] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: I don't know any of you. I am enjoying your affection though. Were still on for that fight right? Cause it kinda sounded like you challenged me, then were like "only if you pay". Sounds like its only 36 mil to to get this rollin. I have it set up. You guys are pussies. 1. You called us out for cheating - and were wrong. You started this. 2. You talk of honor, but have no clue what actual honor is. Lord knows you have demonstrated you have none from all the personal attacks. 3. You aren't really worth any of our time outside from picking apart your whining. If you ever have a district we'll attack it. If we get the chance. It looks like you've got a bunch of people who actually pay attention to that pissed at you. Probably from whining about losing. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 982	Posted - 2013.12.22 04:22:00 - [223] - Quote We are 138 wrote: wow this thread is still going? lol lets shut up and fight already.... lets have a corp battle big bad babys VS subdreddit here. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1333	Posted - 2013.12.22 04:28:00 - [224] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Imagine if they added a radius around supply depots that you couldn't drop equipment within. So many players would QQ. It would be awesome. I'd love to see their argument; I'd love to see the argument of those who QQ about a possible equipment limit (like 3 total nanohives per player etc) Tank 514.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 982	Posted - 2013.12.22 04:29:00 - [225] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Are we gonna fight or what? We want to record it. Place all the strategic uplinks you want. Were gonna murder you. Unless you resort to the spam tactic you so adamantly defend. That will prove my point any way. So the time for talking is done. Put up or shut up. What point is it that this would supposedly "prove" exactly? Just asking for the sake of clarity. Anyhow, if you'd like to fight us, you simply need to provide us with the information on which district to attack and toss us the ISK for the clone pack. If you can supply both of those items, I've got no problem rubber stamping it. here. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 982	Posted - 2013.12.22 04:55:00 - [226] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I don't know any of you. I am enjoying your affection though. Were still on for that fight right? Cause it kinda sounded like you challenged me, then were like "only if you pay". Sounds like its only 36 mil to to get this rollin. I have it set up. You guys are pussies. 1. You called us out for cheating - and were wrong. You started this. 2. You talk of honor, but have no clue what actual honor is. Lord knows you have demonstrated you have none from all the personal attacks. 3. You aren't really worth any of our time outside from picking apart your whining. If you ever have a district we'll attack it. If we get the chance. It looks like you've got a bunch of people who actually pay attention to that pissed at you. Probably from whining about losing. go read the first page. Ander thedas came here. Not one word was said about anyone until he poked his head in here. Talos later says it was him with the spam. He lied about using basic uplinks because he was trying to conserve pg CPU to fit his mass driver, then edited it out. If he was going to conserve CPU pg he would be using the stable drop uplink. Who cares? You guys are just talk. Gimme a minute and I'll put something else here too. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 982	Posted - 2013.12.22 04:57:00 - [227] - Quote Canaan Knute wrote: Does anyone have a screenshot of the match results? I was in a match like this with a Subreddit squad and I have a feeling it's the same one. I missed this earlier. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2838	Posted - 2013.12.22 07:46:00 - [228] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: Does anyone have a screenshot of the match results? I was in a match like this with a Subreddit squad and I have a feeling it's the same one. I missed this earlier. Frankly, as a Director for Subdreddit, I personally endorse any and all cheap, stupid, pointless, ridiculous, irritating, hilarious, and/or obnoxious actions undertaken by our guys. This game is a casual put-put course of an FPS with a disturbing lack of content and ****-poor game mechanics. If you're worried about serious competition and honor, go play an FPS that facilitates such things. If you're gonna play Dust 514, prepare to be trolled, abused, irritated, and hopefully ultimately amused. When someone receives hate mail and posts it in our private forums, I send them a bonus. DEAL WITH IT. scrub
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 985	Posted - 2013.12.22 07:54:00 - [229] - Quote That's better. Do you still want a beating? Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 985	Posted - 2013.12.22 07:55:00 - [230] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: Does anyone have a screenshot of the match results? I was in a match like this with a Subreddit squad and I have a feeling it's the same one. I missed this earlier. Frankly, as a Director for Subdreddit, I personally endorse any and all cheap, stupid, pointless, ridiculous, irritating, hilarious, and/or obnoxious actions undertaken by our guys. This game is a casual put-put course of an FPS with a disturbing lack of content and ****-poor game mechanics. If you're worried about serious competition and honor, go play an FPS that facilitates such things. If you're gonna play Dust 514, prepare to be trolled, abused, irritated, and hopefully ultimately amused. When someone receives hate mail and posts it in our private forums, I send them a bonus. DEAL WITH IT. scrub its been fun. Do you still play dust? Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.

Vile Heathen Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 870	Posted - 2013.12.22 08:11:00 - [231] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: Does anyone have a screenshot of the match results? I was in a match like this with a Subreddit squad and I have a feeling it's the same one. I missed this earlier. Frankly, as a Director for Subdreddit, I personally endorse any and all cheap, stupid, pointless, ridiculous, irritating, hilarious, and/or obnoxious actions undertaken by our guys. This game is a casual put-put course of an FPS with a disturbing lack of content and ****-poor game mechanics. If you're worried about serious competition and honor, go play an FPS that facilitates such things. If you're gonna play Dust 514, prepare to be trolled, abused, irritated, and hopefully ultimately amused. When someone receives hate mail and posts it in our private forums, I send them a bonus. DEAL WITH IT. scrub As a director of Subdreddit, I hereby hijack this thread in the name of snoo and declare it hotdogs.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1131	Posted - 2013.12.22 08:38:00 - [232] - Quote Darn! I just ran out of popcorn. Off to go make more. Keep the fun rolling. This thread is the best entertainment I've had on the forum in weeks. Fun > Realism
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1757	Posted - 2013.12.22 08:47:00 - [233] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: I'm not calling you a liar but I think your full of **. Wat Closed Beta Vet** Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 991	Posted - 2013.12.22 08:56:00 - [234] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I'm not calling you a liar but I think your full of ****. Wat my grandpa used to say it, it implies that I don't believe him. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 411	Posted - 2013.12.22 09:04:00 - [235] - Quote Grim marchers did that to us in a dom. We we were close to moving on A and then lag from hell. That s*** is cheap as hell. Man up ladies. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 992	Posted - 2013.12.22 09:16:00 - [236] - Quote Vile Heathen wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: Does anyone have a screenshot of the match results? I was in a match like this with a Subreddit squad and I have a feeling it's the same one. I missed this earlier. Frankly, as a Director for Subdreddit, I personally endorse any and all cheap, stupid, pointless, ridiculous, irritating, hilarious, and/or obnoxious actions undertaken by our guys. This game is a casual put-put course of an FPS with a disturbing lack of content and ****-poor game mechanics. If you're worried about serious competition and honor, go play an FPS that facilitates such things. If you're gonna play Dust 514, prepare to be trolled, abused, irritated, and hopefully ultimately amused. When someone receives hate mail and posts it in our private forums, I send them a bonus. DEAL WITH IT. scrub As a director of Subdreddit, I hereby hijack this thread in the name of snoo and declare it hotdogs. you realize abarkrishna is gonna get stomped for supporting you, poor guy. you should at least offer him a position in your corp. He will fit right in Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
abarkrishna WarRavens 237	Posted - 2013.12.22 09:37:00 - [237] - Quote Or I could stay with my corp and have more assets to troll you with. I personally have hundreds of millions. If you ever get a district ( While I highly doubt it because you lack integrity and skill) I will personally fund an attack to get you out. Your scrubs. You don't belong here. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 992	Posted - 2013.12.22 09:43:00 - [238] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: Or I could stay with my corp and have more assets to troll you with. I personally have hundreds of millions. If you ever get a district ( While I highly doubt it because you lack integrity and skill) I will personally fund an attack to get you out. Your scrubs. You don't belong here. here? The forums? Your accusation about integrity is baseless. You must be partying hard if your on the forums in the middle of the night. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1180	Posted - 2013.12.22 10:18:00 - [239] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Darn! I just ran out of popcorn. Off to go make more. Keep the fun rolling. This thread is the best entertainment I've had on the forum in weeks. It's moved to the War Room mostly now. My boss signed me up for a THUNDERDOME against the "WarRaven". He didn't even tell me he threw my name into the ring, he knew I would accept it, and knew I could win.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2840	Posted - 2013.12.22 10:53:00 - [240] - Quote Do none of you understand the difference between "you're" and "your?" It's a relatively simple concept.

Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2840	Posted - 2013.12.22 10:55:00 - [241] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Vile Heathen wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: Does anyone have a screenshot of the match results? I was in a match like this with a Subreddit squad and I have a feeling it's the same one. I missed this earlier. Frankly, as a Director for Subdreddit, I personally endorse any and all cheap, stupid, pointless, ridiculous, irritating, hilarious, and/or obnoxious actions undertaken by our guys. This game is a casual put-put course of an FPS with a disturbing lack of content and ****-poor game mechanics. If you're worried about serious competition and honor, go play an FPS that facilitates such things. If you're gonna play Dust 514, prepare to be trolled, abused, irritated, and hopefully ultimately amused. When someone receives hate mail and posts it in our private forums, I send them a bonus. DEAL WITH IT. scrub As a director of Subdreddit, I hereby hijack this thread in the name of snoo and declare it hotdogs. you realize abarkrishna is gonna get stomped for supporting you, poor guy. you should at least offer him a position in your corp. He will fit right in Poor fella, I'm sure he'll be crying himself to sleep at night over it.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7578	Posted - 2013.12.22 10:55:00 - [242] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Imagine if they added a radius around supply depots that you couldn't drop equipment within. So many players would QQ. It would be awesome. Go thread it Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 992	Posted - 2013.12.22 10:56:00 - [243] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Do none of you understand the difference between "you're" and "your?" It's a relatively simple concept. ic told us you love proper grammar and spelling, and you will spend hours addressing it. Your prolly getn trollerd Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 993	Posted - 2013.12.22 11:00:00 - [244] - Quote Also too I hear you whine like a b!tch all day long on reddit. Havnt confirmed. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2279	Posted - 2013.12.22 14:47:00 - [245] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Grim marchers did that to us in a dom. We we were close to moving on A and then lag from hell. That s*** is cheap as hell. Man up ladies. Man up? Really? You're the one bitching about equipment spam, a viable tactic which is given a bad reputation because of the broken game mechanics. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2279	Posted - 2013.12.22 14:52:00 - [246] - Quote 8213 wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Darn! I just ran out of popcorn. Off to go make more. Keep the fun rolling. This thread is the best entertainment I've had on the forum in weeks. It's moved to the War Room mostly now. My boss signed me up for a THUNDERDOME against the "WarRaven". He didn't even tell me he threw my name into the ring, he knew I would accept it, and [i]knew I could win.[i] LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Yeah, you take your Militia Tank right into that Thunderdome and I'm sure you'll win When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Mc Ribwich Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 460	Posted - 2013.12.22 16:31:00 - [247] - Quote What the ** did you just *** say about my alliance, you little blueberry? IGÇÖll have you know I skilled top of my dropsuit class in proto gear, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on rival corporations, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire TEST alliance. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this district, mark my *** words. You think you can get away with saying that about my alliance over the Internet? Think again, **. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the New Eden universe and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, pubbie. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. YouGÇÖre *** dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, thanks to cloning technology, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thatGÇÖs just with the weapons I have skilled into. Not only am I extensively trained in Nova Knife combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Dust marketplace and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the planet, you little blueberry. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little GÇ£cleverGÇ¥ comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your *** tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now youGÇÖre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will fury all over you and you will drown in it. YouGÇÖre ***** dead, kiddo. Dust 514 video maker Subdreddit EU director and co-director of propaganda Twitter
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2284	Posted - 2013.12.22 16:33:00 - [248] - Quote Mc Ribwich wrote: What the ** did you just *** say about my alliance, you little blueberry? IGÇÖll have you know I skilled top of my dropsuit class in proto gear, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on rival corporations, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire TEST alliance. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this district, mark my *** words. You think you can get away with saying that about my alliance over the Internet? Think again, **. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the New Eden universe and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, pubbie. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. YouGÇÖre *** dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, thanks to cloning technology, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thatGÇÖs just with the weapons I have skilled into. Not only am I extensively trained in Nova Knife combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Dust marketplace and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the planet, you little blueberry. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little GÇ£cleverGÇ¥ comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your *** tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now youGÇÖre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will fury all over you and you will drown in it. YouGÇÖre ***** dead, kiddo. /thread When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Vile Heathen Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 873	Posted - 2013.12.22 16:34:00 - [249] - Quote Defend your imaginary spaceman honor, folks! It's your duty as a fake mercenary in a video game! And do it with 14 pages of asinine blabbering!
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1023	Posted - 2013.12.22 16:54:00 - [250] - Quote Why doesn't 8213 (SmithCommaBenjamin) produce a video? oh wait.... he already did Why doesn't he continue to? I would think a bad @55 corp like BBW would have 8213 releasing awesome recruiting videos. So about those vehicle locks...

KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1024	Posted - 2013.12.22 17:05:00 - [251] - Quote here's another gem from this genious 8213 LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!!!! So about those vehicle locks...
Icarus DelSol BIG BAD W0LVES 6	Posted - 2013.12.22 17:44:00 - [252] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Not sure don't use em. I have never accused anyone of using them. The process of doing it is a mystery to me. I put REs on a tank. Immediately he teleports everyone keeps firing and running the way they were facing. Grenades fly but the counter don't go down. Can't place equipment. What could cause this? Possibly just the user having a bad connection to the servers. It could also be a glitch but I think it's more of connection issues (Whether it be CCPs own servers or the persons own internet connection) Also the equipment spam could be the problem too. Get more details of what was happening during the battle and send a ticket to CCP. They usually reply within 24 hours. Also make a thread in the technical support/bugs section. It's not a bad connection, the whole squad lags out. There are definite spikes, and they tend to last only as long as you're engaging certain players in my experience.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2849	Posted - 2013.12.22 19:53:00 - [253] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Do none of you understand the difference between "you're" and "your?" It's a relatively simple concept. ic told us you love proper grammar and spelling, and you will spend hours addressing it. Your prolly getn trollerd Oh, I see. You guys aren't really morons, you're just pretending. le master trolls.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2296	Posted - 2013.12.22 20:04:00 - [254] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: here's another gem from this genious 8213 LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!!!! That is why his opinion shouldn't matter. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Ensar Cael Dead Man's Game 71	Posted - 2013.12.22 22:34:00 - [255] - Quote I just took a gander. Vid fails it seems.
Icarus DelSol BIG BAD W0LVES 6	Posted - 2013.12.23 02:41:00 - [256] - Quote Alright Talos, here's a stab at an actual argument for you: Healing hives can conceivably be useful next to supply depots (although in the Research Facility I can think of better spots for them), but other hives are not that useful (yes the addition of a hive will increase the rate at which you resupply, but I believe one of the Subdreddit guys said they were using basic gear, so it wasn't really helping very much). Uplinks are of course useful, but one or two, not 10. I think the problem is two-fold - some people spam equipment for the purpose of lagging the game out, and some do it for other reasons. On Dom, if you hold the objective, it is in your interest to lag the game because it is easier to defend the objective than take it under these conditions. This is exploitive because it is not an intended feature of the game. CCP provides tools to metagame, but using lag to your advantage is not a tool they intended to be used. I have no true proof of their intent, but it seems logical to me that they want their game to do well, and people do not continue playing games where exploits are the key to victory. The second possibility is the "selfish/unobservant blueberry". The scenario for this would be a scout with links spawns and runs to the supply depot to drop a link. A logi does the same, but arrives after the scout. Frustrated, he drops his links anyway because he wants those points and another link can't hurt. Alternately, he doesn't see the other link on his map because he's in a rush. Maybe a third blueberry spawns and decided he wants points too, so he drops a link on top of an existing link, hoping that people will spawn on it by accident. This was a common tactic in the MCC for a while: drop a link in the MCC and hope people spawn on it instead of on the normal spawn to farm points. Anyway, the end result is the same, namely that there are many pieces of equipment in a confined area which contribute to severe lag. This isn't intended, and is therefore not exploitive. Whatever the intent, the Wolves won't play the Research Lab until something changes (meta or otherwise). It's not because we can't win, it's not because we don't want to adapt (every update forces all of us to adapt) and it's not out of a sense of honor. It's because it's really boring to play a lagged out game. We have noticed that the lag is worse with several large PC corps in battle. This has led us to assume that it's an intended tactic. Could be wrong of course, and none of this implies Subdreddit in particular (in fact they were never on my personal list of offenders). It could very well be you guys weren't exploiting in that game, but the annoyance of the lag spikes led to the in-game mail and the forum post none-the-less. -As to the thread- I've always had good battles with Subdreddit, and I usually have good interactions with folks on /r/Dust514. Let's just have a battle like 138 suggested. Baal Roo, you must know we're not going to bankroll the whole battle. If we want to fight each other there must be a more equitable way to split the costs. How about this: we make two squads, 6 of yours and 6 of ours, and que-sync some pubs. Sometimes we'll be on the same team, and sometimes we'll be on opposite sides. Let's see who tops the leaderboards when we're all blue, and let's see who wins when we're red. We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway
Ensar Cael Dead Man's Game 71	Posted - 2013.12.23 02:49:00 - [257] - Quote Icarus DelSol wrote: Alright Talos, here's a stab at an actual argument for you: Healing hives can conceivably be useful next to supply depots (although in the Research Facility I can think of better spots for them), but other hives are not that useful (yes the addition of a hive will increase the rate at which you resupply, but I believe one of the Subdreddit guys said they were using basic gear, so it wasn't really helping very much). Uplinks are of course useful, but one or two, not 10. I think the problem is two-fold - some people spam equipment for the purpose of lagging the game out, and some do it for other reasons. On Dom, if you hold the objective, it is in your interest to lag the game because it is easier to defend the objective than take it under these conditions. This is exploitive because it is not an intended feature of the game. CCP provides tools to metagame, but using lag to your advantage is not a tool they intended to be used. I have no true proof of their intent, but it seems logical to me that they want their game to do well, and people do not continue playing games where exploits are the key to victory. The second possibility is the "selfish/unobservant blueberry". The scenario for this would be a scout with links spawns and runs to the supply depot to drop a link. A logi does the same, but arrives after the scout. Frustrated, he drops his links anyway because he wants those points and another link can't hurt. Alternately, he doesn't see the other link on his map because he's in a rush. Maybe a third blueberry spawns and decided he wants points too, so he drops a link on top of an existing link, hoping that people will spawn on it by accident. This was a common tactic in the MCC for a while: drop a link in the MCC and hope people spawn on it instead of on the normal spawn to farm points. Anyway, the end result is the same, namely that there are many pieces of equipment in a confined area which contribute to severe lag. This isn't intended, and is therefore not exploitive. Whatever the intent, the Wolves won't play the Research Lab until something changes (meta or otherwise). It's not because we can't win, it's not because we don't want to adapt (every update forces all of us to adapt) and it's not out of a sense of honor. It's because it's really boring to play a lagged out game. We have noticed that the lag is worse with several large PC corps in battle. This has led us to assume that it's an intended tactic. Could be wrong of course, and none of this implies Subdreddit in particular (in fact they were never on my personal list of offenders). It could very well be you guys weren't exploiting in that game, but the annoyance of the lag spikes led to the in-game mail and the forum post none-the-less. -As to the thread- I've always had good battles with Subdreddit, and I usually have good interactions with folks on /r/Dust514. Let's just have a battle like 138 suggested. Baal Roo, you must know we're not going to bankroll the whole battle. If we want to fight each other there must be a more equitable way to split the costs. How about this: we make two squads, 6 of yours and 6 of ours, and que-sync some pubs. Sometimes we'll be on the same team, and sometimes we'll be on opposite sides. Let's see who tops the leaderboards when we're all blue, and let's see who wins when we're red. We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway And this fellow mercs is how it should be done Respect to you Icarus DelSol o7
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2852	Posted - 2013.12.23 02:58:00 - [258] - Quote Icarus DelSol wrote: I've always had good battles with Subdreddit, and I usually have good interactions with folks on /r/Dust514. Let's just have a battle like 138 suggested. Baal Roo, you must know we're not going to bankroll the whole battle. If we want to fight each other there must be a more equitable way to split the costs. How about this: we make two squads, 6 of yours and 6 of ours, and que-sync some pubs. Sometimes we'll be on the same team, and sometimes we'll be on opposite sides. Let's see who tops the leaderboards when we're all blue, and let's see who wins when we're red. We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway You have to understand that we have hundreds of members in Subdreddit, so I'm not just going to authorize a 35 MIL ISK expensive for a grudge match between a few of our guys and some tryhard crybabies. As far as qsyncing, why would any of our people want to be subjected to playing with the sort of people who send hate mail every match and cry on the forums about nonsense like this? So, we're talking about wasting corp funds, or wasting our guy's time. Neither of which I'm particularly motivated to get behind. As far as equipment spam is concerned: take it up with CCP. I'm not aware of any of our guys caring enough about winning to intentionally "exploit" the problem. I can't say for certain, but I have to assume it was unintended. Regardless, even if it was intentional, I couldn't care less considering how many glorious tryhard tears it ended up harvesting. This game is WAY to casual and broken to ever warrant the sort of reaction your goober corpmates had.
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1026	Posted - 2013.12.23 03:24:00 - [259] - Quote Icarus DelSol wrote: We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway Why not just wake up and take a district? Even the Wolves could take a district from my experience. When you take a district from them, use your vast corporation wallet to convert the district to a research facility. "Why on earth would the honorable Wolves do that?" Well if you refuse to play on the map because cheap corps like Subdreddit lag you out, why not use the same tactics against your enemy? From what it sounds like, they schooled you on the most brutal Dom map in the game and your only excuse was "they used lag to beat us". Try the same tactic in PC on the research facility. What could go wrong? So about those vehicle locks...
abarkrishna WarRavens 245	Posted - 2013.12.23 03:35:00 - [260] - Quote Icarus DelSol wrote: Alright Talos, here's a stab at an actual argument for you: Healing hives can conceivably be useful next to supply depots (although in the Research Facility I can think of better spots for them), but other hives are not that useful (yes the addition of a hive will increase the rate at which you resupply, but I believe one of the Subdreddit guys said they were using basic gear, so it wasn't really helping very much). Uplinks are of course useful, but one or two, not 10. I think the problem is two-fold - some people spam equipment for the purpose of lagging the game out, and some do it for other reasons. On Dom, if you hold the objective, it is in your interest to lag the game because it is easier to defend the objective than take it under these conditions. This is exploitive because it is not an intended feature of the game. CCP provides tools to metagame, but using lag to your advantage is not a tool they intended to be used. I have no true proof of their intent, but it seems logical to me that they want their game to do well, and people do not continue playing games where exploits are the key to victory. The second possibility is the "selfish/unobservant blueberry". The scenario for this would be a scout with links spawns and runs to the supply depot to drop a link. A logi does the same, but arrives after the scout. Frustrated, he drops his links anyway because he wants those points and another link can't hurt. Alternately, he doesn't see the other link on his map because he's in a rush. Maybe a third blueberry spawns and decided he wants points too, so he drops a link on top of an existing link, hoping that people will spawn on it by accident. This was a common tactic in the MCC for a while: drop a link in the MCC and hope people spawn on it instead of on the normal spawn to farm points. Anyway, the end result is the same, namely that there are many pieces of equipment in a confined area which contribute to severe lag. This isn't intended, and is therefore not exploitive. Whatever the intent, the Wolves won't play the Research Lab until something changes (meta or otherwise). It's not because we can't win, it's not because we don't want to adapt (every update forces all of us to adapt) and it's not out of a sense of honor. It's because it's really boring to play a lagged out game. We have noticed that the lag is worse with several large PC corps in battle. This has led us to assume that it's an intended tactic. Could be wrong of course, and none of this implies Subdreddit in particular (in fact they were never on my personal list of offenders). It could very well be you guys weren't exploiting in that game, but the annoyance of the lag spikes led to the in-game mail and the forum post none-the-less. -As to the thread- I've always had good battles with Subdreddit, and I usually have good interactions with folks on /r/Dust514. Let's just have a battle like 138 suggested. Baal Roo, you must know we're not going to bankroll the whole battle. If we want to fight each other there must be a more equitable way to split the costs. How about this: we make two squads, 6 of yours and 6 of ours, and que-sync some pubs. Sometimes we'll be on the same team, and sometimes we'll be on opposite sides. Let's see who tops the leaderboards when we're all blue, and let's see who wins when we're red. We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway This is the most intelligent thing I have heard come from anyone in your corp. That being said. Perhaps you could make your corp mates understand why sending hate mail is a bad thing. That is bad sportsmanship conduct. Who would want to intentionally make a game lag? Everyone prefers a real fight. I like getting 30 kills a match. In a lag fest there are very few kills for anyone. To imply otherwise is quite ignorant. Like you said the real issue is lag. So why not address that in a thread specifically instead of drawing negative attention by publicly stating several corps are cheating. That alone is where this thread went. The way you word things is extremely important as is apparent in this thread. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!

Icarus DelSol BIG BAD W0LVES 6	Posted - 2013.12.23 03:40:00 - [261] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: Icarus DelSol wrote: We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway Why not just wake up and take a district? Even the Wolves could take a district from my experience. When you take a district from them, use your vast corporation wallet to convert the district to a research facility. "Why on earth would the honorable Wolves do that?" Well if you refuse to play on the map because cheap corps like Subdreddit lag you out, why not use the same tactics against your enemy? From what it sounds like, they schooled you on the most brutal Dom map in the game and your only excuse was "they used lag to beat us". Try the same tactic in PC on the research facility. What could go wrong? Because I don't have fun playing with or against that tactic. I just think lag sucks, whether it's effective or not. It's a major reason we're not particularly interested in PC at the moment.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1004	Posted - 2013.12.23 03:50:00 - [262] - Quote We can make more in an hour fund raising than a district can yield in a day. We have merced out in PC matches. Its not fun. We will get there someday but its not a priority. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1026	Posted - 2013.12.23 03:56:00 - [263] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: We can make more in an hour fund raising than a district can yield in a day. We have merced out in PC matches. Its not fun. We will get there someday but its not a priority. Fair enough. In the meantime, please learn to quote other people's posts to which you are responding to. It makes it much easier for the person to understand who the message is directed towards. To do this, click "quote" under the post which you would like to mention, highlight, or respond to. So about those vehicle locks...
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1004	Posted - 2013.12.23 03:59:00 - [264] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: We can make more in an hour fund raising than a district can yield in a day. We have merced out in PC matches. Its not fun. We will get there someday but its not a priority. Fair enough. In the meantime, please learn to quote other people's posts to which you are responding to. It makes it much easier for the person to understand who the message is directed towards. To do this, click "quote" under the post which you would like to mention, highlight, or respond to. I know how to quote. On longer posts it sucks cause the text box becomes so small. I should hook up my computer, but I'm lazy. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Gyyast MuffinMen 9	Posted - 2013.12.23 04:24:00 - [265] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: In the meantime, please learn to quote other people's posts to which you are responding to. It makes it much easier for the person to understand who the message is directed towards. To do this, click "quote" under the post which you would like to mention, highlight, or respond to. That was condescending and unnecessary. Did I do it right?
Icarus DelSol BIG BAD W0LVES 9	Posted - 2013.12.23 05:17:00 - [266] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: As far as qsyncing, why would any of our people want to be subjected to playing with the sort of people who send hate mail every match and cry on the forums about nonsense like this? So, we're talking about wasting corp funds, or wasting our guy's time. Neither of which I'm particularly motivated to get behind. I dunno, why don't you ask your corpmate who suggested the matchup instead of trolling me? I didn't call you guys out, I suggested playing the game together in an effort to show you that we don't all send hate mail and to show our guys that you don't all spam equipment. We don't police our members' messaging. If they want to send hate mail or gg, they are free to do so. We're a casual corp and have neither the time nor the desire to manage our members like that.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1004	Posted - 2013.12.23 05:48:00 - [267] - Quote Icarus DelSol wrote: Baal Roo wrote: As far as qsyncing, why would any of our people want to be subjected to playing with the sort of people who send hate mail every match and cry on the forums about nonsense like this? So, we're talking about wasting corp funds, or wasting our guy's time. Neither of which I'm particularly motivated to get behind. I dunno, why don't you ask your corpmate who suggested the matchup instead of trolling me? I didn't call you guys out, I suggested playing the game together in an effort to show you that we don't all send hate mail and to show our guys that you don't all spam equipment. We don't police our members' messaging. If they want to send hate mail or gg, they are free to do so. We're a casual corp and have neither the time nor the desire to manage our members like that. Ran into a squad of these guys. Their tough. We lost. didn't cost a dime. GG Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 150	Posted - 2013.12.23 06:06:00 - [268] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/gw4jkUZ.jpg That happened. And then Darken DIDN'T send me hate mail afterwards. Can we let this thread die, now?
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 83	Posted - 2013.12.23 06:33:00 - [269] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that **** no more either. Lol, run when you see me then, find a place to hide, don't even think about it, just quit. Honestly you underestimate the rest of the Dust Community. Everyone seems to do this. It works for some things but for others, like moving at a relatively decent frame rate, it doesn't. BTW no one in Hellstorm (when I was a part of the corp) ever suggested that putting a dimmer switch on our ethernet cabling was a good idea. It was only ever suggested that a logi with a rep tool in their hands is a dead logi. Agent For Hire
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 83	Posted - 2013.12.23 06:40:00 - [270] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: http://i.imgur.com/gw4jkUZ.jpg That happened. And then Darken DIDN'T send me hate mail afterwards. Can we let this thread die, now? LOL looks like a good fight, balanced and also looks like a case of someone got schooled, good work, looks like a lot of huffing and puffing over a brick house if you ask me. Agent For Hire

Icarus DelSol BIG BAD W0LVES 9	Posted - 2013.12.23 06:48:00 - [271] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: This is the most intelligent thing I have heard come from anyone in your corp. That being said. Perhaps you could make your corp mates understand why sending hate mail is a bad thing. That is bad sportsmanship conduct. Who would want to intentionally make a game lag? Everyone prefers a real fight. I like getting 30 kills a match. In a lag fest there are very few kills for anyone. To imply otherwise is quite ignorant. Like you said the real issue is lag. So why not address that in a thread specifically instead of drawing negative attention by publicly stating several corps are cheating. That alone is where this thread went. The way you word things is extremely important as is apparent in this thread. Think about it. What if CCP fixed what is causing lag. Would this "tactic" of your still exist? This game has plenty of lag spikes without any cause. For example in the first 15 seconds of a match. There is a tremendous lag spike and dip in frame rate. Obviously it is a significant issue as it happens in more than just one map. I'm inclined to agree that it's unsportsmanlike, however we don't believe in censoring our members. If they want to send hate, they are free to do so, and if they want to send gg, they are also free to do so. If we were a serious corp I would be more interested in controlling our interaction with outside players and corps, but even then more for long term strategy than a sense of moral decency. I don't like sending hate mail much myself (although I've sent the odd snarky remark here and there), but my corpmates are adults and they can manage their reputations on their own. You like getting 30 kills in a match and lag hampers that, but many players like to win at any cost. Lag is an effective tool for these players. They can, for instance, throw expensive equipment at an opponent long enough to take an objective, and then switch to cheap suits and lag the game out to prevent the other side from taking it back. Saves isk and provides the win. I don't think it's ignorant to accuse players of exploiting equipment spam lag; it's obvious it's happening in some matches and some of the commenters in this thread have admitted doing it. As you say, the lag spikes are a significant issue, and despite the fact that traditional lag switches apparently don't work in this game, I can't help but feel some players have figured out how to purposely drop frame rates. For example, one night last week I played two matches against these two tanks (can't remember their names or corps, but I think they were from somewhere notable). The game was mostly lag-free, but every time we started to take on one of the tanks the frames suddenly dropped out and they scooted out of weapon range. Same two guys in two different matches, same pattern. Very well could have been related to engaging the tanks but in no way caused by the tankers themselves, but it was definitely correlated. I don't know enough about networks and servers to hazard any guesses, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone figured how to make a new kind of lag switch. Maybe none of it is intentional, but it sure appears to be sometimes. Anyway, we have a new video guy, so maybe he can capture actual footage and submit a ticket, but for now we're just stuck with anecdotes. I'd like to see it fixed, but this thread wasn't put into the bug section because it wasn't originally calling for a fix. And as for bad attention, it has been said that there is no such thing I suspect some will now be gunning for Darken, but he's a ranked player and can hold his own, and the rest of use aren't too shabby either. Come at me bro, do you even lift?!?
abarkrishna WarRavens 246	Posted - 2013.12.23 08:21:00 - [272] - Quote Lag switching involves being the host of a game. CCP hosts all games. It is not possible for any one player to affect anothers ping. It's all about server performance which is easily one of the worst I have ever seen on a game and an individuals internet connection. If someone was to try to lag switch it would only make himself lag. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1004	Posted - 2013.12.23 09:28:00 - [273] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: http://i.imgur.com/gw4jkUZ.jpg That happened. And then Darken DIDN'T send me hate mail afterwards. Can we let this thread die, now? just because I don't restrict my wolves from sending hate mail doesnt mean I send everyone hate mail. There's probably ten orso mercs who can say I've sent em something bad. Most mails are gg. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1195	Posted - 2013.12.23 10:31:00 - [274] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: http://i.imgur.com/gw4jkUZ.jpg That happened. And then Darken DIDN'T send me hate mail afterwards. Can we let this thread die, now? I was p*ssed off after that match. Your team didn't have to do anything. We beat ourselves during that match. DUST was not kind to today. I don't mind losing, but losing games we should have won is a huge problem for me. After that match we talked about it and it came down to "nobody cared that game". We preformed better against Ancient Exiles tonight than we did against you in that game. I didn't send hatemail, but I will admit I made a point not to send a 'gg'. I wanted to send hatemail to my own team before you guys, including myself. Fish in a bucket!
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 153	Posted - 2013.12.23 10:32:00 - [275] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: http://i.imgur.com/gw4jkUZ.jpg That happened. And then Darken DIDN'T send me hate mail afterwards. Can we let this thread die, now? just because I don't restrict my wolves from sending hate mail doesnt mean I send everyone hate mail. There's probably ten orso mercs who can say I've sent em something bad. Most mails are gg. Sigh. Dude, seriously... I meant that as if to say "he didn't send hate mail, so let's all get over this because it shouldn't be a big deal anymore." I was trying to say you lost gracefully but there you go again choosing the sword over the olive branch with you feeling like you need to defend yourself. I've kept my mouth shut on this thread since page three because it was obvious you wouldn't stop slinging mud regardless of my words or actions and I didn't have enough napkins to wipe the bile off the side of your mouth and I much preferred to just walk away then to continuously fan the flames. Why can't you just LET IT GO? Why? I don't care that you don't want to apologize. It's your prerogative to choose how you come across to others. But for the last few pages it seemed like you were finally at least coming off as reasonable and the GG mail suggested that maybe I could come back here, show that everyone got what they wanted (our corps sparred, fun was had, you guys lost gracefully without making a huff about it, etc) but you're right back here defending your original hate mail and saying it's not a common occurrence. I just wanted to come back here, give everyone a reason to just let it go, and walk out knowing it was behind us but then you go and trivialize it like that. For a man who talks a lot of honor you're making it REALLY difficult to find any in you. I'm going to ask one more time: Can we PLEASE all just be done with this? This isn't what our game needs right now. We fought a good fight in the game and on the forums. Let's just pack it all up, yeah?
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1006	Posted - 2013.12.23 16:05:00 - [276] - Quote Its all good. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1911	Posted - 2013.12.24 18:24:00 - [277] - Quote Icarus DelSol wrote: Alright Talos, here's a stab at an actual argument for you: Healing hives can conceivably be useful next to supply depots (although in the Research Facility I can think of better spots for them), but other hives are not that useful (yes the addition of a hive will increase the rate at which you resupply, but I believe one of the Subdreddit guys said they were using basic gear, so it wasn't really helping very much). Uplinks are of course useful, but one or two, not 10. I think the problem is two-fold - some people spam equipment for the purpose of lagging the game out, and some do it for other reasons. On Dom, if you hold the objective, it is in your interest to lag the game because it is easier to defend the objective than take it under these conditions. This is exploitive because it is not an intended feature of the game. CCP provides tools to metagame, but using lag to your advantage is not a tool they intended to be used. I have no true proof of their intent, but it seems logical to me that they want their game to do well, and people do not continue playing games where exploits are the key to victory. The second possibility is the "selfish/unobservant blueberry". The scenario for this would be a scout with links spawns and runs to the supply depot to drop a link. A logi does the same, but arrives after the scout. Frustrated, he drops his links anyway because he wants those points and another link can't hurt. Alternately, he doesn't see the other link on his map because he's in a rush. Maybe a third blueberry spawns and decided he wants points too, so he drops a link on top of an existing link, hoping that people will spawn on it by accident. This was a common tactic in the MCC for a while: drop a link in the MCC and hope people spawn on it instead of on the normal spawn to farm points. Anyway, the end result is the same, namely that there are many pieces of equipment in a confined area which contribute to severe lag. This isn't intended, and is therefore not exploitive. Whatever the intent, the Wolves won't play the Research Lab until something changes (meta or otherwise). It's not because we can't win, it's not because we don't want to adapt (every update forces all of us to adapt) and it's not out of a sense of honor. It's because it's really boring to play a lagged out game. We have noticed that the lag is worse with several large PC corps in battle. This has led us to assume that it's an intended tactic. Could be wrong of course, and none of this implies Subdreddit in particular (in fact they were never on my personal list of offenders). It could very well be you guys weren't exploiting in that game, but the annoyance of the lag spikes led to the in-game mail and the forum post none-the-less. -As to the thread- I've always had good battles with Subdreddit, and I usually have good interactions with folks on /r/Dust514. Let's just have a battle like 138 suggested. Baal Roo, you must know we're not going to bankroll the whole battle. If we want to fight each other there must be a more equitable way to split the costs. How about this: we make two squads, 6 of yours and 6 of ours, and que-sync some pubs. Sometimes we'll be on the same team, and sometimes we'll be on opposite sides. Let's see who tops the leaderboards when we're all blue, and let's see who wins when we're red. We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway There we go, this thread would have been over long ago if this had been posted earlier... I can't speak for every corp out there, but I've never heard of anyone intentionally causing lag as it has been known to hurt as often as it helps. Besides, no one in Subdreddit gives enough of a **** to bring out proto in pub matches 90% of the time, so why risk playing a laggy un-fun match? I think the real reason you see more equipment thrown down vs. PC corps (a group that Subdreddit does not belong) is that equipment wins fights. Uplinks give you extra places to spawn so you don't get pushed out easily and hives sometimes give reps but always give grenades. Maps like the RF are notoriously bad for lag, often enough times I refuse to play the inside points for that reason. Nobody really thinks twice about people dropping out from wanting to play a particular map, so feel free not to play those maps until CCP fixes whatever the hell is happening. That que synch idea sounds fun, though. We'll try to figure out a time that works for anyone interested. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.


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