you realize abarkrishna is gonna get stomped for supporting you, poor guy.

you should at least offer him a position in your corp. He will fit right in

Imagine if they added a radius around supply depots that you couldn't drop equipment within. So many players would QQ. It would be awesome.

Do none of you understand the difference between "you're" and "your?" It's a relatively simple concept.

Grim marchers did that to us in a dom. We
we were close to moving on A and then lag from hell.

That s*** is cheap as hell.

Man up ladies.

It's moved to the War Room mostly now. My boss signed me up for a THUNDERDOME against the "WarRaven".
He didn't even tell me he threw my name into the ring, he knew I would accept it, and [i]knew I could win.[i]

What the **** did you just ******* say about my alliance, you little blueberry? IGÇÖll have you know I skilled top of my dropsuit class in proto gear, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on rival corporations, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire TEST alliance. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this district, mark my ******* words. You think you can get away with saying that **** about my alliance over the Internet? Think again, ******. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the New Eden universe and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, pubbie. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. YouGÇÖre ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, thanks to cloning technology, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thatGÇÖs just with the weapons I have skilled into. Not only am I extensively trained in Nova Knife combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Dust marketplace and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the planet, you little blueberry. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little GÇ£cleverGÇ¥ comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now youGÇÖre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will **** fury all over you and you will drown in it. YouGÇÖre ******* dead, kiddo.

Possibly just the user having a bad connection to the servers. It could also be a glitch but I think it's more of connection issues (Whether it be CCPs own servers or the persons own internet connection)

Also the equipment spam could be the problem too. Get more details of what was happening during the battle and send a ticket to CCP. They usually reply within 24 hours. Also make a thread in the technical support/bugs section.

ic told us you love proper grammar and spelling, and you will spend hours addressing it. Your prolly getn trollerd

here's another gem from this genious 8213
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Alright Talos, here's a stab at an actual argument for you:

Healing hives can conceivably be useful next to supply depots (although in the Research Facility I can think of better spots for them), but other hives are not that useful (yes the addition of a hive will increase the rate at which you resupply, but I believe one of the Subdreddit guys said they were using basic gear, so it wasn't really helping very much). Uplinks are of course useful, but one or two, not 10.

I think the problem is two-fold - some people spam equipment for the purpose of lagging the game out, and some do it for other reasons. On Dom, if you hold the objective, it is in your interest to lag the game because it is easier to defend the objective than take it under these conditions. This is exploitive because it is not an intended feature of the game. CCP provides tools to metagame, but using lag to your advantage is not a tool they intended to be used. I have no true proof of their intent, but it seems logical to me that they want their game to do well, and people do not continue playing games where exploits are the key to victory.

The second possibility is the "selfish/unobservant blueberry". The scenario for this would be a scout with links spawns and runs to the supply depot to drop a link. A logi does the same, but arrives after the scout. Frustrated, he drops his links anyway because he wants those points and another link can't hurt. Alternately, he doesn't see the other link on his map because he's in a rush. Maybe a third blueberry spawns and decided he wants points too, so he drops a link on top of an existing link, hoping that people will spawn on it by accident. This was a common tactic in the MCC for a while: drop a link in the MCC and hope people spawn on it instead of on the normal spawn to farm points. Anyway, the end result is the same, namely that there are many pieces of equipment in a confined area which contribute to severe lag. This isn't intended, and is therefore not exploitive.

Whatever the intent, the Wolves won't play the Research Lab until something changes (meta or otherwise). It's not because we can't win, it's not because we don't want to adapt (every update forces all of us to adapt) and it's not out of a sense of honor. It's because it's really boring to play a lagged out game. We have noticed that the lag is worse with several large PC corps in battle. This has led us to assume that it's an intended tactic. Could be wrong of course, and none of this implies Subdreddit in particular (in fact they were never on my personal list of offenders). It could very well be you guys weren't exploiting in that game, but the annoyance of the lag spikes led to the in-game mail and the forum post none-the-less.

-As to the thread-

I've always had good battles with Subdreddit, and I usually have good interactions with folks on /r/Dust514. Let's just have a battle like 138 suggested. Baal Roo, you must know we're not going to bankroll the whole battle. If we want to fight each other there must be a more equitable way to split the costs. How about this: we make two squads, 6 of yours and 6 of ours, and que-sync some pubs. Sometimes we'll be on the same team, and sometimes we'll be on opposite sides. Let's see who tops the leaderboards when we're all blue, and let's see who wins when we're red. We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway

I've always had good battles with Subdreddit, and I usually have good interactions with folks on /r/Dust514. Let's just have a battle like 138 suggested. Baal Roo, you must know we're not going to bankroll the whole battle. If we want to fight each other there must be a more equitable way to split the costs. How about this: we make two squads, 6 of yours and 6 of ours, and que-sync some pubs. Sometimes we'll be on the same team, and sometimes we'll be on opposite sides. Let's see who tops the leaderboards when we're all blue, and let's see who wins when we're red. We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway

We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway

Alright Talos, here's a stab at an actual argument for you:

Healing hives can conceivably be useful next to supply depots (although in the Research Facility I can think of better spots for them), but other hives are not that useful (yes the addition of a hive will increase the rate at which you resupply, but I believe one of the Subdreddit guys said they were using basic gear, so it wasn't really helping very much). Uplinks are of course useful, but one or two, not 10.

I think the problem is two-fold - some people spam equipment for the purpose of lagging the game out, and some do it for other reasons. On Dom, if you hold the objective, it is in your interest to lag the game because it is easier to defend the objective than take it under these conditions. This is exploitive because it is not an intended feature of the game. CCP provides tools to metagame, but using lag to your advantage is not a tool they intended to be used. I have no true proof of their intent, but it seems logical to me that they want their game to do well, and people do not continue playing games where exploits are the key to victory.

The second possibility is the "selfish/unobservant blueberry". The scenario for this would be a scout with links spawns and runs to the supply depot to drop a link. A logi does the same, but arrives after the scout. Frustrated, he drops his links anyway because he wants those points and another link can't hurt. Alternately, he doesn't see the other link on his map because he's in a rush. Maybe a third blueberry spawns and decided he wants points too, so he drops a link on top of an existing link, hoping that people will spawn on it by accident. This was a common tactic in the MCC for a while: drop a link in the MCC and hope people spawn on it instead of on the normal spawn to farm points. Anyway, the end result is the same, namely that there are many pieces of equipment in a confined area which contribute to severe lag. This isn't intended, and is therefore not exploitive.

Whatever the intent, the Wolves won't play the Research Lab until something changes (meta or otherwise). It's not because we can't win, it's not because we don't want to adapt (every update forces all of us to adapt) and it's not out of a sense of honor. It's because it's really boring to play a lagged out game. We have noticed that the lag is worse with several large PC corps in battle. This has led us to assume that it's an intended tactic. Could be wrong of course, and none of this implies Subdreddit in particular (in fact they were never on my personal list of offenders). It could very well be you guys weren't exploiting in that game, but the annoyance of the lag spikes led to the in-game mail and the forum post none-the-less.

-As to the thread-

I've always had good battles with Subdreddit, and I usually have good interactions with folks on /r/Dust514. Let's just have a battle like 138 suggested. Baal Roo, you must know we're not going to bankroll the whole battle. If we want to fight each other there must be a more equitable way to split the costs. How about this: we make two squads, 6 of yours and 6 of ours, and que-sync some pubs. Sometimes we'll be on the same team, and sometimes we'll be on opposite sides. Let's see who tops the leaderboards when we're all blue, and let's see who wins when we're red. We shouldn't be fighting like this, we all know the real enemy is Nyan San anyway

Why not just wake up and take a district?

Even the Wolves could take a district from my experience.

When you take a district from them, use your vast corporation wallet to convert the district to a research facility.

"Why on earth would the honorable Wolves do that?"

Well if you refuse to play on the map because cheap corps like Subdreddit lag you out, why not use the same tactics against your enemy? From what it sounds like, they schooled you on the most brutal Dom map in the game and your only excuse was "they used lag to beat us". Try the same tactic in PC on the research facility. What could go wrong?

We can make more in an hour fund raising than a district can yield in a day.

We have merced out in PC matches. Its not fun. We will get there someday but its not a priority.

Fair enough.

In the meantime, please learn to quote other people's posts to which you are responding to. It makes it much easier for the person to understand who the message is directed towards.

To do this, click "quote" under the post which you would like to mention, highlight, or respond to.

In the meantime, please learn to quote other people's posts to which you are responding to. It makes it much easier for the person to understand who the message is directed towards.

To do this, click "quote" under the post which you would like to mention, highlight, or respond to.

As far as qsyncing, why would any of our people want to be subjected to playing with the sort of people who send hate mail every match and cry on the forums about nonsense like this?

So, we're talking about wasting corp funds, or wasting our guy's time. Neither of which I'm particularly motivated to get behind.

I dunno, why don't you ask your corpmate who suggested the matchup instead of trolling me? I didn't call you guys out, I suggested playing the game together in an effort to show you that we don't all send hate mail and to show our guys that you don't all spam equipment.

We don't police our members' messaging. If they want to send hate mail or gg, they are free to do so. We're a casual corp and have neither the time nor the desire to manage our members like that.

Well you might as well add that hellstorm lag switching scum to the list.....I ain't dealing with that **** no more either.

http://i.imgur.com/gw4jkUZ.jpg

That happened. And then Darken DIDN'T send me hate mail afterwards. Can we let this thread die, now?