kill LAVS,Dropships,Instalations

Scare Tanks Away.

If they gang up on a tank then depending on the drivers skills kill it or put it in critical condition.

militia and standard Swarms only do good against SH!t fit tanks

Older brother? Wat? Forge gun was added way after Swarms. How long have you been playing this game, son?

How about buffing swarm damage, beyond what it was pre-nerf. Make it able to kill an LAV in one or two swarms.

Now, for balance, since it is a light weapon.

Give medum vehicles (dropships) a 20% natural resistance to them, since they are light weapons vs a medium vehicle

Give Heavy vehicles a 40% resistance to them, since it is a light weapon vs a heavy vehicle.

Thoughts?

theres moar.

proximity mines are good enough i had to put an alarm system to survive.
plasma cannons usually finish me if i just got out of tank or AV fight
assault dropships hover above a tank and rain missles while he cant shoot you
Even swarms can kill a WOUNDED tank
so... yeah bud tanks have more than 2 counters

Except the swarm launcher range nerf makes it poorly suited to engage tanks, dropships or LAV's. All 3 types of vehicles have more than enough speed to evade a 3rd volley.

Not QQ, just fact. Limited range and nerfed damage on the massive maps in DUST means that the only role the swarm serves now is area denial. Why would a player (outside someone helping out their squad) elect to place a weapon in their light slot when they know it will put them at a disadvantage against infantry and serve to only temporarily inconvenience vehicles?

Perhaps it has some future use with MTACS or something else, but please stop talking about the proper "role" of swarm launchers.

It reminds me of the silly dropship "role" threads after missiles were nerfed and before WP for transport was added. Dropships had no role or source of WP, and were obsoleted by the uplink spam and LAV's.

It's the same with swarms now.

The point is that a swarm launcher is a light weapon. It should be most effective on light vehicles. HAVs aren't heavy if a light weapon can kill them as easily as they do LAVs. A heavy weapon should be the best at taking out heavy vehicles.

Lets use this logic.

The point is that a shotgun is a light weapon. It should be most effective on light/medium frames. Heavies aren't heavy if a shotgun can kill them as easily as they light/medium frames. A heavy weapon should be the best at taking out heavies.

Sounds idioticdoesn't it
Anyways, no. If Forge Guns are better than Swarm Launchers then everyone is going to flock to Forge Guns.

Also, I challenge anyone to answer this. Why would I use a Swarm Launcher when I can only kill LAVs?

Why would I waste 4-6 million SP on a weapon that is only good against LAVs?

Why would I use a Swarm Launcher when Forge Guns are 100% better at everything in comparison?

What reason would I have to use a Swarm Launcher?

ALSO, IF ONLY HEAVY WEAPONS SHOULD TAKE OUT HEAVY VEHICLES, THEN NERF THE PLASMA CANNON. AS BY THESE STANDARDS IT WOULD MAKE NO SENSE FOR THE PLASMA CANNON TO BE THE STRONGEST AV WEAPON IN THE GAME.

With logic like that light weapons shouldn't be able to hurt heavies and sidearms should only hurt scouts. Derp.

A nonbiased opinion from a person who has proto forge and used to have maxed out tanks

They were meant for the people who wanted to have some form of AV Without skilling into another dropsuit

Heavy suits and forge guns are the answer to tanks CCP intended to do. soontm.

If you want to kill a tank. use the fatboy suit and his oversized vacuum cleaner.

Swarm launchers were meant to be a less effective alternative because mostly everybody had medium suits.

And As you know medium suits were intended for rifle 514 not AV 514

tl;dr: May the forge be with you

Anyways, no. If Forge Guns are better than Swarm Launchers then everyone is going to flock to Forge Guns.

Interesting theory, but do you not think a cammondo role is best suited to a rifle and an AV weapon, does it not seem strange that swarms have become vehicle only?