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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:47:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:For those delusional social justice warriors who think women can compete at the level a man can, here's a fun little story about the two most dominant female athletes ever facing off against a man
"During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38). Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily." Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun"
Nice try, tumblr kiddies. Using an example of a sport where balance (men have the advantage due to typically lower centre of gravity) and strength (men have the advantage here too) is a nice try. Even better when a large part of the argument against male dominance had been focused more on team sports and you deliberately chose an individual sport to "counter" the claims. Nice try, yourself. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) LMAO name one sport where balance and strength doesn't matter? Football? wrong Baseball? wrong Basketball? wrong Soccer? wrong Hockey? wrong Balance and strength are integral parts of every single sport in existence, nice try social justice kiddo A female goalie once tried to make the NHL leafs' squad. She was given one pre-season game and was so bad she never got another. Good game, was easy.
He's just another hippy type that denies reality it seems, posts hidden helps to eliminate that carebear trumps reality nonsense.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1715
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:50:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:For those delusional social justice warriors who think women can compete at the level a man can, here's a fun little story about the two most dominant female athletes ever facing off against a man
"During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38). Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily." Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun"
Nice try, tumblr kiddies.
Precisely thank you, its a shame that you even had to give an example but bravo, reality 1 care bears -3
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University Ivy League
62
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:52:00 -
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I find it funny that when the word female, woman or girl is mentioned you render a 5 page thread in no time at all.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1715
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:53:00 -
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Garret blacknova - thinks real proven observations are sexist.
You represent the idiocy of today with hits such as "calling someone black is racist" and "its not fair blind people can't box"
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1715
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:10:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:For those delusional social justice warriors who think women can compete at the level a man can, here's a fun little story about the two most dominant female athletes ever facing off against a man
"During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38). Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily." Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun"
Nice try, tumblr kiddies. Using an example of a sport where balance (men have the advantage due to typically lower centre of gravity) and strength (men have the advantage here too) is a nice try. Even better when a large part of the argument against male dominance had been focused more on team sports and you deliberately chose an individual sport to "counter" the claims. Nice try, yourself. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) LMAO name one sport where balance and strength doesn't matter? Football? wrong Baseball? wrong Basketball? wrong Soccer? wrong Hockey? wrong Balance and strength are integral parts of every single sport in existence, nice try social justice kiddo A female goalie once tried to make the NHL leafs' squad. She was given one pre-season game and was so bad she never got another. Good game, was easy.
It's funny as well because I used sports as a SIMPLE and reasonable example, his whole THEORY (trash/denial/ignorance) is based off of that and even that alone can't be argued with. He just picked one piece of a post among a few and attacked the most undeniable part.
Very amusing.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
627
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:21:00 -
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Huh, too bad it's not just an option (Alt walk [On][Off]) 'cause then everyone would be happy.
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Wow!.... You guys got a bit off topic there ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
Scout Tactician
"You have been Scanned"
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Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
493
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:23:00 -
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As one of the first female characters in closed Beta I, for one wish for the SEXY BACK to stay BACK.
Whats the point having a female character if I cant mesmorize a heavy before putting 50 Combat rounds through his face! |
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
627
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Posted - 2013.12.12 11:27:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:As one of the first female characters in closed Beta I, for one wish for the SEXY BACK to stay BACK.
Whats the point having a female character if I cant mesmorize a heavy before putting 50 Combat rounds through his face!
*imagined* Oh man! That would be hilarious .
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1273
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Posted - 2013.12.12 12:44:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:I'm sorry. I really am. Looking back on this thread I regret opening it because I feel like there's a lot of hostility in some of the replies. I should have opening the thread while choosing my words more carefully or not at all. I would not have been bothered by the new walking animation if the animation was the same from the beginning. But it was changed to a more modest walk, so when it was reverted (as some say to the "old" walk) the change became very noticeable and that much more jarring. I have no problems with the suits accentuating the female figure, I kind of like it in a future-spacey kind of way. The Caldari medium does this and the Gallante suits really do this and I like it. Heck, I play mostly a Dragonfly Scout (despite Scouts doing poorly right now) because I think it DOES look sexy. But if, let's say, the suits didn't reflect this, if they were more egalitarian and androgynous at the beginning in beta up to now, and then one day you realize that "hey! this has been changed to a skin tight suit over night!" then it would be very noticeable and people would get upset. This is how I felt about the walking animation. Not that I was upset to the point of crying sexism but it did feel like a step backwards for CCP. If CCP wants to keep this new animation then I will get used to it, I like Dust enough to deal with it. Again, had the animation been like this from the beginning I would not have said anything because that is how the game goes. Like Bayonetta for example, I don't mind playing that game at all because Bayonetta is like that from the beginning. I think she's cool and pretty BA. She's a caricature but that's just who she is and I don't see sexism in her because that's how she was developed from the beginning (albeit the game is kind of sexist). Anyways, I'm sorry for getting people upset and I guess it's time for me to take a break from the forums for awhile. I really don't want to be known as the one who started "that" argument, so again, I apologize. and, well, I guess I'll just play the game and shut up about it. Sorry again to everyone. ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) your one of those people who don't like conflicts aren't you? don't show weakness these people will eat u alive for it. OM NOM NOM
@Lucrezia That is just the thing though, it was like that from the start until someone got all up in arms about it. I don't see it as being sexist, I see it as being a simple difference that should exist.
If we wanted sexism in the game, we'd ask for all map sockets to get the Gallente Pleasure Hub treatment (you know, ******* and stripper poles all over the place)
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Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
855
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:24:00 -
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No ****, women characters walk like women.
Omni-Soldier
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4139
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:24:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Name one sport where strength and balance aren't integral parts of the game
Women cannot compete on the same level as men in sports, I have evidence to support it, and you cannot show me one instance of a woman being successful in any men's sport I said there are sports where other elements are important. I didn't say that strength and balance aren't integral.
And saying "men's sport" in that context is your admission that there ARE sports women are better at than men. Thanks for finally recognising my point. |
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Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
210
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:26:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. Please don't Or at least have an option to keep it? :D
Gÿé Syeven 514
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
1037
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:30:00 -
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Wow, this thread jumped to 8 pages already?
Can someone tell me why this sh*t matters in a game that's beyond broken right now?
Once again, it goes back to a selfish, self serving community that one wants to fuel their own agenda and let the rest of the game rot by the wayside...
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
535
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:46:00 -
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8213 wrote:Wow, this thread jumped to 8 pages already?
Can someone tell me why this sh*t matters in a game that's beyond broken right now?
Once again, it goes back to a selfish, self serving community that one wants to fuel their own agenda and let the rest of the game rot by the wayside...
Priorities, man.
At least threads like these get a dev response (albeit not the correct one IMO). The devs themselves remain mum with respect to the glaring problems of the game that need their attention.
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IVIaster LUKE
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:49:00 -
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That's one handsome woman. ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
"If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle".
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
201
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:51:00 -
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8213 wrote:Wow, this thread jumped to 8 pages already?
Can someone tell me why this sh*t matters in a game that's beyond broken right now?
Once again, it goes back to a selfish, self serving community that one wants to fuel their own agenda and let the rest of the game rot by the wayside...
The devs seem more opt to quickly correct the female mercs' hip sway than add new game modes or racial dropsuits. We are just driven to discuss was the devs are willing to talk to us about.
Kind of sad really...
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
789
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:55:00 -
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8213 wrote:Wow, this thread jumped to 8 pages already?
Can someone tell me why this sh*t matters in a game that's beyond broken right now?
Once again, it goes back to a selfish, self serving community that one wants to fuel their own agenda and let the rest of the game rot by the wayside...
its probably some fat ugly troll or a dude pretending to be an offended chick. Even if it wasn't the case, that's my initial impression and I don't care enough to change it.
to the op, does it really matter. I think you just want attention. We are not even in the war barge most matches. Stop ruining other peoples fun. Really does how women are perceived in games bother you? Maybe developers should design games with overweight sweaty bearded hogs. Perhaps that would make you feel more comfortable |
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
4070
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:55:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. Yeah, having older animations get pulled into a patch sucks ass. Had that happen more than once, myself.
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Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
276
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:33:00 -
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http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/dec/04/male-female-brains-real-differences
Finally some science to back up what most people know. |
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
445
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:45:00 -
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I Feel like the Pied Piper with those hips on the MCC leading a group of men merc's around the war table.~ |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1719
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:48:00 -
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Jungian wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/dec/04/male-female-brains-real-differences
Finally some science to back up what most people know.
That's just pure trash from a paper.
The differences hormones play on our psyche and physique are undeniable, its what makes us male and female.
Are you a hippy carebear? Theres nothing sexist about differences in male and females, discrimination over sex is sexist lol and there is none of that here.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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lee corwood
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
26
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:51:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Not sure about you but I rarely see any warbarge time (maybe a second or two but nothing fashion show worthy). So the only time I get to see my merc walk is in the privacy of my merc HQ - at which point, does it really matter if she has a smexy walk?
I mostly wanted to point out that I also see almost no warbarge time. used to be a constant, now, I rarely even see it flash before I'm asked to deploy on map. Was the intention of the match maker supposed to get rid of the warbarge?
Minmatar Logisis
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Fitznasty
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:58:00 -
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Switch it for a week or so. I'm sure you'll receive feedback from male(r) players complaining that their walk isn't manly enough. That'll give you an idea of who the walk is for to begin with.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1719
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:00:00 -
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Ccp keep the a$$ and hips shake of female avatars, if you remove that then you may as well make the male models short and shrimpy right? Because heaven forbid they walk like men, that would just be sexist.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1719
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:04:00 -
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In fact let's be real carebears about it.
We could give the males the female walk and the females the male walk, wouldn't that just totally be hippy politically correct ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Twelve Guage
Death Firm.
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:22:00 -
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Please leave the walk alone. I love the way we walk now I do not want to walk like I got stick up my ass.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
447
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:46:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Not sure about you but I rarely see any warbarge time (maybe a second or two but nothing fashion show worthy). So the only time I get to see my merc walk is in the privacy of my merc HQ - at which point, does it really matter if she has a smexy walk? I mostly wanted to point out that I also see almost no warbarge time. used to be a constant, now, I rarely even see it flash before I'm asked to deploy on map. Was the intention of the match maker supposed to get rid of the warbarge?
Yes the developers have been quoted saying they removed warbarge time from normal public matches. Something along the lines that they noticed they spent a lot of time on it when playing in the office with each other. |
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Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
277
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:29:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:That's just pure trash from a paper.
Level 1 forum warrior, indeed.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:35:00 -
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I honestly have no stake in this (people who know me understand) but I don't see anything wrong with the old walk. You want to see exploitation, check out Dragon's Crown. Dat Amazon.![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
375
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Posted - 2013.12.13 01:54:00 -
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the ass is op nerf dat ass
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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