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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:

For those delusional social justice warriors who think women can compete at the level a man can, here's a fun little story about the two most dominant female athletes ever facing off against a man

"During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38). Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily." Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun"

Nice try, tumblr kiddies.


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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4129	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:59:00 - [1] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: yeah this is the old walk they removed becuase player feedback said it was like they had high heels on. I don't see the problem. Many of us - male and female - DO have high heels on. Make the walk based on your Dropsuit. Flat boots have a more "modest" or "manly" walk, and the high heels on Gallente suits give you a bit of hip sway. And while yes, there should be minor differences between genders, male and female walking in heels isn't that different.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4130	Posted - 2013.12.12 04:08:00 - [2] - Quote I've posted a sensible comment earlier in the thread with my thoughts on the topic. But now, i feel like something less serious. If you take sexism seriously, do NOT read on. I don't take ME seriously, let alone anything else... Tell me more about how sexist this game is...
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4133	Posted - 2013.12.12 06:57:00 - [3] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: A very good and simple example is sport, would you think it fair to mix up sport so males and females compete side by side? Try watching the females football world cup ( soccer) and tell me they are as good as men, they have the same intense training. Sexist? Certainly not, its reality. So what you're saying is that, BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF TRAINING, female sports teams don't perform on the level of male teams? And that somehow proves... what, exactly? Women's sports, particularly the women's teams in traditionally male-oriented sports, are under-funded. As such, the sportswomen involved can't live as sporting professionals without a second job. Because of that lack of freedom to live a permanent training regimen like the men experience, they are often less skilled and less physically fit. Ever watched a men's Netball game? The difference looking from men's netball to women's is similar to your example, though not as extreme. There's a tendency for male netball players to perform on a less competitive level from the female players, because the male side of that sport isn't funded as well, isn't as popular, and doesn't attract as many highly-skilled athletes of that gender. Why? Because we still have long-running stereotypes associating some sports with men, and others with women. If you put two teams into a competitive sport, regardless of gender, the better-trained team will ALWAYS have the advantage. A men's Netball team usually loses to women because the men don't have as strict training, or as much experience as the women. A men's soccer team usually wins against women because they have the better training and more experience with the sport than the women. Neither of those observable facts proves that either gender is naturally better at sports, and claiming so is sexism through ignorance. A typical female body is smaller than a male. Women are, as a general rule, faster and more flexible than EQUALLY FIT males, but the man will have a greater amount of direct strength, and a lower centre of gravity, which gives an advantage in many scenarios. For most team sports, a mixed male AND female team would actually be ideal, because there are certain roles in most team sports which suit each gender.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4135	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:35:00 - [4] - Quote The Furtive Pygmy wrote: For those delusional social justice warriors who think women can compete at the level a man can, here's a fun little story about the two most dominant female athletes ever facing off against a man "During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38). Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily." Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun" Nice try, tumblr kiddies. Using an example of a sport where balance (men have the advantage due to typically lower centre of gravity) and strength (men have the advantage here too) is a nice try. Even better when a large part of the argument against male dominance had been focused more on team sports and you deliberately chose an individual sport to "counter" the claims. Nice try, yourself.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4137	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:50:00 - [5] - Quote At which point exactly did I say that balance and strength don't matter in some sports? They always matter, but in many sports, there are OTHER factors that matter MORE, and particularly there are other factors that matter more for CERTAIN ROLES IN A TEAM. And your new example is disregarding the entire argument I made in the first "social justice warrior" post that I made. A huge part of the problem is the social conventions that make sport a less viable avenue for a woman to base her life around.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4139	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:24:00 - [6] - Quote The Furtive Pygmy wrote: Name one sport where strength and balance aren't integral parts of the game Women cannot compete on the same level as men in sports, I have evidence to support it, and you cannot show me one instance of a woman being successful in any men's sport I said there are sports where other elements are important. I didn't say that strength and balance aren't integral. And saying "men's sport" in that context is your admission that there ARE sports women are better at than men. Thanks for finally recognising my point.