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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:

HyperionsThunder wrote:

Um, I'm sorry, but science proves that women walk exactly like that:

http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html

that's a really cool website, I'm going to keep messing around with it.

but I think it's important to note that the walking on the sliders at each ends are exactly that: extremes on a spectrum. People walk in many different ways and the vast majority of people walk somewhere in between and it is really rare to find people on the extremes. I don't know any guys that walk the way the figure does when the slider is all the way to the left. That also seems strange to me.

I don't want a manly walk, but I don't want an extremely exaggerated one either. You can have a sexy walk about 3/4 of the way to the right and that is what it used to be. I think it's cool that a woman can look sexy, and they should look sexy in a video game because video games are wish-fulfillment. But when CCP tries hard to create a gritty, realistic sci-fi epic setting with mercenaries and clones dying left and right, seeing such an exaggerated walk takes you out of it. It seems like a caricature because everything else, the art direction, the world setting, is at odds with it.

Sorry to make such a huge deal about this, I really didn't want to and when I started the thread I didn't think there would be so many replies but I really like Dust 514, and well, this was something I didn't like. Sorry if I made anyone upset.

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Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 96	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:26:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!!
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 876	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote This is actually the "old" walk. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5825	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:28:00 - [3] - Quote Don't you get it? Those hypnotic hips gave you the power to hypnotize men and make them do your bidding. I thought you girls like that kind of stuff. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 847	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:29:00 - [4] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!! Most people want to walk like that, a few, very few, want to walk like manly menly* womanz. *(made up words) Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
Dust Project 514 Care Bear Cub 295	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:29:00 - [5] - Quote Sounds like sexism to me. Gives the girls the tramp march, while the men are just casual.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 779	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:31:00 - [6] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!! Um.. you know the male toons have the same walk now too right? I shot a man in Black Rise onceGÇª Just to watch him die
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5825	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:33:00 - [7] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: Sounds like sexism to me. Gives the girls the tramp march, while the men are just casual. You want to see sexism? Here you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3yJc96SlQM OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 96	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:35:00 - [8] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!! Um.. you know the male toons have the same walk now too right? the guy's walk is very different. I'm not saying I want a "manly" walk. I just don't want such a flirty one. Hips swaying is normal, but this isn't. Create an alt (caldari and gallente seem to be more susceptible to this animation) and watch her walk around her room. It's not normal and like I said before, the first thing that pops into my head is either a runway model or a mom power walking. Not exactly the impression I want to make as a mercenary.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 3998	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:40:00 - [9] - Quote Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 527	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:42:00 - [10] - Quote Nerfing the female walk already? SMH...

Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 97	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:43:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. thank you so much. I was really disappointed when I found out, but if it's a glitch then I'm really happy it will go back to the way it was before.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4977	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:43:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. They came to their senses is what happened. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 182	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:45:00 - [13] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!! Thanks for ruining probably the crowning achievement of 1.7 "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Enkidu Camuel Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 138	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:47:00 - [14] - Quote I love to see the old walking animation, it's a shame that it's gonna be something temporal... but I say that the female walk animation should be more... feminine, the animation in 1.6 was good yet a little bit too manly. Major DUST fact.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 527	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:47:00 - [15] - Quote Yeah. I've lost my incentive to log in daily now.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 779	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:48:00 - [16] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!! Um.. you know the male toons have the same walk now too right? the guy's walk is very different. I'm not saying I want a "manly" walk. I just don't want such a flirty one. Hips swaying is normal, but this isn't. Create an alt (caldari and gallente seem to be more susceptible to this animation) and watch her walk around her room. It's not normal and like I said before, the first thing that pops into my head is either a runway model or a mom power walking. Not exactly the impression I want to make as a mercenary. I just wanted to see the guys log in and check And the walk before the patch was good. I shot a man in Black Rise onceGÇª Just to watch him die
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 207	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:49:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. Ccp dev, "Heh, check out walk animation #6 - that's pretty sexy, I bet those neckbeards will love this." There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 221	Posted - 2013.12.11 19:53:00 - [18] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!! LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng49mpzdWyo Try that out for size... ;)
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 157	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:03:00 - [19] - Quote Um, I'm sorry, but science proves that women walk exactly like that: http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html Common sense will prevail. Adapt or die.
Minstrum Ridcully KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:14:00 - [20] - Quote Women are OP

Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 221	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:18:00 - [21] - Quote HyperionsThunder wrote: Um, I'm sorry, but science proves that women walk exactly like that: http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html Except that when CCP did some of their studies for Carbon, they probably hired models from the local modelling agency in Iceland (keep in mind that Miss World for 2005 was from Iceland at the time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_World_2005). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng49mpzdWyo
TheSprayNPray2 Fatal Absolution 242	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:25:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. leave the old walk my alt is a babe now
Lucrezia LeGrand Sentinels of New Eden 103	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:28:00 - [23] - Quote HyperionsThunder wrote: Um, I'm sorry, but science proves that women walk exactly like that: http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html that's a really cool website, I'm going to keep messing around with it. but I think it's important to note that the walking on the sliders at each ends are exactly that: extremes on a spectrum. People walk in many different ways and the vast majority of people walk somewhere in between and it is really rare to find people on the extremes. I don't know any guys that walk the way the figure does when the slider is all the way to the left. That also seems strange to me. I don't want a manly walk, but I don't want an extremely exaggerated one either. You can have a sexy walk about 3/4 of the way to the right and that is what it used to be. I think it's cool that a woman can look sexy, and they should look sexy in a video game because video games are wish-fulfillment. But when CCP tries hard to create a gritty, realistic sci-fi epic setting with mercenaries and clones dying left and right, seeing such an exaggerated walk takes you out of it. It seems like a caricature because everything else, the art direction, the world setting, is at odds with it. Sorry to make such a huge deal about this, I really didn't want to and when I started the thread I didn't think there would be so many replies but I really like Dust 514, and well, this was something I didn't like. Sorry if I made anyone upset.
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 204	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:35:00 - [24] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!! Haha I noticed it too. I was like :0 that's new. She's switching extra hard. Giving Tyra Banks a run for her money.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 782	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:38:00 - [25] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: HyperionsThunder wrote: Um, I'm sorry, but science proves that women walk exactly like that: http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html that's a really cool website, I'm going to keep messing around with it. but I think it's important to note that the walking on the sliders at each ends are exactly that: extremes on a spectrum. People walk in many different ways and the vast majority of people walk somewhere in between and it is really rare to find people on the extremes. I don't know any guys that walk the way the figure does when the slider is all the way to the left. That also seems strange to me. I don't want a manly walk, but I don't want an extremely exaggerated one either. You can have a sexy walk about 3/4 of the way to the right and that is what it used to be. I think it's cool that a woman can look sexy, and they should look sexy in a video game because video games are wish-fulfillment. But when CCP tries hard to create a gritty, realistic sci-fi epic setting with mercenaries and clones dying left and right, seeing such an exaggerated walk takes you out of it. It seems like a caricature because everything else, the art direction, the world setting, is at odds with it. Sorry to make such a huge deal about this, I really didn't want to and when I started the thread I didn't think there would be so many replies but I really like Dust 514, and well, this was something I didn't like. Sorry if I made anyone upset. The funny thing is that the way people walk is influenced by many factors and are not universal across gender, culture, size or ageGÇª so it is annoying the way a stereotype can pop up in a video game and change the experience for some people. Also that site is neat, but does not account for so many variables, part of our motion is dictated by biology, emotional state, but also social influences on what is an acceptable way to move within our respective culture, so it is overlooking that variable. Personally I am glad that you brought it up, and that you expressed your feelings about this mechanic, in a very respectful way. Also gives the opportunity to bring up more MMO goodness, like different animation options for charactersGÇª ones we can chose to give our mercs a bit more individuality. I shot a man in Black Rise onceGÇª Just to watch him die
Enkidu Camuel Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 139	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:38:00 - [26] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: I don't want a manly walk, but I don't want an extremely exaggerated one either. You can have a sexy walk about 3/4 of the way to the right and that is what it used to be. I think it's cool that a woman can look sexy, and they should look sexy in a video game because video games are wish-fulfillment. But when CCP tries hard to create a gritty, realistic sci-fi epic setting with mercenaries and clones dying left and right, seeing such an exaggerated walk takes you out of it. It seems like a caricature because everything else, the art direction, the world setting, is at odds with it. [/quote] You do realize that we're still inside the Eve universe right? our mercs are disposable clones of a main clone, just like the Eve pilots, the mercs have a life outside the battlefield so it's almost a fact to think that the female mercs are more feminines in their "real lifes" Major DUST fact.
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 666	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:41:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. NOOOOOOO! Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot.
Oswald Rehnquist 856	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:49:00 - [28] - Quote HyperionsThunder wrote: Um, I'm sorry, but science proves that women walk exactly like that: http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html Its dependent on waist to hip ratio, a larger pelvis means the center of mass is lower with those with lower waist to hip ratios. So if the female is a literal stick her hips won't move, if she has shape the hip movement will be more pronounced (and I apologize if your linked already explained this) Keeping the animation in or not is small but if it protects CCP from litigation or claims from sexism, then that's less stress down the road. But what I don't understand is why people aren't up in arms about the chest plates considering that any amount of armor usually undefines the area (BBC soldier article), Below 28 dB
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4162	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:53:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Looks like you're getting the old walking animation that we changed for exactly the reasons you pointed out. I'll poke some people and find out what's happened. Interesting we get a dev reply about this and still 0 words on the hMG fix that has multiply threads daily
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 291	Posted - 2013.12.11 20:55:00 - [30] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Everyone is complaining about TTK, hit detection, OP weapons and OP vehicles... but has anyone noticed the new walking animation for female clones? What the heck, CCP? I do NOT want to be flaunting my butt whenever I walk around my room or war barge. I want to strut like I own the place because I'm a mercenary of New Eden not some adult host from the Gallante pleasure quarters. --_-- I didn't die 100 times on some god-forsaken planet to have hypnotically swaying hips. Women do not walk that way unless they are modeling a dress down a runway or happen to be moms "power walking." Make female clones walk normal!! Or you could like try and find the kitchen in the Warbarge and make the rest of us some sammiches for after the match...



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