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mollerz Minja Scouts 1196	Posted - 2013.12.07 21:53:00 - [1] - Quote because SCR. #shittycoding
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5907	Posted - 2013.12.07 21:53:00 - [2] - Quote **** no. Actually, let's restore the TAR whilst we're at it. And the Calogi. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1499	Posted - 2013.12.07 21:54:00 - [3] - Quote Please? (+1) Cheeseburgers.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1196	Posted - 2013.12.07 21:57:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: **** no. Actually, let's restore the TAR whilst we're at it. And the Calogi. I'd consider a prenerf core flaylock to be a fair fight in an advanced minja suit vs a Gal Logi Auto Aim slayer with a proto SCR. Am I wrong? #shittycoding
Rogue Saint Science For Death 582	Posted - 2013.12.07 21:57:00 - [5] - Quote The FP is in a good place at the moment. The scrubs don't use it because its not OP, and the players that actually stuck with it have the skill to use it. Was gunna say more, but that sums it up. Leave the FP alone. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
Ghost Kaisar THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED 981	Posted - 2013.12.07 21:58:00 - [6] - Quote How about we settle for making the weapons useful. I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf. Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Suanar Daranaus Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 82	Posted - 2013.12.07 21:58:00 - [7] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: **** no. Actually, let's restore the TAR whilst we're at it. And the Calogi. No, The Cal/Gal already have WAAAY too many neat toys.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2024	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:00:00 - [8] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: How about we settle for making the weapons useful. I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf. Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. Scrambler pistol does more damage to armor than a flaylock in a clip and a pistol does -20% to armor. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Rogue Saint Science For Death 582	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:01:00 - [9] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: How about we settle for making the weapons useful. I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf. Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. It's a side arm, by rights the others should be the same. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
mollerz Minja Scouts 1201	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:01:00 - [10] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: How about we settle for making the weapons useful. I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf. Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. Nah. Bring it back to the prenerf intact. They have auto aim, I get splash. #shittycoding

Llast 326 An Arkhos 701	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:02:00 - [11] - Quote mollerz wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: How about we settle for making the weapons useful. I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf. Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. Nah. Bring it back to the prenerf intact. They have auto aim, I get splash. I shot a man in Black Rise onceGÇª Just to watch him die
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2024	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:03:00 - [12] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: How about we settle for making the weapons useful. I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf. Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. It's a side arm, by rights the others should be the same. But it isn't. It's the most underpowered side arm. I would know. I have all of them proto. Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. I don't want a ridiculously strong pistol. I just want to be able to kill someone with it if I need to not hope they're injured so I have a chance. Even at max proficiency it will still be weak in comparison to every other side arm at max proficiency. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Tectonic Fusion 672	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:05:00 - [13] - Quote I use to think the Scrambler Rifle was OP like you... Then I used the Assault Rifle. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
mollerz Minja Scouts 1201	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:10:00 - [14] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I use to think the Scrambler Rifle was OP like you... Then I used the Assault Rifle. Maybe it is because I run minja- but an SCR is basically insta kill. I can usually take 3 hits from a duvolle. I know because I f I can someone get away after the second I am usually 0/0 aka struttin in my g strang on the battlefield yo! Proto SCR I think I hear the first round and death screen. **** anything past the first round is a waste of ammo. #shittycoding
Ghost Kaisar THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED 983	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:14:00 - [15] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: How about we settle for making the weapons useful. I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf. Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. It's a side arm, by rights the others should be the same. SIGH. The standard answer for sidearms. What separates a sidearm from a primary SHOULDN'T be damage. It's the ability to engage MULTIPLE TARGETS. For example: The AR. Damage is great. Drops targets well, and it gets a 60 round clip. This allows you to engage multiple opponents and deal solid damage to each. Take the Scrambler Pistol (the example of an EXCELLENT sidearm). Damage is great. Drops targets well, but only has an 11 round clip. This allows you to engage 1-2 targets before having to reload, making it a last resort weapon or a finisher (where you don't need to take on more than 1-2 targets.) Scrambler Pistols make excellent weapons for scouts because of their relatively low fitting cost, and the fact that they can drop 1-2 targets rapidly. Since most are short range, we can utilize them to their full effectiveness, and the low ammo count doesn't really bother us, since most of us can actually retreat to resupply in between flanks. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Ghost Kaisar THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED 983	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:17:00 - [16] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: How about we settle for making the weapons useful. I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf. Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. It's a side arm, by rights the others should be the same. But it isn't. It's the most underpowered side arm. I would know. I have all of them proto. Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. I don't want a ridiculously strong pistol. I just want to be able to kill someone with it if I need to not hope they're injured so I have a chance. Even at max proficiency it will still be weak in comparison to every other side arm at max proficiency. The only good thing about the flaylock is that it will destroy injured armor tanks in no time flat. The fact that you can deal 400+ armor damage in two rounds is the only reason why I run it. Still, you can't take on any target above ADV in a single clip, which every other sidearm can do (ScP, SMG). So, I will repeat myself. Keep the nerf to splash and ROF. Make the damage ungodly. This makes it a true "Skill shot" weapon, which trades difficulty of use for insane DPS. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Rogue Saint Science For Death 583	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:18:00 - [17] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. Thats my point, the others should be brought inline with the FP... OMG Heresy!! I called for a nerf to all other side arms OMG!! No, I mean, side arms are just that, and shouldn't be used primary... Heresy!! The FP is an awesome follow up weapon. What a side arm should be. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 4005	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:18:00 - [18] - Quote mollerz wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: **** no. Actually, let's restore the TAR whilst we're at it. And the Calogi. I'd consider a prenerf core flaylock to be a fair fight in an advanced minja suit vs a Gal Logi Auto Aim slayer with a proto SCR. Am I wrong? Man, wrong don't even begin to describe you. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Ruthless Lee The Eliminators 125	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:34:00 - [19] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. Thats my point, the others should be brought inline with the FP... OMG Heresy!! I called for a nerf to all other side arms OMG!! No, I mean, side arms are just that, and shouldn't be used primary... Heresy!! The FP is an awesome follow up weapon. What a side arm should be. This forum needs a "dislike" button.
Ghost Kaisar THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED 986	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:35:00 - [20] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. Thats my point, the others should be brought inline with the FP... OMG Heresy!! I called for a nerf to all other side arms OMG!! No, I mean, side arms are just that, and shouldn't be used primary... Heresy!! The FP is an awesome follow up weapon. What a side arm should be. NOPE. Read my above post. What separates Sidearms from Primaries isn't killing power. It's the ability to engage multiple targets. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu

Rogue Saint Science For Death 584	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:41:00 - [21] - Quote Ruthless Lee wrote: This forum needs a "dislike" button. Learn to use the FP and quit being a biatch. Ghost Kaisar wrote: What separates Sidearms from Primaries isn't killing power. It's the ability to engage multiple targets. Two words, clip size. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 291	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:43:00 - [22] - Quote The Flaylock is a great utility weapon right now, more so when they add the 4 different kinds of missiles (Mjolnir, Inferno, Scourge and Nova) [SoonGäó] I never intended to use it as a primary weapon back in January when I spec'd into it so the nerf didn't affect me one bit.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5910	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:46:00 - [23] - Quote Does it genuinely not occur to you that it would be better to change the Gallogi/SCR? Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
mollerz Minja Scouts 1210	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:50:00 - [24] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: mollerz wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: **** no. Actually, let's restore the TAR whilst we're at it. And the Calogi. I'd consider a prenerf core flaylock to be a fair fight in an advanced minja suit vs a Gal Logi Auto Aim slayer with a proto SCR. Am I wrong? Man, wrong don't even begin to describe you. Thanks man! #shittycoding
mollerz Minja Scouts 1210	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:52:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Does it genuinely not occur to you that it would be better to change the Gallogi/SCR? No, as scout the nerfing thing is doing nothing but harm. Let's just start buffing the ** out of everything. Plus, ** this noise about asking for a small buff. Go big or go home. #shittycoding
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2028	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:56:00 - [26] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. Thats my point, the others should be brought inline with the FP... OMG Heresy!! I called for a nerf to all other side arms OMG!! No, I mean, side arms are just that, and shouldn't be used primary... Heresy!! The FP is an awesome follow up weapon. What a side arm should be. Let me ask you a question: What good is a weapon that cannot kill reliably? Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5912	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:57:00 - [27] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. Thats my point, the others should be brought inline with the FP... OMG Heresy!! I called for a nerf to all other side arms OMG!! No, I mean, side arms are just that, and shouldn't be used primary... Heresy!! The FP is an awesome follow up weapon. What a side arm should be. Let me ask you a question: What good is a weapon that cannot kill reliably? It's... uh... good for... um. Making pretty explosions? Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 107	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:57:00 - [28] - Quote restore the flaylock, and the TAR? http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/ Me and my inner demons stopped fighting......We are on the same side now...
mollerz Minja Scouts 1210	Posted - 2013.12.07 22:59:00 - [29] - Quote I don't know if I should make a separate thread about this, but can we also reinstate the prenerf compact nano? #shittycoding
Rogue Saint Science For Death 585	Posted - 2013.12.07 23:04:00 - [30] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Let me ask you a question: What good is a weapon that cannot kill reliably? Erm, are you talking of personal experience? If so, then all I can say is get better with using it... Its not my primary, it my guardian angel. If you expecting it to be a primary you are doing it wrong. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]



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