Maybe it is because I run minja- but an SCR is basically insta kill. I can usually take 3 hits from a duvolle. I know because if I can somehow get away after the second shot I am usually 0/0 aka struttin in my g strang on the battlefield yo!

Proto SCR I think I hear the first round and death screen. **** anything past the first round is a waste of ammo.

NOPE.

Read my above post.

What separates Sidearms from Primaries isn't killing power. It's the ability to engage multiple targets.

SCRs are great when you are one on one with someone.... But in a group melee crap fest, the AR will always reign supreme.

When the TAR needed nerfing, EVERYONE was using them. The SCR is not nearly as common as ARs in kill feeds currently, so I am arguing it ain't overpowered, just EXCELLENT situationally one on one.

Also range

To my mind a sidearm is a perfectly viable weapon in its own right and capable of operating on its own. What separates it from standard weapons is drawbacks like range and damage dropoff.

The idea is that your main weapon is running low and you have a backup that's entirely capable of taking out enemies, but only on its terms. The flaylock struggles to take out even totally immobile / otherwise distracted targets at point blank range, even then only militia or basic suits will go down. Adv or above just forget it, you have to reload way too many times.

You may even argue that it is at least capable of mild AV, but lets face it, other than laughable moments destroying bog standard Sica's with the aid of Flux's its useless in that regard also.

Ok I can't comment on total power or radius since I don't have it to proto yet but what I can say its a weapon that doesn't tier well at all. I can get decent kills with a militia scrambler pistol much easier than the weapon that takes the most SP in Sidearm Operation in the game to unlock. The standard is pathetic. The breach is very powerful but fires so slowly I can't see any conceivable use for it.

Honestly does that sound right to you?

Erm, are you talking of personal experience? If so, then all I can say is get better with using it... Its not my primary, it my guardian angel.

If you expecting it to be a primary you are doing it wrong.

Erm, are you talking of personal experience? If so, then all I can say is get better with using it... Its not my primary, it my guardian angel.

If you expecting it to be a primary you are doing it wrong.

So, lets get this straight this single weapon in the entire game should not be able to kill just as any other weapon does because you yourself find it to fit your fancy?

People don't use this weapon anymore because every other side arm is better than it.

For it being a skill shot weapon it does pitiful direct damage. You can't really argue numbers. You can't say the splash makes up for how weak it is because it practically has zero splash. It's actually almost harder to hit someone with the splash than it is to just direct shot them.

Flaylock. It's so good after the nerf, it doesn't need to be good.

This dude trolling so hard we're gonna have to hot drop a bridge on him.

Ewww.

I use it sometimes and it's not tragically bad, just UnderPowered.

Maybe a slight to dmg or a really slight buff to radius.

One or the other, not both.

Thats my point, the others should be brought inline with the FP... OMG Heresy!! I called for a nerf to all other side arms OMG!!

No, I mean, side arms are just that, and shouldn't be used primary... Heresy!!

The FP is an awesome follow up weapon. What a side arm should be.

IT BEGINS!

Sinboto Simmons, dude, sure I'm slightly inebriated while commenting here, but I'm certainly not trolling.

I have some respect for you, how about a little of the same?

nope! Sorry shutterfly. I went all out on FPs off jump. Same as I will withthe combat rifle.


My IshLock Minja (ADV min scout with core flaylock/ishnok knives) was OP only because I could reliably kill like a champ with that combo.

I would also even go so far as to say that combo with a flux you are a true CQC ninja.

it's not like the flaylock has AR/SCR range by any means.

I just can't accept that the FP wasn't OP after seeing the complete cluster**** PC became during that time.

Yeah, it isn't that crazy on a Minja, but when it's a battle full of CalLogis, Cal Assaults, and Min Assaults carrying them, things get insane.

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I just can't accept that the FP wasn't OP after seeing the complete cluster**** PC became during that time.

Yeah, it isn't that crazy on a Minja, but when it's a battle full of CalLogis, Cal Assaults, and Min Assaults carrying them, things get insane.

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Yup. Once again, F scout players. everything has to depend on the logi apex, eh?

The scram rifle isnt op what makes it op is the ability to raise its damage so much...prof5 is already 15% more then just stack complex even more damage...maybe get rid of the prof bonus +3% damage and give it something else..then it will become a choice between more damage or more health..atm its just do I want overkill or more health?..Everyone chooses overkill...this goes for ARs as well..the guns are not OP just that you have the ability to raise the damage drastically without sacrificing much....the flaylock that was OP didnt even have to aim much just splash damage the crap out of everyone and your good

because QQ

fixed*

Don't get me wrong, I'm a scout as well. I just think they should buff the scout suits, and nerf the logis. Giving the FP too huge of a buff is just an indirect solution to the real problem.