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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:58:00 -
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How about we settle for making the weapons useful.
I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf.
Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:14:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:How about we settle for making the weapons useful.
I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf.
Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. It's a side arm, by rights the others should be the same.
SIGH.
The standard answer for sidearms.
What separates a sidearm from a primary SHOULDN'T be damage.
It's the ability to engage MULTIPLE TARGETS.
For example: The AR.
Damage is great. Drops targets well, and it gets a 60 round clip. This allows you to engage multiple opponents and deal solid damage to each.
Take the Scrambler Pistol (the example of an EXCELLENT sidearm).
Damage is great. Drops targets well, but only has an 11 round clip. This allows you to engage 1-2 targets before having to reload, making it a last resort weapon or a finisher (where you don't need to take on more than 1-2 targets.)
Scrambler Pistols make excellent weapons for scouts because of their relatively low fitting cost, and the fact that they can drop 1-2 targets rapidly. Since most are short range, we can utilize them to their full effectiveness, and the low ammo count doesn't really bother us, since most of us can actually retreat to resupply in between flanks.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:17:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:How about we settle for making the weapons useful.
I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf.
Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. It's a side arm, by rights the others should be the same. But it isn't. It's the most underpowered side arm. I would know. I have all of them proto. Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. I don't want a ridiculously strong pistol. I just want to be able to kill someone with it if I need to not hope they're injured so I have a chance. Even at max proficiency it will still be weak in comparison to every other side arm at max proficiency.
The only good thing about the flaylock is that it will destroy injured armor tanks in no time flat. The fact that you can deal 400+ armor damage in two rounds is the only reason why I run it.
Still, you can't take on any target above ADV in a single clip, which every other sidearm can do (ScP, SMG).
So, I will repeat myself.
Keep the nerf to splash and ROF.
Make the damage ungodly. This makes it a true "Skill shot" weapon, which trades difficulty of use for insane DPS.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:35:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. Thats my point, the others should be brought inline with the FP... OMG Heresy!! I called for a nerf to all other side arms OMG!! No, I mean, side arms are just that, and shouldn't be used primary... Heresy!! The FP is an awesome follow up weapon. What a side arm should be.
NOPE.
Read my above post.
What separates Sidearms from Primaries isn't killing power. It's the ability to engage multiple targets.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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