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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2024
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:00:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:How about we settle for making the weapons useful.
I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf.
Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them.
Scrambler pistol does more damage to armor than a flaylock in a clip and a pistol does -20% to armor.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2024
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:03:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:How about we settle for making the weapons useful.
I would love to have the damage back, but keep the ROF nerf and Splash Nerf.
Hitting people isn't the problem with a Flaylock (for me), its killing them without having to empty two clips into them. It's a side arm, by rights the others should be the same.
But it isn't. It's the most underpowered side arm. I would know. I have all of them proto.
Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. I don't want a ridiculously strong pistol. I just want to be able to kill someone with it if I need to not hope they're injured so I have a chance. Even at max proficiency it will still be weak in comparison to every other side arm at max proficiency.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2028
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:56:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Every side arm can be run as a main and can kill people on their own except the flaylock. Thats my point, the others should be brought inline with the FP... OMG Heresy!! I called for a nerf to all other side arms OMG!! No, I mean, side arms are just that, and shouldn't be used primary... Heresy!! The FP is an awesome follow up weapon. What a side arm should be.
Let me ask you a question:
What good is a weapon that cannot kill reliably?
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2033
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Posted - 2013.12.07 23:52:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:
Let me ask you a question:
What good is a weapon that cannot kill reliably?
Erm, are you talking of personal experience? If so, then all I can say is get better with using it... Its not my primary, it my guardian angel. If you expecting it to be a primary you are doing it wrong.
Awe. Yeah I really should get gud. Knives? Pistols? Childsplay. Flaylock. Now that thing is really where the high skill is.
So, lets get this straight this single weapon in the entire game should not be able to kill just as any other weapon does because you yourself find it to fit your fancy?
People don't use this weapon anymore because every other side arm is better than it. For it being a skill shot weapon it does pitiful direct damage. You can't really argue numbers. You can't say the splash makes up for how weak it is because it practically has zero splash. It's actually almost harder to hit someone with the splash than it is to just direct shot them.
Flaylock. It's so good after the nerf, it doesn't need to be good.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2036
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Posted - 2013.12.08 00:55:00 -
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All I have to say is I'm glad you are not in charge of balancing Rogue or apparently I would have wasted about 5 million+ SP on weapons in my niche and another 5+ million on suits that have bonuses to side arms.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
2039
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:04:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:mollerz wrote:nope! Sorry shutterfly. I went all out on FPs off jump. Same as I will withthe combat rifle.
My IshLock Minja (ADV min scout with core flaylock/ishnok knives) was OP only because I could reliably kill like a champ with that combo.
I would also even go so far as to say that combo with a flux you are a true CQC ninja.
it's not like the flaylock has AR/SCR range by any means. I just can't accept that the FP wasn't OP after seeing the complete cluster**** PC became during that time. Yeah, it isn't that crazy on a Minja, but when it's a battle full of CalLogis, Cal Assaults, and Min Assaults carrying them, things get insane. EDIT: Don't want to get this deleted due to accidental profanity filter bypassing
ARs now can kill you just as fast/faster than a prenerf flaylock could. A lot of it had to do with hit detection back then.
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