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Ahrendee Public Relations Ahrendee PR 25	Posted - 2013.12.07 16:34:00 - [1] - Quote Recently Ahrendee Mercenaries has been taking over select districts on planet Oddelulf (commonly referred to as Planet Fight Club) in violation of the rules set forth for PFC. Today we explain to the community why we're doing it. RND was originally very much in favor of a planet where corporations that were newer and inexperienced could practice against other corporations of similar skill level and experience. And in the beginning, the manifestation seemed to follow the vision closely. In recent weeks and months, however, corporations that are neither new, nor inexperienced, have been holding districts on PFC as a way to generate ISK without any fear of losing the district itself. UPS is the most recent of these corporations we feel don't belong on Oddelulf for one very important reason: they have too much Dust and PC experience to be there. As a corporation they (and other veteran corporations on PFC) have done more to damage the integrity and reputation of Planet Fight Club by farming ISK and making a mockery of the battles than we could ever do merely by taking over their district. The first battle with UPS simply reinforced our belief that without any fear of losing districts, corporations on PFC are not getting legitimate Planetary Conquest training nor are they treating the battles with anything approaching respect. This is the highest competitive level in Dust and with nothing at risk, there's little reason to put in any true effort. If the threat of losing a district is removed, battles are not going to be up to the standard of normal PC and ultimately do more harm than good to corporations training there. To veteran corporations on PFC: You are no longer safe.
DJINN Rampage Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 906	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:18:00 - [2] - Quote cool story bro GÿúLevel 1 Forum WarriorGÖô GÿáTemplar of the Exiled.GäóGÖå Gÿå GÖí.GÖí Gÿ» Gÿ« ... Who Gives A Flux
General John Ripper Pradox One Proficiency V. 5738	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:50:00 - [3] - Quote Pradox is still fielding our px16 members as training for them. If I or other pradox one members are in the battle, we are there to squad lead and teach new guys our tactics. If our pfc is not getting attacked, we are sure to send out our own attacks as we want to have as many training battles as we can handle. I like tacos more than Cat Merc likes tuna.
Norbit1996 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 7	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:52:00 - [4] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: cool story bro I thoroughly enjoyed that story aswell! :D
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 367	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:15:00 - [5] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Pradox is still fielding our px16 members as training for them. If I or other pradox one members are in the battle, we are there to squad lead and teach new guys our tactics. If our pfc is not getting attacked, we are sure to send out our own attacks as we want to have as many training battles as we can handle. our next pfc fight is today vs the burgerz people. Going to raid their pfc and steal their sandwhiches and fries. why does an established corp have a PFC district. Whats wrong with using one of your 23 districts to practice with?
SoLJae SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 500	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:16:00 - [6] - Quote Hooray! There is finally someone willing to light the match and thin that welfare program out. I hope some of the larger corps back you guys up on this, if you face any type of retaliation that is. Good luck to ya! +1
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2159	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:23:00 - [7] - Quote It's true...some of the corps on PFC has been on there for how long now? Noone plays with the urgency and the heart because there is no risk of losing their district. You see guys in pc battles with advanced and std gear...or staying back trying not to lose any suits. I remember corps bringing 6 guys to the pc battle.. I mean, what sort of training is that? If corps want to train, then they need to venture out of pc. The only problem is that who are you going to attack? Only attainable districts belong to corps that new corps won't be able to beat and they have so many. Best thing would be if corps attack corps on their relative level. I believe in the Tier system that was being constructed before. But at the same time, how can you ask a corp to give up their districts if they don't want to. Or, ask fhem not to attack a certain corp if they want to. So, even in a system where the likes of Nyain San shouldn't attack a corp like dystopia...how can you ask them not to...and where does it stop? AE is better than everyone in MH, right? So, should they not launch attacks because they're going to roflstomp everyone? How can you ask them not to? It's really up to every corp to decide what they should do AND to consider if it benefits the longevity of Planetary Conquest. I don't have the solution but I do know that PFC is not doing anything but giving guys extremely friendly battles and are not gearing them for the real experience of pc. Many of them have no intent of venturing out of PFC either. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 871	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:24:00 - [8] - Quote xAckie wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Pradox is still fielding our px16 members as training for them. If I or other pradox one members are in the battle, we are there to squad lead and teach new guys our tactics. If our pfc is not getting attacked, we are sure to send out our own attacks as we want to have as many training battles as we can handle. our next pfc fight is today vs the burgerz people. Going to raid their pfc and steal their sandwhiches and fries. why does an established corp have a PFC district. Whats wrong with using one of your 23 districts to practice with? That's sort of my position on the subject. At first I was thinking maybe Academy or Training sections of larger, more successful corps would be okay for training purposes, but the problem is the main corporations guilty of the farming mentioned above will just make an Academy version and do the exact same thing as before. Training your guys is commendable but why do you need to be on PFC to do it? You can launch from one of your main districts and just bring in the players you want to train. That being said, the call isn't mine to make. "The unexamined life is not worth living." RNDclan.com
General John Ripper Pradox One Proficiency V. 5739	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:26:00 - [9] - Quote xAckie wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Pradox is still fielding our px16 members as training for them. If I or other pradox one members are in the battle, we are there to squad lead and teach new guys our tactics. If our pfc is not getting attacked, we are sure to send out our own attacks as we want to have as many training battles as we can handle. our next pfc fight is today vs the burgerz people. Going to raid their pfc and steal their sandwhiches and fries. why does an established corp have a PFC district. Whats wrong with using one of your 23 districts to practice with? Nothing is wrong with it. I actually do want older corps to move out of pfc. However it should be up to us to decide who to pass the torch to. We have already discussed this in our private chats and I am not at liberty yet to reveal any information as we have not come to a decision just yet. Until we decide what the future of our pfc district is going to be... Please do not attempt to flip our district. We would like to try and handle this ourselves. I like tacos more than Cat Merc likes tuna.
Ser Tarlon United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 66	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:27:00 - [10] - Quote 1. Corps who are smaller or not as experienced as us can attack us to see how those things are going, they'll get a challenge and if they ask, we will play to a certain dergree how they asked us to play. So that's good training on their side. 2. UPS too does have new members who need training and we often put them into PFC matches. Not against the big and known corps, we want to beat them, but against the unknown once. So, your arguments have truth in them, but they are a little bit onesided Black, Red - Strength, Dead Love bounties on my head

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2159	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:27:00 - [11] - Quote xAckie wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Pradox is still fielding our px16 members as training for them. If I or other pradox one members are in the battle, we are there to squad lead and teach new guys our tactics. If our pfc is not getting attacked, we are sure to send out our own attacks as we want to have as many training battles as we can handle. our next pfc fight is today vs the burgerz people. Going to raid their pfc and steal their sandwhiches and fries. why does an established corp have a PFC district. Whats wrong with using one of your 23 districts to practice with? I have much respect for Pradox and Mike Ruan....utmost respect. But I have to agree with Ackie, any established corp should run the risk of losing their district on PFC. I'm not suggesting that a corp gives up their Oddeldulf district if they don't want to....but it should be at risk because that corp could use one of their own districts to launch attacks and train new recruits. Especially one that's in an alliance because they can train vs each other. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2168	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:35:00 - [12] - Quote Ser Tarlon wrote: 1. Corps who are smaller or not as experienced as us can attack us to see how those things are going, they'll get a challenge and if they ask, we will play to a certain dergree how they asked us to play. So that's good training on their side. 2. UPS too does have new members who need training and we often put them into PFC matches. Not against the big and known corps, we want to beat them, but against the unknown once. So, your arguments have truth in them, but they are a little bit onesided Corps who are smaller can launch attacks anywhere in MH. They should pick and choose who they want to attack and go for it. If they are looking to attack vet corps, then they have a lot of choices out there besides PFC. Oddeldulf should really be an entry point into PC. New corps should be able to enter pc by beating any of the new corps on Oddeldulf. Because there is noone else that they can beat. An indie planet is the best way to allow corps to enter pc and allow it to thrive. Not this pfc business where there is no risk and vet corps are there. Let Oddeldulf be high sec and the vet corps in dust be Concord. Let the new corps police themselves. It's the only way. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2351	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:35:00 - [13] - Quote Regulating and policing oddeluf is a major time commitment. Get a grip on it and evict the squatter, and next thing get ridiculed for being a 'bully' Keep it simple. Make simple rules even illiterate rhesus monkeys with glaucoma in 1 eye can understand. Then enforce it. passive policing is what allowed PFC to get where it currently is Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
General John Ripper Pradox One Proficiency V. 5739	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:38:00 - [14] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: xAckie wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Pradox is still fielding our px16 members as training for them. If I or other pradox one members are in the battle, we are there to squad lead and teach new guys our tactics. If our pfc is not getting attacked, we are sure to send out our own attacks as we want to have as many training battles as we can handle. our next pfc fight is today vs the burgerz people. Going to raid their pfc and steal their sandwhiches and fries. why does an established corp have a PFC district. Whats wrong with using one of your 23 districts to practice with? I have much respect for Pradox and Mike Ruan....utmost respect. But I have to agree with Ackie, any established corp should run the risk of losing their district on PFC. I'm not suggesting that a corp gives up their Oddeldulf district if they don't want to....but it should be at risk because that corp could use one of their own districts to launch attacks and train new recruits. Especially one that's in an alliance because they can train vs each other. Thank you, for that. I do agree with you on several points. However all I ask is that you trust our judgement for now until we figure out what to do with it. We already have some idea on what we are going to do with it but the final negotiations have not been made yet. Pradox is a huge supporter of pfc and pfc has helped us out immensely. We still have pfc battles pretty much everyday and we will continue to have pfc battles even if we lose our pfc district. Pradox has helped several other corps get pfc districts in the past and we will want to continue to do what we can to help friends of pradox that we see with potential. I like tacos more than Cat Merc likes tuna.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2168	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:39:00 - [15] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Hooray! There is finally someone willing to light the match and thin that welfare program out. I hope some of the larger corps back you guys up on this, if you face any type of retaliation that is. Good luck to ya! +1 AE or whoever else is policing PFC should get on board and let the small corps battle each other with risk of losing their district. Vet corps should stay out of PFC.... weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2168	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:40:00 - [16] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: xAckie wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Pradox is still fielding our px16 members as training for them. If I or other pradox one members are in the battle, we are there to squad lead and teach new guys our tactics. If our pfc is not getting attacked, we are sure to send out our own attacks as we want to have as many training battles as we can handle. our next pfc fight is today vs the burgerz people. Going to raid their pfc and steal their sandwhiches and fries. why does an established corp have a PFC district. Whats wrong with using one of your 23 districts to practice with? I have much respect for Pradox and Mike Ruan....utmost respect. But I have to agree with Ackie, any established corp should run the risk of losing their district on PFC. I'm not suggesting that a corp gives up their Oddeldulf district if they don't want to....but it should be at risk because that corp could use one of their own districts to launch attacks and train new recruits. Especially one that's in an alliance because they can train vs each other. Thank you, for that. I do agree with you on several points. However all I ask is that you trust our judgement for now until we figure out what to do with it. We already have some idea on what we are going to do with it but the final negotiations have not been made yet. Pradox is a huge supporter of pfc and pfc has helped us out immensely. We still have pfc battles pretty much everyday and we will continue to have pfc battles even if we lose our pfc district. Pradox has helped several other corps get pfc districts in the past and we will want to continue to do what we can to help friends of pradox that we see with potential. we're really not on a mission to eradicate everyone off of PFC. We don't feel as if we're this powerful corp capable of doing so (and we aren't, quite frankly)...that has never been our position. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
General John Ripper Pradox One Proficiency V. 5739	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:44:00 - [17] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SoLJae wrote: Hooray! There is finally someone willing to light the match and thin that welfare program out. I hope some of the larger corps back you guys up on this, if you face any type of retaliation that is. Good luck to ya! +1 AE or whoever else is policing PFC should get on board and let the small corps battle each other with risk of losing their district. Vet corps should stay out of PFC.... I disagree with this. I was once told. "pfc? noobs vs noobs? pffft how are they supposed to get any better? " Fact is, people do not like to lose. Alot of corps havea habit of only fighting weaker or same level opponents. This will not improve their gungame. While I believe that smaller newer corps should have a pfc district to train their guys, I also believe that they should not get a false perception of pc by having it on easy mode. There needs to be incentive for stronger corps to attack pfc districts without flipping them. Also smaller corps might fear attacking larger corps because they are afraid of causing a war that they cannot handle. One solution is to have a couple of select corps there to actively attack everyone on pfc or be available to be attacked without fear by the smaller corporations. Pradox may still continue to fight pfc after we lose our pfc district but we wont be fielding an A team. We will be there to train our newer guys. I like tacos more than Cat Merc likes tuna.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2168	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:44:00 - [18] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Regulating and policing oddeluf is a major time commitment. Get a grip on it and evict the squatter, and next thing get ridiculed for being a 'bully' Keep it simple. Make simple rules even illiterate rhesus monkeys with glaucoma in 1 eye can understand. Then enforce it. passive policing is what allowed PFC to get where it currently is I think that the corps abused the original idea of PFC and what you guys were trying to do. It's just like giving guys a flaylock pistol and they just run with it. Making altbrard an indie planet was the best thing and should be Oddeldulf. It's great idea on all sides because if a new corp wanted entry into PC, they can attack one of the low tiered corps on Oddeldulf and gain entry if they're good enough. Because seriously, who will they attack with a clone pack to enter pc? AE? OH?...they will be smashed and most of the districts in pc belong to one of two alliances. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2168	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:47:00 - [19] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SoLJae wrote: Hooray! There is finally someone willing to light the match and thin that welfare program out. I hope some of the larger corps back you guys up on this, if you face any type of retaliation that is. Good luck to ya! +1 AE or whoever else is policing PFC should get on board and let the small corps battle each other with risk of losing their district. Vet corps should stay out of PFC.... I disagree with this. I was once told. "pfc? noobs vs noobs? pffft how are they supposed to get any better? " Fact is, people do not like to lose. Alot of corps havea habit of only fighting weaker or same level opponents. This will not improve their gungame. While I believe that smaller newer corps should have a pfc district to train their guys, I also believe that they should not get a false perception of pc by having it on easy mode. There needs to be incentive for stronger corps to attack pfc districts without flipping them. Also smaller corps might fear attacking larger corps because they are afraid of causing a war that they cannot handle. One solution is to have a couple of select corps there to actively attack everyone on pfc or be available to be attacked without fear by the smaller corporations. Pradox may still continue to fight pfc after we lose our pfc district but we wont be fielding an A team. We will be there to train our newer guys. If the said corp wants to get better, then they can launch an attack from Oddeldulf to some of the more established corps. Issue is, there needs to be risk of losing a district. That is the big deal. If a corp doesn't want to get better then they can keep playing corps that aren't better than they are but will never amount to much outside of Oddeldulf. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
DaddyKillsEmAll United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 142	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:52:00 - [20] - Quote Ahrendee Public Relations wrote: UPS is the most recent of these corporations we feel don't belong on Oddelulf for one very important reason: they have too much Dust and PC experience to be there. As a corporation they (and other veteran corporations on PFC) have done more to damage the integrity and reputation of Planet Fight Club by farming ISK lol if u think we are farming ISK...we have enough ;) UPS used this PFC district how it should been used. We had battles every week against new corps and also against vet corps. We always followed the rules. And we allways tried to play only with UPS members. Because we want to make sure, all of our members have the chance to play in a PC. There are a lot of other corps which are not using the PFC district correctly.... Have fun with the district...

Rich o United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 136	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:56:00 - [21] - Quote Oddelulf has 24 districts, on at least 12 of them i can see vet corps. Go ahead, whipe them all off. Should be no problem as many of them have at least 1 district outside of PFC. Show us that you are consistent. 2nd place in EU squad cup
Jade Tech TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 43	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:56:00 - [22] - Quote I agree with this entirely. PFC has gone to hell when it comes to respect. Most corporations there, like you say, barely serve the purpose of training in PC battles. The lack of command and commitment has made most of the smaller corporations go against the rules and just keep the district to themselves. While the bigger corporations may claim to use it as their "recruit training," and sometimes this is most likely true, they should not have to own a district in PFC to train them. Like thunderdome, get in contact with ally or enemy corporations they see fit as good competitors on their level of experience and ask them to do a practice PC battle with each other. It's that simple. I don't see how PFC is getting moderated well. AE has took command in TP's absence, and they are doing a fine job with keeping it under control, but they should be able to sniff out the sneaks who are slipping by and ignoring PFC's rules. I can't totally say they aren't doing this, but just as it is, I hope they can enforce the book as well as they play in PC. Go ahead and announce that you'll attack bigger corporations and smaller corporations farming money in PFC. I'm fine with that. And I agree that there is no place for higher end corporations due to the ability they have with their other district to set up practice battles with any other corporation in MH. PFC should be a place for starter corps, fielding a good 16-20 active players, who need to practice PC before they can take on any big names outside of the PFC planet. That is how it should be.
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3577	Posted - 2013.12.07 18:59:00 - [23] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Pradox is still fielding our px16 members as training for them. If I or other pradox one members are in the battle, we are there to squad lead and teach new guys our tactics. If our pfc is not getting attacked, we are sure to send out our own attacks as we want to have as many training battles as we can handle. our next pfc fight is today vs the burgerz people. Going to raid their pfc and steal their sandwhiches and fries. I cant be there. 04:00 EVE Time is too early for me. Buff Shotguns
General John Ripper Pradox One Proficiency V. 5740	Posted - 2013.12.07 19:11:00 - [24] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SoLJae wrote: Hooray! There is finally someone willing to light the match and thin that welfare program out. I hope some of the larger corps back you guys up on this, if you face any type of retaliation that is. Good luck to ya! +1 AE or whoever else is policing PFC should get on board and let the small corps battle each other with risk of losing their district. Vet corps should stay out of PFC.... I disagree with this. I was once told. "pfc? noobs vs noobs? pffft how are they supposed to get any better? " Fact is, people do not like to lose. Alot of corps havea habit of only fighting weaker or same level opponents. This will not improve their gungame. While I believe that smaller newer corps should have a pfc district to train their guys, I also believe that they should not get a false perception of pc by having it on easy mode. There needs to be incentive for stronger corps to attack pfc districts without flipping them. Also smaller corps might fear attacking larger corps because they are afraid of causing a war that they cannot handle. One solution is to have a couple of select corps there to actively attack everyone on pfc or be available to be attacked without fear by the smaller corporations. Pradox may still continue to fight pfc after we lose our pfc district but we wont be fielding an A team. We will be there to train our newer guys. If the said corp wants to get better, then they can launch an attack from Oddeldulf to some of the more established corps. Issue is, there needs to be risk of losing a district. That is the big deal. If a corp doesn't want to get better then they can keep playing corps that aren't better than they are but will never amount to much outside of Oddeldulf. one of the good things about pfc is that the districts generate clones, I have known smaller indie corps that have gone bankrupt trying to get into pc. I like tacos more than Cat Merc likes tuna.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2171	Posted - 2013.12.07 19:38:00 - [25] - Quote DaddyKillsEmAll wrote: Ahrendee Public Relations wrote: UPS is the most recent of these corporations we feel don't belong on Oddelulf for one very important reason: they have too much Dust and PC experience to be there. As a corporation they (and other veteran corporations on PFC) have done more to damage the integrity and reputation of Planet Fight Club by farming ISK lol if u think we are farming ISK...we have enough ;) UPS used this PFC district how it should been used. We had battles every week against new corps and also against vet corps. We always followed the rules. And we allways tried to play only with UPS members. Because we want to make sure, all of our members have the chance to play in a PC. There are a lot of other corps which are not using the PFC district correctly.... Have fun with the district... The thing is UPS has been around since the start of pc. From all of the ROFL wars, it's hard to believe UPS needs more training. We all have new players. I have 2 guys that I throw in our matches with under 4M sp. Do they get smoked? Absolutely ...but they get that real pc experience. I'm not saying you guys are isk farming...maybe you're just worried about attacking one of the major landowners. I get that but pfc shouldnt be a permanent home to corps like yours without the risk of loss. And we dont have plans to keep the district, btw. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 1889	Posted - 2013.12.07 19:41:00 - [26] - Quote about attacking big corps that are farming im suprised no one mentioned helstorm inc. ive seen them have maximum clones on that district for weeks at a time. no joke CEO Of MCDUSTDONALDS Corp Website: www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com ALL HAIL THE BALACS AR
Eugene Killmore Red Star. EoN. 192	Posted - 2013.12.07 19:46:00 - [27] - Quote Burn pfc to the ground dubs! it like the rest of molden heath is a big farm fest. How many months does a corp need to train for pc? 2 years? I mean the games almost dead the way i see it is if you are not ready to compete by now you will probably never be. Props to RND the last legit non blue donut corp left in the game <3 Happy holidays.
DaddyKillsEmAll United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 143	Posted - 2013.12.07 19:50:00 - [28] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: DaddyKillsEmAll wrote: Ahrendee Public Relations wrote: UPS is the most recent of these corporations we feel don't belong on Oddelulf for one very important reason: they have too much Dust and PC experience to be there. As a corporation they (and other veteran corporations on PFC) have done more to damage the integrity and reputation of Planet Fight Club by farming ISK lol if u think we are farming ISK...we have enough ;) UPS used this PFC district how it should been used. We had battles every week against new corps and also against vet corps. We always followed the rules. And we allways tried to play only with UPS members. Because we want to make sure, all of our members have the chance to play in a PC. There are a lot of other corps which are not using the PFC district correctly.... Have fun with the district... The thing is UPS has been around since the start of pc. From all of the ROFL wars, it's hard to believe UPS needs more training. We all have new players. I have 2 guys that I throw in our matches with under 4M sp. Do they get smoked? Absolutely ...but they get that real pc experience. I'm not saying you guys are isk farming...maybe you're just worried about attacking one of the major landowners. I get that but pfc shouldnt be a permanent home to corps like yours without the risk of loss. And we dont have plans to keep the district, btw. And we are the only corp on Oddeluf which are in PC since the starting? Come on, thats bs...;) We have lost a lot of players to lag and other bs in Dust and we recruit a lot of new ones...thats the reason why we had this district... I dont know if u are telling us the truth about the reason, but thats ok. We will find an other solution to train our members...
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2172	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:15:00 - [29] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SoLJae wrote: Hooray! There is finally someone willing to light the match and thin that welfare program out. I hope some of the larger corps back you guys up on this, if you face any type of retaliation that is. Good luck to ya! +1 AE or whoever else is policing PFC should get on board and let the small corps battle each other with risk of losing their district. Vet corps should stay out of PFC.... I disagree with this. I was once told. "pfc? noobs vs noobs? pffft how are they supposed to get any better? " Fact is, people do not like to lose. Alot of corps havea habit of only fighting weaker or same level opponents. This will not improve their gungame. While I believe that smaller newer corps should have a pfc district to train their guys, I also believe that they should not get a false perception of pc by having it on easy mode. There needs to be incentive for stronger corps to attack pfc districts without flipping them. Also smaller corps might fear attacking larger corps because they are afraid of causing a war that they cannot handle. One solution is to have a couple of select corps there to actively attack everyone on pfc or be available to be attacked without fear by the smaller corporations. Pradox may still continue to fight pfc after we lose our pfc district but we wont be fielding an A team. We will be there to train our newer guys. If the said corp wants to get better, then they can launch an attack from Oddeldulf to some of the more established corps. Issue is, there needs to be risk of losing a district. That is the big deal. If a corp doesn't want to get better then they can keep playing corps that aren't better than they are but will never amount to much outside of Oddeldulf. one of the good things about pfc is that the districts generate clones, I have known smaller indie corps that have gone bankrupt trying to get into pc. Right....but this is how you fix it. Make Oddeldulf the entry into pc. Make it the indie planet, so to speak. So small or low tiered corps can farm if they want but their districts will be at risk from new corps entering in. So, if a corp is good enough to beat one of the weaker corps on Oddeldulf, then they launch a few clone packs and now they are in. They have the option to take more districts on Oddeldulf if they can. They get their training up....and then they try their luck outside of Oddeldulf if they want to grow. Corps that have been kicked out of PC should have the option to reenter pc through Oddeldulf as well, especially if they are rebuilding. But they still run the risk of being attacked since they are considered vet corps. The problem is no risk of losing districts... weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2172	Posted - 2013.12.07 20:19:00 - [30] - Quote DaddyKillsEmAll wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: DaddyKillsEmAll wrote: Ahrendee Public Relations wrote: UPS is the most recent of these corporations we feel don't belong on Oddelulf for one very important reason: they have too much Dust and PC experience to be there. As a corporation they (and other veteran corporations on PFC) have done more to damage the integrity and reputation of Planet Fight Club by farming ISK lol if u think we are farming ISK...we have enough ;) UPS used this PFC district how it should been used. We had battles every week against new corps and also against vet corps. We always followed the rules. And we allways tried to play only with UPS members. Because we want to make sure, all of our members have the chance to play in a PC. There are a lot of other corps which are not using the PFC district correctly.... Have fun with the district... The thing is UPS has been around since the start of pc. From all of the ROFL wars, it's hard to believe UPS needs more training. We all have new players. I have 2 guys that I throw in our matches with under 4M sp. Do they get smoked? Absolutely ...but they get that real pc experience. I'm not saying you guys are isk farming...maybe you're just worried about attacking one of the major landowners. I get that but pfc shouldnt be a permanent home to corps like yours without the risk of loss. And we dont have plans to keep the district, btw. And we are the only corp on Oddeluf which are in PC since the starting? Come on, thats bs...;) We have lost a lot of players to lag and other bs in Dust and we recruit a lot of new ones...thats the reason why we had this district... I dont know if u are telling us the truth about the reason, but thats ok. We will find an other solution to train our members... No, you aren't the only corp on there. Noone said you are....no vet corp belongs there, not even us. You aren't the only corp that we attacked on PFC and probably won't be the last. To be frank as well, we won't attack corps that we have relations with. I am just hoping that they would take their own initiative to back out of Oddeldulf or if someone else attacks them and gets them off of it. Use FW to train your members. Get them in a squad and train them. All pc is...having an FC call the shots and tell people where to go and what to do. weRideNDie2getha since 2010



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