Out of dozens of factors in the game that change or don't change that might make players leave, absolutely nothing suggests player-count dropped because of specifically AA. Correlation does not imply causation, that's a logical fallacy. The big aim assist changes came 3 months ago with 1.4, and player counts did not start going down faster than usual on 6 month graph, it kept declining at about the same rate.

This is pure BS.

Also your other comment asking for the removal of KB&M is just crazy, its a big part of why a lot of people started playing the game, you would just make player counts go even lower.

EDIT: you clearly don't know what you're doing in a debate if you thought that graph proved anything, so I'm just done with this argument. Bye.

You can remove AA when you remove KB/M

Without AA you are FORCED to by a KB/M to be competitive. Not only that but dust has weak aim assist compared to most console shooters. I use DS3 and I notice very little difference between it on and off unless my target is far away (100M+)

If you don't like it then leave. No one likes people who whine about things that don't need to change.

If AA was completely gone, you wouldn't die in two seconds because, alas, every single shot wouldn't land.

Perhaps you should reference page 1 with the playercount looking like the 1929 market crash. Oh, fine, here:

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

Sad thing is DUST has existed longer without Aim Assist then it has with it. And has out performed the active players DUST has had with aim assist.

And general Common Sense would think everyone aiming for themselfs would be more fun then everyone having super aim. (Even GTA CREW battles is Free Aim only)


Sadly this is the response even respected Forum posters like Dexter have with it.

If AA was completely gone, you wouldn't die in two seconds because, alas, every single shot wouldn't land.

I can't think of one problem completely removing aim assist would create. This is, of course, operating under the assumption that mouse and keyboard is removed and ds3 turn speeds are given the option in sensitivity to vastly increase.

When did it not have Aim assist? I've only been here since early chromosome.

I can't think of one problem completely removing aim assist would create. This is, of course, operating under the assumption that mouse and keyboard is removed and ds3 turn speeds are given the option in sensitivity to vastly increase.

Please just **** off back to whichever twitch shooter you preferGǪ. Dust isn't the game for you.

With that said, I am curious, how many people out there have the balls to admit that they use aim assist, and what is a way we can fix this problem to make aim assist help keep you on target without enforcing poor gun skill level?

It's important to note, that before KAGEHOSHI took his ball and went home, he mentioned that there were an entire host of other issues that could possibly be tied to a declining playerbase and the current build's woes. I'm merely saying that aim assist by itself, because it is a CORE mechanic of a FPS, has rendered the game incompatible with respect to merging with eve someday. Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiich......was the whole point of Dust 514 in the first place.

You simply cannot have kids and casuals dictating even the smallest of nullsec sov. It is going to require players with the same engagement level as eve. Dust is catering to a crowd that will never offer that.

Removing aim assist and mouse and keyboard, while sounding elitist will lead to attracting serious, engaged, pro-like players. Then, you can begin to consider Dust-Eve tie ins.

This is a video game.
I use aim assist.
I do not measure my balls by a video game.
I save my good gun skills for RL
That is all.


P.S. I thought this game was supposed to be about "group play", "communication" and "cooperation"; Not about shooting. Aim Assist puts the emphasis back on strat and not proto leets stroking themselves on thumb jockey skills.

It's important to note, that before KAGEHOSHI took his ball and went home, he mentioned that there were an entire host of other issues that could possibly be tied to a declining playerbase and the current build's woes. I'm merely saying that aim assist by itself, because it is a CORE mechanic of a FPS, has rendered the game incompatible with respect to merging with eve someday. Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiich......was the whole point of Dust 514 in the first place. You simply cannot have kids and casuals dictating even the smallest of nullsec sov. It is going to require players with the same engagement level as eve. Dust is catering to a crowd that will never offer that.

This is a video game.
I use aim assist.
I do not measure my balls by a video game.
I save my good gun skills for RL
That is all.


P.S. I thought this game was supposed to be about "group play", "communication" and "cooperation"; Not about shooting. Aim Assist puts the emphasis back on strat and not proto leets stroking themselves on thumb jockey skills.

First time ive actually heard of stutter stepping, gotta look that stuff up, its noticeble when its always the same people that you can't seem to hit.

I know that its a virtual overlay, i was one of the people who figured that out at the start of uprising, but i like your view on the subject, most DS3 users don't want to get better at Aiming, but at the same time they want to be competetive with KBM players that have worked at getting better for most of their FPS careers, and in my case i caught Carpal tunnel and lost roughly 50% of what i had compared to my Counterstrike Days, i even had to quit because of it for many years...at some point to play 15 minutes i had to put my hands in ice cold water for 5 minutes....that was well the moment i had to move on...and it was already too late to prevent nerve damage.

I don't get people who don't want to get better themselves, on PC, people grab to Hacks to able to compete, i dont understand them...what is so fun to have something playing the game for you...