Snipers and Tankers have vastly increased k/d compared to most other roles. Now you'll end up seperating players by class and age. Not actual ability.

Would it really hurt to put the tankers vs each other and the snipers too. Not all the time but more evenly spread between teams.

Would it really hurt to put the tankers vs each other and the snipers too. Not all the time but more evenly spread between teams.

For the very last time people stop with your going on about proto stomping & your insane nonesense ways to fix it. This is the 1 easy, fast, & clear solution so support it if you want proto stomping to finally be fixed....

All CCP has to do is this, those with higher Lifetime SP wiil be facing only people with the same high range of Lifetime SP. Example a person with 15 million Lifetime SP will only be facing people with 17 million & 13 million Lifetime SP range. People with low lifetime SP will only be facing people with low Lifetime SP. Example a person has 5 million Lifetime SP then they'll only be facing people with the range of 7 million & 3 million Lifetime SP.

Veterans with Veterans - Newbies with Newbies

With the exception of squads & PC matches, then the system can match varying similiar people with similiar Lifetime SP range, in other words the more squads that are full the more the Lifetime SP will change to fit a general Lifetime SP range for all those playing.

Example Amarr side has 2 Squads, Squad A is full proto & they're lifetime SP is generally around 10 million, Squad B has 1 proto user, 3 moderate people running adavanced gear like GEK's lifetime SP ranging 5 - 2 million, with 2 newbies in it's squad - The Minmitar side has 1 full squad & 1 half full squad, Squad A is all moderate people running Advanced gear, Squad B (the half filled squad) has 1 proto & 2 newbies.

Scotty The AI will be encripted with mathmatical calculation gathering each & everyone's SP coming to a general Lifetime SP range of say 6 million+ (for the example above) be around the general range then Scotty will only allow "The randoms or Extra" people entering the match only to be within the priamaters of 6 million. There only people with 8 - 6 - 4 million Lifetime SP range can get in on that match.

This will mean a little longer match loading & if CCP brings back The War Room to matches besides Factional & PC then Scotty can do his calculations while "Waiting for deployment" & at The War Room....

I don't even have proto, lol.

Such balancing in matchmaking makes perfect sense, with 1 exception. There simply isnt a large enough playerbase to support the separation of players by ANY methods.

further limiting selection of players in matches will do more harm than good at this time. Just an unfortunate fact of the state of the game

Imo the most effective way to balance matchmaking would be twofold. First, expand the academy so players arent kicked out of it til much later, like 1m wp or 5m sp or something. Also, make all players uncapped til they hit like 10m sp. This will provide everyone a fighting chance against people like me with a metric ton of sp

Imo the most effective way to balance matchmaking would be twofold. First, expand the academy so players arent kicked out of it til much later, like 1m wp or 5m sp or something. Also, make all players uncapped til they hit like 10m sp. This will provide everyone a fighting chance against people like me with a metric ton of sp

New players need to stop being lazy and get with the program, learn to squad up.. learn to join a ******* corp.. learn teamwork and communication. The day I join a match and DONT see a long list of unsquadded players is the day I consider something else is wrong and needs addressing with this "protostomp" issue.

Matchmaking, limiting players to MIL/STD gear only, battle academy, blah blah blah... all bandaids to a problem that lies on the shoulders of bad/lazy players.

The academy was really a bandaid to matchmaking but I like the idea of building on it to further enhance new player experience. Raising the WP cap to 250k with the option to participate in pub/FW matches while still enrolled after 50k would help a lot. Uncapped SP until 10 would be good too as long as they get unlimited respecs while still enrolled to try out fittings and academy matches are limited to militia/standard gear. While enrolled, they get little side missions that teach them about the game from basic menu navigation to using all the different dropsuit frames and vehicles to give them an idea of what Dust 514 offers. Add in starter fits for all frame sizes, highsec, lowsec, and nullsec pub matches that restrict average meta level fittings by 5, 10, and no limit respectively and this would go a long way to make Dust a bit more forgiving for new players.

This in no way would permanently fix the issue but it'd be a step in the right direction. One of the biggest problems is that new players don't have a place in Dust aside from being cannon fodder for vets. We need something like EWAR with tackling and debuffs to give newberries a chance to be competitive without overall nerfing ourselves.

1. The Tutorial Doesn't tell new players to join a squad or a Corp, the only way they learn about it is via other players
2. Calling new players bad/lazy is ignorant and extremely arrogant, it's extremely difficult to be a master at something when you first start doing it and it takes time and experience to improve.
3. Throwing new players against organised squads of the most experienced players in the game straight out of the academy is ridiculous as they are just cannon fodder to pad the stats of the vets and ends up just demoralising the new players who then in turn quit the game.

The true problems are an awful tutorial,poor matchmaking and no PVE
-A better tutorial would mean better educated new players who have a better understanding of the game mechanics and the gamemodes as well as some tried and tested strategies to use in certain gamemodes
-A better matchmaking system would balance teams and lead to closer more fun games .. whilst there may be issues doing this completely we currently have 2 veteran squads being put up against 16 randoms .. why can't the matchmaking split the 2 squads up 1 on each team ?
-PVE would give the more casual players somewhere to go and something to do if they didn't feel like doing PVP as well as giving solo players something else to do and would also present an opportunity for new players to improve various skills which would make them better in the PVP games

Protostomping or whatever you want to call it is a serious issue and needs to be fixed and if the 3 things i mentioned above were implemented I feel that a majority of the problem would be alleviated !!

I don't understand the problem with proto-stomping. You can play the game however you want to, proto-stomping is just as valid as any other play-style. If a proto-stomping squad is ruining your enjoyment of the game then just leave the match.

For the very last time people stop with your going on about proto stomping & your insane nonesense ways to fix it. This is the 1 easy, fast, & clear solution so support it if you want proto stomping to finally be fixed....

All CCP has to do is this, those with higher Lifetime SP wiil be facing only people with the same high range of Lifetime SP. Example a person with 15 million Lifetime SP will only be facing people with 17 million & 13 million Lifetime SP range. People with low lifetime SP will only be facing people with low Lifetime SP. Example a person has 5 million Lifetime SP then they'll only be facing people with the range of 7 million & 3 million Lifetime SP.

Veterans with Veterans - Newbies with Newbies

With the exception of squads & PC matches, then the system can match varying similiar people with similiar Lifetime SP range, in other words the more squads that are full the more the Lifetime SP will change to fit a general Lifetime SP range for all those playing.

Example Amarr side has 2 Squads, Squad A is full proto & they're lifetime SP is generally around 10 million, Squad B has 1 proto user, 3 moderate people running adavanced gear like GEK's lifetime SP ranging 5 - 2 million, with 2 newbies in it's squad - The Minmitar side has 1 full squad & 1 half full squad, Squad A is all moderate people running Advanced gear, Squad B (the half filled squad) has 1 proto & 2 newbies.

Scotty The AI will be encripted with mathmatical calculation gathering each & everyone's SP coming to a general Lifetime SP range of say 6 million+ (for the example above) be around the general range then Scotty will only allow "The randoms or Extra" people entering the match only to be within the priamaters of 6 million. There only people with 8 - 6 - 4 million Lifetime SP range can get in on that match.

This will mean a little longer match loading & if CCP brings back The War Room to matches besides Factional & PC then Scotty can do his calculations while "Waiting for deployment" & at The War Room....

Have we been playing the same game? You expect CCP to fix this **** storm? Did you see the last time they tried to implement a matchmaking system "scotty hates you, scotty hates you, for days" lol. good luck with that.

Next match you are in, everyone you see who isn't in a squad... send them a message that if they don't want to get protostomped to consider joining a squad or even better, an established corp.

That will at least be an attempt to fix the problem which is probably very far down on the list of things to fix with what, the 3-4 people CCP has still working on this broken ass game.

Or you can continue to post suggestions for the umteenthousandth time which will continue to fall on def ears.

Yeah, and what happens if you have 15 million SP and you suck?

You will now permanently be put into matches with people far better than you and thrashed over and over due to factors outside your control.

So basically, it would be an even more guaranteed means of what only happens most of the time right now.

You will be dying due to your opponents having more skill than you at the game and not an SP / gear advantage ... what exactly is wrong with that ? You are trying to say that because you suck at the game you should go up against players with 1/10th of your SP using militia gear so you can kill them ?

How exactly is sucking at the game being a factor outside of your control .. your the one playing the game if you suck then you have complete control over that factor .. at least you are fighting people at a similar level of SP and gear access .. imagine being in your position and sucking at the game but then being put up against a squad of people with 20m SP when you only have 600k SP .. what chance does the player in this scenario have ? To think your complaining about going up v people with the same SP as you .. LMAO most new players would love to be up against people with the same SP as them

Yes it would. More than half of the vehicle tree is anti Infantry, or even inofantry support, focused for a reason and snipers belong to the same battlefield as all the others aswell.

This is ARDust514, not Tank514 or Sniping514 after all.

So it's an issue when people are constantly put up against players that are vastly superior to them, get obliterated in the process and throw in the towel in frustration unless they just so happen to have an unusually high amount of SP, regardless of how they got it in the first place, regardles of whether it's invested in skills that are actually useful to them and regardless of whether the player is actually able to use and sustain the equipment you expect him to wield on a daily basis from that point on, which leads to the exact same dynamics, experience and outcome?

Is the glaring hypocrisy in this post actually intended or would you like to revisit above statement?