dust should go open world, just imagine hijacking a huge lorry load of goods or running minig ops on a planet

Your expectations don't hold up in reality. Dust open world? Not happening. Too many planets in Eve Online. Not even WoW during it's peak times would've had enough players to make sopmething like that fun.

Unless you had ground gateways so that each "Planet" could be linked by high-powered warp systems with similar arrangement to WoW's zones..

Kind of like the gateways used by the Train systems to go from star to star in Pandora's Star.

dust should go open world, just imagine hijacking a huge lorry load of goods or running minig ops on a planet

Yes, let 10,000 players roam free on 5000+ temperate planets... That's like... Errr... 2 per planet?

If they are male and female, a mini-game can solve this Problem!

Yes, let 10,000 players roam free on 5000+ temperate planets... That's like... Errr... 2 per planet?

If they are male and female, a mini-game can solve this Problem!

seems simple enough in a way.

have one large planet with a story line war going on over the planet. then have numerous events/ battles going on at the planet.

you could freely attack any district on the map, and players could freely join that battle to defend it.

shortest defend timers would at the top of the list, and the higher the priority of the district the higher the payout.


this would earn loyalty points for the faction you are defending or attacking for, and you can trade those in for faction gear.


it would be the start of an open world style of game play anyway.

Unless you had ground gateways so that each "Planet" could be linked by high-powered warp systems with similar arrangement to WoW's zones..

Kind of like the gateways used by the Train systems to go from star to star in Pandora's Star.

Maybe one day they'll be able to link the 3 games so you start out as a DUST merc, work your way into space as an EVE Valkyrie fighter, and work your way up the chain of command to become a pilot of a starship in EVE Online.
I doubt CCP would be ambitious enough to make that all in 1 game.

Maybe one day they'll be able to link the 3 games so you start out as a DUST merc, work your way into space as an EVE Valkyrie fighter, and work your way up the chain of command to become a pilot of a starship in EVE Online.
I doubt CCP would be ambitious enough to make that all in 1 game.

YYYEEEAAAAAHHHH LETS WANDER AROUND THIS CRAPPY PLANET WHERE THE ONLY STRUCTURES ARE THE ONES WE WOULD BE DEFENDING IN CONTRACTS!!!!

Really though what's the point? Now if we were talking about walking around in stations with dust AND eve players then you would get a plus 1 and some real excitement. What a glorious day that would be, my eve character and my dust character shaking hands!

yh i thought it was slightly over ambitious.
i was thinking eve players could have civilizations on planets tht need resources to keep them running generating income from its citizens.
dust players could set up bases on planets or there could be bases on planets like stations on eve tht, store there vehicles and other resources then there would be mining sites.
there could be huge trucks to move your resources across to places with space ports for transportation into space. idk but it just seems awesome in my head.
i can imagine jumping in a shuttle and flying up to the space stations it would be pretty amazing.

dust should go open world, just imagine hijacking a huge lorry load of goods or running minig ops on a planet

Again, the issue is practicality. If it were that easy, don't you think it would have been done already?

Again, the issue is practicality. If it were that easy, don't you think it would have been done already?

Again, the issue is practicality. If it were that easy, don't you think it would have been done already?

Dust needs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more work on the mechanics and balance before things like open worlds are discussed. Soon TM doesn't even apply here.

being a dumbass whats "soon TM"

It means it will be coming a year and a half from now and shoved under the rug when someone asks about it.

My thread that had more thought put into it wasn't this popular...
But at least it got a CPM reply

you could get on a shuttle at a spaceport then fly to a space station, then jump in a transportation ship in eve to get to different star systems.

Linky?

Dust needs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more work on the mechanics and balance before things like open worlds are discussed. Soon TM doesn't even apply here.

Then they would never add content, it will always be mechanics and balance to work with, it is possible to do 2 things at the time....

Was a tongue in cheek at me I think.

Shuttles carry people from system to system as well as station to station. There's no different one for each job.

And still nobody cares about my thread.

Lol.

It's not possible to create what would be basically a 2nd game when Dust is in shambles. Dust does not need an open world. It needs balance and it needs the mechanics straightened out. If an open world was introduced and everyone ran off and started mining, that obviously states the main game is broken.

People want open worlds and all that dumb ****, I want an FPS that works properly, not a bunch of idiots in heavy suits and ARs because of CCPs lack of ability to balance a game that has been "out of beta" for nearly a year. For CCP to even think about maybe talking about open world stuff within the next year would be idiotic, and a loss of focus. Dust is currently not working as intended, and being able to freely roam around 1000s of worlds with the same 4 generic maps to mine rock in a first person shooter is ******* stupid. Oh but we could have trains! **** a train, I have a Destroyer in orbit, I would want to transport myself with that.
Of course, if it was exploration I wanted, i'd hop on Eve, or another game. Unfortunately, right now if it's a functioning, balanced shooter I want, I am forced to find another game as well.

jesus man u wrote a freakin essay lol u covered half a page

I know all about "the visions". Look where we are now. After nearly a year, not only is the game un balanced, it has wildly swung in multiple directions of balance over the course of the year. Uplinks are able to be laid in the middle of solid structures, swarms don't render, lag is brutal in PC, grenades will disappear from your hand after you pull them out, ect ect ect.

Thats all basic stuff. I don't care how open the world is, if the core gameplay isn't right the game is not going to work. The only thing CoD like atm is the gunplay, due to TTK. What was suppose to set it apart from CoD was the idea of mods and building a dropsuit, plus the whole PC idea. An open world is not required to create a difference from CoD, and if people are concerned about booking virtual flights to explore generic terrain with nothing to do but mine rock and maybe shoot a A.I. drone here and there, I would say those people may have the wrong game.

In reality implimenting what has been requested in this post and in the linked post is a pipe dream. Some of the ideas sound nice, but none of it is realistic. Which is why a ton of stuff has currently not been implimented. Dreams and visions are nice, but reality checks rule all. We are suppose to have speeder bike things, heavy aircraft, fighter aircraft, APC's, mechs, defensive relays, more heavy weapons, more suits, the ability for a Corp to purchase MCCs and installations, ect ect. Some of this may come one day, but more than likely CCP bit off more than they could chew, and they are coming to that realization.

Think about what you are asking for. Thousands of planets, each with an individual identity, affected by 2 totally different kinds of games, one of which only averages between 400-700 players on at any one moment, and since what is being asked for doesn't currently exist in any way shape or form, Dust would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it a totally different kind of game. Add to that the fact that PS2s "open worldness" has been called a flop by many, and you have a strong argument to keep open world far far away from Dust.

Thats my opinion though, I want a competitive FPS with RPG elements, not an Adventure game.

Notice how the only people who ever bring up "mining" are the ones against open world or those who make threads that don't really get noticed?

Theie primary argument against open world is something that apparently only they want.

LOL

Why would you want it all in one game? They are all going after different gameplay styles and target audiences.

I mean, lots of people I know who play EVE hate playing FPS games, and some of the people I am getting into DUST could never enjoy a game at EVE's pace.

They work well as they are planned, separate games that have lots of interaction planned between them. Forcing a player to go through one play style to get to another is not how you get players, nor are you going to be able to obtain players if you literally tell them that one playstyle is a lesser teir than another.

its not just about mining its about running missions exploring worlds fighting pve finding cool stuff scanning down enviroments setting up ambushes i think u fail to see the bigger picture

I would imagine that not 100% of the temperate planets are inhabited by intelligent life currently (maybe long ago but no more type of scenario). I think it would be a great opportunity for Exploration PvE/PvPvE, opportunities for wealth building that didn't involve gaming a broken faucet.

It'll be a problem if CCP merged DUST and EVE and made it manditory to play FPS to enjoy EVE. Currently CCP is hoping that DUST players will play EVE Online and EVE online players would play DUST and expect a strong

Eve will always control the universe we are in, as it should be. Eve has been around for 10 years, and it's player base has to pay to be able to play. The complexity of the Corporations in Eve goes far beyond any Dust Corp. Which brings up another issue with Dust industry. Currently, pretty much anything used in Eve is created by players of Eve, putting economic control in their hands. I highly doubt we in Dust will ever be making anything of significance equipment wise to Eve players, but to merge the economies of both games together in a meaningful way, someone will have to be making stuff for the other game. Seeing as how Eve is already fully setup for an industrial style of play, I would imagine they will be the ones making stuff for us, not the other way around. Especially since Eve people would justifiably freak out if the character they have been paying for and working on for so and so many years suddenly becomes dependent on players from a free to play game that was taken "out of beta" less than a year ago.

Again, alot of the stuff in this thread sounds fine and good, but to impliment it technically speaking, and to do it in a way so as not to **** off the people who have been paying to play Eve is currently way out of the realm of possibility. People can say "yea, but" and "well what if" all they want. Go ahead and hold your breath for the open world stuff. Don't worry, i'll wait.

Not trying to be a d*ck, just being realistic.

Like I said before. My hopes are not solely dependent on CCP. If CCP doesn't then someone else will, and at that time I shall revel in watching the complete annihilation of both these games player bases, just for the simple fact that CCP could have done something revolutionary but didn't.

Reco-nize!

Seriously Son, what are you doing these days? You still playing Dust or just playing the forums?

Like I said before. My hopes are not solely dependent on CCP. If CCP doesn't then someone else will

I had a dream" and that dream was a nice tank. We'll see what happens.

And right here, in a nutshell, is why anything open worldish needs to be put on the back burner. A basic unit in an FPS game is not working properly.