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Rami Hamilo
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
2
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:25:00 -
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So far, I am not liking 1.7. I guess the only thing that will redeem it will be what dropsuits/weapons are released. |
Seeth Mensch
highland marines
58
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:34:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:[quote=ADAM-OF-EVE] -- snip -- If they continue to do their famous Wang Ninja Nerf solutions while not refunding SP ... they could approach EA in their level of evil. Hopefully, they have a different goal in maid. 
lawls 
Hey, when I talked about this stuff in a different thread, it was HTFU. Now, legions of Sp demanders come striding forth.
I say, give'm the SP back for their precious swarms and AV 'nades. I'll scrape them off my eventual bumper later.
Things change hard in this game. I think I understand the complaint, but there's a huge difference in a single weapon (swarms, you get a lot more speccing in the 'nades tree than just AV) and vehicle trees. I'm losing my go-to ADS. I loved flying. Now I'm stuck on the ground. Sad. But I'll wait....for a while. CCP is pounding out this beta as fast as they can, though I suspect they may do better with a somewhat more incremental approach instead of a series every month. Just me, though.
Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1281
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:56:00 -
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you guys are a bunch of effing liars...
ccp, you said you wouldn't touch our bpo's
there had better be a full refund for them or you all can kiss my business good-bye.
and I'm not talking AUR...
at 23 mil sp wtf do you have for me to buy with AUR?
boosters?
pfffft!
insert witty or profound statement here _______.
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Ninjanomyx
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
440
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:02:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Good to see CCP playing favorites!
In what world is it fair that people after these changes get the option to skill out of vehicles, but not into them?
Unless you stick to your often used "choices have consequences" frase and only allow refunded SP to be put back into vehicles this "respec" is not fair in any way.
I feel sad for the dedicated Swarm Launcher (and other AV as well) users that will have their role radically nerfed without getting their SP refunded. They'll be shooting a paper gun more than anything else while CCP just gives them the middle finger.
I'm giving the middle finger to Swarms right now as we speak. If a Swarmer can't kill a Tank now.....they never will. Get Gud
With that said.......I agree with your Post 100%. Doubly so since my additive to this argument coincides. Some of us Tankers unintentionally Spec'd into Dropsuits to compensate for being punished for doing anything but "Boots on the Ground". New SP Sink makes undesirable Class that gave me Stockholm Syndrome even less desirable, but alas I shall remain since nobody else will brave the storm of Alpha Testing again for CCP. That &.....Pilot Suit bro, Pilot.....Suit..... |
Dust Junky 4Life
Shitstorm Inc
164
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:42:00 -
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Hold a sign and chants: HELLLLLLL NO, LEAVE OUR BPO'S ALONE
A Shitstorm is coming...........
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Denchlad 7
Heavy Reign inc.
Freek Alliance
15
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:49:00 -
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...so ADS aren't being removed?
Crumbs.
Oh well. Get enough isk and SP back that I may consider using them seriously this time. Or finally get some new gear. Ah well.
And RIP my cuddley Callisto. Though you were absolutely useless I will miss your inconvenience and blueness *sheds a tear*.
-Flaylock Specialist. I even dual-wield it still. (GîÉGûá_Gûá)
-Likes ramming a HMG up Gallentes rear end.
-Pain in the arse
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
2431
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:02:00 -
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Waruiko DUST wrote:I'd rather keep those militia BPOs as legacy trade items then get an AUR refund
CCP do this.
HellsGÇáorm, Director
Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4200
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:16:00 -
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Why not just refund all vehicles, I don't see why I'm going to need those Madrugars, seems like there will be no new racial vehicles introduced so why not let me spec out of Amour tanks and into shield tanks? Oh wait I cant because I don't have the ISK because CCP wont refund STD tanks like Gunlogis and Maddies.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Our Deepest Regret
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
312
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:00:00 -
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Personally, I'm thrilled. I made a lot of dumb choices, so I'm more than happy to get those points back. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
10
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:00:00 -
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NoxMort3m wrote:Would it not be easier to just to respec everyone completely. People with vehicle skills could potentially just respec into max skills of a new weapon causing a serious advantage to others who have just skilled into the new item. Anyone with vehicle skills now has the potential for a serious advantage over the rest of the people that do not.it could be an injection of sp to any skil not just vehicles. So for the good of dust kind respec us all.
Message from Godin:
1: Infantry scrubs don't deserve one
2: This is our reward for having to put up with your scrubby **** for months on end. Time for payback  |
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Lorhak Gannarsein
618
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Why not just refund all vehicles, I don't see why I'm going to need those Madrugars, seems like there will be no new racial vehicles introduced so why not let me spec out of Amour tanks and into shield tanks? Oh wait I cant because I don't have the ISK because CCP wont refund STD tanks like Gunlogis and Maddies.
/le me is 120M ISK richer (which is another way of saying I have now got 122M ISK XD)
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bundie bitches
RARE850
0
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:55:00 -
[102] - Quote
i am glad they are giving respec for vehicles and not swarm launchers. its called learn how to use it, people were getting bpo vehicles never getting out to fight ( go put on a skirt ) and if they lost one it didnt matter because they weren't out anything. my only question to ccp is, Are you guys going to do anything about the minmatar basic proto suit and the assault proto because everything is the same on them with a minor tweak in the pg and cpu and truthfully they should be different |
Koan Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
39
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:09:00 -
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so this is what the people are complaining about in the g/d. I was thinking they were just taking all the bpo's out or something. I mean, I dont mind paying the extra 3 k on my primary suit but i really like the green and grey camo on my valor...would hate to see it go. My primary kit would go from 9.5 k to 12.5 ....bfd.
It will also making stealing vehicles much more rewarding. Cause honestly people were using the bpo vehicles to cart their heavies around with no risk due to insane damage resist we could put into the logi lav's. I know, I made a character specifically to pilot them. A shame people didnt use them for much else and their getting rebalanced. Well, if the light turrets get a fix and they get put back in maybe they will be a viable fast attack vehicle. I know very few people that can hit a target while were moving even with that 200k missile magnet that is my 20gj ion cannon x.x
Two in the head boss?
Two in the head...
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
254
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:14:00 -
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Reading between the lines:
CCP Frame wrote:we will be performing a full vehicle skill tree respec (and skill book ISK refund) for anyone that has skill points invested into the Vehicle and Turret skill trees (Vehicle Command, Vehicle Upgrades and Turret Operation). This is to allow vehicle users the choice between fully specing vehicles (if they're OP) or fully specing the new rifles (if they're OP). We are arbitrarily denying this option to current infantry (90%+ of the playerbase), who can go **** themselves. |
Rami Hamilo
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
2
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:43:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:you guys are a bunch of effing liars...
ccp, you said you wouldn't touch our bpo's
there had better be a full refund for them or you all can kiss my business good-bye.
and I'm not talking AUR...
at 23 mil sp wtf do you have for me to buy with AUR?
boosters?
pfffft!
What he said. I'm almost at 21million SP. I'm not about to buy boosters unless you put Omega boosters back on the market. I guess I'll just have 16k AUR that will sit there and do nothing.
All I can say is if you youch our Merc/Vet/Elite/Special BPOs, you will screw yourself out of a LOT of players. |
Ninjanomyx
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
441
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:25:00 -
[106] - Quote
I'm sure glad CCP F**KED me out of the 100 Falchions by not informing correctly the conditions required for some of the Challenges.....& not having a Stat Tracker..... I assured myself that after each Checklist I accomplished I'd be set. I even went so far as to do 10 extra of each...& still I got shafted. Now all those broke asses who can't last a Match in their Tank get more ISK than me (910 Mil hard earned......) for getting "Lucky" in a matter of notime flat..... WTF ever.....I'll still force you Nubs to go broke  |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1726
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Posted - 2013.11.21 13:18:00 -
[107] - Quote
Its nice that vehicles users do get a skill respec but we still have a problem and thats not including the massive SP sink you have created
With the SL changes many want to get out of them, if the FG changes some may want out of FG aswell and also out of the fat suit
Myself im skilled into lolswarms and also in FG with the fat suit
With my SP i can skill straight into infantry gear and max it out easily, but someone who wants to get into tanks and out of AV/infantry cannot do that |
NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
96
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Posted - 2013.11.21 13:37:00 -
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HELL NO!! NO REMOVAL OF BPOS!!! I STUCK WITH THIS GAME THROUGH ALL THE BS, MISSING SKILLPOINTS, UNNECESSARY NERFS!! YOUR NOT TAKING THEM AWAY! ALL THE CRAP I HAD TO PUT UP WITH STICKING WITH YOU FROM BETA TO NOW YOUR NOT TAKING THESE AWAY. |
NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
96
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Posted - 2013.11.21 13:40:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I
With the SL changes many want to get out of them, if the FG changes some may want out of FG aswell and also out of the fat suit
Look at my KD since the forge changes.. Seriously they changes this game into a medium suit gang bang with us heavy suites getting the BOOT. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
423
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:04:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I
With the SL changes many want to get out of them, if the FG changes some may want out of FG aswell and also out of the fat suit
Look at my KD since the forge changes.. Seriously they changes this game into a medium suit gang bang with us heavy suites getting the BOOT.
At least they didn't reduce the forge gun range by more than half, and the damage by one third. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1729
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:03:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I
With the SL changes many want to get out of them, if the FG changes some may want out of FG aswell and also out of the fat suit
Look at my KD since the forge changes.. Seriously they changes this game into a medium suit gang bang with us heavy suites getting the BOOT. At least they didn't reduce the forge gun range by more than half, and the damage by one third.
Yet to see what they do with the FG |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5224
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:55:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:HELL NO!! NO REMOVAL OF BPOS!!! I STUCK WITH THIS GAME THROUGH ALL THE BS, MISSING SKILLPOINTS, UNNECESSARY NERFS!! YOUR NOT TAKING THEM AWAY! ALL THE CRAP I HAD TO PUT UP WITH STICKING WITH YOU FROM BETA TO NOW YOUR NOT TAKING THESE AWAY.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122605&find=unread
I'm leaving this here for your reading pleasure. Also, please answer the question presented in that thread.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
127
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:15:00 -
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Did some math. I will receive, if my calculations are correct, 14541955 ISK and 2195090 SP, back. Like I said before, Rail Rifle, here I come.
I am the Horseless Headsman.
Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
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Croned
Dem Durrty Boyz
539
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Posted - 2013.11.21 23:53:00 -
[114] - Quote
Are we getting the ISK back of vehicle items currently in our inventory, or are we getting the ISK back from all vehicle items purchased since Uprising (like the ISK refund we got upon transitioning out of Beta)?
Son of a plasma cannon!
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Nocturis Mortus
Immortal Guides
0
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Posted - 2013.11.22 00:14:00 -
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I am a vehicle pilot myself and seeing that most of my points will be unallocated I can't help but ask if it hasn't been already. Is it very fair that vehicle pilots are going to have a ton of unallocated SP to put wherever they please now, but people who do not will be stuck with their choices? Gladly I am focused in HaVs, but I think that it should just be a full optional respect for anyone who requests it like before.
Partial respecs only gives the advantage to the people getting them. That just isn't very fair to anyone else. |
Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
69
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Posted - 2013.11.22 00:29:00 -
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So 1.7 is mainly focusing on vehicles? bummer
The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
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Rusty Shallows
522
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Posted - 2013.11.22 00:53:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Vehicle-optimized mercs,
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In regards to BPOs: we are removing and refunding a few specific AUR militia Blueprints pertaining to vehicles because their respective modules will not exist anymore. We have no plans for the immediate future to touch other blueprints.
Below is the list of vehicles, modules and turrets that will be removed and fully refunded on Uprising 1.7GÇÖs deployment, along with Skills and their current prices:
Modules:
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4800 AUR Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier
4800 AUR Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint
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Someone pointed out to me that the militia modules may be reintroduced later. If true then I do not want an AUR refund and will wait however many months or years it may take to get the BPOs back.
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71
310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
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Hunter Junko
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
215
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Posted - 2013.11.22 03:22:00 -
[118] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0f8LqL1RQc&feature=youtu.be&t=17s |
Lorhak Gannarsein
626
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Posted - 2013.11.22 03:45:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:CCP Frame wrote:Vehicle-optimized mercs,
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In regards to BPOs: we are removing and refunding a few specific AUR militia Blueprints pertaining to vehicles because their respective modules will not exist anymore. We have no plans for the immediate future to touch other blueprints.
Below is the list of vehicles, modules and turrets that will be removed and fully refunded on Uprising 1.7GÇÖs deployment, along with Skills and their current prices:
Modules:
snip
4800 AUR Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier
4800 AUR Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint
snip Someone pointed out to me that the militia modules may be reintroduced later. If true then I do not want an AUR refund and will wait however many months or years it may take to get the BPOs back.
They will be reintroduced. They will be different modules.
Those modules will no longer exist. A passive Shield Resistance module will no longer exist, ergo, CCP are removing them. |
toasterwaffles
THE IMMORTAL L3GI0N
9
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Posted - 2013.11.22 04:11:00 -
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Will we be keeping our blood raider sagas? Just to be sure |
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