They work exactly the same. Lock on range is just reduced. Deal with it. (I am proto swarm used myself)

fair enough you change vehicles so vehicle respec... what about us swarm users who have had a massive change to how they work and skills. why no respec for swarms

Would it not be easier to just to respec everyone completely. People with vehicle skills could potentially just respec into max skills of a new weapon causing a serious advantage to others who have just skilled into the new item. Anyone with vehicle skills now has the potential for a serious advantage over the rest of the people that do not.it could be an injection of sp to any skil not just vehicles. So for the good of dust kind respec us all.

For unassigned items being removed, which character will receive the ISKies?

So was the cardiac stimulant skill, yet CCP have not removed the militia cardiac stimulant BPO. So what the point of removing a BPO that soon to be outdated. It not like it going to F up all the new crap CCP put in for the vehicles.

Good to see CCP playing favorites!

In what world is it fair that people after these changes get the option to skill out of vehicles, but not into them?

Unless you stick to your often used "choices have consequences" frase and only allow refunded SP to be put back into vehicles this "respec" is not fair in any way.

I feel sad for the dedicated Swarm Launcher (and other AV as well) users that will have their role radically nerfed without getting their SP refunded. They'll be shooting a paper gun more than anything else while CCP just gives them the middle finger.

Vehicle-optimized mercs, Through the release of Uprising 1.7 we will be bringing major vehicle adjustments to DUST 514. Alongside balance and design changes, some currently existing vehicles, modules and turrets will be removed from the game. We've heard your questions and concerns regarding Skill and Item refunds and wished to address them comprehensively here. Vehicles that are planned for removal will be fully refunded to you in both ISK and AUR. Additionally, we will be performing a full vehicle skill tree respec (and skill book ISK refund) for anyone that has skill points invested into the Vehicle and Turret skill trees (Vehicle Command, Vehicle Upgrades and Turret Operation).

R.I.P my beautiful little spamable all BPO LAV. For only 4 mil SP and $7.20 in cash you gave me many hours of good times in Death Race 514. It's for the greater good. You will not be forgotten.


Post Edit: I hold no grudges at CCP. The Dev's are removing said modules from the game so I'm more than happy to get my AUR back. Which is the right thing to do.

hey.... were loosing money. Im looking at the scattered ion cannon, and were getting less than 300k refunded to us. The market charges us nearly a million isk. So... we losing more than 2 thirds of the isk we invested???

I will be mad if I can't use my Bloodwatch Saga and Ishukone Watch Saga BPOs anymore. I'll be even more mad if they take away the BPOs that I spent 150 dollars to get. I think we should get more than AUR back for something that never got depleted. What are we going to buy, AUR equipment that will be destroyed just the same as ISK items?

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leaving the new tanks to rampage. no weapon in this game has/is going to have such a drastic change as swarms. i sitting on 2mil wasted skill points.

If you're removing vehicle BPOs, are you going to be removing other BPOs in the future? Instead of giving AUR back, can I get SP? Omega Boosters? Getting AUR back for BPOs you guys take away isn't fair, imo.

Could be a legal question, you purchase a car from someone, that same person which sold you the car steals it... how would you feel about this?

An example of Xbox Live, I got me a dlc for a game, M$ forgot to provide a code and they refunded me the cash I spent and allowed me to keep the games which i downloaded and the dlc at no extra cost, unbelievable but true . So therefore either CCP allow us to have real money back or to exchange the items for anything else we need in game. A sort of agreement.

In the end we spent real money for virtual items like "dlc" and when you purchase a bpo it lasts forever, like a dlc , therefore if those which made the said "dlc" item remove it - you are indeed entitled to a full cash refund or both parties can reach a mutual agreement.

NB CCP some of us spent real money to support your game , some of us spent real money to purchase and keep BPOs, either as a collection item or for the "FUTURE TM" open market. Therefore some of us EXPECT our real life money back OR we reach an Agreement.

Peac3

Maybe I read it wrong but I think they said you would get AUR refunded.