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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:09:00 -
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Good to see CCP playing favorites!
In what world is it fair that people after these changes get the option to skill out of vehicles, but not into them?
Unless you stick to your often used "choices have consequences" frase and only allow refunded SP to be put back into vehicles this "respec" is not fair in any way.
I feel sad for the dedicated Swarm Launcher (and other AV as well) users that will have their role radically nerfed without getting their SP refunded. They'll be shooting a paper gun more than anything else while CCP just gives them the middle finger.
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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.12.01 08:04:00 -
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I still can't believe this.
Players have told you to do a full respec. The CPM has told you to do a full respec. Yet CCP refuses, because as usual CCP knows best and would rather treat their players like ****.
Pilots can skill out of vehicles if they don't like the vehicle changes, but infantry can't skill into vehicles if they do like the vehicle changes. What kind of treatment is that?
That's also just the main reason to do a full respec, there are other minor reasons supporting one, so not doing a full respec is so idiotic and I seriously can't believe this is how you choose to treat your players.
Wake up CCP.
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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:04:00 -
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Still waiting for that upgrade from vehicle to full respec. What's taking so long? You seriously can't tell me you still only want to do a vehicle only respec.
To sum it up really short:
1. It's not fair that pilots get the choice to skill out of vehicles if they don't like the changes, but infantry don't get the choice to skill into vehicles if they do like the changes. This is the main reason that should warrant a full respec by itself.
2. Pilots can now chase FOTM if they want to, or at least pump all of the refunded SP into infantry and thus they get the choice to switch roles while infantry don't get the same option.
3. Pilots might have SP in infantry skills that they are going to need for vehicle skills after the changes, but with only a vehicle respec they can't use that SP.
4. AV is getting radically changed. Personally I call it a major nerf. For example is the Swarm Launcher no longer a major AV weapon, but rather a support weapon. Dedicated Swarm Launcher users could be wanting to skill into Forge Guns or Railgun HAVs instead to keep their role as main AV intact.
All in all I seriously can't see how you're not doing a full respec for the 1.7 release and I'll be waiting for the announcement of a full respec for 1.7 in the coming days (before the release of 1.7).
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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.12.03 12:46:00 -
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I still don't see that full respec announcement. Are you really saying you're going to allow pilots to skill out of vehicles, but not infantry to skill into vehicles? For real?
When you did these minor skill tree changes back in May you did exactly the right thing by giving everyone an optional full respec. I fail to see what's different this time and why you're not doing the same thing now.
7 days left till 1.7, you seem to be running out of time.
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:05:00 -
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I must say that I'm truly baffled at how CCP is handling this.
I'll be honest and say this is the final nail in the coffin for me, as I certainly don't want to play a game where the players are treated like this.
You change the vehicle skill tree, fine.
You then give the people with SP invested in that tree the chance to make a choice as to how to spend that SP based on the new skill tree, fine.
You then DO NOT give everyone else the same chance to make a choice as to how to spend their SP based on the new skill tree, NOT fine.
You're letting pilots skill out of vehicles based on the changes, but you're not letting infantry skill into vehicles based on the same changes, NOT fine.
Good luck with your 80 million PS3s.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 09:15:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello everyone,
Just to give you clarification regarding some edge-cases that may occur: If you have a character set for deletion during 1.7 deployment, that character will still receive skill respec if it is eligible for one (has skill points seeded into vehicle skill trees). So if you change your mind you can feel free to cancel deletion and resume playing with that character.
TL;DR version: Do not set your characters for deletion during 1.7 deployment if you planned on doing so! :)
What about that full respec to everyone?
You're letting pilots skill out of vehicles, but not infantry to skill into vehicles. Sounds legit.
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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.12.05 11:22:00 -
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Skybladev2 wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:
What about that full respec to everyone?
You're letting pilots skill out of vehicles, but not infantry to skill into vehicles. Sounds legit.
Although it sounds legit, it is not. The main reason is that it will lead to respec speculation. Very very few players really respec into vehicles if they have never did it before. Most of them just rebalance infantry skills.
Sounds like you didn't catch my sarcasm, although it can be hard through text so I guess that's my fault mostly.
It's just so wrong to allow pilots to skill out of vehicles, but not infantry to skill into vehicles.
Either vehicles aren't changed to such a degree that pilots should get the option to skill out of them (since they chose to skill into vehicles, and that choice should have consequences) or vehicles are changed to such a degree that it wouldn't be fair to not give pilots a chance to skill out of vehicles, however if you give pilots this chance you must give infantry the same chance to skill into vehicles as they had no way of knowing vehicles would be changed like this when they chose to skill into infantry,
It's that simple really, unfortunately CCP tends to ignore logic.
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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.12.06 07:52:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:Hmm Idk I think its pretty fair that only pilots get the respec and not infantry pilots have gone through hell and back. I really doubt that infantry players will skill into vehicles.
Have you asked every infantry player whether they want to skill into vehicles because they like what they'll be like with these changes? You seriously can't sit there and say that no infantry player would like to skill into vehicles. If that's the case then why would pilots want to skill out of vehicles? Force the refunded SP to be put back into the vehicle skill tree then.
Letting pilots skill out of vehicles, but not infantry into vehicles is so dumb and it has caused me to leave the game for good as I refuse to play a game where the players are treated like this.
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