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Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 61	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:03:00 - [1] - Quote From what i heard, there will be new weapons and suits for each class. I do hope there will be a respec in 1.7 if that is the case. 2 reasons 1st. You should have put all the races in the beginning (The Uprising 1.1 patch). It was weird as hell seeing only amarr heavy. I was like "wtf?" I would have gotten what i needed if they were there already. 2nd. I don't think it is humane to have us save up another 2 - 3 mill just to spec into a new suit. I am almost done with my proto forge suit, all i have to do is max out the pg and cpu to lvl 5 and i'm done. I don't want to have to use up the sp i saved for that just to get another suit. It will be just total crap because i spent weeks getting this sp and i have plans on what to use it on, it would be disrupted and a waste of time having to play this game knowing i could have gotten what i needed knowing that a respec would have been necessary for this patch. If you can't give us a respec could you at least fix the forge gun bug i constantly get in corp battles and sometimes get in pub matches. I do not lag and my forge gun won't fire sometimes when i hold the button. Then i would let go of the button and it would release the blast and waste my ammo. It can be frustrating at times, especially when i am responsible on covering an objective. It messed me up quite a few times in PC matches, some with STB vs OH and AE. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5135	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:04:00 - [2] - Quote We've been over this, dude. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 61	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:05:00 - [3] - Quote what do you mean by that? The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 939	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:07:00 - [4] - Quote Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis In the world of DUST/ The words are all in haiku/ Tweets are just too long
Pje251296 KILL ORDERS 154	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:07:00 - [5] - Quote The amount of respec threads is too high
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 61	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:08:00 - [6] - Quote Pje251296 wrote: The amount of respec threads is too high that is a good thing, you know that right? The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3012	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:10:00 - [7] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5136	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:10:00 - [8] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: Pje251296 wrote: The amount of respec threads is too high that is a good thing, you know that right? Only as a "one off" thing. But not as a constant feature. I can understand CCP handing out one more respec (forcing everyone to reallocate their SP) if the skill tree gets overhauled, every core racial suit gets added, core racial weapons get added, vehicles get taken away that you skilled into, etc. But I will NEVER endorse in any way, shape or form, a respec as a constant feature. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Public Disorder. 558	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:10:00 - [9] - Quote I have seen zero confirmation that suits are coming in 1.7. More than likely not happening, and we just get a new SI, two new weapons and the vehicle rebalance, which might or might not involve a partial respec. With that said, I have lately thought that it is entirely possible that CCP just delays the next patch for another month or 3 to get the suits out and get the final respec out of the way. Not like they don't mind keeping people waiting for core content. Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5136	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:13:00 - [10] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: I have seen zero confirmation that suits are coming in 1.7. Actually, during the recent Eve Vegas 2013 conference, the Devs hinted at the likelihood of introducing more racial scout suits in addition to the new weapons, maybe new equipment, new socket, rebalanced vehicles, etc. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.

Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 63	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:15:00 - [11] - Quote mmmhm. They also mentioned something about the gallente heavy. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:20:00 - [12] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? Don't rise to it dude He probably also thinks vehicle users shouldn't get any form of respec as they should've predicted that the vehicles would be completely reworked and certain vehicles removed too lol Join the Revolution
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 373	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:24:00 - [13] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: More than likely not happening, and we just get a new SI, two new weapons and the vehicle rebalance... Sorry, all the content you have mentioned here has been pushed back to 1.8. Didn't you get the memo? {:)}{3GÇó>
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 64	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:25:00 - [14] - Quote speaking of vehicles, i am going to have a hell of time with this game as it grows. I just love popping tanks :). Keeping them tanks rolling :O The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Public Disorder. 561	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:38:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: I have seen zero confirmation that suits are coming in 1.7. Actually, during the recent Eve Vegas 2013 conference, the Devs hinted at the likelihood of introducing more racial scout suits in addition to the new weapons, maybe new equipment, new socket, rebalanced vehicles, etc. Look back at last years fanfest. Then tell me about what they said in Vegas. People need to get around this idea that what CCP says can be counted on. It cannot. CCP has absolutely no credibility with their promises. If you still trust them, that is on you, and I hope you enjoy disapointment. But I reiterate, that at no point has anyone at CCP said that suits are coming in 1.7. If you have a source for such a statement, please provide it. Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1950	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:48:00 - [16] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Dear CCP, Since nearly half of the racial variants and a plethora of weapons have yet to be released can we get a RESPEC to allow our player base access to these items without asking them to grind for 2 or 3 months. Not to mention that many things have changed dramatically as you've struggled with mechanics and the balance of the items that have been released. Thanks in advance, Thor Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1950	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:52:00 - [17] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? Mobius is a good dude, a very intelligent person as well, but we don't see eye to eye on this issue. With the amount of stuff still to come I don't see how they can't give a respec. Even if it's just Dropsuit and Weapon skills. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 621	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:54:00 - [18] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: 1st. You should have put all the races in the beginning (The Uprising 1.1 patch). It was weird as hell seeing only amarr heavy. I was like "wtf?" I would have gotten what i needed if they were there already. I really don't understand this point of view, to be honest. To me it just sounds like "I spent my money on X, then Y came along and it is better, so I want a refund for X". By that logic I should get a refund for almost everything I ever bought: computers, TVs, cars... Actually, yes, I like this idea. Now that Sony have released the PS4 they should refund me for my PS3, yes? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 943	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:55:00 - [19] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? All the skills you have don't get in the way of you skilling into something else when it becomes available. I'm sure you have plenty of banked sp at this point and will just go full proto into the gear you've been dreaming of once it is released. I know I'm sitting on 2 million sp at this point just waiting for more gear I'm interested in. Once you've skilled into that other gear you'll be able to supplement it with the skills you already have. This means that your current skills will make you a stronger player who is able to perform well in a greater variety of situations. In short, yes. Your complaining about wanting to devote all your skills into a racial variant is short sighted. Before you start Marauder we all know you have poop loads of sp so if your not banking it now that you've proto-ed out all your main focus' skills its no ones fault but your own. In the world of DUST/ The words are all in haiku/ Tweets are just too long
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7685	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:57:00 - [20] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: But I will NEVER endorse in any way, shape or form, a respec as a constant feature. Sucks for you then, since CCP is VERY interested in giving us an AUR option, since you know, business. & lmfao at the fools saying just deal with it to the people who are suffering from lack of racial content. L O L Story / Vids / OSG

Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 65	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:57:00 - [21] - Quote **** marauder, even if you have full proto for what you want to spec into, i feel that a respec is necessary for this moment. I mean why do you want to spend 3 mill on a different dropsuit. Why not get a vehichle. That is what i am going to do. When i am finished with my forge gun suit by the end of december i am going to start going into vehichles. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals EoN. 215	Posted - 2013.11.17 19:59:00 - [22] - Quote They should refund certain skill trees with the total revamp of skill trees and with the release of new content. Example they add Ammar, Caldari, and Gallente dropsuits refund all heavy dropsuit skills. I don't think a single vehicle skill remains the same we should get all sp into vehicle skills back because of that. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 267	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:02:00 - [23] - Quote Skill refund for vehicle skills due to them being changed fundamentally. Other than that, there's no reason, yet, that constitutes a full respec. I do want a respec when all racial variants for all dropsuits and vehicles are released, and hopefully that will be all at once so we won't need one again. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:02:00 - [24] - Quote Ah, yet another one. No more respecs! At most a true final respec when all content is released, be that in 2months or a year. Constant respecs will do nothing but encourage FOTM users and destroy all balance as people skew stats and invoke many unneeded nerfs/buffs. Not to mention everyone speccing into new content, finding they don't like it and crying for yet another respec. Partial respecs for changing skill trees, fine go ahead. I have mis-spent a lot of SP, even after 2 respecs (beta reset being the first) by thinking a skill would benefit me, or it became obsolete as my style changed. I recovered, lived with my mistake and committed to the grind to get what I wanted. My point is I'm not asking for that SP back, those "wasted" points are invested and may become useful again one day. Live with your choices and at the very least think of those unwanted skills as an investment, banked SP you will get back when/if it happens. CCP is pretty set in its ways about a consistent universe, a respec probably will happen, but it will be when - and only when - CCP are ready.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 460	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:03:00 - [25] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? Yes you noob. Your Amarr; we all know that you had been informed of the visions. Just because you decided to not use your knowledge of the future and chose to squander what you had on the 'now' does not mean you are entitled to a respec. Damn these young upstarts! Damn Imperials! Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
ThePlayerkyle13 D3LTA ACADEMY 16	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:03:00 - [26] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis They didn't say that they're done with Respecs & I've talked to them about it & this is what they said: "Hi, Unfortunately the skill point respec was a one-time only offer and no plans has been made about a second one. I suggest you to keep an eye on the official channels such as Forum and Website, for further information. Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again."
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 946	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:09:00 - [27] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: Don't rise to it dude He probably also thinks vehicle users shouldn't get any form of respec as they should've predicted that the vehicles would be completely reworked and certain vehicles removed too lol No I think vehicle users should get a refund for the skills they have that no longer exist once 1.7 hits. In the world of DUST/ The words are all in haiku/ Tweets are just too long
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 946	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:10:00 - [28] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis They didn't say that they're done with Respecs & I've talked to them about it & this is what they said: "Hi, Unfortunately the skill point respec was a one-time only offer and no plans has been made about a second one. I suggest you to keep an eye on the official channels such as Forum and Website, for further information. Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again." Actually they did. Right after the optional respec giving at the beginning of uprising their was a dev post about how there would never be a respect given again. I'd search for it but it would take to darn long with all the similarly themed posts. You're welcome to look for it if you have the time to do so. In the world of DUST/ The words are all in haiku/ Tweets are just too long
DoubleTap420 Pradox One Proficiency V. 119	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:14:00 - [29] - Quote I would love a respec but if dont get it no big deal. I hope ccp gives one tho it would free up 6mill of wasted sp I spent out of boredom trying stuff out. Long live scouts! We will prevail one day. Minja time...cant touch this! I make the Minnie. The Minnie dont make me.
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 556	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:17:00 - [30] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: More than likely not happening, and we just get a new SI, two new weapons and the vehicle rebalance... Sorry, all the content you have mentioned here has been pushed back to *Insert next patch number here*. Didn't you get the memo? Fixed My Limbus' name is Sarah. My Freedom's name is Jeremi. They both would like to say hi.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7685	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:17:00 - [31] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? Yes you noob. Your Amarr; we all know that you had been informed of the visions. Just because you decided to not use your knowledge of the future and chose to squander what you had on the 'now' does not mean you are entitled to a respec. Damn these young upstarts! This response is so stupid I walked into a wall reading it, while sitting down, outside, in a field. Story / Vids / OSG
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 946	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:20:00 - [32] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? Yes you noob. Your Amarr; we all know that you had been informed of the visions. Just because you decided to not use your knowledge of the future and chose to squander what you had on the 'now' does not mean you are entitled to a respec. Damn these young upstarts! This response is so stupid I walked into a wall reading it, while sitting down, outside, in a field. This is a failure of the forum role-player to understand that he seems really stupid when he tries to argue in character. Its not funny in this case either. In the world of DUST/ The words are all in haiku/ Tweets are just too long
Joel II X AHPA 164	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:22:00 - [33] - Quote What if you get a respec once every racial item comes out? All suits, weapons, etc? That way, everybody is happy.
Sylwester Dziewiecki 200	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:45:00 - [34] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: From what i heard, there will be new weapons and suits for each class. I do hope there will be a respec in 1.7 if that is the case. 2 reasons 1st. You should have put all the races in the beginning (The Uprising 1.1 patch). It was weird as hell seeing only amarr heavy. I was like "wtf?" I would have gotten what i needed if they were there already. 2nd. I don't think it is humane to have us save up another 2 - 3 mill just to spec into a new suit. I am almost done with my proto forge suit, all i have to do is max out the pg and cpu to lvl 5 and i'm done. I don't want to have to use up the sp i saved for that just to get another suit. It will be just total crap because i spent weeks getting this sp and i have plans on what to use it on, it would be disrupted and a waste of time having to play this game knowing i could have gotten what i needed knowing that a respec would have been necessary for this patch. If you can't give us a respec could you at least fix the forge gun bug i constantly get in corp battles and sometimes get in pub matches. I do not lag and my forge gun won't fire sometimes when i hold the button. Then i would let go of the button and it would release the blast and waste my ammo. It can be frustrating at times, especially when i am responsible on covering an objective. It messed me up quite a few times in PC matches, some with STB vs OH and AE. Hope dies last ^^
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7685	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:47:00 - [35] - Quote Joel II X wrote: What if you get a respec once every racial item comes out? All suits, weapons, etc? That way, everybody is happy. I think 1.7 will have all the racial suits and a respec, honestly. If not 1.7, then 1.8 with no doubts in my mind. You'd think they'd want to push out dropsuits first, as they're the most "popular" in terms of overall use, and perhaps the removal of 10 assets (vehicles) would provide the breathing room needed to release suits with 1.7 It will all be in one fell swoop, or very close together, so that way the only valid argument for a full respec (core content) will be squashed, players will be thrilled, and they can take their time implementing and balancing a paid SP buyback option, like the booster they've shown interest in. The logistics of doing any form of SP refund is a nightmare as it is, make every dev go in by hand and remove certain skill trees only? Lmao, yea, keep dreaming. Story / Vids / OSG
ReGnYuM UnReaL. 1347	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:51:00 - [36] - Quote The suit grind is the worst grind. I have proto Cal, Min, anmrr assualt and one Cal Logi Thinking I will go proto gallente when dust comes to PS4 If you never heard of ReGnYuM, you're neither Good or Relevant in Dust 514. KDR>ALL Sig Move: Figure 8 of Death
Oswald Rehnquist 617	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:55:00 - [37] - Quote If you didn't save your sp, then that is on your, I haven't spent any points in suits because I am still waiting on my caldari scout, and have 3 mil saved up The idea that that you can spend like a blitzed Betsy and be reimbursed because you couldn't wait is silly. I would understand if they removed content or radically changed what you skilled into, but there will always be more content added, so respec for more content is a big no in my book. Below 28 dB
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 139	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:01:00 - [38] - Quote Disagree, their are people who save up for future content, that would be a slap in the face to then and don't count core skills as part of skilling a suit,nor weapons and it'll take like a week to get adv in your new specialization maybe 1 more for proto start saving Also I have alts collect passive for months to test content,2 to be precise , 1 vehicle alt and 1 infantry alt. Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Free tacos
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7685	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:08:00 - [39] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: Disagree, their are people who save up for future content, that would be a slap in the face to then and don't count core skills as part of skilling a suit,nor weapons and it'll take like a week to get adv in your new specialization maybe 1 more for proto start saving Also I have alts collect passive for months to test content,2 to be precise , 1 vehicle alt and 1 infantry alt. There's a massive difference between saving for future content, and saving for core content that should have been past content but instead has become "future" content through lack of ability to properly implement said core material in time for the official release of the game on May 14, 2013 I'm more worried about people just up and leaving the game forever because all the time they invested becomes obsolete or drastically altered, than I am about a few people who like to sit on SP, "just in case". Story / Vids / OSG
GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Public Disorder. 568	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:16:00 - [40] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: and it'll take like a week to get adv in your new specialization maybe 1 more for proto start saving Math fail. Mr. Hybrid Vayu

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 891	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:38:00 - [41] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: what do you mean by that? he means: use the effin search function.
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 59	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:39:00 - [42] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: From what i heard, there will be new weapons and suits for each class. I do hope there will be a respec in 1.7 if that is the case. 2 reasons 1st. You should have put all the races in the beginning (The Uprising 1.1 patch). It was weird as hell seeing only amarr heavy. I was like "wtf?" I would have gotten what i needed if they were there already. 2nd. I don't think it is humane to have us save up another 2 - 3 mill just to spec into a new suit. I am almost done with my proto forge suit, all i have to do is max out the pg and cpu to lvl 5 and i'm done. I don't want to have to use up the sp i saved for that just to get another suit. It will be just total crap because i spent weeks getting this sp and i have plans on what to use it on, it would be disrupted and a waste of time having to play this game knowing i could have gotten what i needed knowing that a respec would have been necessary for this patch. If you can't give us a respec could you at least fix the forge gun bug i constantly get in corp battles and sometimes get in pub matches. I do not lag and my forge gun won't fire sometimes when i hold the button. Then i would let go of the button and it would release the blast and waste my ammo. It can be frustrating at times, especially when i am responsible on covering an objective. It messed me up quite a few times in PC matches, some with STB vs OH and AE. +1 i support ALL respec threads. I want an Amarr and Caldari Scout and i dont want to have to wait 4-5 months AFTER they come out to use them. Respec plis.
Leithe Askarii Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 6	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:50:00 - [43] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Or you smarmy SOB some of us have been forced to skill into skills we never wanted to use in order to be useful because they could not get their content together to provide us will options in a release game. On my main I went Gallente HAV and Caldari HAV, never mind that I only ever wanted to use Amarr HAV.....
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5140	Posted - 2013.11.17 21:59:00 - [44] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: I have seen zero confirmation that suits are coming in 1.7. Actually, during the recent Eve Vegas 2013 conference, the Devs hinted at the likelihood of introducing more racial scout suits in addition to the new weapons, maybe new equipment, new socket, rebalanced vehicles, etc. Look back at last years fanfest. Then tell me about what they said in Vegas. People need to get around this idea that what CCP says can be counted on. It cannot. CCP has absolutely no credibility with their promises. If you still trust them, that is on you, and I hope you enjoy disapointment. But I reiterate, that at no point has anyone at CCP said that suits are coming in 1.7. If you have a source for such a statement, please provide it. Then what do you want me to rely on? Your word over their's? They're the only direct source of information we can rely on even if the information they posted is usually prefixed with the infamous word "SOON". And so what if they delayed a lot of things since years past? Delays are part of the norm of development. Plain and simple. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 744	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:23:00 - [45] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis they are removing aspects entirely from the game most characters with sp spent in vehicles will have a partial respec
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 60	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:26:00 - [46] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: they are removing aspects entirely from the game most characters with sp spent in vehicles will have a partial respec Well then;when Amar scouts and caldari scouts come out then i want all my SP invested in Dropsuits back.So i can place it where its supposed to be. And since i have almost 6-7 Million in AV weaponry ONLY, and they are getting a complete rework, i want that SP back too. :3
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 952	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:57:00 - [47] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis they are removing aspects entirely from the game most characters with sp spent in vehicles will have a partial respec Yes and as I stated in an earlier posting in this tread I agree with this since the skills players invested in are being removed. They aren't really getting a respec in this case but a refunding of the skills that are no longer present. Fun > Realism
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz 495	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:02:00 - [48] - Quote Apparently we should always grind out and have 1 million SP as back up, just in case CCP decides to add content or modify content that changes the game completely at no fault of your own.
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 68	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:17:00 - [49] - Quote Rizlax Yazzax wrote: Ah, yet another one. No more respecs! At most a true final respec when all content is released, be that in 2months or a year. Constant respecs will do nothing but encourage FOTM users and destroy all balance as people skew stats and invoke many unneeded nerfs/buffs. Not to mention everyone speccing into new content, finding they don't like it and crying for yet another respec. Partial respecs for changing skill trees, fine go ahead. I have mis-spent a lot of SP, even after 2 respecs (beta reset being the first) by thinking a skill would benefit me, or it became obsolete as my style changed. I recovered, lived with my mistake and committed to the grind to get what I wanted. My point is I'm not asking for that SP back, those "wasted" points are invested and may become useful again one day. Live with your choices and at the very least think of those unwanted skills as an investment, banked SP you will get back when/if it happens. CCP is pretty set in its ways about a consistent universe, a respec probably will happen, but it will be when - and only when - CCP are ready. destroy balance? wtf are you talking about. Just spec into the new material they have instead of wasting months of sp The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 464	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:17:00 - [50] - Quote a respect keeps things fresh. like i give a damn if people get stronger, only the weak are afraid of respects.

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 535	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:19:00 - [51] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: a respect keeps things fresh. like i give a damn if people get stronger, only the weak are afraid of respects. Respec*, as in respecialization. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1255	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:36:00 - [52] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? In a way yes. You chose to do what you did. Either you didn't look at the limited selections available or you chose to ignore them but you chose to do it. I understand that you wanted to play a certain way but you can only play with the toys we have and you chose the empty box. No one forced you to put your SP into an underdeveloped skill tree but you chose to. No one forced you to keep putting SP into frame size that is limited but you chose to. You chose everything about the game you are playing just like everyone else and you are unhappy with your choices. You were shortsighted and now you are posting a QQ thread about it and being trolled for it. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5149	Posted - 2013.11.18 15:41:00 - [53] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: But I will NEVER endorse in any way, shape or form, a respec as a constant feature. Sucks for you then, since CCP is VERY interested in giving us an AUR option, since you know, business. Are you talking about the "skill back booster" that they were looking into? Last time I checked, even the most outspoken pro-respec people hate that idea. Although I don't see a problem with it given the level of restrictions it imposes. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1251	Posted - 2013.11.18 15:46:00 - [54] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Senator Snipe wrote: Pje251296 wrote: The amount of respec threads is too high that is a good thing, you know that right? Only as a "one off" thing. But not as a constant feature. I can understand CCP handing out one more respec (forcing everyone to reallocate their SP) if the skill tree gets overhauled, every core racial suit gets added, core racial weapons get added, vehicles get taken away that you skilled into, etc. But I will NEVER endorse in any way, shape or form, a respec as a constant feature. +1. Again ;) This is my take on it also. I will fight against any respec proposed until we reach the point where: 1) We have the full racial lineups for dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles - including the missing vehicle classes. 2) We have finalized dropsuit role and racial bonuses. 3) We have finalized the stats and behavior of all equipment(e.g. active scanners). 4) We have finalized the WP reward structure for the various roles(e.g. WP for damage done by swarms). 5) We have had two balancing passes on all of the above. And if that takes a year, then so be it. I support SP rollover.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7731	Posted - 2013.11.18 15:49:00 - [55] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: But I will NEVER endorse in any way, shape or form, a respec as a constant feature. Sucks for you then, since CCP is VERY interested in giving us an AUR option, since you know, business. Are you talking about the "skill back booster" that they were looking into? Last time I checked, even the most outspoken pro-respec people hate that idea. Although I don't see a problem with it given the level of restrictions it imposes. I think most people are ok with it, aside from it costing AUR. I'm just saying that CCP sees the importance of such a thing, and they've offered a number of respecs already, so don't get your hopes up that we won't get another. Evidence shows that the chances of us getting a respec are higher than not getting a respec, regardless of how it ultimately plays out Words / Vids / OSG
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 68	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:41:00 - [56] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Senator Snipe wrote: Pje251296 wrote: The amount of respec threads is too high that is a good thing, you know that right? Only as a "one off" thing. But not as a constant feature. I can understand CCP handing out one more respec (forcing everyone to reallocate their SP) if the skill tree gets overhauled, every core racial suit gets added, core racial weapons get added, vehicles get taken away that you skilled into, etc. But I will NEVER endorse in any way, shape or form, a respec as a constant feature. +1. Again ;) This is my take on it also. I will fight against any respec proposed until we reach the point where: 1) We have the full racial lineups for dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles - including the missing vehicle classes. 2) We have finalized dropsuit role and racial bonuses. 3) We have finalized the stats and behavior of all equipment(e.g. active scanners). 4) We have finalized the WP reward structure for the various roles(e.g. WP for damage done by swarms). 5) We have had two balancing passes on all of the above. And if that takes a year, then so be it. FU brother The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
TEXA5 HiTM4N Rogue Spades EoN. 269	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:42:00 - [57] - Quote im pretty sure there will be a partial. they are removing my assault dropship. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 57	Posted - 2013.11.18 23:56:00 - [58] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: Dear CCP, I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue. Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future. Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted? In a way yes. You chose to do what you did. Either you didn't look at the limited selections available or you chose to ignore them but you chose to do it. I understand that you wanted to play a certain way but you can only play with the toys we have and you chose the empty box. No one forced you to put your SP into an underdeveloped skill tree but you chose to. No one forced you to keep putting SP into frame size that is limited but you chose to. You chose everything about the game you are playing just like everyone else and you are unhappy with your choices. You were shortsightedand now you are posting a QQ thread about it and being trolled for it. Reported for admitting that you are trolling the OP My Theme
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2235	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:06:00 - [59] - Quote Why would you spec out of your LoLForge Sen. Snipez?
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 69	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:10:00 - [60] - Quote I will remain the best forge gunner in dust 514 as long as i live man. All i want is a different dropsuit. the basic has no effects whatsoever. The only thing that its good for is the extra 10% damage to vehicles, but it is not really needed. i took out tanks no problem with my aur proto sentinal suit that i am now out of. I want to max out my pg and cpu for my suit, the final level, and it will cost about 1.4-5 million to do so. I dont that **** to happen and then they come out with new suits. I would break a nail off of my pinky finger.......with my knuckles.........ya........with my knuckles. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514



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