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Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:03:00 -
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From what i heard, there will be new weapons and suits for each class. I do hope there will be a respec in 1.7 if that is the case. 2 reasons
1st. You should have put all the races in the beginning (The Uprising 1.1 patch). It was weird as hell seeing only amarr heavy. I was like "wtf?" I would have gotten what i needed if they were there already.
2nd. I don't think it is humane to have us save up another 2 - 3 mill just to spec into a new suit. I am almost done with my proto forge suit, all i have to do is max out the pg and cpu to lvl 5 and i'm done. I don't want to have to use up the sp i saved for that just to get another suit. It will be just total crap because i spent weeks getting this sp and i have plans on what to use it on, it would be disrupted and a waste of time having to play this game knowing i could have gotten what i needed knowing that a respec would have been necessary for this patch.
If you can't give us a respec could you at least fix the forge gun bug i constantly get in corp battles and sometimes get in pub matches. I do not lag and my forge gun won't fire sometimes when i hold the button. Then i would let go of the button and it would release the blast and waste my ammo. It can be frustrating at times, especially when i am responsible on covering an objective. It messed me up quite a few times in PC matches, some with STB vs OH and AE.
The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5135
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:04:00 -
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We've been over this, dude.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
61
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:05:00 -
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what do you mean by that?
The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION
939
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:07:00 -
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Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis
In the world of DUST/
The words are all in haiku/
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Pje251296
KILL ORDERS
154
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:07:00 -
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The amount of respec threads is too high |
Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
61
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:08:00 -
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Pje251296 wrote:The amount of respec threads is too high
that is a good thing, you know that right?
The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
3012
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:10:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5136
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:10:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:Pje251296 wrote:The amount of respec threads is too high that is a good thing, you know that right?
Only as a "one off" thing. But not as a constant feature.
I can understand CCP handing out one more respec (forcing everyone to reallocate their SP) if the skill tree gets overhauled, every core racial suit gets added, core racial weapons get added, vehicles get taken away that you skilled into, etc.
But I will NEVER endorse in any way, shape or form, a respec as a constant feature.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
558
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:10:00 -
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I have seen zero confirmation that suits are coming in 1.7.
More than likely not happening, and we just get a new SI, two new weapons and the vehicle rebalance, which might or might not involve a partial respec.
With that said, I have lately thought that it is entirely possible that CCP just delays the next patch for another month or 3 to get the suits out and get the final respec out of the way.
Not like they don't mind keeping people waiting for core content.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5136
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:13:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:I have seen zero confirmation that suits are coming in 1.7.
Actually, during the recent Eve Vegas 2013 conference, the Devs hinted at the likelihood of introducing more racial scout suits in addition to the new weapons, maybe new equipment, new socket, rebalanced vehicles, etc.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
63
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:15:00 -
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mmmhm. They also mentioned something about the gallente heavy.
The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:20:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted?
Don't rise to it dude
He probably also thinks vehicle users shouldn't get any form of respec as they should've predicted that the vehicles would be completely reworked and certain vehicles removed too lol
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
373
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:24:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:More than likely not happening, and we just get a new SI, two new weapons and the vehicle rebalance...
Sorry, all the content you have mentioned here has been pushed back to 1.8. Didn't you get the memo?
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Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
64
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:25:00 -
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speaking of vehicles, i am going to have a hell of time with this game as it grows. I just love popping tanks :). Keeping them tanks rolling :O
The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
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GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
561
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:38:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:I have seen zero confirmation that suits are coming in 1.7.
Actually, during the recent Eve Vegas 2013 conference, the Devs hinted at the likelihood of introducing more racial scout suits in addition to the new weapons, maybe new equipment, new socket, rebalanced vehicles, etc.
Look back at last years fanfest.
Then tell me about what they said in Vegas.
People need to get around this idea that what CCP says can be counted on. It cannot.
CCP has absolutely no credibility with their promises. If you still trust them, that is on you, and I hope you enjoy disapointment.
But I reiterate, that at no point has anyone at CCP said that suits are coming in 1.7. If you have a source for such a statement, please provide it.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION
1950
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:48:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis
Dear CCP,
Since nearly half of the racial variants and a plethora of weapons have yet to be released can we get a RESPEC to allow our player base access to these items without asking them to grind for 2 or 3 months.
Not to mention that many things have changed dramatically as you've struggled with mechanics and the balance of the items that have been released.
Thanks in advance,
Thor
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION
1950
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:52:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted?
Mobius is a good dude, a very intelligent person as well, but we don't see eye to eye on this issue. With the amount of stuff still to come I don't see how they can't give a respec.
Even if it's just Dropsuit and Weapon skills.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
621
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:54:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:1st. You should have put all the races in the beginning (The Uprising 1.1 patch). It was weird as hell seeing only amarr heavy. I was like "wtf?" I would have gotten what i needed if they were there already.
I really don't understand this point of view, to be honest.
To me it just sounds like "I spent my money on X, then Y came along and it is better, so I want a refund for X".
By that logic I should get a refund for almost everything I ever bought: computers, TVs, cars...
Actually, yes, I like this idea. Now that Sony have released the PS4 they should refund me for my PS3, yes?
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION
943
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:55:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted?
All the skills you have don't get in the way of you skilling into something else when it becomes available. I'm sure you have plenty of banked sp at this point and will just go full proto into the gear you've been dreaming of once it is released. I know I'm sitting on 2 million sp at this point just waiting for more gear I'm interested in.
Once you've skilled into that other gear you'll be able to supplement it with the skills you already have. This means that your current skills will make you a stronger player who is able to perform well in a greater variety of situations.
In short, yes. Your complaining about wanting to devote all your skills into a racial variant is short sighted.
Before you start Marauder we all know you have poop loads of sp so if your not banking it now that you've proto-ed out all your main focus' skills its no ones fault but your own.
In the world of DUST/
The words are all in haiku/
Tweets are just too long
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7685
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:57:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote: But I will NEVER endorse in any way, shape or form, a respec as a constant feature.
Sucks for you then, since CCP is VERY interested in giving us an AUR option, since you know, business.
& lmfao at the fools saying just deal with it to the people who are suffering from lack of racial content.
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Senator Snipe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
65
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:57:00 -
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**** marauder, even if you have full proto for what you want to spec into, i feel that a respec is necessary for this moment. I mean why do you want to spend 3 mill on a different dropsuit. Why not get a vehichle. That is what i am going to do. When i am finished with my forge gun suit by the end of december i am going to start going into vehichles.
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals EoN.
215
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:59:00 -
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They should refund certain skill trees with the total revamp of skill trees and with the release of new content. Example they add Ammar, Caldari, and Gallente dropsuits refund all heavy dropsuit skills. I don't think a single vehicle skill remains the same we should get all sp into vehicle skills back because of that.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
267
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:02:00 -
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Skill refund for vehicle skills due to them being changed fundamentally. Other than that, there's no reason, yet, that constitutes a full respec.
I do want a respec when all racial variants for all dropsuits and vehicles are released, and hopefully that will be all at once so we won't need one again.
Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane
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Rizlax Yazzax
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:02:00 -
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Ah, yet another one. No more respecs! At most a true final respec when all content is released, be that in 2months or a year. Constant respecs will do nothing but encourage FOTM users and destroy all balance as people skew stats and invoke many unneeded nerfs/buffs. Not to mention everyone speccing into new content, finding they don't like it and crying for yet another respec.
Partial respecs for changing skill trees, fine go ahead. I have mis-spent a lot of SP, even after 2 respecs (beta reset being the first) by thinking a skill would benefit me, or it became obsolete as my style changed. I recovered, lived with my mistake and committed to the grind to get what I wanted. My point is I'm not asking for that SP back, those "wasted" points are invested and may become useful again one day.
Live with your choices and at the very least think of those unwanted skills as an investment, banked SP you will get back when/if it happens.
CCP is pretty set in its ways about a consistent universe, a respec probably will happen, but it will be when - and only when - CCP are ready. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
460
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:03:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis Soooo lack of racial content, that I really wanted to spec into is me QQing and being short sighted?
Yes you noob. Your Amarr; we all know that you had been informed of the visions. Just because you decided to not use your knowledge of the future and chose to squander what you had on the 'now' does not mean you are entitled to a respec.
Damn these young upstarts!
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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ThePlayerkyle13
D3LTA ACADEMY
16
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:03:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis
They didn't say that they're done with Respecs & I've talked to them about it & this is what they said:
"Hi,
Unfortunately the skill point respec was a one-time only offer and no plans has been made about a second one. I suggest you to keep an eye on the official channels such as Forum and Website, for further information.
Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again."
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION
946
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:09:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote: Don't rise to it dude
He probably also thinks vehicle users shouldn't get any form of respec as they should've predicted that the vehicles would be completely reworked and certain vehicles removed too lol
No I think vehicle users should get a refund for the skills they have that no longer exist once 1.7 hits.
In the world of DUST/
The words are all in haiku/
Tweets are just too long
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION
946
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:10:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Dear CCP,
I hope there won't be a respec with 1.7. You said you were done with respecs it is important you stick to that. Anything less will encourage this "I need a respec because I messed up or want to change" QQ that is a totally short sighted perspective on the issue.
Remember to tell players that every skill is useful or will be useful. They should think of their mistakes or dead ends as an investment in the future.
Sincerely Kaethis They didn't say that they're done with Respecs & I've talked to them about it & this is what they said: "Hi, Unfortunately the skill point respec was a one-time only offer and no plans has been made about a second one. I suggest you to keep an eye on the official channels such as Forum and Website, for further information. Should you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again."
Actually they did. Right after the optional respec giving at the beginning of uprising their was a dev post about how there would never be a respect given again. I'd search for it but it would take to darn long with all the similarly themed posts. You're welcome to look for it if you have the time to do so.
In the world of DUST/
The words are all in haiku/
Tweets are just too long
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DoubleTap420
Pradox One Proficiency V.
119
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:14:00 -
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I would love a respec but if dont get it no big deal. I hope ccp gives one tho it would free up 6mill of wasted sp I spent out of boredom trying stuff out.
Long live scouts! We will prevail one day.
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Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
556
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:17:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:More than likely not happening, and we just get a new SI, two new weapons and the vehicle rebalance... Sorry, all the content you have mentioned here has been pushed back to *Insert next patch number here*. Didn't you get the memo? Fixed
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