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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:50:00 -
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I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:52:00 -
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I wouldn't want to represent this mess.
"I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1444
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:53:00 -
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Aww, I was actually hoping you'd run. |
Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:56:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why.
Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf
I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
627
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:57:00 -
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I'll be running for the CPM1 as iv previously stated.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7629
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:59:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:I'll be running for the CPM1 as iv previously stated. What is it about the position that makes you want to run? What aspect of the game would you personally focus on, or what unique views do you think you would bring to the table? Most of all, what do you feel you would do to better hear the voice of the community, were you to become a member of the CPM?
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Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:01:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP
IWS is a CCP apologist/cheerleader (although, he did call out CCP on the TTK debacle ).
I've seen Kaine Spero, Nova Knife and Laz (that french guy, whatever his name is) make very good, level headed posts. |
Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2829
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:02:00 -
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I accept your mantle and your vote
Quick, no, hard... I got all your scopes here
... and for a limited time only you can receive the 360 edition!
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
960
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:03:00 -
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I'll do it. I am a diplomat.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7629
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:04:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I accept your mantle and your vote I have no idea if you'd be a good candidate, but if your politics are even half as good as your sniping I'd be forced to check your box on the ballot
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
202
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:07:00 -
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SoTa for CPM1! Who better to get all up in CCP's grill then the king of all trolls?!
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2830
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:10:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:SoTa for CPM1! Who better to get all up in CCP's grill then the king of all trolls?! Your king of nothing srublet
Quick, no, hard... I got all your scopes here
... and for a limited time only you can receive the 360 edition!
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
628
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:10:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:I'll be running for the CPM1 as iv previously stated. What is it about the position that makes you want to run? What aspect of the game would you personally focus on, or what unique views do you think you would bring to the table? Most of all, what do you feel you would do to better hear the voice of the community, were you to become a member of the CPM?
Q)What is it about the position that makes you want to run?
A)I obviously want the game to improve, and for the community to have a better voice to CCP.
Q)What aspect of the game would you personally focus on?
A) I would put more focus on the voices of the community that im part of. (since im not going to lie, everyone including myself is going to be at least a bit biased) But the communities voice not just my own.
Q)what unique views do you think you would bring to the table?
A) While my primary goal is to be voice of the community, I have experance in (Pre), Alpha and Beta testing of quite a few games (both payed for and unpayed work) I bring that attribute although not completelly unique to the table among other things.
Q)Most of all, what do you feel you would do to better hear the voice of the community, were you to become a member of the CPM?
A)I lurk the forums constantly, Im part of many chat channels and Iv invited people many times to come talk to me about anything they want to in game. While currently I want people to meet me and talk to me so they know at least one person thats running i'll move that to them having a voice while they dont have a major identitie on the forums.
I also urge people who have possitive ideas in game who dont use the forums to post.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
741
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:17:00 -
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vote sota for cpm he will never have a problem sticking it to ccp when the *uck us over |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
469
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:I accept your mantle and your vote I have no idea if you'd be a good candidate, but if your politics are even half as good as your sniping I'd be forced to check your box on the ballot I have this image of Zan on overwatch of the voting booths
I am apparently not the only fool
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1849
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:30:00 -
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Boys club crap |
virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
336
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:35:00 -
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When the time for CPM approaches, I'll probably vote for someone who has been around for a while. I like the idea of someone who's been through the changes of the game to be there.
Of the current CPM's I've made no secret that Heinrich Jagerblitzen is my favorite, and I follow his blog quite often. I doubt he is running again which is really unfortunate.
I've heard rumours of some people maybe running , like DSTheDrunkHeavy and if the CPM are not picked by CCP I'm excited to see who runs. At this point, I feel the current CPM has busted their butt but it may be time for a breathe of fresh air.
At one point I had alot of people saying they wanted me to run but I'm not comfortable(right now) with having my real information available to the public. We shall see as DUST is my favorite game regardless of its issues.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:39:00 -
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virgindestroyer7 wrote:When the time for CPM approaches, I'll probably vote for someone who has been around for a while. I like the idea of someone who's been through the changes of the game to be there.
Of the current CPM's I've made no secret that Heinrich Jagerblitzen is my favorite, and I follow his blog quite often. I doubt he is running again which is really unfortunate.
I've heard rumours of some people maybe running , like DSTheDrunkHeavy and if the CPM are not picked by CCP I'm excited to see who runs. At this point, I feel the current CPM has busted their butt but it may be time for a breathe of fresh air.
At one point I had alot of people saying they wanted me to run but I'm not comfortable(right now) with having my real information available to the public. We shall see as DUST is my favorite game regardless of its issues.
I'm going to need a campaign manager *hint hint*
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1243
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:41:00 -
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I still want to know how we plan to elect some people fairly.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7631
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:42:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:I still want to know how we plan to elect some people fairly. Yea, I'm honestly curious if we'll even actually get elections. Like I said, it's definitely still a ways out, but I'm certainly interested to see how it all pans out.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:44:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:I'll be running for the CPM1 as iv previously stated. What is it about the position that makes you want to run? What aspect of the game would you personally focus on, or what unique views do you think you would bring to the table? Most of all, what do you feel you would do to better hear the voice of the community, were you to become a member of the CPM? Q)What is it about the position that makes you want to run? A)I obviously want the game to improve, and for the community to have a better voice to CCP. Q)What aspect of the game would you personally focus on? A) I would put more focus on the voices of the community that im part of. (since im not going to lie, everyone including myself is going to be at least a bit biased) But the communities voice not just my own. Q)what unique views do you think you would bring to the table? A) While my primary goal is to be voice of the community, I have experance in (Pre), Alpha and Beta testing of quite a few games (both payed for and unpayed work) I bring that attribute although not completelly unique to the table among other things. Q)Most of all, what do you feel you would do to better hear the voice of the community, were you to become a member of the CPM? A)I lurk the forums constantly, Im part of many chat channels and Iv invited people many times to come talk to me about anything they want to in game. While currently I want people to meet me and talk to me so they know at least one person thats running i'll move that to them having a voice while they dont have a major identitie on the forums. I also urge people who have possitive ideas in game who dont use the forums to post. Currently the community is constantly left in the dark on everything CCP has planned or is thinking on. I think beyond everything else right now CPM's actual influence on the game is minimal to the point there own opinions don't honestly matter. Our current reps have given into CCP's idea of conformity to accept the role - It needs to be broken, shattered, and smeared as a horrible concept. If we're getting monthly updates/patches, then we should get weekly reports. That should be CPM's main focus and goal - creating a stronger link between community and development. If you're unheard - you should be told so, and why.
That would be everything I'd focus on. When it comes down to helping developers see what's wrong - it would take a forum warrior reading all your posts to help guide CCP into the direction everyone wants or believes. And if it's not on there agenda, again, we should be told so and why.
They have some silly ideas of what to keep in the dark.
Though to be fair - I'd likely be booted from CPM for not kissing CCP's butt. So I'm a risky choice.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4460
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:46:00 -
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Silly humans. The CPM is controlled by me, hence your choises are invalid. However, I grew to like the human named "Heinrich Jagerblitzen", and so I gave him free will.
Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant
Beta Vet
Level 4 Forum Warrior
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7631
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Silly humans. The CPM is controlled by me, hence your choises are invalid. However, I grew to like the human named "Heinrich Jagerblitzen", and so I gave him free will. It saddens me that he likely won't be running again
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1243
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:48:00 -
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Then we should look to elect people who are specialized in a certain forum type. With a vehicle person thrown in for good measure.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
954
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:48:00 -
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I will vote for Derek the Bird
"Just another piece of duct tape"
Some love for gunners
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Cosgar
ParagonX
7807
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:57:00 -
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So we're going to try to have a fair election for a figurehead branch of diplomats forced to silenced by a NDA in a game where you can make countless alts since there's no supscription fee? Yeah, this will end well...
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:00:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:So we're going to try to have a fair election for a figurehead branch of diplomats forced to silenced by a NDA in a game where you can make countless alts since there's no supscription fee? Yeah, this will end well... We all know CCP will pick CPM again - but can't we dream? ;)
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1245
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:00:00 -
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Been my problem from the start of elected players. I am very curious about what is going to be done.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:11:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP IWS is a CCP apologist/cheerleader (although, he did call out CCP on the TTK debacle ). I've seen Kaine Spero, Nova Knife and Laz (that french guy, whatever his name is) make very good, level headed posts.
I've seen alot of troll posts from them and just genuinely ignorant responses like 'No' to certain ideas ... unless it's something they agree with they wont put it forward even if the majority ask for it
Just listened to a podcast from the CPM's and their is no mention about the broken matchmaking system .. I mean seriously that is ridiculous, everyone can see it's broken apart from them yet they think CCP selling suit skins is more important ... facepalm
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7632
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:18:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:So we're going to try to have a fair election for a figurehead branch of diplomats forced to silenced by a NDA in a game where you can make countless alts since there's no supscription fee? Yeah, this will end well... If they can track IP maybe they can give each playstation a single set of votes per election, so that way you'd have to own multiple playstations across multiple accounts just to vote more than once. Not foolproof of course, but something like that could drastically cut down the number of alt votes you'd see ottherwise.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Cosgar wrote:So we're going to try to have a fair election for a figurehead branch of diplomats forced to silenced by a NDA in a game where you can make countless alts since there's no supscription fee? Yeah, this will end well... If they can track IP maybe they can give each playstation a single set of votes per election, so that way you'd have to own multiple playstations across multiple accounts just to vote more than once. Not foolproof of course, but something like that could drastically cut down the number of alt votes you'd see ottherwise. Tracking IP's isn't reliable.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7632
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:23:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Cosgar wrote:So we're going to try to have a fair election for a figurehead branch of diplomats forced to silenced by a NDA in a game where you can make countless alts since there's no supscription fee? Yeah, this will end well... If they can track IP maybe they can give each playstation a single set of votes per election, so that way you'd have to own multiple playstations across multiple accounts just to vote more than once. Not foolproof of course, but something like that could drastically cut down the number of alt votes you'd see ottherwise. Tracking IP's isn't reliable. Well just some way to identify a given system. I'm not technically inclined so I have no idea how that works, but if there was a way to identify my system as unique and mine, then I would be forced to go out and buy a whole new system and play an alt into an active state just to get another set of votes.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1425
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:31:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:SoTa for CPM1! Who better to get all up in CCP's grill then the king of all trolls?!
I'm just going to knowingly be trolled by the first 2 words and abbreviation and say no lol.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:33:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:SoTa for CPM1! Who better to get all up in CCP's grill then the king of all trolls?! I'm just going to knowingly be trolled by the first 2 words and abbreviation and say no lol. You'd prefer the meek CPM we have now? Idc which troll gets CPM - as long as someone vocal does.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Rowdy Railgunner
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:34:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner is running for CPM. If you want this game to actually be a good shooter you would vote for me. |
Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
973
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:37:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Protocake JR wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP IWS is a CCP apologist/cheerleader (although, he did call out CCP on the TTK debacle ). I've seen Kaine Spero, Nova Knife and Laz (that french guy, whatever his name is) make very good, level headed posts. I've seen alot of troll posts from them and just genuinely ignorant responses like 'No' to certain ideas ... unless it's something they agree with they wont put it forward even if the majority ask for it Just listened to a podcast from the CPM's and their is no mention about the broken matchmaking system .. I mean seriously that is ridiculous, everyone can see it's broken apart from them yet they think CCP selling suit skins is more important ... facepalm
Right. I haven't seen those posts from them, or what thread they were posting on so I can't comment.
About the matchmaking though, it's a little more complicated than "FIx tHA matHCHmaking pls!!!11!1" and then it magically gets done. CCP has dug themselves into a hole where there are simply too many variables and (most importantly) not enough players.
The solutions to the matchmaking issues are obvious, however, unless you want to wait 5 minutes to get into a lobby with only 3 guys on the enemy team, we aren't going to get any significant matchmaking fixes until the player base increases. |
DiGreatDestroyer
Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:53:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:So we're going to try to have a fair election for a figurehead branch of diplomats forced to silenced by a NDA in a game where you can make countless alts since there's no supscription fee? Yeah, this will end well...
Make it so only people with a certain number of likes could vote:
something betwen 100 and 1000 likes |
Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:00:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:Protocake JR wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP IWS is a CCP apologist/cheerleader (although, he did call out CCP on the TTK debacle ). I've seen Kaine Spero, Nova Knife and Laz (that french guy, whatever his name is) make very good, level headed posts. I've seen alot of troll posts from them and just genuinely ignorant responses like 'No' to certain ideas ... unless it's something they agree with they wont put it forward even if the majority ask for it Just listened to a podcast from the CPM's and their is no mention about the broken matchmaking system .. I mean seriously that is ridiculous, everyone can see it's broken apart from them yet they think CCP selling suit skins is more important ... facepalm Right. I haven't seen those posts from them, or what thread they were posting on so I can't comment. About the matchmaking though, it's a little more complicated than "FIx tHA matHCHmaking pls!!!11!1" and then it magically gets done. CCP has dug themselves into a hole where there are simply too many variables and (most importantly) not enough players. The solutions to the matchmaking issues are obvious, however, unless you want to wait 5 minutes to get into a lobby with only 3 guys on the enemy team, we aren't going to get any significant matchmaking fixes until the player base increases.
It's a catch 22 situation because the matchmaking is the reason player retention is so poor which stops the player base increasing which in turns means that it's hard to fix matchmaking/the current matchmaking system to work properly ....
Looking at the server and player stats they are all on the decline over the past 6 months. obviously there are peaks and troughs but the general trend is downwards
This isn't me saying the game is dying, it's just clear that the numbers aren't increasing which means we can't wait around in the hope the player numbers increase because it simply isn't happening
I really really want this game to succeed and become everything CCP envisioned it could become
Maybe PVE is the answer, maybe meta level gamemodes is the answer but we all agree anythign is better than what we have right now xD
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virgindestroyer7
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
337
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:05:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:virgindestroyer7 wrote:When the time for CPM approaches, I'll probably vote for someone who has been around for a while. I like the idea of someone who's been through the changes of the game to be there.
Of the current CPM's I've made no secret that Heinrich Jagerblitzen is my favorite, and I follow his blog quite often. I doubt he is running again which is really unfortunate.
I've heard rumours of some people maybe running , like DSTheDrunkHeavy and if the CPM are not picked by CCP I'm excited to see who runs. At this point, I feel the current CPM has busted their butt but it may be time for a breathe of fresh air.
At one point I had alot of people saying they wanted me to run but I'm not comfortable(right now) with having my real information available to the public. We shall see as DUST is my favorite game regardless of its issues.
I'm going to need a campaign manager *hint hint*
why is it weird to me to see manage and SoTa in the same sentence?? lol
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2200
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:12:00 -
[40] - Quote
I'm probably not going to run for CPM. Although I think the elections should come here sooner since most of the CPM is not active. |
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
357
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:19:00 -
[41] - Quote
Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP Nova knife?
Assassination is my thing.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
962
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:27:00 -
[42] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why.
For the record, while I would support all aspects of the game, my three primary focuses would be: New player experience, PvE, and aerial vehicles.
Of course you know that I'm interested |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
833
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:34:00 -
[43] - Quote
I'm interested in making this game better and through that increase the game's playerbase - to have healthy large base of dusters to play with!
If CPM members would be able to contribute into that and if there would be CPM elections, I would consider running.
I'm interested in particular: - New player experience - Market - Reaching a great gameplay balance before introducing too many elements into the mix - Enough variation in the game modes, maps and map infra in order to avoid repetition in gameplay - Introducing 'thousand papercut' program for Dust devs: will to tackle those hundreds of easily fixable minor issues which tend to stack up and make our lives miserable on the whole - Making sure devs and CCP lead will at least give an ear to valid criticiscm
And those who have followed my posts might agree that I try to see both sides of the coin as things are rarely black and white.
Thank you for reading. /Kero
Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance?
The fix:
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
2208
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:37:00 -
[44] - Quote
If I was CPM, which I don't think I want to be, rest assured my primary focus would be on not allowing CCP to evade important questions for years at a time. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
647
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:49:00 -
[45] - Quote
Dunno. It's definitely an attractive option but I like most ppl just would not be able to commit enough time. I would love to have a way to influence how things are developed but lets face it - it's not in the best interest of the community to have ppl around on CPM who are not hard core 'second job' type of players and know the game in and out. We want knowledgeable ppl with expertise representing us who really understand issues in the game, not some 'politicians' who are on CPM just for their own promotion. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1035
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:51:00 -
[46] - Quote
I don't.
And I guarantee that 95% of the HAV community doesn't either
Check out my corp's new website here :D
-HAND
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
647
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:52:00 -
[47] - Quote
Oh! I promise free Aurum for life to everyone who voted for me if I run and win. |
Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention
445
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:37:00 -
[48] - Quote
CPM = Cross Atu, nuff said
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7637
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:45:00 -
[49] - Quote
I think a big aspect of being a potential CPM member is having a healthy stomach for abuse, as many people have misguided notions about what the CPM is and does, for many different reasons. One thing is certain though, plenty of hate gets slung at the CPM, for basically no legitimate reason at all. So, being able to read that, day after day, and either ignore it, or respond to any valid points made within their cesspool of words; that's an admirable trait, and I think very important for a CPM members longevity. Otherwise, the mental and emotional strain might make the position not worth it overall.
On the other hand, that's why we that wish to be seen as a community, need to have level heads and treat our CPM, each other, and CPP; respectfully, and intelligently. We need to step back and look at the whole picture objectively, remembering that we're all people (except Cat Merc, anyways) and we have a responsibility to ourselves to shape the way we perceive others, so that they may perceive us in similar fashion.
Stories / Vids
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10308
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:06:00 -
[50] - Quote
Types of Commitments Time For the americas the meetings are about 2 am in the morning
Europe about 8 am
Auzzies and asians about lunch time
All on work days
Type of work Expected Turn Around on subject brought up by CCP about 24-48 hours, sometimes even less on very hot button topics. Meeting agendas are about a week long process before the meeting leaving plenty of time for research allowing you have a nice big stack of notes and unfortunately only one hour to talk about it.
Being in the current know of player issues to a various degree, or being able to comprehend and sympathize with player issues that are not shared by the general base, for example lag in PC battles.
Start to understand CCPs development process, work around and work with it, there are times you can shove a wedge in but knowing where is critically important. For example complaining about a feature already locked for 1.7 is not going to change it for 1.7 so you need to move onto options after 1.7 such as is it hotfixable? is there a hotfix bandaid option possible?
Help developers on wording of some posts, we know that developers don't make the best public speakers, classic public known example; "Your BPOs are not safe." There have been a few dozen times developers wanted to post information and passed it to the cpm real quick and the cpm saw similar like statements
Important Traits to have as a CPM Passion for both game and community - because quitting during that time is asking to get thrown under the bus :P.
Excellent communication skills - More so on being able to approach people, and get the information you're seeking.
Somewhat thicker skin - there will be people that will not like you and they will do their best to make it known.
Maturity - As in control of one's own responses, emotions, and opinions.
Approachable - you need to have this to some degree, if you bit everyone's heads off that ever comes to you, you're not representing.
Compromising - being able to let go your own side for betterment of the game.
Diplomatic - In the sense of saying the meanest things in the nicest ways.
The Baggage Things not to bring into the CPM Drama - Its not needed here ever, it detracts from working with CCP on things.
Your old allegiances - See Drama.
Angst and Irate atmospheres - The idea is to get ccp talk to you often, acting like an ******* to **** the developers off is counter productive in the CPM so doing things to annoy the crap out of the developers such as circular logic, ad hominem, and many other fallacies people employ to elevate blood pressure. These is not the same as being critical, negative, and saying no.
A Hallow Stone Wall - being a hardline on something for no good reason isn't healthy for debates either you need to have very good solid reasons as to why you're on that position should a topic of that nature show up.
[*] Your KDR - nobody honestly cares how good you are with an weapon x here, its more about how to nerf the damn thing when its obvious you are far far far from alone on that type of KDR on the same weapon.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
302
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:06:00 -
[51] - Quote
I've begun to consider the idea of running for CPM when it comes up. Whether I run or not I do feel strongly that the next evolution of the CPM should have a cross section of experience levels which will give some different perspective to the internal workings of the CPM, their interaction with CCP, and more importantly the community. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that I want experienced players on the CPM that don't have axes to grind and can see the perspective of different facets of the player base and work in a positive and realistic fashion with CCP.
I'm sitting at 14mil SP, not a new player and not closed Beta guy. I'm an average player that invests consistent time and occasionally money and I'm genuinely enjoying the game and particularly the Dust/EVE community...yes, event this forum.
In terms of the the things I would like to see the CPM focus discussion with CCP on are NPE and player retention, developing the EVE / Dust linkage (which is what truly sets this game apart from any other FPS), and injecting some additional diversity in gameplay modes, contracts, and events. Probably goes without saying but I'm pretty sure we are all looking for full racial kits and additional options that deepen the game play. |
Zatara Rought
Imperfects
1681
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:13:00 -
[52] - Quote
Posting in an epic thread. If I still have the same level of stamina and veracity for playing this game when the elections roll around...who knows.
That's Master nader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2199
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:20:00 -
[53] - Quote
Not a chance in hell.
Wouldn't touch that with a 50 foot pole.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
566
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:24:00 -
[54] - Quote
No.
Munch
What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7640
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:24:00 -
[55] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote: - Epic Post - That definitely deserves its own stickied thread, just sayin'
Stories / Vids
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Knight Soiaire
R 0 N 1 N
3311
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:25:00 -
[56] - Quote
I wouldn't.
But we need people who actually, regularely play the game, I've only ever seen each CPM, once.
(Except for Nova, I've seen him twice, he also crashed into my Maddie with a Soma, causing me to die, so if he has anything to say on vehicle balance, CCP are best ignoring him)
Some of them aren't as good as your average blueberry.
Save General John Ripper!
Catz Addict
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10314
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:32:00 -
[57] - Quote
Also being CPM can suck up quite a bit of your free and game play time.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
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Cass Caul
314
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:54:00 -
[58] - Quote
I'm interested in being on the CPM. I like this game. A lot. I want the game to thrive. I've been a Scout since closed beta, but Uprising screwed me over. It made me slower, took away a module slot, took away the type-II version, reduced melee damage by 100 point, until 1.6 shotgun was unreliable at best. The sniper Rifle cannot keep up with the increase HP between the teirs. So I expanded. I've got a ADV Cal Logi (skilled into after the "nerf" btw), I'm 4 days from my proto Gallente Logi. Next SP investment is an Assault suit . Assault Rifle is the only weapon I don't have any points inm but I have 4 alts in the 4 Assault suits, 3 skilled into AR.
And a heavy alt.
I've been in a lot of leadership roles in my time, a few committees, and am familiar with NDAs.
IWS wrote:Start to understand CCPs development process... I think that's the reason I want the position the most, so I can see how they work.
I'm an on-and-off-again EVE player. Account was started in '06. I love the EVE-DUST connections. From expendable equipment to the fitting screens.
+ÉߦëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10316
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:06:00 -
[59] - Quote
KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I'm interested in making this game better and through that increase the game's playerbase - to have healthy large base of dusters to play with!
If CPM members would be able to contribute into that and if there would be CPM elections, I would consider running.
I'm interested in particular: - New player experience - Market - Reaching a great gameplay balance before introducing too many elements into the mix - Enough variation in the game modes, maps and map infra in order to avoid repetition in gameplay - Introducing 'thousand papercut' program for Dust devs: will to tackle those hundreds of easily fixable minor issues which tend to stack up and make our lives miserable on the whole - Making sure devs and CCP lead will at least give an ear to valid criticiscm
And those who have followed my posts might agree that I try to see both sides of the coin as things are rarely black and white.
Thank you for reading. /Kero
NPE there is a chance of but you have to understand most of this is in Game Development's hands, we're still waiting on execution on a few backlogged suggestions and only repeat the long list of wants when asked for instead of wasting time in other meetings repeating the subject.
Market we recently had a fruitful discussion with and to great extent so far has been very wonderful on the progress we're making with them so far. Expect some changes in values.
Game Balance identification and turn around (the time from knowing its out of balance to time of fix) is something the CPM has continued to stress upon and wished that CCP had staffing on the team responsible to handle the wanted workload. I am not sure how long or what it would take to fix it, but the CPM and community has expressed it pretty clearly. There are some plans to help alleviate balance issues as they appear on newer items but as for fixing things that are major systems such as TTK environment eats up a significant amount of time away from future features as well.
Game modes has been something the CPM has been asking for as well but with the roadmap focusing on core, the new game modes were set aside.
Thousand Paper-cuts you say? This could be an opportunity by a prospective CPM candidate to start up and run, after all the eve online thousand paper cuts was and still ran by a regular non csm member. I used to be able to do them but with my time in college and CPM now having a back log I can no longer maintain such list.
CPM has been stressing this as well, and its beginning to look serious on CCP's end with the new EP pushing things around, for example the new gun stats and vehicle stats that came out.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1390
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:11:00 -
[60] - Quote
I probably don't have a lot of support behind me, but you can be sure that I would be neutral in all circumstances, which is probably one of the best reasons for me to be on the CPM.
I don't want to be someone that can sway CCP to do things in order to buff/nerf things that I currently use/don't use. I represent my points with facts and I base my opinions off of them, instead of just having some sort of opinion with nothing to back it up.
I'm also a very active member in terms of both playing and the forums, and I am not in any corp nor do I support one corp or the other. Like I said before I am completely neutral.
As a CPM I'd like to help improve the forums and the structure of how we communicate with CCP. As of right now the forums are a giant mess and topics will come and go within days. That is why I have created the List of Most Important Threads which you can find in my signature down below. This helps preserve some of the things that CCP still needs to fix, or just important threads in general that should be saved for safe keeping.
As for gameplay, the most important thing to me is the NPE (new player experience). I feel that the direction CCP has taken the NPE is completely the opposite of what they should be doing, and that we need some sort of system that makes the game feel easier and less complicated to get into. For instance, some sort of way to buy pre-fitted dropsuits that have a list of skills that they require. As you gain skill points you can see how far along you are in terms of buying the next skill needed for that fitting. Once you have all of the needed skills you can start buying those dropsuits, and figure out the next dropsuit setup you want to save up skill points for. Also, new players need to be able to experience more weapons/suits in the beginning besides the AR and medium suits.
Along with my list of most important threads, I would make sure to stay in constant communication with our playerbase. This is what I feel to be the main job of the CPM. I want to be someone that can find the gems in the huge mess that is the forums in order to keep a record of even the littlest of things that might be worth mentioning to CCP. I want to make sure that the people playing this game providing feedback are being heard and not ignored. I want to be the person that can organize discussions on certain feedback that CCP would like to hear.
And on top of it all, I have a recording device and a youtube channel that would be used as another medium to keep our playerbase updated and in the know.
Links:
List of Important Topics
I make logistics videos!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1098
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:37:00 -
[61] - Quote
So many people here pandering to the mass...
For the Empire!
Dual tanking is a sin.
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:44:00 -
[62] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:I think a big aspect of being a potential CPM member is having a healthy stomach for abuse, as many people have misguided notions about what the CPM is and does, for many different reasons. One thing is certain though, plenty of hate gets slung at the CPM, for basically no legitimate reason at all. So, being able to read that, day after day, and either ignore it, or respond to any valid points made within their cesspool of words; that's an admirable trait, and I think very important for a CPM members longevity. Otherwise, the mental and emotional strain might make the position not worth it overall.
On the other hand, that's why we that wish to be seen as a community, need to have level heads and treat our CPM, each other, and CPP; respectfully, and intelligently. We need to step back and look at the whole picture objectively, remembering that we're all people (except Cat Merc, anyways) and we have a responsibility to ourselves to shape the way we perceive others, so that they may perceive us in similar fashion.
We didn't vote for the CPM's, they are merely pawns of CCP
Clearly with all the issues this game has right now they aren't doing a very good job and I can cite countless examples of unproductive posts from certain CPM's on threads and ideas that were good yet because the CPM's didn't agree they simply said .. no .. which begs the question .. do they actually forward on our ideas and problems to CCP or just forward the ones that affect them ?
The simple fact is that if we had voted for them as our voices then there would be an instant degree of trust that the things they were putting forward were the things that concern us the most
It seems to me the current CPM's know full well that they have their positions on the order of CCP and therefore wont say anything that harms their position, I mean who in their right mind would allow things like matchmaking and TTK to end up as broken as they are right now ? They tread softly softly around the real issues instead of actually saying .. look, this is gamebreaking and needs fixing ASAP
There is far too much talking about what they will do in the future (soon tm) and not enough action and i'm sorry but after 6 months + of this the current CPM's need replacing because they aren't doing their jobs properly
This may sound harsh but now there has been a change at CCP we need a change of CPM's as well, let's have a fresh start
Join the Revolution
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Starfire Revo
DUST University Ivy League
153
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:49:00 -
[63] - Quote
I'll be running for CPM1.
- I play the game regularly and talk to people from multiple aspects of Dust on a daily basis.
- Have a good relationship with a number of CCP employees and CPM members, not afraid to call them out when needed though.
- Have worked with CCP/CPM on things like exploits, bugs and the latest tournament (as well as more upcoming stuff).
- Have experience with working in eSports in multiple ways (running tournaments, sponsored player, working in production) and would be able to give useful feedback to CCP regarding eSports.
- Want to push CCP to giving more support to third parties. Such as assets (art, sound) for Bloggers and video producers, as well as more promotion of good content. Also want to keep pushing for one of these.
- Willing to dedicate time every week to getting open feedback from players. Also willing to listen to other points of view and bring those forward.
Not sure if I'm the most popular of candidates, but I'm willing to knuckle down and put in the work required.
I make videos of EVE and Dust http://www.youtube.com/mrgimbleb
I write about EVE and Dust http://mrgimbleb.blogspot.com
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
631
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:57:00 -
[64] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Over the course of the CPM term so far there have been 0 Issues about prototype brought up by CCP. 1 instance of the AR and it was not the sole object in the subject. About 3 instances of the vehicles. 4 other instances over weapons and these all total are not even 10% of the topics discussed and thats how minor they are.
The lack of balance and these problems IWS is a major part of why the playerbase is so low and why people leave.
Thats more important then marketting.
Player retention > player aquisition
Its great to get new players but it wont matter if theres no one wanting to play it after a week.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
633
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:02:00 -
[65] - Quote
Starfire Revo wrote:I'll be running for CPM1.
- I play the game regularly and talk to people from multiple aspects of Dust on a daily basis.
- Have a good relationship with a number of CCP employees and CPM members, not afraid to call them out when needed though.
- Have worked with CCP/CPM on things like exploits, bugs and the latest tournament (as well as more upcoming stuff).
- Have experience with working in eSports in multiple ways (running tournaments, sponsored player, working in production) and would be able to give useful feedback to CCP regarding eSports.
- Want to push CCP to giving more support to third parties. Such as assets (art, sound) for Bloggers and video producers, as well as more promotion of good content. Also want to keep pushing for one of these.
- Willing to dedicate time every week to getting open feedback from players. Also willing to listen to other points of view and bring those forward.
Not sure if I'm the most popular of candidates, but I'm willing to knuckle down and put in the work required.
I support Revo here running for CPM (vote for me first though lol).
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1096
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:02:00 -
[66] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:Boys club crap I agree.
This isn't to say that I would mind running, just that I am of the opinion that whoever ran would be participating in a popularity contest rather than actually being judged based on their merits or platform.
For the record, my platform would be Eve integration (or mirroring if integration is asking too much, things such as player economy, player manufacturing/research, Company/Fleet hierarchy/boosts etc), expansion of gameplay areas (increasing open regions, expanding playable map areas/sockets, interior shared instances etc) and getting beyond the lobby while not neglecting the lobby (allowing player controlled travel though shared instances, PvE/PvPvE, outlets for battlefield player interaction that didn't require queues a.k.a. "Non-consensual PvP")
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1045
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:04:00 -
[67] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:Starfire Revo wrote:I'll be running for CPM1.
- I play the game regularly and talk to people from multiple aspects of Dust on a daily basis.
- Have a good relationship with a number of CCP employees and CPM members, not afraid to call them out when needed though.
- Have worked with CCP/CPM on things like exploits, bugs and the latest tournament (as well as more upcoming stuff).
- Have experience with working in eSports in multiple ways (running tournaments, sponsored player, working in production) and would be able to give useful feedback to CCP regarding eSports.
- Want to push CCP to giving more support to third parties. Such as assets (art, sound) for Bloggers and video producers, as well as more promotion of good content. Also want to keep pushing for one of these.
- Willing to dedicate time every week to getting open feedback from players. Also willing to listen to other points of view and bring those forward.
Not sure if I'm the most popular of candidates, but I'm willing to knuckle down and put in the work required. I support Revo here running for CPM (vote for me first though lol). I have numerous people that I would vote for CPM.
But I'm sure we could use more than one new CPM. Right?
Check out my corp's new website here :D
-HAND
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
633
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:05:00 -
[68] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote: I agree.
This isn't to say that I would mind running, just that I am of the opinion that whoever ran would be participating in a popularity contest rather than actually being judged based on their merits or platform.
Im running and im not all that popular lol.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10320
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:05:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Over the course of the CPM term so far there have been 0 Issues about prototype brought up by CCP. 1 instance of the AR and it was not the sole object in the subject. About 3 instances of the vehicles. 4 other instances over weapons and these all total are not even 10% of the topics discussed and thats how minor they are.
The lack of balance and these problems IWS is a major part of why the playerbase is so low and why people leave. Thats more important then marketting. Player retention > player aquisition Its great to get new players but it wont matter if theres no one wanting to play it after a week.
Balance issues have been brought up nearly at every chance.
Marketing is just as an important issue to say otherwise disqualifies you, proof of how important that is for player retention is to look at all the complaints about the packs, the omega booster and more.
Player Acquisition is Player retention. You do not acquire a player if he quits on day one now do we? Learn your terms a bit the words you were looking for is attraction.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
633
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:06:00 -
[70] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Starfire Revo wrote:I'll be running for CPM1.
- I play the game regularly and talk to people from multiple aspects of Dust on a daily basis.
- Have a good relationship with a number of CCP employees and CPM members, not afraid to call them out when needed though.
- Have worked with CCP/CPM on things like exploits, bugs and the latest tournament (as well as more upcoming stuff).
- Have experience with working in eSports in multiple ways (running tournaments, sponsored player, working in production) and would be able to give useful feedback to CCP regarding eSports.
- Want to push CCP to giving more support to third parties. Such as assets (art, sound) for Bloggers and video producers, as well as more promotion of good content. Also want to keep pushing for one of these.
- Willing to dedicate time every week to getting open feedback from players. Also willing to listen to other points of view and bring those forward.
Not sure if I'm the most popular of candidates, but I'm willing to knuckle down and put in the work required. I support Revo here running for CPM (vote for me first though lol). I have numerous people that I would vote for CPM. But I'm sure we could use more than one new CPM. Right?
It'll prob be 1 vote per person if they can figure out how it wont be rigged.
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Over the course of the CPM term so far there have been 0 Issues about prototype brought up by CCP. 1 instance of the AR and it was not the sole object in the subject. About 3 instances of the vehicles. 4 other instances over weapons and these all total are not even 10% of the topics discussed and thats how minor they are.
The lack of balance and these problems IWS is a major part of why the playerbase is so low and why people leave. Thats more important then marketting. Player retention > player aquisition Its great to get new players but it wont matter if theres no one wanting to play it after a week. Balance issues have been brought up nearly at every chance.
and thats all fine and dandy but if they arnt pushed as the top 5 most important issues then theres a problem. Look at my corp, this characters corp. 152 people, maybe 3 active. They all left because the lack of balance. Thats ONE corperation. Thats a problem.
Edit : I should mention, that prior to uprising and even in the first few days of uprising, these people were on at least 3 - 4 times a week.
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Draxus Prime
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:08:00 -
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possibly but definatley not for CPM 1
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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My votes go to:
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San Proficiency V.
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I'd vote for sota, we need someone on CPM who doesn't have the view of a scrub. In other words A GOOD player often has different, more educated opinions on video games. Having someone whose participated in PC, has played the game a buttload, and knows how to r@pe is whats needed.
That way they have better views on balance, priorities of what keeps the game fresh, and so on. For instance, its pretty much common knowledge the game needs a respec SOON(most would agree on doing it when racials are brought out[2.0?]) yet only kain spero is really in favor of respecs. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:14:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Over the course of the CPM term so far there have been 0 Issues about prototype brought up by CCP. 1 instance of the AR and it was not the sole object in the subject. About 3 instances of the vehicles. 4 other instances over weapons and these all total are not even 10% of the topics discussed and thats how minor they are.
The lack of balance and these problems IWS is a major part of why the playerbase is so low and why people leave. Thats more important then marketting. Player retention > player aquisition Its great to get new players but it wont matter if theres no one wanting to play it after a week. Balance issues have been brought up nearly at every chance. and thats all fine and dandy but if they arnt pushed as the top 5 most important issues then theres a problem. Look at my corp, this characters corp. 152 people, maybe 3 active. They all left because the lack of balance. Thats ONE corperation. Thats a problem. Edit : I should mention, that prior to uprising and even in the first few days of uprising, these people were on at least 3 - 4 times a week.
Sorry CCP doesn't look at claims about corporate politics but they do look at the numbers fed to them by the servers instead. While your own corp may be failing to maintain presence other corps are swelling in numbers and maintaining their numbers. The whole churning is normal, trim and weed and replant.
I am unable to claim majority of players want x or my constituent wants y. I have to show CCP or stir up trouble on showing them this is the story Z, and we need solutions to alleviate these concerns with parts of solution A B and C.
Saying the 'players want' just bad translates into 'what I want' in the cpm circle. It is almost just better to drop that part off entirely. No need to sell that further inside using such silly phrases but having a well thought out and we'll debate thread on the forums, video evidence, clicking back to community reports has helped pushed agendas that need addressing.
The other thing people are going have to accept while being in the CPM is being wrong.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:21:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:I'd vote for sota, we need someone on CPM who doesn't have the view of a scrub. In other words A GOOD player often has different, more educated opinions on video games. Having someone whose participated in PC, has played the game a buttload, and knows how to r@pe is whats needed.
That way they have better views on balance, priorities of what keeps the game fresh, and so on. For instance, its pretty much common knowledge the game needs a respec SOON(most would agree on doing it when racials are brought out[2.0?]) yet only kain spero is really in favor of respecs.
Funny Story, CPM is not responsible for any sorts of balancing. CCP Team Kong does that work, and they're far better armed at it because they have the entire player base generating numbers.
Also time and time again Pro (specialist type) players have proven to me they are more than capable of overlooking pain points often because it doesn't affect them or they're ignorant such options exist. (top of the world blindness)
Now on the other hand players who say run PC battles often, have to organize and devise tactics are the type of pro players that would be more useful as they are going to be more familiar with the stupid and smart things players do and things that are just to easy to press button to get bacon. These sorts are also quickest to adapt if you take away their favorite toy (where the other type would throw a hissy fit and refuse to adapt.)
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Over the course of the CPM term so far there have been 0 Issues about prototype brought up by CCP. 1 instance of the AR and it was not the sole object in the subject. About 3 instances of the vehicles. 4 other instances over weapons and these all total are not even 10% of the topics discussed and thats how minor they are.
The lack of balance and these problems IWS is a major part of why the playerbase is so low and why people leave. Thats more important then marketting. Player retention > player aquisition Its great to get new players but it wont matter if theres no one wanting to play it after a week. Balance issues have been brought up nearly at every chance. and thats all fine and dandy but if they arnt pushed as the top 5 most important issues then theres a problem. Look at my corp, this characters corp. 152 people, maybe 3 active. They all left because the lack of balance. Thats ONE corperation. Thats a problem. Edit : I should mention, that prior to uprising and even in the first few days of uprising, these people were on at least 3 - 4 times a week. Sorry CCP doesn't look at claims about corporate politics but they do look at the numbers fed to them by the servers instead. While your own corp may be failing to maintain presence other corps are swelling in numbers and maintaining their numbers. The whole churning is normal, trim and weed and replant. I am unable to claim majority of players want x or my constituent wants y. I have to show CCP or stir up trouble on showing them this is the story Z, and we need solutions to alleviate these concerns with parts of solution A B and C. Saying the 'players want' just bad translates into 'what I want' in the cpm circle. It is almost just better to drop that part off entirely. No need to sell that further inside using such silly phrases but having a well thought out and we'll debate thread on the forums, video evidence, clicking back to community reports has helped pushed agendas that need addressing. The other thing people are going have to accept while being in the CPM is being wrong.
Its not my corps poltics, its that nearly everyone sead, WoW, this game WAS fun, now its ****.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Mossellia Delt wrote: Its not my corps poltics, its that nearly everyone sead, WoW, this game WAS fun, now its ****.
I would like to ask you if you know how highly ineffective that statement is.
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ThePrinceOfNigeria
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:I would rather cut off my **** and shove it up my own ass personally. But then how would I inherit your fortune by sending you 500 million ISK to handle all the paperwork and legal fees?
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Karl Marx II
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:I'd vote for sota, we need someone on CPM who doesn't have the view of a scrub. In other words A GOOD player often has different, more educated opinions on video games. Having someone whose participated in PC, has played the game a buttload, and knows how to r@pe is whats needed.
That way they have better views on balance, priorities of what keeps the game fresh, and so on. For instance, its pretty much common knowledge the game needs a respec SOON(most would agree on doing it when racials are brought out[2.0?]) yet only kain spero is really in favor of respecs. Funny Story, CPM is not responsible for any sorts of balancing. CCP Team Kong does that work, and they're far better armed at it because they have the entire player base generating numbers. Also time and time again Pro (specialist type) players have proven to me they are more than capable of overlooking pain points often because it doesn't affect them or they're ignorant such options exist. (top of the world blindness) Now on the other hand players who say run PC battles often, have to organize and devise tactics are the type of pro players that would be more useful as they are going to be more familiar with the stupid and smart things players do and things that are just to easy to press button to get bacon. These sorts are also quickest to adapt if you take away their favorite toy (where the other type would throw a hissy fit and refuse to adapt.)
Certain CPM's are guilty of what you speak of anyway .. I'm looking at you Mr What the French CPM Cadezeron or whatever his name is, not accepting that there is a problem with matchmaking and protostomping in pubgames because his corp constantly does it .. how surprising lol
I've already said that it's about time all of the current CPM's did the right thing and stepped down, we've had enough of your incompetence and we didn't vote for you so we will never trust that you have all of our interests at heart and based on the game as it is now .. it honestly doesn't seem that you do
I think I saw someone use the 'Old boys club' quote and it is a very apt summary of the current CPM's and based on this thread .. there is alot of discontent and disillusionment with the job the current CPM's are doing ..
'Having a voice that doesn't listen to you and just says what it wants to say is not a voice you want speaking on your behalf'
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Atiim wrote:I have numerous people that I would vote for CPM.
But I'm sure we could use more than one new CPM. Right? It'll prob be 1 vote per person if they can figure out how it wont be rigged.
The last CSM election used a system that let people vote by ranking the candidates. This allows people to effectively vote for multiple candidates, so even if their first choice doesn't make the cut, they can still help their second or third choice get on the council. Hopefully the CPM uses a similar system.
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Void Echo
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Vote for Void Echo for CPM, Iv played for over a year now. I know what im doing.
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote: Its not my corps poltics, its that nearly everyone sead, WoW, this game WAS fun, now its ****.
I would like to ask you if you know how highly ineffective that statement is.
Im just saying Wolf, when that many people exodus at once, a problem, wether or not you care.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:59:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote: Its not my corps poltics, its that nearly everyone sead, WoW, this game WAS fun, now its ****.
I would like to ask you if you know how highly ineffective that statement is. Im just saying Wolf, when that many people exodus at once, a problem, wether or not you care.
Let me ask you again, Do you have any idea how weak your statement is?
Sit down and think about it, you're talking to a guy that works on the game and you told this to him, do you think this statement would cause action? or even a response from the developer?
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:00:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Vote for Void Echo for CPM, Iv played for over a year now. I know what im doing.
Sure
You posted a video about the current problems with matchmaking and not a single CPM has even bothered to look at it ... classy lol
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote: Its not my corps poltics, its that nearly everyone sead, WoW, this game WAS fun, now its ****.
I would like to ask you if you know how highly ineffective that statement is. Im just saying Wolf, when that many people exodus at once, a problem, wether or not you care. Let me ask you again, Do you have any idea how weak your statement is? Sit down and think about it, you're talking to a guy that works on the game and you told this to him, do you think this statement would cause action? or even a response from the developer?
Yes, because iv worked with Devs teams before and when they lost 50 people they flipped ****.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:02:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:
Certain CPM's are guilty of what you speak of anyway .. I'm looking at you Mr What the French CPM Cadezeron or whatever his name is, not accepting that there is a problem with matchmaking and protostomping in pubgames because his corp constantly does it .. how surprising lol
I've already said that it's about time all of the current CPM's did the right thing and stepped down, we've had enough of your incompetence and we didn't vote for you so we will never trust that you have all of our interests at heart and based on the game as it is now .. it honestly doesn't seem that you do
I think I saw someone use the 'Old boys club' quote and it is a very apt summary of the current CPM's and based on this thread .. there is alot of discontent and disillusionment with the job the current CPM's are doing ..
'Having a voice that doesn't listen to you and just says what it wants to say is not a voice you want speaking on your behalf'
I can't speak for Cazderon or Kain or any other CPM members for that manner but most of the time, if one member of the CPM is not particularly helpful find ANOTHER.
I find Proto Stomping a serious issue and I am sure I am not the only one of 6 that thinks so.
Why if all the CPM thought alike there be bad things happening.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:04:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:
Yes, because iv worked with Devs teams before and when they lost 50 people they flipped ****.
Also just an ineffective statement.
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP
You are an idiot, IWS, and no offence to him, is not the CPM I would go to if I had something to suggest to the devs.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Leithe Askarii wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP You are an idiot, IWS, and no offence to him, is not the CPM I would go to if I had something to suggest to the devs. Hans by far is my fav CPM simply because he has gone out of his way several times to ge people together to discuss game features and such.
Someone whose paying attention <3
If you're also wondering he has the rolled up newspaper.
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Mossellia Delt
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:
Yes, because iv worked with Devs teams before and when they lost 50 people they flipped ****.
Also just an ineffective statement.
Then tell them to look at the data
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:11:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:
Yes, because iv worked with Devs teams before and when they lost 50 people they flipped ****.
Also just an ineffective statement. Then tell them to look at the data
Let me harken this time old phrase.
"Preaching to the Choir."
or more rudely
"No @#$% Sherlock."
So we wasted what 8, 10 posts? and about an hour trying to exacerbate a symptom and not heal the source of the problem. See how inefficient and ineffective it is?
How to be more effective:
At that point the message generally winds up on that team lead's desk he looks it over analyzes it and sometimes sends a message back or gets in skype and asks a few questions or shows up in our next meeting to discuss the longer term plans on fixing things.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:24:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:I'd vote for sota, we need someone on CPM who doesn't have the view of a scrub. In other words A GOOD player often has different, more educated opinions on video games. Having someone whose participated in PC, has played the game a buttload, and knows how to r@pe is whats needed.
That way they have better views on balance, priorities of what keeps the game fresh, and so on. For instance, its pretty much common knowledge the game needs a respec SOON(most would agree on doing it when racials are brought out[2.0?]) yet only kain spero is really in favor of respecs. Funny Story, CPM is not responsible for any sorts of balancing. CCP Team Kong does that work, and they're far better armed at it because they have the entire player base generating numbers. Also time and time again Pro (specialist type) players have proven to me they are more than capable of overlooking pain points often because it doesn't affect them or they're ignorant such options exist. (top of the world blindness) Now on the other hand players who say run PC battles often, have to organize and devise tactics are the type of pro players that would be more useful as they are going to be more familiar with the stupid and smart things players do and things that are just to easy to press button to get bacon. These sorts are also quickest to adapt if you take away their favorite toy (where the other type would throw a hissy fit and refuse to adapt.) Certain CPM's are guilty of what you speak of anyway .. I'm looking at you Mr What the French CPM Cadezeron or whatever his name is, not accepting that there is a problem with matchmaking and protostomping in pubgames because his corp constantly does it .. how surprising lol I've already said that it's about time all of the current CPM's did the right thing and stepped down, we've had enough of your incompetence and we didn't vote for you so we will never trust that you have all of our interests at heart and based on the game as it is now .. it honestly doesn't seem that you do I think I saw someone use the 'Old boys club' quote and it is a very apt summary of the current CPM's and based on this thread .. there is alot of discontent and disillusionment with the job the current CPM's are doing .. 'Having a voice that doesn't listen to you and just says what it wants to say is not a voice you want speaking on your behalf' Your final point is a very good one, if you go into any political office, how can you honestly say that you're not simply in it for yourself if you do not listen to your constituency. If elected, I know that I would actively make time for any player who brought a legitimate concern to me (not a "my alliance/corp needs to be able to farm ISK via PC more easily" concern but definitely a "matchmaking is trash" concern), if I didn't, I would be doing a disservice to my office and the Dust playerbase as a whole.
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Paran Tadec
Imperfect Bastards
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I'd throw my hat into the ring. But then I'd have to play this game.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
633
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:
Yes, because iv worked with Devs teams before and when they lost 50 people they flipped ****.
Also just an ineffective statement. Then tell them to look at the data Let me harken this time old phrase. "Preaching to the Choir." or more rudely "No @#$% Sherlock." So we wasted what 8, 10 posts? and about an hour trying to exacerbate a symptom and not heal the source of the problem. See how inefficient and ineffective it is? How to be more effective: At that point the message generally winds up on that team lead's desk he looks it over analyzes it and sometimes sends a message back or gets in skype and asks a few questions or shows up in our next meeting to discuss the longer term plans on fixing things.
Could of been quicker but im playing the game while on the forums
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:29:00 -
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Leithe Askarii wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP You are an idiot, IWS, and no offence to him, is not the CPM I would go to if I had something to suggest to the devs. Hans by far is my fav CPM simply because he has gone out of his way several times to ge people together to discuss game features and such. Heinrich and Kain are the only two I've ever seen in game, AFAIK, none of the others even play the game.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1779
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:37:00 -
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I'd consider it if it wasn't for:
- The insane amount of bullshit heaped on them by the trolling public. - The ridiculous level of expectations in terms of impact they can have on the game. - The fact I'd might have to stop representing my own opinions. - The fact I wasn't here for private beta and hence probably would get two votes. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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I considered it once upon a time, but have since decided against it.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:52:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:I'd consider it if it wasn't for:
- The insane amount of bullshit heaped on them by the trolling public. - The ridiculous level of expectations in terms of impact they can have on the game. - The fact I'd might have to stop representing my own opinions. - The fact I wasn't here for private beta and hence probably would get two votes.
I can see point one two and three.
Point 4 shouldn't be much of a factor if you're a real community sort of person and can garner lots of positive attention.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:16:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Leithe Askarii wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP You are an idiot, IWS, and no offence to him, is not the CPM I would go to if I had something to suggest to the devs. Hans by far is my fav CPM simply because he has gone out of his way several times to ge people together to discuss game features and such. Heinrich and Kain are the only two I've ever seen in game, AFAIK, none of the others even play the game.
Im personally played with all the CPMs but the french man (but I dont think he play in pubs) and IWS (but iv seen him redline tanking because his "omni soldier" build is crappy)
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
5118
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:19:00 -
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I can't help but find some of the people suggesting they should be on the CPM amusing. 'vote 4 me im a good player'.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
1099
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I can't help but find some of the people suggesting they should be on the CPM amusing. 'vote 4 me im a good player'.
Which reminds me...
Vote for me i'm rich
For the Empire!
Dual tanking is a sin.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
883
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:24:00 -
[104] - Quote
Why join the CPM?
CCP/Shanghai can ignore me on the forums just as completely here. And here I have no false hope that they would listen. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7657
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:30:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I can't help but find some of the people suggesting they should be on the CPM amusing. 'vote 4 me im a good player'. Which reminds me... Vote for me i'm rich Feel free to continue sharing the wealth
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1249
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:32:00 -
[106] - Quote
Wow this thread took off. So have you learned anything?
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1059
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:37:00 -
[107] - Quote
Void Echo wrote:Vote for Void Echo for CPM, Iv played for over a year now. I know what im doing. F*** No
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:I'd vote for sota, we need someone on CPM who doesn't have the view of a scrub. In other words A GOOD player often has different, more educated opinions on video games. Having someone whose participated in PC, has played the game a buttload, and knows how to r@pe is whats needed.
That way they have better views on balance, priorities of what keeps the game fresh, and so on. For instance, its pretty much common knowledge the game needs a respec SOON(most would agree on doing it when racials are brought out[2.0?]) yet only kain spero is really in favor of respecs. Funny Story, CPM is not responsible for any sorts of balancing. CCP Team Kong does that work, and they're far better armed at it because they have the entire player base generating numbers. Also time and time again Pro (specialist type) players have proven to me they are more than capable of overlooking pain points often because it doesn't affect them or they're ignorant such options exist. (top of the world blindness) Now on the other hand players who say run PC battles often, have to organize and devise tactics are the type of pro players that would be more useful as they are going to be more familiar with the stupid and smart things players do and things that are just to easy to press button to get bacon. These sorts are also quickest to adapt if you take away their favorite toy (where the other type would throw a hissy fit and refuse to adapt.) Top world blindness, or adaptability, which is it? It can't be both. If a player is capable of breaking down everything and finding the best and worst option he's a good pick - but if he's capable of that it also means he's capable of noticing the little things that may irk others.
But what it really boils down too is if the 'pro' player is looking to make the gun fun or balanced. Dust has shown us the both don't always meet eye to eye. Example: AR. It's a fun weapon to use because you can meet several situations and come out on top - but it's not very balanced in regards to other weapons, making those other weapons less fun. So do you nerf the weapon of choice - or buff the weapons not enjoying themselves?
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
634
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:04:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:I'd vote for sota, we need someone on CPM who doesn't have the view of a scrub. In other words A GOOD player often has different, more educated opinions on video games. Having someone whose participated in PC, has played the game a buttload, and knows how to r@pe is whats needed.
That way they have better views on balance, priorities of what keeps the game fresh, and so on. For instance, its pretty much common knowledge the game needs a respec SOON(most would agree on doing it when racials are brought out[2.0?]) yet only kain spero is really in favor of respecs. Funny Story, CPM is not responsible for any sorts of balancing. CCP Team Kong does that work, and they're far better armed at it because they have the entire player base generating numbers. Also time and time again Pro (specialist type) players have proven to me they are more than capable of overlooking pain points often because it doesn't affect them or they're ignorant such options exist. (top of the world blindness) Now on the other hand players who say run PC battles often, have to organize and devise tactics are the type of pro players that would be more useful as they are going to be more familiar with the stupid and smart things players do and things that are just to easy to press button to get bacon. These sorts are also quickest to adapt if you take away their favorite toy (where the other type would throw a hissy fit and refuse to adapt.) Top world blindness, or adaptability, which is it? It can't be both. If a player is capable of breaking down everything and finding the best and worst option he's a good pick - but if he's capable of that it also means he's capable of noticing the little things that may irk others. But what it really boils down too is if the 'pro' player is looking to make the gun fun or balanced. Dust has shown us the both don't always meet eye to eye. Example: AR. It's a fun weapon to use because you can meet several situations and come out on top - but it's not very balanced in regards to other weapons, making those other weapons less fun. So do you nerf the weapon of choice - or buff the weapons not enjoying themselves?
Thinking the AR is fun would be wrong as well. A bullet hose that instantly downs people isnt fun, its boring. Unless you were a kid who grew up getting everything handed to you.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:10:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:I'd vote for sota, we need someone on CPM who doesn't have the view of a scrub. In other words A GOOD player often has different, more educated opinions on video games. Having someone whose participated in PC, has played the game a buttload, and knows how to r@pe is whats needed.
That way they have better views on balance, priorities of what keeps the game fresh, and so on. For instance, its pretty much common knowledge the game needs a respec SOON(most would agree on doing it when racials are brought out[2.0?]) yet only kain spero is really in favor of respecs. Funny Story, CPM is not responsible for any sorts of balancing. CCP Team Kong does that work, and they're far better armed at it because they have the entire player base generating numbers. Also time and time again Pro (specialist type) players have proven to me they are more than capable of overlooking pain points often because it doesn't affect them or they're ignorant such options exist. (top of the world blindness) Now on the other hand players who say run PC battles often, have to organize and devise tactics are the type of pro players that would be more useful as they are going to be more familiar with the stupid and smart things players do and things that are just to easy to press button to get bacon. These sorts are also quickest to adapt if you take away their favorite toy (where the other type would throw a hissy fit and refuse to adapt.) Top world blindness, or adaptability, which is it? It can't be both. If a player is capable of breaking down everything and finding the best and worst option he's a good pick - but if he's capable of that it also means he's capable of noticing the little things that may irk others. But what it really boils down too is if the 'pro' player is looking to make the gun fun or balanced. Dust has shown us the both don't always meet eye to eye. Example: AR. It's a fun weapon to use because you can meet several situations and come out on top - but it's not very balanced in regards to other weapons, making those other weapons less fun. So do you nerf the weapon of choice - or buff the weapons not enjoying themselves?
Of course you can't. Which is why you can really separate the boys from the men as one puts it. Remove forge gun splash? not going to stop a forge sniper. Just there are too many players who profess they're pros and they're really just copy cats and annoy me to no end when you try to mention the mere thought about breaking their favorite toy.
You're also right, fun and balanced is hard to see eye to eye. Its possible to get there where they can agree to a degree the game can be fun and balanced. Just potential CPM needs to be able to concede over the simple facts that maybe their view on any subject may not be the best for everyone and must be willing to bend or break their views for the betterment of the game.
As some of you may recall I am very much against respecs but lately I been having to bend and conceded on the notion because ultimately it is very harmful to deny the player base this option. However because of my opposing views i am able to throw up a number of flags to be addressed before it can make it in which would make it fair for everyone who utilizes it and keeps some views of the anti-respec preserved
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Zatara Rought
Imperfects
1683
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:I'd vote for sota, we need someone on CPM who doesn't have the view of a scrub. In other words A GOOD player often has different, more educated opinions on video games. Having someone whose participated in PC, has played the game a buttload, and knows how to r@pe is whats needed.
That way they have better views on balance, priorities of what keeps the game fresh, and so on. For instance, its pretty much common knowledge the game needs a respec SOON(most would agree on doing it when racials are brought out[2.0?]) yet only kain spero is really in favor of respecs. Funny Story, CPM is not responsible for any sorts of balancing. CCP Team Kong does that work, and they're far better armed at it because they have the entire player base generating numbers. Also time and time again Pro (specialist type) players have proven to me they are more than capable of overlooking pain points often because it doesn't affect them or they're ignorant such options exist. (top of the world blindness) Now on the other hand players who say run PC battles often, have to organize and devise tactics are the type of pro players that would be more useful as they are going to be more familiar with the stupid and smart things players do and things that are just to easy to press button to get bacon. These sorts are also quickest to adapt if you take away their favorite toy (where the other type would throw a hissy fit and refuse to adapt.) Top world blindness, or adaptability, which is it? It can't be both. If a player is capable of breaking down everything and finding the best and worst option he's a good pick - but if he's capable of that it also means he's capable of noticing the little things that may irk others. But what it really boils down too is if the 'pro' player is looking to make the gun fun or balanced. Dust has shown us the both don't always meet eye to eye. Example: AR. It's a fun weapon to use because you can meet several situations and come out on top - but it's not very balanced in regards to other weapons, making those other weapons less fun. So do you nerf the weapon of choice - or buff the weapons not enjoying themselves? Of course you can't. Which is why you can really separate the boys from the men as one puts it. Remove forge gun splash? not going to stop a forge sniper. Just there are too many players who profess they're pros and they're really just copy cats and annoy me to no end when you try to mention the mere thought about breaking their favorite toy. You're also right, fun and balanced is hard to see eye to eye. Its possible to get there where they can agree to a degree the game can be fun and balanced. Just potential CPM needs to be able to concede over the simple facts that maybe their view on any subject may not be the best for everyone and must be willing to bend or break their views for the betterment of the game. As some of you may recall I am very much against respecs but lately I been having to bend and conceded on the notion because ultimately it is very harmful to deny the player base this option. However because of my opposing views i am able to throw up a number of flags to be addressed before it can make it in which would make it fair for everyone who utilizes it and keeps some views of the anti-respec preserved
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes.
-"Certainty is a confession of ignorance about our ability to be passionately mistaken."
That's Master nader to you scrub.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
891
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Posted - 2013.11.17 03:28:00 -
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I think i'd like to be a part of it. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1294
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Posted - 2013.11.17 03:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Cosgar wrote:So we're going to try to have a fair election for a figurehead branch of diplomats forced to silenced by a NDA in a game where you can make countless alts since there's no supscription fee? Yeah, this will end well... If they can track IP maybe they can give each playstation a single set of votes per election, so that way you'd have to own multiple playstations across multiple accounts just to vote more than once. Not foolproof of course, but something like that could drastically cut down the number of alt votes you'd see ottherwise. Tracking IP's isn't reliable. Well just some way to identify a given system. I'm not technically inclined so I have no idea how that works, but if there was a way to identify my system as unique and mine, then I would be forced to go out and buy a whole new system and play an alt into an active state just to get another set of votes. Possibly tracking the Mac Address of the PS3 or Modem each of each account.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 04:13:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I haven't seen a thread like this in a while, and I'm just curious. I know elections are still a long ways away, but I'm just wondering who among us actually wants to take up that mantle?
I know that at some point in the future, I would like to run for the council, though right now I would be a bad fit because of RL stuff, so I won't be running in the first election. The last thing I want is to be a drain on the CPM, which is why I'll be waiting.
That said, I know there are a number of you who would make great candidates, and I just wanted to make this thread so we can get a better idea of who's still interested in the position, and why. Remove all the current CPM's apart from Iron Wolf I have still yet to see a single constructive post made by any of the other CPM's who simply abuse their position and don't actually forward any of the player feedback onto CCP IWS is a CCP apologist/cheerleader (although, he did call out CCP on the TTK debacle ). I've seen Kaine Spero, Nova Knife and Laz (that french guy, whatever his name is) make very good, level headed posts. Nova is a bit too radical personally I'd like to see Laurent and Heinrich maybe Kain or IWS...
I've got a life so I'm not running...
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7665
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Posted - 2013.11.17 12:52:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Wow this thread took off. So have you learned anything? Actually, I have. IWS dropped some useful knowledge, and I've seen at least a couple solid candidates so far. Granted the thread has derailed a bit, but I have definitely learned some things.
Story / Vids / OSG
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1684
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:36:00 -
[116] - Quote
More like who wants to be the new puppet for CCP
If the CPM could actually help improve the game then it would be worth it but frankly it does **** all anyways
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7666
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:38:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:More like who wants to be the new puppet for CCP
If the CPM could actually help improve the game then it would be worth it but frankly it does **** all anyways
To be fair, it took EVE CSM what, something like 6 years to become a well established useful group.
CPM hasn't even been here a year, and neither has DUST (officially speaking, anyways). I think there's more than enough room for improvement, and having the CSM as a guideline is a huge boon for this.
Story / Vids / OSG
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
329
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:43:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:I'll be running for the CPM1 as iv previously stated.
I'd support Code as CPM1! :o |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
329
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:More like who wants to be the new puppet for CCP
If the CPM could actually help improve the game then it would be worth it but frankly it does **** all anyways
To be fair, it took EVE CSM what, something like 6 years to become a well established useful group. CPM hasn't even been here a year, and neither has DUST (officially speaking, anyways). I think there's more than enough room for improvement, and having the CSM as a guideline is a huge boon for this.
This is a joke right? who was the mittiani before CSM? lol
Did more then make him powerful in EVE. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
329
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:More like who wants to be the new puppet for CCP
If the CPM could actually help improve the game then it would be worth it but frankly it does **** all anyways
To be fair, it took EVE CSM what, something like 6 years to become a well established useful group. CPM hasn't even been here a year, and neither has DUST (officially speaking, anyways). I think there's more than enough room for improvement, and having the CSM as a guideline is a huge boon for this.
This is a joke right? who was the mittani before CSM? lol
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7667
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:47:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:More like who wants to be the new puppet for CCP
If the CPM could actually help improve the game then it would be worth it but frankly it does **** all anyways
To be fair, it took EVE CSM what, something like 6 years to become a well established useful group. CPM hasn't even been here a year, and neither has DUST (officially speaking, anyways). I think there's more than enough room for improvement, and having the CSM as a guideline is a huge boon for this. This is a joke right? who was the mittiani before CSM? lol Did more then make him powerful in EVE. Not sure what that has to do with CSM being essentially useless for the first few years. That's just what I've heard numerous times at least, I didn't play EVE back then, and I don't play very much now.
Story / Vids / OSG
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
5138
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:02:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Bethhy wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:More like who wants to be the new puppet for CCP
If the CPM could actually help improve the game then it would be worth it but frankly it does **** all anyways
To be fair, it took EVE CSM what, something like 6 years to become a well established useful group. CPM hasn't even been here a year, and neither has DUST (officially speaking, anyways). I think there's more than enough room for improvement, and having the CSM as a guideline is a huge boon for this. This is a joke right? who was the mittiani before CSM? lol Did more then make him powerful in EVE. Not sure what that has to do with CSM being essentially useless for the first few years. That's just what I've heard numerous times at least, I didn't play EVE back then, and I don't play very much now.
CSM5 was the turning point.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
957
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:07:00 -
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I personally think that whoever spent an insane amount of time actually playing the game already "knows" how to fix it, and already gathered enough opinions to make a general view of NPE and vets experience.
Imo, CPM1 should concentrate on:
- End Game
- Something in the middle that keeps people play the game
- New players experience
In really few words:
End game: We already have Planetary Conquest, still we all know it's broken and not accessible to anyone. By anyone I mean any good player, in fact PC still have huge lag / framerate issues. I would also suggest some kind of network security on PC matches and dedicated servers in different regions that guarantee equality.
Somewhere in the middle: Make casuals actually enjoy the game. More tacticism. Dust is actually an SP based game, not a personal skill based game. Many players that used to consider themselves "good at FPS" already left the game because of the SP gap; there would be many solutions, but any of these would hurt the vet's or the newbie's feelings. That's why there should be more tacticism, even in pubs. Make people actually use their head instead of letting them run around like headless, good-aiming chickens: destroyable/repairable objects, for example, bridges, doors, turret bunkers, make turrets repairable and for god's sake, give them i little more HP.
Beginners: They should feel how beautiful the game is! Let them know the "secrets" of the game. Tell 'em in tutorials that they need to skill up to hurt a PRO. Tell'em to pay attention to "Men in Black" , let them have Militia only battle or starter fits only. Let them have PVE so that they can skill up without hurting their K/D or whatever they care about.
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