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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
342
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Posted - 2013.11.10 05:28:00 -
[61] - Quote
It's been said before, but the problem is not using proto gear. I use ADV gear in pubs, only recently unlocked proto but don't plan to use it in pubs for the most part (don't want to be a hypocrite, lol). The problem is partly matchmaking, but, I'm not sure how much that can be fixed with the smaller player base. That's the problem, it hurts the experience:
- I came really close to quitting the game myself several times because I got so crushed early on but the potential of the game did and still keeps me here. A lot of people don't feel that way and leave. Yes, squads are OP too, and I know that your GEK with prof 5 is way better than someone's with prof 0 and no complex dmg mod, but it at least gives someone a sporting chance, unlike the insta-kill from a duvolle at the games render distance. That's just disheartening to a newer player.
- Secondly, it just isn't FUN. Lopsided matches are boring as hell, the only nice thing about being on the winning side is you don't lose a lot of suits. That's the one argument I think everyone should at least consider.
Personally, I think the best way to do it is to make a mode where you can't use anything over a certain meta level, even out the playing field slightly, give noobs a place to hide and everyone else a place to try out new stuff. In the meantime, what's so hard about using ADV suits in pubs and saving protos for FW and PC?
Templar'd for her pleasure
Amarr victor!
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
342
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Posted - 2013.11.10 05:40:00 -
[62] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:If you do not like getting proto stomp you can do many things one leave the battle, two snipe, three stay together in a wolf pack a proto player can't take on 6 players at once. Plus when you go against proto players you make more isk Said someone from Nyain San. Well said :P im not going to stay here and listen to a guy from a corp that no big corps want to attack because they do not want to look bad attacking a training corp
Then leave, just like we do when we see your fcktard nade spamming triple-HAV pubstomp squads on the board. What you sadly don't realize is that what you said totally proves everything people say and think about your corp. You basically just said "we are a bunch of e-peen stroking d-bags who would honestly love to go beat up on a bunch of new players but don't only because it would be bad for our image." You shouldn't want or need to do it because it's childish, stupid, and bad for the game not because it makes you look bad, a$$.
Templar'd for her pleasure
Amarr victor!
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Thorgen Barr
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.11.10 06:05:00 -
[63] - Quote
KingBabar wrote:What am l supposed to do?
- Not play with my friends and corpmates? (Playing Dust solo for 5 hrs will make the game way too boring)
- Not use the finelly tweaked suit l've spent 8 months perfecting?
- Not maximizing my potential on the battlefield, by extension doing all l can to secure a win for my team?
- What do you want me to do?
And for the record, l normally run a "cheap" protosuit setup that costs 107.775 isk and the isk just keeps piling up. As long as my wallet keeps growing, what possible reason is there for me to not use a proto suit in every single battle?
I've even deleted my ONE roughly 50k enhanced suit. My theory is that the guys complaining about it simply can't afford it.
And don't give me the "need a challenge" BS, playing agressively enough to rack up the kills without dying more than max twice on average is challanging enough.....
I'm tired of the constant QQ messages, especially after downing someone many times with an enh weapon with no mods. Besides, playing mostly EU ambush l do meet lots of other proto squads from gac, wtf, various russians and others.
Go play FW
You run in a full protosquad .. in .. Ambush ... seriously ??
Look we all know the system is flawed, if you always went up against those other protosquads and had no new players to improve your stats you;d be whinging and whining about dying more, the simple fact is you run Ambush in a proto suit with other people in protosuits in a squad to go around ganking and killing new players ...
The people complaining and sending you hatemail will always be the guys new to the game who have 1m sp that you are killing over and over and over again .. you have no gun game and need the 600hp and huge damage advantage to kill the guys rolling in militia and you're deluded if you actually think any different
Your a ganker, you don't have the skill to be anything else |
Thorgen Barr
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.11.10 06:13:00 -
[64] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:If you do not like getting proto stomp you can do many things one leave the battle, two snipe, three stay together in a wolf pack a proto player can't take on 6 players at once. Plus when you go against proto players you make more isk
Or do what most people seem to do and just uninstall DUST and play something else
Seriously the only solution to avoiding protostomping is to not play the game ...
DUST 514 alienates 99% of potential new players and 50% of the middle ground players and on a game with a playerbase as small as DUST's they simply cannot afford to do that
I want this game to succeed and if protostomping in pubgames isn't fixed ASAP or a gamemode comes in where you can't protostomp then we can kiss goodbye to DUST 514 on the PS4
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1354
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Posted - 2013.11.10 12:24:00 -
[65] - Quote
Thorgen Barr wrote:KingBabar wrote:What am l supposed to do?
- Not play with my friends and corpmates? (Playing Dust solo for 5 hrs will make the game way too boring)
- Not use the finelly tweaked suit l've spent 8 months perfecting?
- Not maximizing my potential on the battlefield, by extension doing all l can to secure a win for my team?
- What do you want me to do?
And for the record, l normally run a "cheap" protosuit setup that costs 107.775 isk and the isk just keeps piling up. As long as my wallet keeps growing, what possible reason is there for me to not use a proto suit in every single battle?
I've even deleted my ONE roughly 50k enhanced suit. My theory is that the guys complaining about it simply can't afford it.
And don't give me the "need a challenge" BS, playing agressively enough to rack up the kills without dying more than max twice on average is challanging enough.....
I'm tired of the constant QQ messages, especially after downing someone many times with an enh weapon with no mods. Besides, playing mostly EU ambush l do meet lots of other proto squads from gac, wtf, various russians and others. Go play FW You run in a full protosquad .. in .. Ambush ... seriously ?? Look we all know the system is flawed, if you always went up against those other protosquads and had no new players to improve your stats you;d be whinging and whining about dying more, the simple fact is you run Ambush in a proto suit with other people in protosuits in a squad to go around ganking and killing new players ... The people complaining and sending you hatemail will always be the guys new to the game who have 1m sp that you are killing over and over and over again .. you have no gun game and need the 600hp and huge damage advantage to kill the guys rolling in militia and you're deluded if you actually think any different Your a ganker, you don't have the skill to be anything else
First off, the competition is normally a lot harder in Ambush than it is in any other game mode. 9 of 10 skrmish battles I play leads to 3 minutes of fighting and 10 minutes of redlining, which is really boring and a much bigger stomp than anything we do in Ambush. People are deluded and think the best players play the so called "tactical" game modes, my experience is very different. Ambush is a game that only focus on killing and staying alive, its natural that it will draw players that like it and want to be good at it.
And secondly, you have no idea how my gungame is, Iknow very well at what level I play at. Enough to get invites from the top corps the time I played solo, good enough to get hired for PC over and over again. Just because I prefer a game mode with mostly constant action, doesn't mean anything about my abilities. I can't handle running around on a map hacking a bunch of stuff, its really boring. I've played a great deal of FW lately, and its a complete redline after 3 minutes most of the time. The average "tactical game mode" player base simply doesn't have the gungame for it.
Bring back skirmish 1.0 or any sort of capture the flag game mode and I'll probably never play ambush again....
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
727
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:36:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:
Proto is the mask poor players wear.
Holy ****. I just found my favorite quote from the Dust 514 forums. Plus 1, sir.
If you think Plasma Rifles take skill to use and are fine as they are, you are the problem.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:41:00 -
[67] - Quote
KingBabar wrote:What am l supposed to do?
- Not play with my friends and corpmates? (Playing Dust solo for 5 hrs will make the game way too boring)
- Not use the finelly tweaked suit l've spent 8 months perfecting?
- Not maximizing my potential on the battlefield, by extension doing all l can to secure a win for my team?
- What do you want me to do?
And for the record, l normally run a "cheap" protosuit setup that costs 107.775 isk and the isk just keeps piling up. As long as my wallet keeps growing, what possible reason is there for me to not use a proto suit in every single battle?
I've even deleted my ONE roughly 50k enhanced suit. My theory is that the guys complaining about it simply can't afford it.
And don't give me the "need a challenge" BS, playing agressively enough to rack up the kills without dying more than max twice on average is challanging enough.....
I'm tired of the constant QQ messages, especially after downing someone many times with an enh weapon with no mods. Besides, playing mostly EU ambush l do meet lots of other proto squads from gac, wtf, various russians and others.
Your supposed to wear your best and stand still out in the open or wear free fits and let newbs own you.
You are not allowed to do well, you must go 0\20 and give the worst newbs all your isk.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:45:00 -
[68] - Quote
KingBabar wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Me and castor crave played about 6 matches yesterday.
Each one was an absolute pubstomp by the other team.
No remorse was shown for us and the blues.....especially because it was the same 2 corps we kept going against.
All I have to say is this: I hope my RE blows your face so far into your proto suit that not even a respawn will fix it. So in other words: my posse gets stomped by yours and l hope l'm lucky enough get a RE kill, not even contemplating killing you with my main. I bet you even get a kick out of taking out a protosuit, -Haha, that dude lost isk because of me, like any of us care about isk....
Those gimps are the worst, they wonder why they do sht when all they do is play to troll on people who have the isk to die 50k times without making any back what so ever.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7480
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:47:00 -
[69] - Quote
It reminds me of all the ISK I could have saved had I went ground instead of air
Fan Fiction
\ Broke Dropship Pilot /
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:49:00 -
[70] - Quote
KingBabar wrote:Thorgen Barr wrote:KingBabar wrote:What am l supposed to do?
- Not play with my friends and corpmates? (Playing Dust solo for 5 hrs will make the game way too boring)
- Not use the finelly tweaked suit l've spent 8 months perfecting?
- Not maximizing my potential on the battlefield, by extension doing all l can to secure a win for my team?
- What do you want me to do?
And for the record, l normally run a "cheap" protosuit setup that costs 107.775 isk and the isk just keeps piling up. As long as my wallet keeps growing, what possible reason is there for me to not use a proto suit in every single battle?
I've even deleted my ONE roughly 50k enhanced suit. My theory is that the guys complaining about it simply can't afford it.
And don't give me the "need a challenge" BS, playing agressively enough to rack up the kills without dying more than max twice on average is challanging enough.....
I'm tired of the constant QQ messages, especially after downing someone many times with an enh weapon with no mods. Besides, playing mostly EU ambush l do meet lots of other proto squads from gac, wtf, various russians and others. Go play FW You run in a full protosquad .. in .. Ambush ... seriously ?? Look we all know the system is flawed, if you always went up against those other protosquads and had no new players to improve your stats you;d be whinging and whining about dying more, the simple fact is you run Ambush in a proto suit with other people in protosuits in a squad to go around ganking and killing new players ... The people complaining and sending you hatemail will always be the guys new to the game who have 1m sp that you are killing over and over and over again .. you have no gun game and need the 600hp and huge damage advantage to kill the guys rolling in militia and you're deluded if you actually think any different Your a ganker, you don't have the skill to be anything else First off, the competition is normally a lot harder in Ambush than it is in any other game mode. 9 of 10 skrmish battles I play leads to 3 minutes of fighting and 10 minutes of redlining, which is really boring and a much bigger stomp than anything we do in Ambush. People are deluded and think the best players play the so called "tactical" game modes, my experience is very different. Ambush is a game that only focus on killing and staying alive, its natural that it will draw players that like it and want to be good at it. And secondly, you have no idea how my gungame is, Iknow very well at what level I play at. Enough to get invites from the top corps the time I played solo, good enough to get hired for PC over and over again. Just because I prefer a game mode with mostly constant action, doesn't mean anything about my abilities. I can't handle running around on a map hacking a bunch of stuff, its really boring. I've played a great deal of FW lately, and its a complete redline after 3 minutes most of the time. The average "tactical game mode" player base simply doesn't have the gungame for it. Bring back skirmish 1.0 or any sort of capture the flag game mode and I'll probably never play ambush again....
Caldari and amarr is fotm, people don't realise the real battle happens in space, so everyone had flocked to amarr and caldari thinking it makes any significant impact making fw almost instant red line and completely one sided and as such iv quit it until theres an sp requirement to join. Iv had it with dumb blueys joining fw.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1369
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:56:00 -
[71] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:to be honest i dont understand the tear either. My guess is that its simply butthurt people being buthurt.
Give it no mind.
Its just conflict between newbs who think its unfair and vets who have earned the right to use that gear that inadvertently leads to newb bashing, its no ones fault, its the wp on academies fault which is someone's fault.
Let's all burn them at a stake, but first weigh them against a duck on a set of scales 
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Kal Kronos
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
99
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:01:00 -
[72] - Quote
KingBabar wrote:
And l guess you're one of many that would have a 10 KDR if you could only be bothered to use protogear?
Protogear doesn't make you weak, it makes you smarter due to feeling the loss of an expensive suit..
Anyways +1
I aggree about the last part. We've had more and more QQ from "good players" as hitdetection has improved.
Fast reflexes, good aim and situational awareness have never been more important in Dust than right now. They're all qualities important for a good player in every FPS, in a way, the current TTK is a good meassure of player skill, having a hard time these days? I suspect you aren't that good, you're merely used to a now diminnished advantage in terms of dps/ehp.
Does the inside of your ass smell as bad as I assume? Spamming scanners does not equal situational awareness, that aspect of the game crawled up your ass with your head and died. These patches just turned the game into COD, a heavy AA twitch shooter that people think they are good at when connection or teams are in their favor. If you want to boast your skill go play LAN tourneys, nothing else reflects skill but keep telling yourself what you want.
Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, and mass driver.
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DEZKA DIABLO
Unkn0wn Killers
24
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:13:00 -
[73] - Quote
Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just bad players looking for an excuse as to why they're bad, once they get their proto gear and continue to be stomped they'll move on to something else.
If someone works for their proto gear I see no reason to not run it if they wish, they earned it after all.
Same reason I laugh at guys who say no tanks in ambush.
Shyiiit proto scouts are mandatory, I put on a blueprint med frame with a Ar an feel like god, lmao can't imagine proto |
Lorhak Gannarsein
570
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:42:00 -
[74] - Quote
I usually just use protostomps as an excuse to chat with my squaddies - although when it's the other team doing the stomping there's more swearing as they can feel their KD/Rs plummet XD
Too busy clicking cookies to play DUST...
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CharCharOdell
1498
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:03:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Me and castor crave played about 6 matches yesterday.
Each one was an absolute pubstomp by the other team.
No remorse was shown for us and the blues.....especially because it was the same 2 corps we kept going against.
All I have to say is this: I hope my RE blows your face so far into your proto suit that not even a respawn will fix it.
Sounds like Dust University didn't teach you how to deal with proto suits. Don't worry, the LC is busy doing that. ;)
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Meeko Fent
Xer Cloud Consortium
1483
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:04:00 -
[76] - Quote
Kal Kronos wrote:KingBabar wrote:
And l guess you're one of many that would have a 10 KDR if you could only be bothered to use protogear?
Protogear doesn't make you weak, it makes you smarter due to feeling the loss of an expensive suit..
Anyways +1
I aggree about the last part. We've had more and more QQ from "good players" as hitdetection has improved.
Fast reflexes, good aim and situational awareness have never been more important in Dust than right now. They're all qualities important for a good player in every FPS, in a way, the current TTK is a good meassure of player skill, having a hard time these days? I suspect you aren't that good, you're merely used to a now diminnished advantage in terms of dps/ehp.
Does the inside of your ass smell as bad as I assume? Spamming scanners does not equal situational awareness, that aspect of the game crawled up your ass with your head and died. These patches just turned the game into COD, a heavy AA twitch shooter that people think they are good at when connection or teams are in their favor. If you want to boast your skill go play LAN tourneys, nothing else reflects skill but keep telling yourself what you want.
COD?
Heavy AA?
Twitch?
Da faq you talking bout Willis?
This AA is literally the lightest I've seen in a console game next to Turok, which didn't have any at all. Saying DUST is a twitch is a big lie, comparing it to COD you have a full second of constant fire to react to them. Guess how much in COD.
If your a scout, then you always had it bad and you just need severe buffing.
If your a med frame then your being complainitive *****, exaggerating the truth
If your a heavy, then I don't really have a comeback
If your a vehicle user, then why do you care?
For the State!
For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1551
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:11:00 -
[77] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:If you do not like getting proto stomp you can do many things one leave the battle, two snipe, three stay together in a wolf pack a proto player can't take on 6 players at once. Plus when you go against proto players you make more isk Said someone from Nyain San. Well said :P im not going to stay here and listen to a guy from a corp that no big corps want to attack because they do not want to look bad attacking a training corp
Then don't, the door is over their ---->
Of all the corps that pubstomp whenever I bring a squad of newberries out, you guys (and gals) are the worst. I've had newberries quit the game (like uninstall) during a match against you guys. Every time I go out with the newberries, I always here at least 1 say they want to quit because of the pubstomping. Nyain San has probably accounted for a good 50% of new players leaving. I know enough to pull out starter fits or leave a match when you guys show up. If that's not enough than idk what is. You peoples are corp funded proto stompers wich means you have no care in the world if you die because you'll just get another handout of 2 million isk.
What about those of use that actually work for their isk? We value a good suit whereas nyain San just runs out. Gets blown up and just buys 50 more proto suits. Don't even get me started on the nade/MD spam. And the worst part is you guys are cocky about it. I saw a thread a few weaks ago by a nyain San member who was thanking us for wearing starter fits so he could OHK us with his freedom Md.
If your half the players in your corp had a heart, you guys wouldn't be the biggest trolls playing this game.
Now you may leave. Door is right there ---> [ ~]
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1551
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:12:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Me and castor crave played about 6 matches yesterday.
Each one was an absolute pubstomp by the other team.
No remorse was shown for us and the blues.....especially because it was the same 2 corps we kept going against.
All I have to say is this: I hope my RE blows your face so far into your proto suit that not even a respawn will fix it. Sounds like Dust University didn't teach you how to deal with proto suits. Don't worry, the LC is busy doing that. ;)
Deal with proto suits or corp funded proto stompers and Scotty's bs matchmaking?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Unkn0wn Killers
219
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:16:00 -
[79] - Quote
Nothing is wrong with running proto though it's a bit saddening to be matched against guys way above me in skills (not SP but actual skill) as I'm average at best, but that's just a matchmaking issue.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1551
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:23:00 -
[80] - Quote
I nave nothing against people who use proto suits.
I use proto suits.
The thing is people don't use them in moderation. If you guys redlined another team, would you still wear proto and wait at the redline? Or would you become merciful and use adv suits?
I would do the latter because I know what it's like to be redlined. We all know what it's like. If you have ever played organized sports (and I seriously hope you have) you'll know what this is like. I know in hockey if my team is winning by 5+ goals! we start to play "safely" and by that I mean this, we just shoot the pick down the ice and chase it, we don't shoot on net, we pass it around. We cycle the puck until the end of the game. Or we switch up the positions. We let the defence play foreward sand the foreward splay defence.
This is what should happen during a redline proto stomp. Players should ease of a little, perhaps let the reds get out of the redline for a bit. I'm not asking for you to let them capture the objective or anything, but at least be good about the pibstomp. Don't run into their redline looking for kills. Don't park a tank right outside the redline. Just back up a bit. Don't troll them the whole time.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Proficiency V.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:25:00 -
[81] - Quote
we are not corp funded |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1551
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:26:00 -
[82] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:we are not corp funded
I call bs cause there was a thread a few weeks ago that said otherwise (by one of your members no less)
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
966
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:28:00 -
[83] - Quote
Until PC is worthwhile, FW is competitive and fought for a reason, and single corp contracts return I see no issue with people running PROTO in pub matches, they have earned the isk and SP, so why the hell not.
Only time I dislike Proto users is when I'm on the wrong end of it in my STD scout set up.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Proficiency V.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:29:00 -
[84] - Quote
Fire of Prometheus wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:we are not corp funded I call bs cause there was a thread a few weeks ago that said otherwise (by one of your members no less)
what he meant was some of us help them out in PC before we joined so when we join they gave us money for helping them out in previous pc and pc after that. A lot of corps give money to players after PC matches
BTW most of us don't use the MD most use the AR |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
297
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:32:00 -
[85] - Quote
GIZMO2606 wrote:Because other players that don't have proto weapons find it unfair or becuase they lack gun game so they need to find a reason why someone with better gun game is killing them.
There isn't much gungame left in DUST 514...
See enemy... move crosshair to general area.. AA takes over.. move joystick up slightly... headshot. hold fire button .. i win!
Whoever can do that first wins. the idea of long gun battles are gone... |
snakevenom369
Fenrir's Wolves
Zero-Day
3
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:32:00 -
[86] - Quote
KingBabar wrote:What am l supposed to do?
- Not play with my friends and corpmates? (Playing Dust solo for 5 hrs will make the game way too boring)
- Not use the finelly tweaked suit l've spent 8 months perfecting?
- Not maximizing my potential on the battlefield, by extension doing all l can to secure a win for my team?
- What do you want me to do?
And for the record, l normally run a "cheap" protosuit setup that costs 107.775 isk and the isk just keeps piling up. As long as my wallet keeps growing, what possible reason is there for me to not use a proto suit in every single battle?
I've even deleted my ONE roughly 50k enhanced suit. My theory is that the guys complaining about it simply can't afford it.
And don't give me the "need a challenge" BS, playing agressively enough to rack up the kills without dying more than max twice on average is challanging enough.....
I'm tired of the constant QQ messages, especially after downing someone many times with an enh weapon with no mods. Besides, playing mostly EU ambush l do meet lots of other proto squads from gac, wtf, various russians and others.
while i can see peoples complaints running proto is what makes a challenge for me when i see proto all the time in matches barely anyone runs more than one damage mod for their suits as the sacrifice isnt worth it hell i dont run any on my suit.
so no there is no problem with proto in matches if you earned it and tweaked your suits for months then you have every right to run them |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1551
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:32:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:we are not corp funded I call bs cause there was a thread a few weeks ago that said otherwise (by one of your members no less) what he meant was some of us help them out in PC before we joined so when we join they gave us money for helping them out in previous pc and pc after that. A lot of corps give money to players after PC matches BTW most of us don't use the MD most use the AR
I get the ar thing, it was this one player who made a thread about blowing blues to bits with this MD.
And when a player says "I get reimbursed for my losses during battle" it makes me think they are corp funded.
If I find the thread I'll link it.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Proficiency V.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:34:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:we are not corp funded I call bs cause there was a thread a few weeks ago that said otherwise (by one of your members no less) what he meant was some of us help them out in PC before we joined so when we join they gave us money for helping them out in previous pc and pc after that. A lot of corps give money to players after PC matches BTW most of us don't use the MD most use the AR I get the ar thing, it was this one player who made a thread about blowing blues to bits with this MD. And when a player says "I get reimbursed for my losses during battle" it makes me think they are corp funded. If I find the thread I'll link it.
he misspoke he meant to say for PC battles |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1551
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:38:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:we are not corp funded I call bs cause there was a thread a few weeks ago that said otherwise (by one of your members no less) what he meant was some of us help them out in PC before we joined so when we join they gave us money for helping them out in previous pc and pc after that. A lot of corps give money to players after PC matches BTW most of us don't use the MD most use the AR I get the ar thing, it was this one player who made a thread about blowing blues to bits with this MD. And when a player says "I get reimbursed for my losses during battle" it makes me think they are corp funded. If I find the thread I'll link it. he misspoke he meant to say for PC battles
Ummmm still finding it hard to believe. Their was absolutely no mention about PC. He just kept going on about it. And even if you guys do get reimbursed for PC. Who makes sure you guys are truthful about reimbursement? I think that a lot of you would add an extra 1-2mil to that reimbursement bill.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Proficiency V.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:40:00 -
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why we would lie? |
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