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Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1517	Posted - 2013.11.09 20:44:00 - [1] - Quote Me and castor crave played about 6 matches yesterday. Each one was an absolute pubstomp by the other team. No remorse was shown for us and the blues.....especially because it was the same 2 corps we kept going against. All I have to say is this: I hope my RE blows your face so far into your proto suit that not even a respawn will fix it. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1521	Posted - 2013.11.09 20:50:00 - [2] - Quote GIZMO2606 wrote: Because other players that don't have proto weapons find it unfair or becuase they lack gun game so they need to find a reason why someone with better gun game is killing them. Says the one who stacks complex damage mods on an AR and pub stomps for fun "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1521	Posted - 2013.11.09 20:51:00 - [3] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Me and castor crave played about 6 matches yesterday. Each one was an absolute pubstomp by the other team. No remorse was shown for us and the blues.....especially because it was the same 2 corps we kept going against. All I have to say is this: I hope my RE blows your face so far into your proto suit that not even a respawn will fix it. my 300 ehp scout gets half-hitted by a duvolle bullet coming from across the map, that's also another problem I don't bring out any suit over 10k isk if I see an organized squad on the other team.....that leaves me with starter fits, or MLT scout with REs "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1521	Posted - 2013.11.09 20:58:00 - [4] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Me and castor crave played about 6 matches yesterday. Each one was an absolute pubstomp by the other team. No remorse was shown for us and the blues.....especially because it was the same 2 corps we kept going against. All I have to say is this: I hope my RE blows your face so far into your proto suit that not even a respawn will fix it. So in other words: my posse gets stomped by yours and l hope l'm lucky enough get a RE kill, not even contemplating killing you with my main. I bet you even get a kick out of taking out a protosuit, -Haha, that dude lost isk because of me, like any of us care about isk.... I do get a kick out of it because big bad proto bear can't handle little MLT scout with a shotty........I can't count the number of prot bears who have fallen to my MLT scout "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1522	Posted - 2013.11.09 20:59:00 - [5] - Quote GIZMO2606 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: GIZMO2606 wrote: Because other players that don't have proto weapons find it unfair or becuase they lack gun game so they need to find a reason why someone with better gun game is killing them. Says the one who stacks complex damage mods on an AR and pub stomps for fun And your point is? You need damage mods to get a kill. Whatever happened to tactics and good gun game, I do fine without Dmg mods and personally, I see no difference with or without them. Aim for the face and you don't need them. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1522	Posted - 2013.11.09 21:02:00 - [6] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Nothing wrong with proto suits/gear but there is an issue with matchmaking. ^ THIS!!!! NOTHING IS WORSE THAN BEING THROWN A BLUEBERRY TEAM AND BEING PUT AGAINST 2 CORP SQUADS THAT ARE CORP FUNDED PROTO STOMPERS!!!!!! /rant "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1522	Posted - 2013.11.09 21:06:00 - [7] - Quote GIZMO2606 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: GIZMO2606 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: GIZMO2606 wrote: Because other players that don't have proto weapons find it unfair or becuase they lack gun game so they need to find a reason why someone with better gun game is killing them. Says the one who stacks complex damage mods on an AR and pub stomps for fun And your point is? You need damage mods to get a kill. Whatever happened to tactics and good gun game, I do fine without Dmg mods and personally, I see no difference with or without them. Aim for the face and you don't need them. Hmmmm Kinda funny considering that I use Shield Extenders on my suit over damage mods. Hmmmm I find that hard to believe since 99% of AE are callogis "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1525	Posted - 2013.11.09 21:35:00 - [8] - Quote GIZMO2606 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Hmmmm I find that hard to believe since 99% of AE are callogis Lol so 99% of us you say? Gallente Logi and Amarr Heavy, both Proto. Not one skill point into CalLogi and I don't intend to. Even more so not all of us run CalLogi's. Should get your facts right. Gallente logi is the perfect suit for Dmg mod stacking so I find it hard to believe your putting more than 1 shield extender. Amarr heavy.....I believe that one cause heavies are gimped pretty bad. All the AE players I've been against have been rocking callogis and cal assaults so you should get your facts before you start making conclusions. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1527	Posted - 2013.11.09 22:55:00 - [9] - Quote GIZMO2606 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: GIZMO2606 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Hmmmm I find that hard to believe since 99% of AE are callogis Lol so 99% of us you say? Gallente Logi and Amarr Heavy, both Proto. Not one skill point into CalLogi and I don't intend to. Even more so not all of us run CalLogi's. Should get your facts right. Gallente logi is the perfect suit for Dmg mod stacking so I find it hard to believe your putting more than 1 shield extender. Amarr heavy.....I believe that one cause heavies are gimped pretty bad. All the AE players I've been against have been rocking callogis and cal assaults so you should get your facts before you start making conclusions. Believe what you will but I have no taste for using damage mods. Yeah some of AE uses CalLgoi's, that holds true but still doesn't add up to the 99% of us using it. So in remark to the "Get your facts before you start making conclusions" statement, you might want to do that first yourself. How about we both agree to disagree? I like that option better cause this argument is going nowhere "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1527	Posted - 2013.11.09 23:13:00 - [10] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Me and castor crave played about 6 matches yesterday. Each one was an absolute pubstomp by the other team. No remorse was shown for us and the blues.....especially because it was the same 2 corps we kept going against. All I have to say is this: I hope my RE blows your face so far into your proto suit that not even a respawn will fix it. You got stomped by us too :D Sorry lol Haha that was funny though cause I was actually in a somewhat full squad "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1530	Posted - 2013.11.10 00:00:00 - [11] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: If you do not like getting proto stomp you can do many things one leave the battle, two snipe, three stay together in a wolf pack a proto player can't take on 6 players at once. Plus when you go against proto players you make more isk Said someone from Nyain San. Well said :P "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:11:00 - [12] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: If you do not like getting proto stomp you can do many things one leave the battle, two snipe, three stay together in a wolf pack a proto player can't take on 6 players at once. Plus when you go against proto players you make more isk Said someone from Nyain San. Well said :P im not going to stay here and listen to a guy from a corp that no big corps want to attack because they do not want to look bad attacking a training corp Then don't, the door is over their ----> Of all the corps that pubstomp whenever I bring a squad of newberries out, you guys (and gals) are the worst. I've had newberries quit the game (like uninstall) during a match against you guys. Every time I go out with the newberries, I always here at least 1 say they want to quit because of the pubstomping. Nyain San has probably accounted for a good 50% of new players leaving. I know enough to pull out starter fits or leave a match when you guys show up. If that's not enough than idk what is. You peoples are corp funded proto stompers wich means you have no care in the world if you die because you'll just get another handout of 2 million isk. What about those of use that actually work for their isk? We value a good suit whereas nyain San just runs out. Gets blown up and just buys 50 more proto suits. Don't even get me started on the nade/MD spam. And the worst part is you guys are cocky about it. I saw a thread a few weaks ago by a nyain San member who was thanking us for wearing starter fits so he could OHK us with his freedom Md. If your half the players in your corp had a heart, you guys wouldn't be the biggest trolls playing this game. Now you may leave. Door is right there ---> [ ~] "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:12:00 - [13] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Me and castor crave played about 6 matches yesterday. Each one was an absolute pubstomp by the other team. No remorse was shown for us and the blues.....especially because it was the same 2 corps we kept going against. All I have to say is this: I hope my RE blows your face so far into your proto suit that not even a respawn will fix it. Sounds like Dust University didn't teach you how to deal with proto suits. Don't worry, the LC is busy doing that. ;) Deal with proto suits or corp funded proto stompers and Scotty's bs matchmaking? "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:23:00 - [14] - Quote I nave nothing against people who use proto suits. I use proto suits. The thing is people don't use them in moderation. If you guys redlined another team, would you still wear proto and wait at the redline? Or would you become merciful and use adv suits? I would do the latter because I know what it's like to be redlined. We all know what it's like. If you have ever played organized sports (and I seriously hope you have) you'll know what this is like. I know in hockey if my team is winning by 5+ goals! we start to play "safely" and by that I mean this, we just shoot the pick down the ice and chase it, we don't shoot on net, we pass it around. We cycle the puck until the end of the game. Or we switch up the positions. We let the defence play foreward sand the foreward splay defence. This is what should happen during a redline proto stomp. Players should ease of a little, perhaps let the reds get out of the redline for a bit. I'm not asking for you to let them capture the objective or anything, but at least be good about the pibstomp. Don't run into their redline looking for kills. Don't park a tank right outside the redline. Just back up a bit. Don't troll them the whole time. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:26:00 - [15] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: we are not corp funded I call bs cause there was a thread a few weeks ago that said otherwise (by one of your members no less) "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:32:00 - [16] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: we are not corp funded I call bs cause there was a thread a few weeks ago that said otherwise (by one of your members no less) what he meant was some of us help them out in PC before we joined so when we join they gave us money for helping them out in previous pc and pc after that. A lot of corps give money to players after PC matches BTW most of us don't use the MD most use the AR I get the ar thing, it was this one player who made a thread about blowing blues to bits with this MD. And when a player says "I get reimbursed for my losses during battle" it makes me think they are corp funded. If I find the thread I'll link it. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:38:00 - [17] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: we are not corp funded I call bs cause there was a thread a few weeks ago that said otherwise (by one of your members no less) what he meant was some of us help them out in PC before we joined so when we join they gave us money for helping them out in previous pc and pc after that. A lot of corps give money to players after PC matches BTW most of us don't use the MD most use the AR I get the ar thing, it was this one player who made a thread about blowing blues to bits with this MD. And when a player says "I get reimbursed for my losses during battle" it makes me think they are corp funded. If I find the thread I'll link it. he misspoke he meant to say for PC battles Ummmm still finding it hard to believe. Their was absolutely no mention about PC. He just kept going on about it. And even if you guys do get reimbursed for PC. Who makes sure you guys are truthful about reimbursement? I think that a lot of you would add an extra 1-2mil to that reimbursement bill. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:41:00 - [18] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: why we would lie? seriously? "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:44:00 - [19] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: yeah I'm not even going to reply. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:47:00 - [20] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: yeah I'm not even going to reply. you just did and I'm shock your corp doesn't give you iso being that you have your own planet that you guys just farm isk on Haha no really? We use the isk to set up training matches. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1552	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:53:00 - [21] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: yeah I'm not even going to reply. you just did and I'm shock your corp doesn't give you iso being that you have your own planet that you guys just farm isk on Haha no really? We use the isk to set up training matches. Is that where DUST uni decides to mass forum propaganda AA being good for DUST, and the Forge gun is working as intended? there are several other propaganda campaign's ran by DUST uni that has hurt this game. Well I'm not part of those. I'm not a director or something so I'm Free to speak my opinion. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1552	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:58:00 - [22] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: yeah I'm not even going to reply. you just did and I'm shock your corp doesn't give you iso being that you have your own planet that you guys just farm isk on Haha no really? We use the isk to set up training matches. thats the biggest joke about you guys yeah you do set up training matches but most people know that you guys just farm isk on your planet plus corp tax of 7% if it were up to me i would move you guys to PFC and give you 2 district and let corps have at your planet I will tell you this. The isk is being saved until we can properly reimburse students (and staff) for the cost of skill books. Teachers get paid for lectures (I think it was 200k/lecture). And teachers also get reimbursed for losses during a 102 class. (However the loss must be attested by a squadmate and it cannot be a loss do to poor piloting (for ships). The loss must be caused by a third party interference (ie on oceana if some corp decides to screw up a 102 class on dropships) "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1555	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:20:00 - [23] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: so you are corp funded plus eve university makes so much money having dust university having its own planet being able to mine it If I was corp funded, why do I have 4 mil isk? Why do i have to grind 8 matches to pay for 1 incubus? Eve university is a separate entity from dust university. In PC, we don't get help from eve Uni. We use our own players eve toons. Eve university and dust university are neutral corps and as such they will not assist each other unless needed. Eve Uni won't interfere with us and we won't interfere with them. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1555	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:28:00 - [24] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: so you are corp funded plus eve university makes so much money having dust university having its own planet being able to mine it If I was corp funded, why do I have 4 mil isk? Why do i have to grind 8 matches to pay for 1 incubus? Eve university is a separate entity from dust university. In PC, we don't get help from eve Uni. We use our own players eve toons. Eve university and dust university are neutral corps and as such they will not assist each other unless needed. Eve Uni won't interfere with us and we won't interfere with them. but you guys are in the same alliance what allows them to mine your planet They mine our planet? According to who do you base this information off of? I don't play eve so I have no idea how mining works. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1556	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:36:00 - [25] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: so you are corp funded plus eve university makes so much money having dust university having its own planet being able to mine it If I was corp funded, why do I have 4 mil isk? Why do i have to grind 8 matches to pay for 1 incubus? Eve university is a separate entity from dust university. In PC, we don't get help from eve Uni. We use our own players eve toons. Eve university and dust university are neutral corps and as such they will not assist each other unless needed. Eve Uni won't interfere with us and we won't interfere with them. but you guys are in the same alliance what allows them to mine your planet They mine our planet? According to who do you base this information off of? I don't play eve so I have no idea how mining works. its the main reason why eve corps want to dust allies, so when a dust corp gets its own planet the eve corps in the alliance can mine that planet So this is just your speculation? I can aska round if you really want an answer but as far as I'm concerned, eve Uni and duni are completely separate except for alliance and purpose "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1556	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:38:00 - [26] - Quote And we have officially derailed the thread "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1556	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:44:00 - [27] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: And we have officially derailed the thread i don't care if your eve corp mines your planet our corp makes hundreds of millions of isk a day, i just don't think a training corp deserves a whole planet to itself, i would personally give you two district on PFC and let corps that aren't pc training have you district on your planet Idk how we scored a planet but hey, we got one so end of story "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1556	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:45:00 - [28] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: And we have officially derailed the thread Lol, u guys did that like 2 pages ago! sorry "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1556	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:48:00 - [29] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: And we have officially derailed the thread i don't care if your eve corp mines your planet our corp makes hundreds of millions of isk a day, i just don't think a training corp deserves a whole planet to itself, i would personally give you two district on PFC and let corps that aren't pc training have you district on your planet Idk how we scored a planet but hey, we got one so end of story that may change soon red star is attacking everyone Well like you said, would they want to be labelled as a corp that attacks a learning corp? Just sayin "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1556	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:59:00 - [30] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Real tryhards play only in starter fits ^ he knows what's up "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1558	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:46:00 - [31] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: Personally, I'd be a bit happier if DUST and EVE UNIs trained their students in Combined Arms relations and communication, so that players of both sides get valuable experience in communicating with the each game, as well as 101 courses of the other Game so EVE Uni grads have a moderate understanding of Dust, and vice versa. That and some OB coordination training would go along way to helping both games grow closer. After all, if the "new generation" of both Dust and EVE players are comfortable, used to, and familiar with the other game it will only further push along the concept of the games being further unified. We do many lectures about virtually any topic (we just don't make them public due to trolls etc). As for combined arms? Could you please elaborate on what you mean. Communication, a large part of our members don't have a mic so it is a little difficult but we have come up with a sort of "sign language" for players that can't talk. I can't speak for the others but when I'm running a squad and we gat an OB, I'll ask if anyone wants to be the one to drop it and if so I make them SL and walk them through how to do it. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1561	Posted - 2013.11.11 13:06:00 - [32] - Quote I'm already at the proto level, I got 2 proto suits stacked to the gills with modules and equipment, and I got 3 proto weapons to go with them. I choose NOT to use the, because what's the point in running a fitting that will cost an arm and a leg when you are thrown a blueberry team and have 2 corp squads on the other team. If Scotty got his act together this might have never happened. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

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