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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:22:00 -
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Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part.
CCP Eterne wrote:Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. Link
For information, there's two parts to active SP:
1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled.
2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from.
When does CCP learn from their mistakes?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
625
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:23:00 -
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You gotta be kidding me.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:27:00 -
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This will be the great grindfest of our generation. Save us CCP, bring us triple in-battle passive SP, PLEASE! |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:28:00 -
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I would love a week of AFK triple SP farmers who sit in the MCC getting triple SP for nothing. Great idea! Make it happen CCP!
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:28:00 -
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I knew CCP would screw us over on this one, particularly when they failed to clarify after several requests on the initial thread. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:29:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote:Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. LinkFor information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from.When does CCP learn from their mistakes?
The bolded part is known as Passive SP gained in battle. LOL... The community has been demanding that those SP not be awarded, as it causes people to AFK. Where have you been??
CCP has actually done this one right for a change. Get with the program. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:32:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote:Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. LinkFor information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from.When does CCP learn from their mistakes? The bolded part is known as Passive SP gained in battle. LOL... The community has been demanding that those SP not be awarded, as it causes people to AFK. Where have you been?? CCP has actually done this one right for a change. Get with the program. You seriously want to play 30+ hours just to cap out? The active bonus should be 15x if there's no bonus passive sp
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
675
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:32:00 -
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WP for SP will only be relevant when you get more SP for doing something than not doing something like it is now.
You benefit from not playing Dust 514.
The only reason people are against meta-based matchmaking is, well, they're too bad to fight anything but mlt. Scrubs.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:34:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:The bolded part is known as Passive SP gained in battle. LOL... The community has been demanding that those SP not be awarded, as it causes people to AFK. Where have you been?? CCP has actually done this one right for a change. Get with the program. You're wrong on all accounts.
They have a "working" anti-AFK system in place (well they really don't, so you're right about that).
Instead of triple the passive part they could just increase the active part even more so that it would actually BE a triple SP event.
What I mean is: 1 second in battle = 5 SP - x1 mulitplier (normal rate). 1 WP = 1 SP - x6 multiplier.
That would be closer to a triple SP event. The current one isn't even a double SP event.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:35:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote:Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. LinkFor information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from.When does CCP learn from their mistakes? The bolded part is known as Passive SP gained in battle. LOL... The community has been demanding that those SP not be awarded, as it causes people to AFK. Where have you been?? CCP has actually done this one right for a change. Get with the program.
Really? I'd rather have a couple of players AFK than have to grind for 30 hours. I have school and a job.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
368
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:39:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:The bolded part is known as Passive SP gained in battle. LOL... The community has been demanding that those SP not be awarded, as it causes people to AFK. Where have you been?? CCP has actually done this one right for a change. Get with the program.
Okay, so the legitimate players who don't AFK have to play around 2x as much as normal (or more, depending on how many WP they earn) to hit the cap this week, just so the people who AFK are "punished" by having to AFK for 3x as long?
Do you really think AFKers are just sitting at their PS3 watching the killfeed or something? This just means they have to deal with the minor inconvenience of queueing themselves into battles and rubberbanding in the MCC for two days more while doing whatever else they do when they AFK. MAYBE they won't be able to AFK a second or third alt due to the time constraint, but only the most dedicated players would grind out a second or third alt actively under the current tripling system, because we're talking 18ish hours of game time here, per character, and only if you manage to earn 2k-3k WP with each character every game. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:41:00 -
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I'm so sorry to hear they are tripling the gain from actively engaging in battle. It is a truly horrific situation and we should rise up against our masters. Next you'll be telling me they've removed the couch from my quarters and we'll all have to stand up while receiving our passive SP.
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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1807
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:42:00 -
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:43:00 -
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The logic been thrown around in this thread hurts.
U can now play for longer on ur main without hitting the cap yay.
Those that are bitching about that why are u still here, and if playing to hit the cap u missed the point of dust
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
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Sum1ne Else
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:46:00 -
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So...Im at work, bored, reading the forums. Looking at the new update, everything seems positive. *thinks to myself* 'wow, ccp could be doing something right, good patch, triple sp this week, activate one of my omega boosters that I paid real world money for, and....WAIT-WHAT!?'
C'mon CCP- this is not good. I have sent multiple messages to players in other games to come online for the November events because they seemed great! *slow clap*
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:46:00 -
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I wish they would get rid of all active SP. The game shouldn't be about grinding it should be about being a mercenary and making a name for yourself. The grind mentality takes away from the game and adds nothing. If you want SP then you should have to wait for it and if you want WP and ISK you should have to play. Greed is bad and all this grinding is nothing more than greed. Grinding is bad and should be frowned upon.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1500
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:46:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The bolded part is known as Passive SP gained in battle. LOL... The community has been demanding that those SP not be awarded, as it causes people to AFK. Where have you been?? CCP has actually done this one right for a change. Get with the program. You're wrong on all accounts. They have a "working" anti-AFK system in place (well they really don't, so you're right about that). Instead of triple the passive part they could just increase the active part even more so that it would actually BE a triple SP event. What I mean is: 1 second in battle = 5 SP - x1 mulitplier (normal rate). 1 WP = 1 SP - x6 multiplier. That would be closer to a triple SP event. The current one isn't even a double SP event. You do make a good point in this post. |
Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:50:00 -
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The reason they do this is simple. They want you to have to play more during this event.
They use these events for a couple reasons - The more you play, the better the chance to find potential bugs - Its incentive for people to log on and try out the new build. Players who might play here and there might like the new changes and play more often - It boosts there activity numbers
I dont like it because I cant play often enough to cap out during these events but I understand why they are doing it.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:55:00 -
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I'm not against a 30+ hour grind because I'm an AFK farmer, I'm against a 30+ hour grind because I have a life.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
1699
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:55:00 -
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Also my monthly call for passive only SP
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:55:00 -
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That means after you cap, you can still earn 3000-4500 sp per match. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:57:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:That means after you cap, you can still earn 3000-4500 sp per match. Pretty sure the cap is still 1k. At least that's what it usually is in SP events. You just hit those 1k easier/faster.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:58:00 -
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well if you are like me and earn on average 1000-2000 war points this be an additional 3k to 6k sp per match.
i'm not going to complain. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:58:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:That means after you cap, you can still earn 3000-4500 sp per match. Pretty sure the cap is still 1k. At least that's what it usually is in SP events. You just hit those 1k easier/faster.
Yep, after cap you'll still max out at either 1000 SP (no booster), 1500 SP (active booster), or 2000 SP (active omega). You'll only need less WP (334 minimum) to reach these numbers. |
RAMB0
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:58:00 -
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No need to play extra. It is a true 3X event. SP from battle will triple. Lear to read people!
" From November 6 to 13, players will earn active Skill Points from battles at three times the normal rate. During the week, your weekly Skill Point cap will be tripled as well. Passive Skill Point gain will remain normal. " |
Justice Prevails
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:59:00 -
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The sound you hear is the air rushing out of my popped balloon, followed by a heavy sigh. The event thread was pretty funny though. 7 pages of love, then one post clariying the 3xp, and it all went to ****.
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:01:00 -
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RAMB0 wrote:No need to play extra. It is a true 3X event. SP from battle will triple. Lear to read people!
" From November 6 to 13, players will earn active Skill Points from battles at three times the normal rate. During the week, your weekly Skill Point cap will be tripled as well. Passive Skill Point gain will remain normal. " Check your facts and come back. I even provided them in the OP for you.
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Sum1ne Else
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:03:00 -
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RAMB0 wrote:No need to play extra. It is a true 3X event. SP from battle will triple. Lear to read people!
" From November 6 to 13, players will earn active Skill Points from battles at three times the normal rate. During the week, your weekly Skill Point cap will be tripled as well. Passive Skill Point gain will remain normal. "
SP cap; clarify.
Does this mean the 192,000 will be tripled or does this mean once you have capped the SP cap will be tripled? Sometimes CCP say something and it means another- they have been kryptic before.
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Justice Prevails
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:04:00 -
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RAMB0 wrote:No need to play extra. It is a true 3X event. SP from battle will triple. Lear to read people!
" From November 6 to 13, players will earn active Skill Points from battles at three times the normal rate. During the week, your weekly Skill Point cap will be tripled as well. Passive Skill Point gain will remain normal. "
Sorry but your wrong. I thought the same thing as you. But it is in the OP and on pg 7 of the event thread. It took them 7 pages to clarify it.
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:04:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote:Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. LinkFor information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from. When does CCP learn from their mistakes?
its a BONUS .....wtf are you complaining for
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