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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:59:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't believe the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about if you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time? Or I could just AFK |
Justice Prevails
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:07:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't believe the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about if you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time?
Yeah, that would be great. But I think you should put that in the suggestion thread.
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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RAMB0
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:07:00 -
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New name for event should be "Triple AFK Event" |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:10:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't believe the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about if you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time? Or I could just AFK You could just AFK no matter what CCP does. So this event changes nothing that isn't already done. How 'bout you play the game, or don't? AFKing gets you nothing. You aren't gathering SP to sell your character, so I'd imagine you're gathering SP to play later. Why not just play now? |
Castor Crave
DUST University Ivy League
50
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:11:00 -
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This encourages people to afk even more =/ |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
372
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:21:00 -
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CCP should have been up front about this in the beginning, rather than ignoring the questions for clarification in the events thread then suddenly confirming our suspicions the day before the event is going to start. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
954
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:39:00 -
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Skihids wrote:All this angst comes from the fact that our brains are wired to react more strongly to loss than gain. CCP introduced loss two ways, first by implying 3x Passive Active points and letting that impression last for days before killing it, second by the specter of failing to collect all of the prize. The potential failure to collect the whole prize is intensified if you are running boosters, and it's the greatest if you are running the most expensive booster. It doesn't matter if all of this prize is free, it only matters to our risk averse brains that we might lose out on a portion of it. The fact that we measure ourselves against each other and are rather competitive boosts the feeling of loss. You don't want to admit that you failed to cap out when your competitors did. Yes the prize is free, but it is presented in such a way as to frame it as a potential loss. So it is not surprising that people the complaining. It's not childishness, it's simply human nature and CCP could have mitigated part of it.
Kuddo Skihids, are you into psychology or something because your post makes a lot of sense. CCP sounds like you need someone on the team with a psychology course or two, you know we are all crazy
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
546
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:46:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't believe the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about if you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time? Or I could just AFK You could just AFK no matter what CCP does. So this event changes nothing that isn't already done. How 'bout you play the game, or don't? AFKing gets you nothing. You aren't gathering SP to sell your character, so I'd imagine you're gathering SP to play later. Why not just play now? Because I'm not going to play 30 hour a week. I play to hit the normal cap but this is rediculus. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2624
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:50:00 -
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CCP has done SP events it this way then they did it that way and then some other ways as well, always, somebody is pissing their pants.
When it comes to this bitches will cry about it either way so I really don't care.
The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:56:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't believe the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about if you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time? Or I could just AFK You could just AFK no matter what CCP does. So this event changes nothing that isn't already done. How 'bout you play the game, or don't? AFKing gets you nothing. You aren't gathering SP to sell your character, so I'd imagine you're gathering SP to play later. Why not just play now? Because I'm not going to play 30 hour a week. I play to hit the normal cap but this is rediculus. I'm not going to play 30 hours either. Not only do I not hit the normal cap, but there is no way I'll even come close to hitting this cap. I buy a booster to get that little bit extra that I wouldn't get otherwise. Is it a waste of money? Uh, yeah, it's a video game. It's all a waste, lol.
I'm going to use this event to get 300 SP instead of the 100 I normally earn from my WP. |
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
963
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:58:00 -
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AFK PARTY ALL WEEK LONG ON THE OCEANIA SERVERS! |
Wombat in combat
TeamPlayers EoN.
136
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:59:00 -
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Jesus kitten christ, so you're saying we'll have to play 3 times as much this weeks in order to cap out? |
Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:02:00 -
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Green Living wrote:AFK PARTY ALL WEEK LONG ON THE OCEANIA SERVERS!
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Top Men.
171
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:03:00 -
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Who's bringing the beanitos and salsa? |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1170
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:05:00 -
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Wombat in combat wrote:Jesus kitten christ, so you're saying we'll have to play 3 times as much this weeks in order to cap out?
no i'd say it depends on the game mode
if you are a fan of skirms odds are you'll be playing a little over double to cap.
ambushes will easily be 2.5
doms would be close to 1.6
doms are much more active, points gained happen faster, and the game end quicker. They will likely be the best payout for this event.
on the other hand skirms take the longest and tend to pay out the fewest wp.
ambushes end very quickly but you don't gain many WP in that amount of time usually. |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
296
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:10:00 -
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sigh.............
Makes me have a sad.
This does nothing to prevent AFK farmers. They still get the 3x cap. The only thing it does it make them farm for 60hrs instead of 10. You think this will get rid of AFK farmers....no this will actually do the opposite.
Also, everyone tends to go into ambush matches because its faster and you will cap out much faster this way. Skirmish will be dead. Long grind will be long....at least 30hrs that week.
This also compounds the issue of high sp players vs low ones. Those who rarely hit cap, can't because of RL commitments. This will only widen the gap further since they are likely to barley utilize the higher ceiling.
PHI Recruitment
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HAICD
Dogs of War Gaming DARKSTAR ARMY
57
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:13:00 -
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Crying about extra SP is like crying over a guy that offers you $20 and give you two 10 and not a 20 dollar bill
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bear90211
Nyain San Proficiency V.
40
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:14:00 -
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why complaining? only the AFKers are, if they have time to undo that rubber band on their controller and deploy into battle, then they have NO skill what so ever. I cap in a day, ill put on my omega and cap in 2 days and get 2 mill SP within 4 days, AFKers are friggin noobs that should not get ISK or SP, as in if you DONT EVEN GET ANY WP, THEN YOU GET NO ISK OR SP!!, so just GTFO of here you AFKers, or just play the friggin game instead of being a lazy tard that costs the team the game, you make this game no fun when theres 6 of you all AFK in the MCC costing us a victory.
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
548
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:20:00 -
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HAICD wrote:Crying about extra SP is like crying over a guy that offers you $20 and give you two 10 and not a 20 dollar bill No, it's like a guy who said he would buy you a house a gives you a 5m x 5m shack in a swamp |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
548
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:21:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Green Living wrote:AFK PARTY ALL WEEK LONG ON THE OCEANIA SERVERS!
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1120
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:23:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote:Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. LinkFor information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from. When does CCP learn from their mistakes? Sorry that I was wrong. I thought they understood the rage that came from the last triple. My stand point comes from the fact that I buy a booster, if I don't cap out I get the feeling of losing money if I'm not getting all that sp. Thats a bad feeling. The July event was great, it was a true triple event, everything tripled, it didn't take additional hour over the standard cap to reach and all were happy. The removal only removes an additional benefit to those actively playing not the afk minority of the game. The game makes you play enough to cap about, about as much as a part time job. The grind effect is something we all want to see eliminated, whether is through rollover sp or some other system. CCP has a ways to go to make this grind feeling go away, I for one don't even want to have to think about a cap again, if I'm not on, it will be there when I get back.
Get rid of active SP or only pay out 1/10 of normal active. That's the only way to fix grinding. A roll over cap does nothing to help. People are going to complain and cry no matter what CCP does so they should just turn on the hardcore switch and the give triple SP days one at a time about once every two months.
We complain that noobs are so far behind but yet we demand more SP for everything we do. We complain about the grind that no one is forced to do. We complain about everything that they try to do to fix the complaining. Bunch of babies. Turn the game on hard mode and quit trying to placate theses crying players.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:25:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The bolded part is known as Passive SP gained in battle. LOL... The community has been demanding that those SP not be awarded, as it causes people to AFK. Where have you been?? CCP has actually done this one right for a change. Get with the program. Okay, so the legitimate players who don't AFK have to play around 2x as much as normal (or more, depending on how many WP they earn) to hit the cap this week, just so the people who AFK are "punished" by having to AFK for 3x as long? Do you really think AFKers are just sitting at their PS3 watching the killfeed or something? This just means they have to deal with the minor inconvenience of queueing themselves into battles and rubberbanding in the MCC for two days more while doing whatever else they do when they AFK. MAYBE they won't be able to AFK a second or third alt due to the time constraint, but only the most dedicated players would grind out a second or third alt actively under the current tripling system, because we're talking 18ish hours of game time here, per character, and only if you manage to earn 2k-3k WP with each character every game.
This guy is right on the money.
+1 for well-written post
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1120
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:27:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't believe the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about if you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time? Or I could just AFK
Yeah and they should ban anyone found afking more than once in one day. Ban them or provide a better afk deterrent. Cheaters and crybabies.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Awry Barux
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
241
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:28:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The bolded part is known as Passive SP gained in battle. LOL... The community has been demanding that those SP not be awarded, as it causes people to AFK. Where have you been?? CCP has actually done this one right for a change. Get with the program. Okay, so the legitimate players who don't AFK have to play around 2x as much as normal (or more, depending on how many WP they earn) to hit the cap this week, just so the people who AFK are "punished" by having to AFK for 3x as long? Do you really think AFKers are just sitting at their PS3 watching the killfeed or something? This just means they have to deal with the minor inconvenience of queueing themselves into battles and rubberbanding in the MCC for two days more while doing whatever else they do when they AFK. MAYBE they won't be able to AFK a second or third alt due to the time constraint, but only the most dedicated players would grind out a second or third alt actively under the current tripling system, because we're talking 18ish hours of game time here, per character, and only if you manage to earn 2k-3k WP with each character every game. This guy is right on the money. +1 for well-written post
QFT. I was planning to binge on dust and cap out my two real characters and an alt. But, it turns out I won't be able to put in 90 hours, or even 60, shocker, so I can only cap one character. I've bought packs on multiple characters and it's almost always feasible for me to cap multiple characters. I was so excited to pop omegas and really work this event, but no. Thanks for punishing a rabid fan, CCP... |
bear90211
Nyain San Proficiency V.
40
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:29:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't believe the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about if you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time? Or I could just AFK Yeah and they should ban anyone found afking more than once in one day. Ban them or provide a better afk deterrent. Cheaters and crybabies. your point, AFK deterrent, how about, if you get no WP, you get nothing from you AFK session, that will **** off so many noobs >:D
Heavies are still squishy to my AR, just 5 rounds into them extra ;D
hmm, I want taco's...
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Asirius Medaius
625
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:35:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Michael Epic wrote:How about we just be grateful that they are offering bonus anything? Show a little class, show a little grace and just enjoy the bonus event.
All of you ungrateful half-wit d-bags are ridiculous. I feel like if someone gave you a Maserati you'd b!tch about the color and the tires weren't your brand and you didn't like the interior.
Or if someone gave you a sack of money, you'd complain about the material the sack was made of, how it felt in your hand and how ridiculous it is they gave you a sack instead of something you could put in your pocket.
That's how petty and ridiculous about 90% of you are. A bunch of f'king crybaby ass little b!tches. I swear to God when I come to this forum I feel like I should be on diaper duty. I'd imagine the CCP employees feel like they're on diaper duty changing all the wah wah babies nappies and dealing with their temper tantrums they don't like the color of the diaper and it has Lightning McQueen instead of Buzz Lightyear.
:| Don't worry, I won't be complaining because I will be afking
You will not be even close to the only one. I know several people in a few corporations that I used to play with a lot, and they all said that a majority of their mates are going to be AFKing as well.
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:43:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't believe the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about if you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time? Or I could just AFK Yeah and they should ban anyone found afking more than once in one day. Ban them or provide a better afk deterrent. Cheaters and crybabies.
If you do that, then you will take almost half of the community out. Blame the problem, not the symptom (I hope this doesn't go over your head, since I really hate explaining elementary concepts...).
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1169
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:44:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote:Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. LinkFor information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from. When does CCP learn from their mistakes?
I was going to defend CCP on this one, but after reading the whole post...... This really is pretty crappy. I mean, WP at any given time only make up like 1/7th of the total SP you get in an average domination match. So instead of 7-9k per match will be making around 10-13k
I mean, don't get me wrong. Its nice were getting a bonus, but I would have rathered them just give us a 1 week active booster instead of making it sound like an actual triple SP event.
At the same time this is a good thing too though because it means AFKers wont be able to grind passively and still get the reward. Idk..... either way it looks like i'll be grinding out as much WP as I possibly can this week.
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Nyx Linx
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:45:00 -
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In the game it says it's double sp? CCP said triple. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
884
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:48:00 -
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They never learn....
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