DUST Search - Beware: "Triple" SP Event

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Bendtner92 wrote:

Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part.

CCP Eterne wrote:

Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased.

Link

For information, there's two parts to active SP:

1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled.

2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from.

When does CCP learn from their mistakes?

its a BONUS .....wtf are you complaining for

no one is forcing you to cap out, no one is forcing you to log on every day for a bonus. its all on you. you want to cap out its on you and you can thank ccp for the bonus they are giving you or you can just ignore it and play the same amount you normally play and "oh whats this" bonus sp anyway. no one is forcing you to do anything. just accept the bonus and shut up

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RAMB0 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:07:00 - [31] - Quote Justice Prevails wrote: RAMB0 wrote: No need to play extra. It is a true 3X event. SP from battle will triple. Lear to read people! " From November 6 to 13, players will earn active Skill Points from battles at three times the normal rate. During the week, your weekly Skill Point cap will be tripled as well. Passive Skill Point gain will remain normal. " Sorry but your wrong. I thought the same thing as you. But it is in the OP and on pg 7 of the event thread. It took them 7 pages to clarify it. Wow!
Justice Prevails HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 67	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:09:00 - [32] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: RAMB0 wrote: No need to play extra. It is a true 3X event. SP from battle will triple. Lear to read people! " From November 6 to 13, players will earn active Skill Points from battles at three times the normal rate. During the week, your weekly Skill Point cap will be tripled as well. Passive Skill Point gain will remain normal. " SP cap; clarify. Does this mean the 192,000 will be tripled or does this mean once you have capped the SP cap will be tripled? Sometimes CCP say something and it means another- they have been kryptic before. Just look at it this way. The cap will be 570000 sp this week. It will take you 3x longer to cap out if your not a wp scoring machine. Hence, the grind fest. Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 58	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:15:00 - [33] - Quote they did this to discourage afk farming, so stop complaining
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1222	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:18:00 - [34] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: they did this to discourage afk farming, so stop complaining And you don't think people will AFK more since it'll take them longer to hit the cap and they might not have time to actually play more than they already do? Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 543	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:20:00 - [35] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: they did this to encourage afk farming, so stop complaining fixed
Justice Prevails HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 69	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:21:00 - [36] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote: Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. Link For information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from. When does CCP learn from their mistakes? its a BONUS .....wtf are you complaining for no one is forcing you to cap out, no one is forcing you to log on every day for a bonus. its all on you. you want to cap out its on you and you can thank ccp for the bonus they are giving you or you can just ignore it and play the same amount you normally play and "oh whats this" bonus sp anyway. no one is forcing you to do anything. just accept the bonus and shut up I think people are still happy with the bonus. But the 3x event in july was awesome. The one in aug was a major grind but ok. The OP in the event thread really made it sound like the July one. You give the a kid a sundae, then take away the fudge and whipped cream, he's not going to be happy. If you just gave him the vanilla ice cream first, he would be happy. Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 118	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:21:00 - [37] - Quote Justice Prevails wrote: The sound you hear is the air rushing out of my popped balloon, followed by a heavy sigh. The event thread was pretty funny though. 7 pages of love, then one post clariying the 3xp, and it all went to ****. Yup. I has a sad. Bollocks. I was gonna get a booster but not sure I'll bother now. Thanks Bendtner92 for raising this though, I'd totally forgotten they did this before and hadn't realised they're doing it again.
Not Sentient Archon Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 59	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:33:00 - [38] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote: Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. Link For information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from. When does CCP learn from their mistakes? And this suprises you why? I have been banned so many times by CCP that I re-hea-ly DGAF! I will just create a new account and post more crap!
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 459	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:38:00 - [39] - Quote okay so you actually have to play the game to get the reward this is CCP addressing the AFK problem we had in the past I have not 1 complaint about the november events SOONGäó
Vin Mora Sanguis Defense Syndicate 172	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:40:00 - [40] - Quote I love how entitled people can be about a reason to play a game. If you can't cap out that is fine you don't have too. This event is for those people that cap out on Thursday or Friday, giving them a reason to keep playing afterwards. I have setup a day of grinding fun with my corpmates on Saturday and it is going to be glorious. Sanguis Defense Syndicate: Recruitment now open for players of all skill levels

RAMB0 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:50:00 - [41] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: they did this to discourage afk farming, so stop complaining I actually encourages AFK.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 543	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:52:00 - [42] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: okay so you actually have to play the game to get the reward this is CCP addressing the AFK problem we had in the past I have not 1 complaint about the november events This event is going to CAUSE a afk problem, I know that I'm going to afk a lot of this SP
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1720	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:52:00 - [43] - Quote RAMB0 wrote: knight guard fury wrote: they did this to discourage afk farming, so stop complaining I actually encourages AFK. Your logic confuses and frightens me.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 543	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:54:00 - [44] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: RAMB0 wrote: knight guard fury wrote: they did this to discourage afk farming, so stop complaining I actually encourages AFK. Your logic confuses and frightens me. The event is going to cause a massive amount of afkers, it's not that hard to understand
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 180	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:57:00 - [45] - Quote The only thing that makes it a grind is the unbalanced teams Waiting on PvE Balancing without core content is a fail "Don't chu go disrespecting coconut water!" Chakra Attack
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 954	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:01:00 - [46] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Once again they somehow managed to make a SP event a massive grind. Instead of just triple all active SP they've only tripled the 1 WP = 1 SP part. CCP Eterne wrote: Passive battle SP is not increased, it's only active battle SP that is increased. Link For information, there's two parts to active SP: 1: There's the 1 WP = 1 SP part as outlined above. This part will be tripled. 2: Then there's the 1 second in battle = 5 SP part. This part will NOT be tripled, and funnily enough this part is where the majority of your active SP comes from. When does CCP learn from their mistakes? Sorry that I was wrong. I thought they understood the rage that came from the last triple. My stand point comes from the fact that I buy a booster, if I don't cap out I get the feeling of losing money if I'm not getting all that sp. Thats a bad feeling. The July event was great, it was a true triple event, everything tripled, it didn't take additional hour over the standard cap to reach and all were happy. The removal only removes an additional benefit to those actively playing not the afk minority of the game. The game makes you play enough to cap about, about as much as a part time job. The grind effect is something we all want to see eliminated, whether is through rollover sp or some other system. CCP has a ways to go to make this grind feeling go away, I for one don't even want to have to think about a cap again, if I'm not on, it will be there when I get back. GÇá Havok Core - Closed Beta Corp - Accepting Applications Here GÇá CEO // [email protected]
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1150	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:10:00 - [47] - Quote Its basically an endless grind, even if you pass the cap, wp sp will be tripled. Missing it won't be so bad after all "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1609	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:11:00 - [48] - Quote I have to play to cap out?
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 954	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:12:00 - [49] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I have to play to cap out? Not if your an AFKer just afk a bit longer is all. GÇá Havok Core - Closed Beta Corp - Accepting Applications Here GÇá CEO // [email protected]
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 543	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:13:00 - [50] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: I have to play to cap out? No, you can AFK

Justice Prevails HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 69	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:15:00 - [51] - Quote It will encourage AFKing in some form or another. It will be pubstomping all week instead of the first couple days. If you thought uplink spam was bad before, just wait. ( I believe this causes lag, not sure) Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
843 Epidemic 388	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:17:00 - [52] - Quote CCP's cute 'lil plan to get players to stop playing BF4 :') Good luck with that one. 843-BANE Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Contact me here
Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 131	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:19:00 - [53] - Quote How about we just be grateful that they are offering bonus anything? Show a little class, show a little grace and just enjoy the bonus event. All of you ungrateful half-wit d-bags are ridiculous. I feel like if someone gave you a Maserati you'd b!tch about the color and the tires weren't your brand and you didn't like the interior. Or if someone gave you a sack of money, you'd complain about the material the sack was made of, how it felt in your hand and how ridiculous it is they gave you a sack instead of something you could put in your pocket. That's how petty and ridiculous about 90% of you are. A bunch of f'king crybaby ass little b!tches. I swear to God when I come to this forum I feel like I should be on diaper duty. I'd imagine the CCP employees feel like they're on diaper duty changing all the wah wah babies nappies and dealing with their temper tantrums they don't like the color of the diaper and it has Lightning McQueen instead of Buzz Lightyear. :\|
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 543	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:20:00 - [54] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: How about we just be grateful that they are offering bonus anything? Show a little class, show a little grace and just enjoy the bonus event. All of you ungrateful half-wit d-bags are ridiculous. I feel like if someone gave you a Maserati you'd b!tch about the color and the tires weren't your brand and you didn't like the interior. Or if someone gave you a sack of money, you'd complain about the material the sack was made of, how it felt in your hand and how ridiculous it is they gave you a sack instead of something you could put in your pocket. That's how petty and ridiculous about 90% of you are. A bunch of f'king crybaby ass little b!tches. I swear to God when I come to this forum I feel like I should be on diaper duty. I'd imagine the CCP employees feel like they're on diaper duty changing all the wah wah babies nappies and dealing with their temper tantrums they don't like the color of the diaper and it has Lightning McQueen instead of Buzz Lightyear. :\| Don't worry, I won't be complaining because I will be afking
Justice Prevails HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 70	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:38:00 - [55] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: How about we just be grateful that they are offering bonus anything? Show a little class, show a little grace and just enjoy the bonus event. All of you ungrateful half-wit d-bags are ridiculous. I feel like if someone gave you a Maserati you'd b!tch about the color and the tires weren't your brand and you didn't like the interior. Or if someone gave you a sack of money, you'd complain about the material the sack was made of, how it felt in your hand and how ridiculous it is they gave you a sack instead of something you could put in your pocket. That's how petty and ridiculous about 90% of you are. A bunch of f'king crybaby ass little b!tches. I swear to God when I come to this forum I feel like I should be on diaper duty. I'd imagine the CCP employees feel like they're on diaper duty changing all the wah wah babies nappies and dealing with their temper tantrums they don't like the color of the diaper and it has Lightning McQueen instead of Buzz Lightyear. :\| No, it's more like I was happy with my nice clean Buzz Lightyear diapers and that ***** nanny took them off, then put on a pair of soiled Lightning McQueens. The way their doing this it is just going to 3x the problems everyone's been talking about. Things like uplink spam, pubstomping, and AFKing. I'd rather they not do it at all. Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 821	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:46:00 - [56] - Quote If they completely removed match time SP I'd imagine this thread would turn into a complaint about how AFKers are treated unfairly. Dont you guys have anything else to complain about other than the inability to AFK harder? Players who play get more SP? Thats a surprise.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2394	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:47:00 - [57] - Quote All this angst comes from the fact that our brains are wired to react more strongly to loss than gain. CCP introduced loss two ways, first by implying 3x Passive Active points and letting that impression last for days before killing it, second by the specter of failing to collect all of the prize. The potential failure to collect the whole prize is intensified if you are running boosters, and it's the greatest if you are running the most expensive booster. It doesn't matter if all of this prize is free, it only matters to our risk averse brains that we might lose out on a portion of it. The fact that we measure ourselves against each other and are rather competitive boosts the feeling of loss. You don't want to admit that you failed to cap out when your competitors did. Yes the prize is free, but it is presented in such a way as to frame it as a potential loss. So it is not surprising that people the complaining. It's not childishness, it's simply human nature and CCP could have mitigated part of it.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2973	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:49:00 - [58] - Quote AFK-ing would definitely be the easier route to go than actually playing 30+ hours to cap. The "AFK-fix" was supposed to stop AFK-ing so they wouldn't need to penalize the player base with their SP events. I don't need to be an AFKer for 30 hours of gameplay to cap to be a pain, I just need a life and a job. It makes the event less of a "event" and more of a tedious grind if you want to take advantage of it. As-is, I won't waste a booster or login for this horseshit. It just goes to show they don't listen to the players, and design their events to persuade players to go try Battlefield or CoD.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 416	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:52:00 - [59] - Quote On the one hand, bonus SP, great. As someone who generally makes the cap I am happy they are offering more sp to get. However, on the other hand, I would prefer the original 3x SP event to this version. If you want to worry about the November events then look at the last one. If I remember correctly it is only the proto tier reward that offers you something that you can not buy for Isk on the market. As such the final week is a call, for all those who have proto fits, to put them on and kill. Now you only need to use a proto weapon but those things are expensive and I would prefer to use it with a proto fit to, hopefully, minimise my deaths. So if you do not have a very good AdV fit and proto weapon or a decent proto fit then you will be entering hell week at the end of November as all those vets now have a reason to wear them for the entire week. Proto stomp on steroids here we come.
Thor McStrut Reckoners 319	Posted - 2013.11.05 15:55:00 - [60] - Quote The idiocy in this thread is incredible. "Whaaaaaa! CCP is forcing me the earn all these SP that they tripled! I can't bflieve the GRIND! CCP has some nerve FORCING me to play their game!!" How about I'd you don't like to grind, DON'T? There's a ******* idea! What do you want? A 1/3 SP event, so you can get all the available SP in 1/3 the time?



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