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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:29:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Ferocitan wrote:if CCP could make better tools /enable an easier way to integrate chat /voice in matches between Eve and Dust without opening chat tab and change channels and write stuff for that damn orbital... I'm going to put EVE pilots into the team chat when they connect so you can type and talk to them. That should make things a little easier. I think this would help.
In all honesty, I don't know what a better solution would be, I don't like crowded Comms so giving the EVE pilot the ability to join our Comms and then leave is great. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
300
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:34:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Titus Stryker wrote:I have been playing Dust since early closed Beta (June 2012). Tonight I had one of the most unique experiences so far in this game, and it was awesome.
I called in my first strike from EVE...and got zero kills, it was a blind shot in the redline as we were crushing it. Next strike took out 5 guys and did 12,000 damage on the CRU, or so I was told. Called in about 5 strikes total from EVE side. It was a lot of fun just switching chat channels to where the EVE guys were waiting and I would say, "Titus ready for OB", and then they would lock on the district and then boom booms would come from the sky (they looked cool, different than the Warbarge strikes, I think we called in lasers) Yeah for you! All the while the people on the other side were probably having the worst experience of their time on DUST. Because you see while pushing them back behind the redline and then OBing them to oblivion was fun for you it must have been extremely frustrating for them. Maybe even to the point of making them want to quit this game for good. But hey at least you had fun, right? Pffff, CCP needs to fix this kinda of crap. Bro its FW, if you ain't got the coordination or SP you shouldn't be in there in the first place.
I'm no fan of protostomping myself but yeah, it is FW. That's not where the problem lie. If there was no proto equipment in pubs, only in FW, nobody would really care about it anymore, all the noobs would be protected in pubs and when they were ready for more hardcore competition to make themselves better, FW is available (unlike PC).
On a related note, similar times in Amarr FW kinda did the same for me. I can remember having a bunch of guys camped under the platform socket on Manus peak at 'C'. We couldn't get them out, and figured an OB wouldn't work b/c they were underneath the overhang until I hear on the comm "Checking... We do have EVE support! Do it!"
*BOOM*
Those EVE strikes are AMAZING. Battle over, right there. We had a slight edge to begin with, but this sealed it.
Templar'd for her pleasure
Amarr victor!
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1924
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:35:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Ferocitan wrote:if CCP could make better tools /enable an easier way to integrate chat /voice in matches between Eve and Dust without opening chat tab and change channels and write stuff for that damn orbital... I'm going to put EVE pilots into the team chat when they connect so you can type and talk to them. That should make things a little easier.
Excellent. Organized groups are using staging channel to laison between fleet / ground action, but being able to get pilots into team comms would be useful. Team / Squad leaders will also need a way to kick out pilots though.
an art
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XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
427
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:36:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Levithunder wrote:Cool story bro, remember its soon TM , the devs have been quiet lately because we complain to much about a free game, we wouldn't if statements like this weren't put up start putting dates on your stuff. We should start a new player made trademark, "When? (tm)" In all honesty we don't do dates because they change too often, especially with a monthly release cycle. We are working on it now and we will ship it when it's done. You mean WhenGäó?
Who says you can't kill in style?
Fear the tribes.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3589
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:40:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote:I have been playing Dust since early closed Beta (June 2012). Tonight I had one of the most unique experiences so far in this game, and it was awesome.
Last night I decided to run some Caldari FW, did well, got invited to Caldari FW chat channel. I didn't think much of it at the time.
Tonight, things really opened up. It started with 2 squads Qsyncing, then 3, then 4 and then 5! We had 5 squads Qsyncing for Caldari and we had EVE support for our OBs. It was amazingly fun.
I called in my first strike from EVE...and got zero kills, it was a blind shot in the redline as we were crushing it. Next strike took out 5 guys and did 12,000 damage on the CRU, or so I was told. Called in about 5 strikes total from EVE side. It was a lot of fun just switching chat channels to where the EVE guys were waiting and I would say, "Titus ready for OB", and then they would lock on the district and then boom booms would come from the sky (they looked cool, different than the Warbarge strikes, I think we called in lasers)
I had a ton of fun and am really looking forward to the new FW system as it seems like it is going to be even better.
For the first time, I really felt like I was feeling how this game is supposed to make you feel, a part of something bigger, a part of New Eden. Playing with strangers in different games but engaged in a commonness together
Shout Out to a few folks but I am sure I am missing some Middas Bentancore Mr Tang Rageheavy Horus Forge plus many others
/end rant
GOOD!
Dust 514 needs more of this - it's one of the ways we keep our guys in ANONYMOUS entertained and eager to do PC matches is because of the involvement of our Eve side. I have to say that there is no greater feeling of empowerment in the WORLD better than dual-boxing Eve Online and Dust 514 right beside one another... To personally call one's own Tactical Strike, defended by both infantry and star-ship alike..? It all feels like slow motion.
If there's a Heaven when I die, I won't go if New Eden isn't there.
ANON Diplomat // 3rd Place Winner of the Eight Thousand Suns Fiction Contest
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1315
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:43:00 -
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Faction warfare really is a lot of fun, particularly when you go for a faction that isn't steamrolling the warzone since it means you can get two squads into the same match more often than not. Bailing out of PC to focus on FW is probably the best thing Subdreddit has done in the last 6 months, particularly with our Eve counterparts focusing on Caldari FW. We're getting lots of close fights and some good interaction with Eve. And the Eve guys are having a lot of fun dashing all over the warzone bombing planets. I imported 20 bombardment destroyers to give out, and they were all gone in less than a week. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1924
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:47:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:Faction warfare really is a lot of fun, particularly when you go for a faction that isn't steamrolling the warzone since it means you can get two squads into the same match more often than not. Bailing out of PC to focus on FW is probably the best thing Subdreddit has done in the last 6 months, particularly with our Eve counterparts focusing on Caldari FW. We're getting lots of close fights and some good interaction with Eve. And the Eve guys are having a lot of fun dashing all over the warzone bombing planets. I imported 20 bombardment destroyers to give out, and they were all gone in less than a week.
Dustbros operating in concert with our alliance bros in space is also a pile of fun. Makes shitting up alliance chat that much more meaningful.
an art
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Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
255
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:27:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Levithunder wrote:Cool story bro, remember its soon TM , the devs have been quiet lately because we complain to much about a free game, we wouldn't if statements like this weren't put up start putting dates on your stuff. We should start a new player made trademark, "When? (tm)" In all honesty we don't do dates because they change too often, especially with a monthly release cycle. We are working on it now and we will ship it when it's done. You mean WhenGäó? NO WAY!! HOW YOU DO DAT?? whenTM
I'm friends with the monster thats under my bed,
I get along with the voices thats in my head,
WELL CRAZY IS MY FRIEND
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
98
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:32:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote:I have been playing Dust since early closed Beta (June 2012). Tonight I had one of the most unique experiences so far in this game, and it was awesome.
Last night I decided to run some Caldari FW, did well, got invited to Caldari FW chat channel. I didn't think much of it at the time.
Tonight, things really opened up. It started with 2 squads Qsyncing, then 3, then 4 and then 5! We had 5 squads Qsyncing for Caldari and we had EVE support for our OBs. It was amazingly fun.
I called in my first strike from EVE...and got zero kills, it was a blind shot in the redline as we were crushing it. Next strike took out 5 guys and did 12,000 damage on the CRU, or so I was told. Called in about 5 strikes total from EVE side. It was a lot of fun just switching chat channels to where the EVE guys were waiting and I would say, "Titus ready for OB", and then they would lock on the district and then boom booms would come from the sky (they looked cool, different than the Warbarge strikes, I think we called in lasers)
I had a ton of fun and am really looking forward to the new FW system as it seems like it is going to be even better.
For the first time, I really felt like I was feeling how this game is supposed to make you feel, a part of something bigger, a part of New Eden. Playing with strangers in different games but engaged in a commonness together
Shout Out to a few folks but I am sure I am missing some Middas Bentancore Mr Tang Rageheavy Horus Forge plus many others
/end rant I runned with you last matches... I must do it again tonight!
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
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XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
431
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:34:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:XANDER KAG wrote:
You mean WhenGäó?
NO WAY!! HOW YOU DO DAT?? whenTM Simple, hold the Alt key, then hit 0, 1, 5, 3 in that order, and presto, you have a nice spicy soonGäó.
Who says you can't kill in style?
Fear the tribes.
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General John Ripper
11603
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:17:00 -
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I am just happy that OP had fun.
Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior
Founder of the Forum Warrior Club
King of Tacos
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Wombat in combat
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
122
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:01:00 -
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I had this experience at the Fanfest tournament, having EVE guys shouting on comms they had an OB ready, working together. It was goose bump inducing. Most fun I've ever had in this game.
I'd imagine the most seamless comms integration (for players perspective) would be to allow Dust player to invite EVE players into their squads and pull them into team chat. EVE players would obviously not count towards the max players in squad or team but it'd be cool to see their names listed. Another approach would be a new context menu option on a district for EVE players to join the team chat of ongoing battle with no preparation at all, driveby orbital bombardment support if you will. |
Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles
83
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:04:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:Are there standard voice channels for the other factions as well?
I started this thread here for answers: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1452805#post1452805
I do not think CCP has established "official" channels, I believe they are all player driven...hence their game models. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3551
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:04:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Ferocitan wrote:if CCP could make better tools /enable an easier way to integrate chat /voice in matches between Eve and Dust without opening chat tab and change channels and write stuff for that damn orbital... I'm going to put EVE pilots into the team chat when they connect so you can type and talk to them. That should make things a little easier. You think you can make it an option to automatically set Dust players voice chat to "Team" when they get put in a match, then automatically move it back to "Squad" after the match? It's a bit of a hassle to manually do it every time that what happens is nearly all organized squads simply stay in squad chat.
Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation!
Amarr Victor!
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
412
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:54:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Levithunder wrote:Cool story bro, remember its soon TM , the devs have been quiet lately because we complain to much about a free game, we wouldn't if statements like this weren't put up start putting dates on your stuff. We should start a new player made trademark, "When? (tm)" In all honesty we don't do dates because they change too often, especially with a monthly release cycle. We are working on it now and we will ship it when it's done. You mean WhenGäó?
More like:
WHEN!!!!!!Gäó
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Fenix Alexarr
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
36
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:03:00 -
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I knew it would stick! |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
442
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:04:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:good game titus!
i liked it because no matter what corp we are in we were fighting for the same cause, the state protectorate :)
those tactial hybrid strikes thou... OP much :P blast radius stats please???
I saw people on my side use that thing. It is beastly. |
Raskutor
DUST University Ivy League
58
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:10:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:SILVERBACK 02 wrote:good game titus!
i liked it because no matter what corp we are in we were fighting for the same cause, the state protectorate :)
those tactial hybrid strikes thou... OP much :P blast radius stats please???
I saw people on my side use that thing. It is beastly.
Yes. The first time I saw an EVE-based OB, I was in awe. Not only are they much more awesome looking, but the faster rate of fire makes it sound insane as well. Can't wait for pure laser OB's, though. Hopefully some type of continuous beam laser, scorching everything it touches. A glorious beam of holy, purifying light from the Heavens. Would be truly awe-inspiring indeed.
For my Empress.
For my brethren.
AMARR VICTOR! o7
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2184
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:12:00 -
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Very cool! I would love to know what the chat channel would be for Minmater if there is one!
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles
85
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:16:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Very cool! I would love to know what the chat channel would be for Minmater if there is one!
Enjoy |
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2184
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:18:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Very cool! I would love to know what the chat channel would be for Minmater if there is one! Enjoy
Thank you Titus!
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles
85
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:28:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Titus Stryker wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Very cool! I would love to know what the chat channel would be for Minmater if there is one! Enjoy Thank you Titus! welcome |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1320
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:30:00 -
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I wouldn't want an automatic switch to team voice. Right now TEST has a channel for our mercs and bombardment-minded pilots to share comms. It's handy to simple be able to say the name of a planet, and receive feedback about whether or not orbital support will be possible. Usually it works out, but sometimes gate camps or hostile fleets in system stop him from connecting. I'd rather know that before I get the WP for my first orbital and look up in the sky, wondering if he's ever going to make it to the system. |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
694
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:34:00 -
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Ferocitan wrote:if CCP could make better tools /enable an easier way to integrate chat /voice in matches between Eve and Dust without opening chat tab and change channels and write stuff for that damn orbital... I saw one in action today...a hybrid tactical strike. it was against us though. |
Middas Betancore
Chronological Protection Agency
8
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:35:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor, I believe that having pilots joining team chat when they connect to districts may not be the ideal modification, when we are using eve support a lot of the time the strike ship will be in the system in a safe spot waiting for the signal from the ground teams that they are ready for orbital support as siting over the district connected is quite unsafe.
Perhaps as an alternative the pilots could have an option on their menus when in system, as well as being able to warp to district they can "establish comm up-link" which will connect them to the team chat for the relevant district battle. This would enable the pilot to stay in direct contact with the ground teams so when they are going to require OB support he can warp to the district and safely warp away when not needed.
Another option would be to allow pilots to search for team channels by inputting the planet and district designation into channel finder, allowing them to be in contact as they are traveling to the site.
As a final note, during one session we had 4 squads split between two planets in the same system with one strike ship in system for support, which again can present its only problems for easy communication.
We used a central channel which included the pilot and the primary squad, while other squads used either squad chat or team chat under their own preference, then whenever a strike became available the squad leader would switch to the central channel and request support, the pilot would then move to the appropriate location and deliver the strike. Though this may sound awkward to some, it worked flawlessly with all squads being able to deliver their strikes within a minute of being requested on both planets.
I hope this information is helpful to dev teams and other players |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
694
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:36:00 -
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Raskutor wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:SILVERBACK 02 wrote:good game titus!
i liked it because no matter what corp we are in we were fighting for the same cause, the state protectorate :)
those tactial hybrid strikes thou... OP much :P blast radius stats please???
I saw people on my side use that thing. It is beastly. Yes. The first time I saw an EVE-based OB, I was in awe. Not only are they much more awesome looking, but the faster rate of fire makes it sound insane as well. Can't wait for pure laser OB's, though. Hopefully some type of continuous beam laser, scorching everything it touches. A glorious beam of holy, purifying light from the Heavens. Would be truly awe-inspiring indeed. It would be awesome if each racial ship had different "OBs" with different color, sound, and style! oh yeah |
Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles
85
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:37:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:I wouldn't want an automatic switch to team voice. Right now TEST has a channel for our mercs and bombardment-minded pilots to share comms. It's handy to simple be able to say the name of a planet, and receive feedback about whether or not orbital support will be possible. Usually it works out, but sometimes gate camps or hostile fleets in system stop him from connecting. I'd rather know that before I get the WP for my first orbital and look up in the sky, wondering if he's ever going to make it to the system. I agree that is beneficial to discuss the logistics before hand.
I am not sure how it works for the Pilots but I know that being a squad leader and switching between channels while trying to call an OB while trying to not get shot and still help your team can be cumbersome. I would like to give notice to a pilot that I am ready for OB and then be on team comes and when they connect I can coordinate that they are ready to strike and I am ready to call it in and my team can relay where to call it in.
But I do have a fear of over crowded comms. |
Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles
85
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:38:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Raskutor wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:SILVERBACK 02 wrote:good game titus!
i liked it because no matter what corp we are in we were fighting for the same cause, the state protectorate :)
those tactial hybrid strikes thou... OP much :P blast radius stats please???
I saw people on my side use that thing. It is beastly. Yes. The first time I saw an EVE-based OB, I was in awe. Not only are they much more awesome looking, but the faster rate of fire makes it sound insane as well. Can't wait for pure laser OB's, though. Hopefully some type of continuous beam laser, scorching everything it touches. A glorious beam of holy, purifying light from the Heavens. Would be truly awe-inspiring indeed. It would be awesome if each racial ship had different "OBs" with different color, sound, and style! oh yeah I believe the strikes vary visually by ammo type... |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2922
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:38:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:CCP Nullarbor, I believe that having pilots joining team chat when they connect to districts may not be the ideal modification, when we are using eve support a lot of the time the strike ship will be in the system in a safe spot waiting for the signal from the ground teams that they are ready for orbital support as siting over the district connected is quite unsafe.
Perhaps as an alternative the pilots could have an option on their menus when in system, as well as being able to warp to district they can "establish comm up-link" which will connect them to the team chat for the relevant district battle. This would enable the pilot to stay in direct contact with the ground teams so when they are going to require OB support he can warp to the district and safely warp away when not needed.
Another option would be to allow pilots to search for team channels by inputting the planet and district designation into channel finder, allowing them to be in contact as they are traveling to the site.
As a final note, during one session we had 4 squads split between two planets in the same system with one strike ship in system for support, which again can present its only problems for easy communication.
We used a central channel which included the pilot and the primary squad, while other squads used either squad chat or team chat under their own preference, then whenever a strike became available the squad leader would switch to the central channel and request support, the pilot would then move to the appropriate location and deliver the strike. Though this may sound awkward to some, it worked flawlessly with all squads being able to deliver their strikes within a minute of being requested on both planets.
I hope this information is helpful to dev teams and other players
With the new orbital mechanics the EVE pilot will need to stay sitting directly on the satellite to unlock the strike. That's the whole point, we want their ship to be at risk.
CCP Nullarbor // Twerking Consultant // Team True Grit
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1320
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:41:00 -
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Middas Betancore wrote:CCP Nullarbor, We used a central channel which included the pilot and the primary squad, while other squads used either squad chat or team chat under their own preference, then whenever a strike became available the squad leader would switch to the central channel and request support, the pilot would then move to the appropriate location and deliver the strike. Though this may sound awkward to some, it worked flawlessly with all squads being able to deliver their strikes within a minute of being requested on both planets.
I now wish I hadn't logged off. It reminds me of the future vision trailer with the merc huddling behind cover, waiting for that strike to come. |
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