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But it's fair when infantry can fit complex and PRO everything, right?

now they're going to nerf the CPU skill

So you don't consider the reduction of modules to be a nerf?

But the underlined section is a kick in the gut. There is no reason to run tanks. CCP/Shanghai has decided that the described method it the Only method that a tank will be allowed to run.

Well, I've fit a Madrugar with all complex mods (admittedly, it'll take something like 14M SP to complete) and it should be a pretty decent brawler. I don't think anyone will have enough SP to run both right now, not really.

Gunnlogi is built for dealing damage - it'll be able to blitz basically anything with a damage-modded railgun, and O'Dell mentioned on another thread that with PRO missiles, it'll be able to hit for something like 6k DPS against Madrugars (not for long, but still). Furthermore, we'll be basically invulnerable while our countermeasures are online - 60% damage resists (for Maddy) is pretty obscene; it's not something I can get right now, in fact. If I run a complex repper with skills maxed, that's 160 HP/s, compared to my 440 now, but the hardener will expand that pretty hugely, and I'd not be surprised if I could get a buddy hand-repping me for the Guardian points.

And don't forget, they're buffing repair tools

Once you run the numbers, this comes out as a pretty nice buff, especially considering that AV is getting a nerf across the board. I'm pretty excited about the changes.

(sorry about double-post; too many quotes for one )

EDIT: Fixed another bad quote -.- apparently I need to improve my forum skills.

Well, I've fit a Madrugar with all complex mods (admittedly, it'll take something like 14M SP to complete) and it should be a pretty decent brawler. I don't think anyone will have enough SP to run both right now, not really.

Gunnlogi is built for dealing damage - it'll be able to blitz basically anything with a damage-modded railgun, and O'Dell mentioned on another thread that with PRO missiles, it'll be able to hit for something like 6k DPS against Madrugars (not for long, but still). Furthermore, we'll be basically invulnerable while our countermeasures are online - 60% damage resists (for Maddy) is pretty obscene; it's not something I can get right now, in fact. If I run a complex repper with skills maxed, that's 160 HP/s, compared to my 440 now, but the hardener will expand that pretty hugely, and I'd not be surprised if I could get a buddy hand-repping me for the Guardian points.

And don't forget, they're buffing repair tools

Once you run the numbers, this comes out as a pretty nice buff, especially considering that AV is getting a nerf across the board. I'm pretty excited about the changes.

(sorry about double-post; too many quotes for one )

EDIT: Fixed another bad quote -.- apparently I need to improve my forum skills.

We need proto vehicles

Looks like we'll be getting them.

I'm very certain the armor hardener is a 40% resistance while the shield hardener is a 60% resistance. The numbers given to us are multipliers, and the only thing they could multiply with .6 and .4, respectively, is incoming damage.

But it looks like though I'll be running all complex mods with no small turrets. I'll just need to be extra careful about sticking with infantry. But my numbers tell me I'll be able to absorb 18 seconds of a blaster Madrugar before blowing up. More than enough time to blow it up and retreat.

Because I'm sure that it will come down to who will be able to come back into action the quickest, and complex mods will do just that.

you have an armour rep on shield tank?
thats why you got no pwr gird. and you dont have to fit the small turrets either.
once a logi loses its shields its basically doomed.

So you want me to use the forums your way, instead of the way I want to?

What do you mean by real fit?

I assure you, with all Lvl 5s, this fit is a 'real' fit (Whatever that may be)

It was said that you couldn't fit full Proto / Complex on a Standard dropsuit, nobody ever said it had to be good.

It was you, ranting for 30 mins because I fked your ****** gunnlogi, not me.

Now stop derailing useful tanker threads and troll somewhere else.

Yeah, you can also rail snipe with a tank full of complex PG and CPU upgrade modules

HOWEVER

in which suit do you want to face your opponent, the one posted by you or a state of the art ck0?

@Takahiro Kashuken
I was the one laughing the rest of the evening at you, lol.
Also, remember when you gave me your tank and raged again? It is always you raging and being butthurt, little prince.

The Ck.0 of course.

But the fit that I posted is decent.

You've got a decent amount of HP, a great Primary, a good Sidearm, a useful Grenade, and REs that can come in handy for Letter defence, or even taking out Proto suits.

All for 99k ISK.

Sure if I had the choice, I'd go with a Ck.0.

Who wouldn't?

Why would i give you a tank? oh yes just to see how bad you are with it and guess what it got blown up because you are that bad

Frankly why are you in tank threads?

The Ck.0 of course.

But the fit that I posted is decent.

You've got a decent amount of HP, a great Primary, a good Sidearm, a useful Grenade, and REs that can come in handy for Letter defence, or even taking out Proto suits.

All for 99k ISK.

Sure if I had the choice, I'd go with a Ck.0.

Who wouldn't?

Damn, seeing that made me sad......