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daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 07:29:00 -
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The armor repairer is not as effective on basic level, than it is on complex. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 11:04:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:2. He shows that mixing and matching both Light and Heavy modules is probably going to be the best way of getting a balanced fitting, the notion that Light Modules = Dropship / LAV territory only is going to be one that might need some reexamining in 1.7
lol no, just don't try to go full complex on a STD hull
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daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 11:20:00 -
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1. You are no tanker, wtf are you doing here?
> Active armor repair modules are being removed.
2. This thread is about shield tanks u fk
> But it's fair when infantry can fit complex and PRO everything, right?
3. You can't full proto a STD suit .. so you are no infantry either
WHAT THE **** DO YOU EVEN PLAY? Sit in the tank of your chinese fbuddy and whisper him sweet words into his ear?
Edit: And stop triple and quadruple post everywhere u fk |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 11:33:00 -
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daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:53:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:@name
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your answer So you want me to use the forums your way, instead of the way I want to?
My way and the way of every other person here, except you.
Edit: harpbaby, give a link to spreadsheet pls |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:06:00 -
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This is no real fit.
You can also fit only complex CPU and complex PG upgrades on your tank + a proto rail and be full proto. GJ troll |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:18:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:What do you mean by real fit? I assure you, with all Lvl 5s, this fit is a 'real' fit (Whatever that may be) It was said that you couldn't fit full Proto / Complex on a Standard dropsuit, nobody ever said it had to be good. 
We can also fit full proto on STD tanks, as I said, however, we can not fit something which is useful on a battlefield.
Which is pretty much okay, since we get proto tanks soonTM which can be fully fitted with proto stuff.
@Takahiro Kashuken
go kiss your fbuddy |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:24:00 -
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It was you, ranting for 30 mins because I fked your ****** gunnlogi, not me.
Now stop derailing useful tanker threads and troll somewhere else. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:31:00 -
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Yeah, you can also rail snipe with a tank full of complex PG and CPU upgrade modules
HOWEVER
in which suit do you want to face your opponent, the one posted by you or a state of the art ck0?
@Takahiro Kashuken
I was the one laughing the rest of the evening at you, lol.
Also, remember when you gave me your tank and raged again? It is always you raging and being butthurt, little prince. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:42:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Yeah, you can also rail snipe with a tank full of complex PG and CPU upgrade modules HOWEVER in which suit do you want to face your opponent, the one posted by you or a state of the art ck0? @ Takahiro KashukenI was the one laughing the rest of the evening at you, lol. Also, remember when you gave me your tank and raged again? It is always you raging and being butthurt, little prince. The Ck.0 of course. But the fit that I posted is decent. You've got a decent amount of HP, a great Primary, a good Sidearm, a useful Grenade, and REs that can come in handy for Letter defence, or even taking out Proto suits. All for 99k ISK. Sure if I had the choice, I'd go with a Ck.0. Who wouldn't?
Yeah, see, we have no ck0 right now. :)
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Why would i give you a tank? oh yes just to see how bad you are with it and guess what it got blown up because you are that bad
Frankly why are you in tank threads?
Actually, it was more a taking by me than giving by you. Made me laugh so hard seeing you jump out of that tank and let me drive away.
I love the fact that you come here to protect your little lover from me. You two are one of the reasons I'm here. |
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daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:44:00 -
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Harpyja, can you link your spreadsheet? |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:49:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Harpyja, can you link your spreadsheet? I'll try, but it's on excel. Plus I'm going to remake it as mentioned in the OP now. Edit: I'll see if I can link it this evening, central US time
Would be great .. I have one, don't know from whom, but it'S PG and CPU calculation is wrong. That's why I asked.
@Takahiro Kashuken
I don't stalk you, you are just easy lulz every day. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:08:00 -
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The majority of your posts in this thread is mainly directed towards me, I just spend two secs at the end of every post to keep you motivated to go on, my little prince. ^.- |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:21:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:so if I reinvest the same SP Shouldn't you have said **Spoiler Alert**
Nice find! :D
IWS talks too much :S |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:44:00 -
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If CCP acts the same as always only skills which are altered / removed / replaced are refunded. (= all vehicle skills)
AV gets nerfed, no skill changes there .. so no refund for them. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 17:42:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Yeah, you can also rail snipe with a tank full of complex PG and CPU upgrade modules HOWEVER in which suit do you want to face your opponent, the one posted by you or a state of the art ck0? @ Takahiro KashukenI was the one laughing the rest of the evening at you, lol. Also, remember when you gave me your tank and raged again? It is always you raging and being butthurt, little prince. You mean the one I rammed and blew up with a much lesser tank?
Yeah, it was a terrible fit, that's why your Militia Soma was able to kill it.
You little spammy fslave. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:22:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:I have decided to remake my spreadsheet from scratch using Google drive. I can't promise a delivery time, but I hope to get it finished soon! (Either tonight US central, or over the weekend)
Awesome news! Good luck and make it public afterwards :D
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:my butt, it hurts so much
It was so bad, I had to destroy it. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:58:00 -
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You can click "File -> Share" I suppose and set options, so they can only copy it, not change it. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 20:24:00 -
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They did the same last patch, altered a skill and refunded all SP.
See, every vehicle skill tree gets fundamentally changed and there is absolutely no way to transfer current SP into the new tree. e.g. right now we have shield HAV and armor HAV skills .. soon there will be only one skill. Same is true for upgrades and and turrets.
For AV ... yeah .. there will be no skill changes afaik, only number balance. Range, dmg etc ... so no respecc there. |
daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 21:17:00 -
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is good to give a full respec for vehicle SP.
Just to elaborate my point a bit: Right now I've skilled Vehicle Command -> Gallente LAV -> Gallente HAV
I never wanted the LAV skill, I had to take it to get the HAV skill. What to do in 1.7? GIve me both, give me only HAV .. ?
With the other skill trees it is even more complicated, since they change radically .. many skills won't even exist in 1.7 anymore (or will be added later again)
I personally would think a full SP refund of those three trees (command, upgrades, turrets) would be okay, if everybody has to spend those SP into the new vehicle trees. This would still allow to change from tank to dropship or whatever, but prohibit people to put those SP into new dropsuits, weapons ... (and I know plenty of people who think they get 10m+ SP back and can skill the new weapons immediately)
However, I don't know whether this is technically possible.
As for AV, not giving them a respec is fine .. people choose av, people killed vehicles with it .. and it will be the same in the future (only less damage)
To the one point with people switching to AV ... this is a strong reason to field a tank, so my infantry can massacre through all the AV guys. |
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daishi mk03
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Posted - 2013.11.01 22:01:00 -
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Just think of people who unlocked and/or leveled up enforcers ... they'll have to get 1m+ SP back.
However, I hope that they follow your idea and preserve as much decisions as possible, by allocating SP to the appropriate "new" skills. Could work on vehicle upgrades. For turrets ... e.g. how to split up those points in hybrid turrets?
If they can allocate something like 50% of the SP and not refund all, this would already be great success.
I personally will continue sitting in my madrugar, shooting infantry and retreating every 45 sec behind my squad to wait for my hardener :) |
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