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CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 3173	Posted - 2013.10.31 15:31:00 - [1] - Quote The DUST 514 Veteran Pack and the DUST 514 Elite Pack will be retiring from the PlayStation Store on November 5, 2013, after the Uprising 1.6 release goes live. They will remain available for purchase on the PlayStation Store and the Sony Entertainment Network online store in all regions until then. After that, these packs will be gone for good. This is your last chance to secure the coveted permanent Dren and Covenant gear, so stock up now! CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 315	Posted - 2013.10.31 15:44:00 - [2] - Quote Are they being replaced with anything substantial? Or is it going to be packs on par with the "Tactical" pack? If there will no longer be a pack that gives 2000 Aurum per dollar and active/passive boosters, it's safe to say I'll never be spending any more money on this game.
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 115	Posted - 2013.10.31 15:51:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah I didn't really like the new tactical packs or whatever, but of course, with blueprints now gone I'm wondering what will make them worthwhile - perhaps they'll have some combination active/passive/FW boosters included or something. It's true that I always bough them because of the combined booster/aurum/blueprint value...
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 163	Posted - 2013.10.31 16:03:00 - [4] - Quote I was gonna be picking one up at weekend which i may still do. but if the replacements are going to be the W.A.R packs then i think my spending on this game is gonna go waaaaay down. I thought the idea for DUST to be successful is to grow the playerbase? not force it away, between the balls up of the BPO removal and the changes to merc packs most of the vets are gonna just not bother buying them. seeing as AUR is a make-believe currency you generate out of thin air its pretty much all profit the merc packs were successful because they were a great deal in the playerbases eyes whereas these new W.A.R packs..... well, Arn't!
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 548	Posted - 2013.10.31 16:07:00 - [5] - Quote Future cash offering need to be better tailored to the various levels of players that are in the game. These crazy packs of perishable items that span across so many skill sets are widely impractical for most players. Offering several weapons, module and dropsuit options in one package, especially ones that require players to skill into a wide array of skills to even try out goes against the basic principle of skilling deep first and then wider as you lock into a specialization. Different tiers of items need to be offered to appeal to new players and veteran players alike. Although most veteran players are going to interested in strictly cosmetic changes to already existing dropsuits and weapons. But cash pack could be very useful to newer players, to help them experiment with different items before dedicating a lot of skill points into them up front. These items should be Basic level gear so no SP is required. Dropsuit packs and weapons packs, modest in price and quantity are your best bet. Chances are you can sell more at the $5-$25 level than you ever will at the $50-$100 level. Profit through quantity over price point. Charge less, sell more, make more....as opposed to charge more, sell less, make less. Full disclosure on such items is also key. Full fitting breakdowns and skill required should be included for all items, lest players end up paying real cash for items they can never use. In fact, it might just be better to avoid packs that require certain skills altogether. Skill based items should only be available for AUR.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1319	Posted - 2013.10.31 16:12:00 - [6] - Quote So what will they be replaced with? I wanna buy something cool.
xp3ll3d dust The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 92	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:20:00 - [7] - Quote I have spent hundreds of dollars on this game so far, but only on packs that have long term effects. I purchased 5x merc packs. The Elite pack Then the W.A.R. packs were announced, they are just useless disposable/consumable items, so instead I went back and purchased The Veteran pack, just to round out the BPOs that I'd get. I've also had boosters plugged in constantly since closed beta. (as these have long term benefits as SP). The point is I have shunned the tactical packs, etc. as they i just burn through them. Or they are a mishmash of random items that I'm not going to use (weapon pack where I get ALL the base weapons, but I won't use them all, or I'm skilled into higher weapons already). I'm obviously not shy about spending money on this game, but I want PERMANENT changes to my account / character (BPO, permanent item, long term SP/LP gains, etc).
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 319	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:37:00 - [8] - Quote The only consumable item packs I'd see as worthwhile would be advanced suits/weps/equipment with no skill prerequisites. Like an assault pack with advanced assault suits from the four races, plus light weps and advanced grenades, all of which require no skills.
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 941	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:39:00 - [9] - Quote xp3ll3d dust wrote: I have spent hundreds of dollars on this game so far, but only on packs that have long term effects. I purchased 5x merc packs. The Elite pack Then the W.A.R. packs were announced, they are just useless disposable/consumable items, so instead I went back and purchased The Veteran pack, just to round out the BPOs that I'd get. I've also had boosters plugged in constantly since closed beta. (as these have long term benefits as SP). The point is I have shunned the tactical packs, etc. as they i just burn through them. Or they are a mishmash of random items that I'm not going to use (weapon pack where I get ALL the base weapons, but I won't use them all, or I'm skilled into higher weapons already). I'm obviously not shy about spending money on this game, but I want PERMANENT changes to my account / character (BPO, permanent item, long term SP/LP gains, etc). If I had to guess, this would be most of their customer base thats actually buying stuff. I know I would not buy packs for items that have no long term effect. Most of the packs are just silly and an attempt to get those are are pretty wealthy to just splurge for the heck of it. For us normal customers, BPOs and boosters are currently the only thing we are interested in. CCP needs to focus more on customization of suits then these buy these suits because they have a nice design, only then will buying different skins be cool. I guess your doing alright with these new packs or else you wouldn't keep doing it? or maybe not... GÇá Havok Core - Closed Beta Corp - Accepting Applications Here GÇá CEO // [email protected]
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 34	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:46:00 - [10] - Quote For a matter of discussion, how much would players pay for "BPO" suit/vehicle skins? GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó

Eskel Bondfree DUST University Ivy League 157	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:48:00 - [11] - Quote So, when will we finally see an optional subscription offer for Dust similar to that of Planetside 2? One that has a decent price point preferably. With Merc, Veteran, and Elite Packs gone, there is no worthwile offer for investing money into Dust anymore. Raw Aur packs are simply overpriced, and even with a Merc Pack, booster prices are too high when not on special offer. Listen up CCP, stop trying to make me pay 15 bucks a month for a 50% XP boost. You should know very well that a one month subscription for Eve Online costs 3 bucks less! And that does not require me to pay another 15 bucks just to get a boost for the other half of my XP as well (not to mention all the Aur gear you want to sell me on top of that).
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 190	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:53:00 - [12] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: For a matter of discussion, how much would players pay for "BPO" suit/vehicle skins? I might go $8 or $10 a skin. Jadu, are you figuring this would be an additional slot in the fitting menu up by your dropsuit or vehicle? [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 34	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:53:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah something like that. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 165	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:07:00 - [14] - Quote They need to quickly bring in all the racial suits and bring back the vanity colours from closed beta like the firebrand and the black/gold or pure white caldari suit ect they were pretty nice and be great to see them again. CCP are making it clear they want BPOs out but the playerbase will soon make it clear they want BPOs IN. I came up with a system of implementing BPOs into the drone infestation mode. People have BPOs for one reason, its a free/cheap suit for when they're broke from using proto in PC or FW but since they don't consume anything they 'break' the economy of new eden as its a supply/demand thing So, Make bpos work in same way as EVE. the stations we live in have factory facilities. To get materials to build the suits/weapons/lavs you go run missions in drone infestation where you're given drone salvage (as well as SP and isk) which can be used to build items from BPOs. Make it so the build time works out at 20 suits per day, 30 weapons per day 5 vehicles per day per BPO. introduce Manufacturing Skill which gives +1 manufacturing job per level (total 5) and Manufacturing Efficiency which increases prodution 10% per level (total 50%) meaning with both at level 5 you could produce 150 dropsuits per day for 'free' when market opens up then obviously we can buy/sell drone materials and/or the suits to new players who want cheap suits in order for us to fund our proto gear for PC/FW. also allow trading of BPOs so it adds another aspect of the game for new players that want to help increase their income. they can aim to buy a bpo and start producing items to help them earn money ingame or to get started
Egypt Musk A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 69	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:51:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: The DUST 514 Veteran Pack and the DUST 514 Elite Pack will be retiring from the PlayStation Store on November 5, 2013, after the Uprising 1.6 release goes live. They will remain available for purchase on the PlayStation Store and the Sony Entertainment Network online store in all regions until then. After that, these packs will be gone for good. This is your last chance to secure the coveted permanent Dren and Covenant gear, so stock up now! Hey Logibro, Can you have the number of sales for the game in a dollar value say over a 6 or 9 month period graphed posted. and posted. Starting a month the 3 months before removal of the merc packs until 3 months after of the removal of the veteran and elite packs.. So we can tell you I told we told you so , and show you how your company greed concerning this game is killing its revenue. Secondly when will my monthly Subscription to eve come will boosters for dust because that is they only way your getting another dime out of me before PC 2.0 comes out. Your lucky I have a bond with the guys in my corp because your business practices and value you off a dollar are skewed and obtuse and enough to drive most of your player base away. T Rex of Adetide-Anon's Official pirate radio talk show host & Realtor
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 941	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:53:00 - [16] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: They need to quickly bring in all the racial suits and bring back the vanity colours from closed beta like the firebrand and the black/gold or pure white caldari suit ect they were pretty nice and be great to see them again. CCP are making it clear they want BPOs out but the playerbase will soon make it clear they want BPOs IN. I came up with a system of implementing BPOs into the drone infestation mode. People have BPOs for one reason, its a free/cheap suit for when they're broke from using proto in PC or FW but since they don't consume anything they 'break' the economy of new eden as its a supply/demand thing So, Make bpos work in same way as EVE. the stations we live in have factory facilities. To get materials to build the suits/weapons/lavs you go run missions in drone infestation where you're given drone salvage (as well as SP and isk) which can be used to build items from BPOs. Make it so the build time works out at 20 suits per day, 30 weapons per day 5 vehicles per day per BPO. introduce Manufacturing Skill which gives +1 manufacturing job per level (total 5) and Manufacturing Efficiency which increases prodution 10% per level (total 50%) meaning with both at level 5 you could produce 150 dropsuits per day for 'free' when market opens up then obviously we can buy/sell drone materials and/or the suits to new players who want cheap suits in order for us to fund our proto gear for PC/FW. also allow trading of BPOs so it adds another aspect of the game for new players that want to help increase their income. they can aim to buy a bpo and start producing items to help them earn money ingame or to get started Adding needless Eve type mechanics to dust? I'd rather not. Some sort of very cheap suit or easy to generate over time would most likely be acceptable by most. GÇá Havok Core - Closed Beta Corp - Accepting Applications Here GÇá CEO // [email protected]
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2013.10.31 19:44:00 - [17] - Quote Brush Master wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: They need to quickly bring in all the racial suits and bring back the vanity colours from closed beta like the firebrand and the black/gold or pure white caldari suit ect they were pretty nice and be great to see them again. CCP are making it clear they want BPOs out but the playerbase will soon make it clear they want BPOs IN. I came up with a system of implementing BPOs into the drone infestation mode. People have BPOs for one reason, its a free/cheap suit for when they're broke from using proto in PC or FW but since they don't consume anything they 'break' the economy of new eden as its a supply/demand thing So, Make bpos work in same way as EVE. the stations we live in have factory facilities. To get materials to build the suits/weapons/lavs you go run missions in drone infestation where you're given drone salvage (as well as SP and isk) which can be used to build items from BPOs. Make it so the build time works out at 20 suits per day, 30 weapons per day 5 vehicles per day per BPO. introduce Manufacturing Skill which gives +1 manufacturing job per level (total 5) and Manufacturing Efficiency which increases prodution 10% per level (total 50%) meaning with both at level 5 you could produce 150 dropsuits per day for 'free' when market opens up then obviously we can buy/sell drone materials and/or the suits to new players who want cheap suits in order for us to fund our proto gear for PC/FW. also allow trading of BPOs so it adds another aspect of the game for new players that want to help increase their income. they can aim to buy a bpo and start producing items to help them earn money ingame or to get started Adding needless Eve type mechanics to dust? I'd rather not. Some sort of very cheap suit or easy to generate over time would most likely be acceptable by most. Corps worked, FW is gonna be more like EVE side, PC is based around alliances and corps holding turf in EVE. Like it or not DUST is a part of EVE, the markets will merge and so we'll have to adapt to using things that need building. would you rather build the items yourself or have some eve pilot overpricing them for their gain and not ours? personally i'd rather put 2months SP into a couple industrial skills so i can get a stack of suits for running PvE for a couple hours. not only that but when markets open we're gonna be able to buy boosters with ISK, any extra income just helps mercs along the way
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1207	Posted - 2013.10.31 20:15:00 - [18] - Quote Dammit, I was just about to buy one of these packs but told myself I'd hold off until the end of november cause I can't just go and drop $100 on this game. Even though that pack is definitely the best pack out there, I guess I'll just have to wait for something else to buy something now. Or you know, I could just stop putting money into this game. I'm at a point where boosters really aren't necessary anymore...the only thing I could use is some aurum but that comes cheap for the stuff that I buy with it (colored dropsuits, vehicles/weapons I can't use) List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos! (Insert future link here)
xp3ll3d dust The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 94	Posted - 2013.10.31 20:19:00 - [19] - Quote Brush Master wrote: I guess your doing alright with these new packs or else you wouldn't keep doing it? or maybe not... The Elite pack is brilliant value. The same cost as buying 200,000 AUR, but you get 200,000 AUR AND a whole heap of suit BPOs & a 30 day passive+active booster. Veteran pack is ok, same as buying 100,000AUR but less permanent items.
Khan Hun Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2013.10.31 20:22:00 - [20] - Quote I think it makes sense to leave building things to eve players to start with. If we're honest dust needs a lot of things adding and tweaking and a skill point sync for something that offers no fun gameplay isn't one of them. If anything making BPOs fit into 'slots' is a decent idea though, but rather than put skills and so on in tie it into the faction warfare and attempting to make dust players feel more like they 'belong' in eve. Solution suggestion: 1) BPOs fit into 'manufacturing slots' in a station. These produce 5 items per day each for a standard run BPO, stations have 3 per player as standard. Only usable by the 'active' character on an account. BPOs can have different runs, e.g. a proto-BPO could be made that produces a single suit per day, I'd say thats desirable for real -ú-ú yet balanced. 2 ) Dust players can set a 'home station' that exists in eve. This is where they log in and return after battles. If this causes issues with everyone one place at once, use eves corp-office system where prices for popular systems increases to balance demand and charge a small rent for certain systems. If your a Caldari FW corp, set home as they same base the eve side forces are using. Instant meaningful interaction. 3) Different stations offer different benefits, the first being faction warfare stations when A) you have a certain rep and B) when the system is upgraded by eve players as part of their system upgrade part of FW. First upgrade, increase the number of items produced by BPOs and/or slots a player of a set standing has access to. This allows BPOs to be meaningful because: 1) They can be novelty items with a cool graphic that you can keep using and collect as they'll never expire. 2) They can be of a higher standard because their use is closely limited to X per day depending on the BPO run value, so the gear can be 'better' making them more desirable for real -ú-ú 3) They still offer the safe knowledge that you will always have a few free fits to turn to. It solves the issue with the economy because: 1) They are a fun novelty but that cannot (as now) form the vast majority of a players fitting all the time, people will be forced to use the market more.

Croned B o u n d l e s s. 487	Posted - 2013.10.31 22:07:00 - [21] - Quote Why not sell officer weapons in limited quantities for large amounts of AUR? Or maybe a Salvage Booster that would not only increase your salvage amount but also the likelihood of obtaining Officer Weapons? I'll give you 5 million ISK if you find the word gullible hidden in my post.
Dirks Macker Enlightened Infantries 99	Posted - 2013.10.31 22:17:00 - [22] - Quote Justicar Karnellia wrote: Yeah I didn't really like the new tactical packs or whatever, but of course, with blueprints now gone I'm wondering what will make them worthwhile - perhaps they'll have some combination active/passive/FW boosters included or something. It's true that I always bough them because of the combined booster/aurum/blueprint value... If I were to bet, they will introduce some sort of subscription plan in the place of the expensive packs. CCP wants to reduce the effect of BPO's on the consumption/destruction cycle, but they also need money to run the game.
negative49er Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 282	Posted - 2013.10.31 22:33:00 - [23] - Quote Why does listening to this make it sound soo sad I don't always use the Shotgun, but when I do I use the CRG-3
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 134	Posted - 2013.10.31 22:36:00 - [24] - Quote well i just hope you guys are smart and replace it with more permanent gear.... we alll know thats why no one likes the new packs. you must include something in disposable, i think most players care more aabout cosmetics so its something to include without a pay to win benefit. FIGHT FOR A CAUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TO YOU.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2912	Posted - 2013.10.31 22:40:00 - [25] - Quote Will you fix the stats on the items before or after you retire them?
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 627	Posted - 2013.10.31 23:01:00 - [26] - Quote I'm going to miss these packs, and BPO's in general. I probably would have eventually bought the Elite pack, but I don't think I can justify the cost at the moment. I'm curious to see what your replacements are, if any. There is a lot of good feedback on potential future options, and for my 2 cents I think that if you could find a way to make player configurable packs, that would go a long way towards holding onto sales, even without BPO's. For instance, If I could buy a $20 pack with my choice of: 1 ADV light weapon (50 copies) requiring no prerequisites, w/ maybe 1 enhanced attribute (more dmg than regular ADV weapons, etc....), and unique color scheme 1 ADV sidearm weapon (same as above) 1 ADV dropsuit (50 copies) w/ no prerequisites and unique color scheme 1 ADV EQ item (50 copies) w/ no prerequisites and some enhanced attributes 1 ADV high slot item (50 copies) w/ no prerequisites 1 ADV low slot item (50 copies) w/ no prerequisites 20k AUR (more would be nice) 30 day active or passive booster Man, it would be so easy to drop $20. Just provide a menu of options for folks and you'd get all sorts of combos..... For example as a player you could go all scout if you were a specialized scout, or mix and match if you had a flexible playstyle, etc., etc.... Maybe more expensive packs could add vehicles, or use PRO gear (requiring ADV skill level), or provide more copies... etc....
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 627	Posted - 2013.10.31 23:03:00 - [27] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Will you fix the stats on the items before or after you retire them? I forgot to say that this was another reason I didn't buy the Elite pack earlier..... Militia gear is so cheap, why have BPO of standard item if it has militia stats....
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 320	Posted - 2013.10.31 23:05:00 - [28] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: People have BPOs for one reason, its a free/cheap suit for when they're broke from using proto in PC or FW well, you're HALF right. I have them so I can save money to play with (nice) vehicles. They mean that I get to run a vehicle 1 out of 2 games, rather than 1 out of 3 or 4 games.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 320	Posted - 2013.10.31 23:12:00 - [29] - Quote This all seems to be an effort to morph DUST from a "free to play" game, into a sneaky 'voluntary' pay-money-every-month game. Only problem is.. one of the main reasons I play DUST, is that it is FREE TO PLAY. (even though i have at this point bought multiple Veteran packs for me and family members. Veteran packs... you know.. those things you think arent needed, CCP?) If it were to turn effectivefly into a "pay every month (for consumables)" game... I would instead stop playing dust, and play one of those explicit "pay every month" games. At this point, there are multiple choices I could go with, but I'm spending all my gametime on DUST. BECAUSE IT'S FREE. And I thought that it was worth my time(and money) to invest in stuff that was going to be seemingly permenant, because like EVE, it's going to be around for a long time, in basically the same format. But if that's going to change... then I'll be rather inclined to change my gaming habits, too. And also change my description of DUST to my friends, from a postive one, to a considerably less positive one.
Awesome Pantaloons Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 139	Posted - 2013.11.01 00:50:00 - [30] - Quote I'm glad I bought one of every pack. lol Those BPOs may be very valuable when the player market opens. Then the iskies shall roll in.

Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 172	Posted - 2013.11.01 02:11:00 - [31] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: I'm glad I bought one of every pack. lol Those BPOs may be very valuable when the player market opens. Then the iskies shall roll in. if they let you trade them. one of the ideas was to let folk keep the bpos permanently but restrict trading/sale of them
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 796	Posted - 2013.11.01 02:45:00 - [32] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Are they being replaced with anything substantial? Or is it going to be packs on par with the "Tactical" pack? If there will no longer be a pack that gives 2000 Aurum per dollar and active/passive boosters, it's safe to say I'll never be spending any more money on this game. somebody get my man a tissue. real tough talk from gamers. gotta love it.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 824	Posted - 2013.11.01 05:01:00 - [33] - Quote Bye! DUSTBoard - Mercenary sheets DUSTSearch - DUST Forum mirror

Chimichanga66605 Vader's Taco Shack 60	Posted - 2013.11.01 17:03:00 - [34] - Quote Kiiiiiiittttteeeeennn....only 2 weeks until the pay-day that was FINALLY gonna bring me my Vet pack & an Elite for my girlfriend... Oh well, guess this game is back to "Free Mode" for us. Welcome to New Eden. -Chimi out, o7
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 474	Posted - 2013.11.01 20:47:00 - [35] - Quote i tried a W.A.R suit to see what they were like. i placed it in my fittings and it was red. opened up the fit and 2-3 fittings on it i had to replace because i didn't have the skills... skills not listed in the suit requirements which i think is out of order. if they are going to go this way with packs they need to as a minimum : 1) lists all the items on it. 2) list the skills required to use all the items on it. otherwise i will never buy these items. simple as that. when i bought all my merc packs i knew 100% i could use every item in that pack. all i know for sure about W.A.R gear is with the way this game works on fittings, most if not all of the suits available i am going to have to change fittings on them to use them negating the point of having them Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Nulldust Codex Troopers 5	Posted - 2013.11.01 20:59:00 - [36] - Quote This is how I think the economy should and would work: All standard items cost much more than they cost now and relative to the ISK payout at the end of a public match. If you lose more than two clones in standard tier fitting in a match you would make an ISK deficit. Militia items would still be relatively cheap but gimped. Standard is the go-to tier. This would make ISK and clone more meaningful and valuable. Two currencies, ISK and AUR, are enough and they would be exchangeable. SP should be replaced by faction loyalty for the ability to access higher tier items. Planetary conquest is a great feature of the game, it's the game's high stake ISK venture, but its interface at the moment is terrible. I don't see what should already be in-game: status update and interface to invite solo mercenaries to participate. The above are my speculations, although if it works out as I mentioned, BPOs would be very valuable. At the moment, the gameplay isn't too good but I understand CCP is busy making the shooting mechanics right and I commend CCP for putting in the architectural foundation of single shard universe/DUST-EVE connectivity.
JP Acuna RoyalSquad514 29	Posted - 2013.11.01 23:38:00 - [37] - Quote Oh, this means i'll never have the Elite Pack. Good news for my budged tho, i won't spend any more money into my dear Dust.
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion 117	Posted - 2013.11.02 00:08:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: The DUST 514 Veteran Pack and the DUST 514 Elite Pack will be retiring from the PlayStation Store on November 5, 2013, after the Uprising 1.6 release goes live. They will remain available for purchase on the PlayStation Store and the Sony Entertainment Network online store in all regions until then. After that, these packs will be gone for good. This is your last chance to secure the coveted permanent Dren and Covenant gear, so stock up now! Heavily annoyed CCP did not announce this all month long when playstation was having a sale!!!! Next time get your heads out your asses and announce things in a timely manner.
sira draco REAPERS REPUBLIC 6	Posted - 2013.11.02 11:19:00 - [39] - Quote question, if you buy the elite pack, can you use the items with two different characters, like say you have two characters on the same psn id, can you use the blueprints with both characters?, if not can you assign the pack to a certain character?
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 102	Posted - 2013.11.02 11:24:00 - [40] - Quote sira draco wrote: question, if you buy the elite pack, can you use the items with two different characters, like say you have two characters on the same psn id, can you use the blueprints with both characters?, if not can you assign the pack to a certain character? If you quit out of dust and buy the pack in the psn store, you can choose which items go to which character once you log in again Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator

rAVEn Benu Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.02 16:07:00 - [41] - Quote Is disrespectful towards your playerbase to make such an announcement with less than a week. After buying the Collectors Editions this month budget is gone. You should have given us at least 1 month and a half notice.
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 196	Posted - 2013.11.02 19:45:00 - [42] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: I'm going to miss these packs, and BPO's in general. I probably would have eventually bought the Elite pack, but I don't think I can justify the cost at the moment. I'm curious to see what your replacements are, if any. There is a lot of good feedback on potential future options, and for my 2 cents I think that if you could find a way to make player configurable packs, that would go a long way towards holding onto sales, even without BPO's. For instance, If I could buy a $20 pack with my choice of: 1 ADV light weapon (50 copies) requiring no prerequisites, w/ maybe 1 enhanced attribute (more dmg than regular ADV weapons, etc....), and unique color scheme 1 ADV sidearm weapon (same as above) 1 ADV dropsuit (50 copies) w/ no prerequisites and unique color scheme 1 ADV EQ item (50 copies) w/ no prerequisites and some enhanced attributes 1 ADV high slot item (50 copies) w/ no prerequisites 1 ADV low slot item (50 copies) w/ no prerequisites 20k AUR (more would be nice) 30 day active or passive booster Man, it would be so easy to drop $20. Just provide a menu of options for folks and you'd get all sorts of combos..... For example as a player you could go all scout if you were a specialized scout, or mix and match if you had a flexible playstyle, etc., etc.... Maybe more expensive packs could add vehicles, or use PRO gear (requiring ADV skill level), or provide more copies... etc.... QFT, this is probably the best idea for monetizing Dust that I've ever heard.
R1M Rider RIMS Marines 0	Posted - 2013.11.04 11:06:00 - [43] - Quote Heyyyy no fair i went to buy the packs today...the veteran pack is already off the dust store. Also off the psn store. They said available until the 5th....its only the 4th.... cmon give me my veteran pack... ive tied up 40quid now in my psn account.
Taz-666 The Rainbow Effect 16	Posted - 2013.11.04 11:46:00 - [44] - Quote I have also tried to purchase the Veteran pack and am unable to find it on the PSN store or through the in-game market. CCP please help and provide a method of purchasing this pack before the deadline.
Shadow heat Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 136	Posted - 2013.11.04 12:34:00 - [45] - Quote I don't understand this, so only consumable BPO's from now on ? Who is the genius in CCP that thinks this is a good idea ? You may get few try-hard people buying this stuff, but the majority of people will just find another game that is not Pay To Win. You decided to take the greedy approach with a game that is AVERAGE at best, with not COMPETITIVE value. If you want to kill the game just pull the plug from the servers, and save whatever little reputation you have left.
RAMB0 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.11.04 16:14:00 - [46] - Quote Fitting requirements for some Dren weapons like the pistol are militia! Is that going to get fixed? Please respond asap so can buy it before it goes away!
Daigon VII The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 13	Posted - 2013.11.05 06:57:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: The DUST 514 Veteran Pack and the DUST 514 Elite Pack will be retiring from the PlayStation Store on November 5, 2013, after the Uprising 1.6 release goes live. They will remain available for purchase on the PlayStation Store and the Sony Entertainment Network online store in all regions until then. After that, these packs will be gone for good. This is your last chance to secure the coveted permanent Dren and Covenant gear, so stock up now! This was posted on the 31st of October so they didn't even give us enough time to do anything but to say goodbye to these packs. It sucks they only gave us a 5 day warning about these packs. I was about buy an Elite pack but my paycheck is not till the 10th. So I guess I won't be buying it because they will be unavailable, and I probably won't be spending ANY money on this game in the future because without blueprints or anything worthy of spending money on I will just have to rely on isk.
Daigon VII The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 13	Posted - 2013.11.05 07:27:00 - [48] - Quote Sorry but this makes me a little red in the face. 5 days warning to pull the only reasonable things to purchase in the game. With no blueprints in the future I don't see a reason to spend money on this game. I also agree with a lot of the community that the new packs are pretty worthless spanning a wide array of weapons some OK some completely useless and some unusable because of skill requirements. I play a certain class and role and a 99.99 pack that only has 10% of the items I need with 90% of them being useless or hanging out in my assets for eternity. There are other games outside of this. Why do something like this?
Daigon VII The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 13	Posted - 2013.11.05 08:27:00 - [49] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: For a matter of discussion, how much would players pay for "BPO" suit/vehicle skins? I think the best pack was the elite pack. You get 4 suits, 4 different guns, and a permanent LAV for $99 and assorted stuff. I'm not sure I would pay anything above what you pay for an elite pack for something similar.
phugger Defenders of the Helghast Dream 0	Posted - 2013.11.05 14:58:00 - [50] - Quote I also had a huge disappointment when they announced the withdrawal of these packs, I also feel they are the only value for money products offered in the marketplace and the W.A.R packs are ridiculously poor value and are way too widespread in necessary skills for anyone to be able to make full use of them and the included amount of Aurum is pathetic whereas the merc, vet & elite packs offered items that anybody can use without huge expenditure of SP and made buying Aurum worthwhile as you got something a little more permanent with it. My son had planned on buying me 1 of the packs for Christmas but when they announced the withdrawal he managed to scrape together enough for the veterans pack and paid it into my PSN account only for me to find it was missing from the Store and marketplace. The only Aurum purchases I am ever likely to make now are the occasional 3 day active booster when there is a triple SP event so buying -ú40 worth of Aurum is pointless and I would never buy it at that price anyway so I now have money in my PSN account and nothing to spend it on. I cannot say how utterly disappointed and frustrated I am by this scr3w up.

Crazy Cat Lady Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 18	Posted - 2013.11.05 22:46:00 - [51] - Quote The Veteran pack was removed from the PSN store for some regions earlier than 5th Nov deadline. Response from CCP to a support ticket lodged about it: "Thank you for contacting the DUST 514 Customer Support! Please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. Apparently the Veteran Pack was removed ahead of schedule in some regions by SONY. We can certainly understand this can be a bit of an inconvenience and we can only apologise again for not being able to provide you with a suitable solution at the moment. Please keep an eye on our Forum or DEV Blog for any updates on this issue" We are still awaiting further information about what happens to those of us who wanted to buy it during the advertised "availability period" but were unable to.
ImMortal SoLDieR X Ancient Exiles 42	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:39:00 - [52] - Quote Not even gonna start like I normally do. We were told the elite paks were being removed today... arrived home with a 100 dollar PSN card no elite paks in the PS store. I guess ccp really doesn't want to sell em.....
ImMortal SoLDieR X Ancient Exiles 42	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:40:00 - [53] - Quote got robbed & told they would be available today. wankers!!!
Daigon VII The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 13	Posted - 2013.11.06 07:10:00 - [54] - Quote I think what I'm most upset about is that this game would continue but, from where I'm standing it looks like they are letting it go. I don't think it was a good choice to hide the fact you are removing even the few blue prints available and suddenly spring it on us. The Honey Moon is over. You are just an ugly fat girl I got drunk with in Cabo. Hope you had fun in our short tryst.
despoi1er Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 1	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:22:00 - [55] - Quote Still waiting for the "further news" the CS ticket told me to look out for on the forums & Dev blogs. I still expect CCP to make the vet pack available to us Europeans who were told we could buy it only to find it withdrawn early.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 341	Posted - 2013.11.19 09:26:00 - [56] - Quote Total spent on DUST 514 to date - -ú85 (used on various packs) for AUR + BPOs. I joined in open beta and was absolutely shocked to see purchasable DLC for as much as -ú84.99. When do you ever spend money on a beta?! Madness! They should be showing gratitude that anyone did so, not bending us over and shafting us. Anyway, without BPOs the packs are extortionate to say the least. No way am I buying AURUM anymore. CCP, you can say what you want about the reasoning, the fact is you just lost a ton of potential income! Future purchase limit = -ú0.00 Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó Meta Gaming V > Proficiency I


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