inb4 they remove forge splash damage the minute I'm specced into Forge Prof III lol

To be fair, you guys started that tactic. We hated the roofs, but we adapted.

Roof top control=Key to victory

I love my Kamehameha gun, but forging from towers does need to stop.

Honestly, it could be as simple as putting a tall container wall around the edges of the tall buildings that are only accessible by dropship. They already do this on some maps. It isn't an elegant solution, but it definitely is effective.

Forgers will always head for high ground to be more effective. But those roofs should have multiple access points so that the FG user can be countered by infantry.

Pretty much due to lolmapdesign.

It's the lamest trick in PC tbh.

It was started by keq Durring the LOI vs ROFL war (i think) that's when we saw it first hand and it gave us a loss due to it. Unfortunately it's like the core flaylock... If you don't use em.... The enemy is gunna **** you with it.

It really does suck. I mean think about it :

An anti tank weapon can solo hold an obj... Lol

It's been like this since day one and it's the biggest reason that PC Is BS that most people can't be bothered with. The match is always decided in the first two minutes of the game if one of the teams knows the cheap tactic for the map. If both teams know it comes down to whose dropship Ivan delivers first, which is entirely random. The rest of the match is a pointless mopping up exercise that can't really be called a game.

Were we the first?

not always. You guys cloned us tonight even though I got to the tower, destroyed broadway and the rest of the roof crew, and it was never contested (just a few ob drops). Still got cloned with 2 ticks left :/

CCP ninja changed forges and made this problem.

When firing a Forge gun previously before all this mess was vastly different.

Firing a forge gun previously there was always some variation where the charge would go in the large reticule a forge gun has.

This allowed for the forge gun to be used to hit large targets with good accuracy... A.K.A tanks... and dropships that didn't make themself's tiny.

However sniping infantry with the charge never going to the same spot in the reticule... was much like rolling the dice... it took a bit of skill and as much luck to sniper infantry with a forge gun.

Made it also hard to reliably take out a good DS pilot... solo

This is about CCP's choices to ninja buff the forge gun and create this problem... With absolutely no information EVER released about it in any Dev blog and patch release...


For most of the players in DUST.. it leaves us wondering WTF?!!?!?! why would they do that....

And all we can come up with is they felt pitty on the heavies for what they have done to them... and buffed their long range gun. Like a l33t ninja.

They didn't contest you? They sent 3 ships after me. Lost a Gastun's.

While it's true that the variation did fix this problem, I don't like that fix. I believe shots should be as accurate as as the player is capable of aiming them, and not randomly diverted into a different direction to punish a good player.

Hitting folks with OHK skillshots should be a thing. It's what makes the forge different than a swarm launcher. But it doesn't need the splash. You aren't going to get up on top of a tower and try to skillshot everyone to death, it's just too time consuming and difficult. You're gonna go for splash kills.

So remove the splash, keep the range, keep the accuracy. Problem solved.

I thought it was because lol lobby shooter/[insert plethora of other subdreddit excuses here] (Yay no downvotes on the forums!)

While it's true that the variation did fix this problem, I don't like that fix. I believe shots should be as accurate as as the player is capable of aiming them, and not randomly diverted into a different direction to punish a good player.

Hitting folks with OHK skillshots should be a thing. It's what makes the forge different than a swarm launcher. But it doesn't need the splash. You aren't going to get up on top of a tower and try to skillshot everyone to death, it's just too time consuming and difficult. You're gonna go for splash kills.

So remove the splash, keep the range, keep the accuracy. Problem solved.

Dust is not a lobby shooter.

From a realistic standpoint, hell yes there should be deviation.

From a gameplay standpoint I think its bad. You can be caught in a bad situation, aim perfectly to kill your assailant, and still be punished with a rogue shot going wherever it pleases.

That's bad gameplay if you have to charge your shot for so long.

where's your sidearm foo