To be fair, you guys started that tactic. We hated the roofs, but we adapted.

Roof top control=Key to victory

I love my Kamehameha gun, but forging from towers does need to stop.

Honestly, it could be as simple as putting a tall container wall around the edges of the tall buildings that are only accessible by dropship. They already do this on some maps. It isn't an elegant solution, but it definitely is effective.

Forgers will always head for high ground to be more effective. But those roofs should have multiple access points so that the FG user can be countered by infantry.

Pretty much due to lolmapdesign.

It's the lamest trick in PC tbh.

It was started by keq Durring the LOI vs ROFL war (i think) that's when we saw it first hand and it gave us a loss due to it. Unfortunately it's like the core flaylock... If you don't use em.... The enemy is gunna **** you with it.

It really does suck. I mean think about it :

An anti tank weapon can solo hold an obj... Lol

It's been like this since day one and it's the biggest reason that PC Is BS that most people can't be bothered with. The match is always decided in the first two minutes of the game if one of the teams knows the cheap tactic for the map. If both teams know it comes down to whose dropship Ivan delivers first, which is entirely random. The rest of the match is a pointless mopping up exercise that can't really be called a game.

They didn't contest you? They sent 3 ships after me. Lost a Gastun's.

While it's true that the variation did fix this problem, I don't like that fix. I believe shots should be as accurate as as the player is capable of aiming them, and not randomly diverted into a different direction to punish a good player.

Hitting folks with OHK skillshots should be a thing. It's what makes the forge different than a swarm launcher. But it doesn't need the splash. You aren't going to get up on top of a tower and try to skillshot everyone to death, it's just too time consuming and difficult. You're gonna go for splash kills.

So remove the splash, keep the range, keep the accuracy. Problem solved.

Dust is not a lobby shooter.

From a realistic standpoint, hell yes there should be deviation.

From a gameplay standpoint I think its bad. You can be caught in a bad situation, aim perfectly to kill your assailant, and still be punished with a rogue shot going wherever it pleases.

That's bad gameplay if you have to charge your shot for so long.

At my side.

And let's be serious, if an AR gets the drop on you, your only chance of survival is a OHK. If you were in a lighter suit that could AVOID gunfire, then yes.. you might be able to ninja your way out of his sights and SMG his ass to death, but in a fat suit... nah, gota pray on that one shot.

I love how those abusing these tactics are beginning to say they need to be removed. It does give me hope for the future of this game. Those in power are finally willing to let go of that power so that the game can become better.

Please continue on. I support removing this awful mechanic. Where is the FPS in this game!?

oh but sir you forgot one last thing...


fix the lag as well.

Didn't you say something along the lines of not being a jackass about Subdreddit on the forums way back when? You're such a scrub.

Having 1 forge gunner defending that 1 point instead of wasting a squad defending it is a clever way of utilizing the forge gun and having that squad (which could of been defending that one point the FG is) attacking another point is a clever way to win PC's by flooding another point with more than 1 squad. it's not a cheap tactic, it's a clever tactic

The tower camping in PC has gotten to pretty epidemic levels. I much preferred the glory days of forge gunning on the ground.

What we have I think is a perfect storm of map design issues, the ridiculously short range of most of the weapons in Dust, and aspects of the forge that could stand to be tweaked in terms of the splash.

The fences on the Orbital cannon map aren't high enough and the gaps between plates are too large to be truly effective. I would actually be fine with the tall towers having a kill zone like some of the tall towers on the new sockets (power exhaust or what have you). Probably one of the biggest issues is the exposed consoles and how one tower position can cover the skies and multiple objectives. There should be an element of vertical play to the game, but it has to be balanced.