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MadMatt Four20
Ancient Exiles
4
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:30:00 -
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It was DOM with the new map also, so I had plenty of places to hide. BTW it was not samurai samurai it was me and their was another tanker but he was blown up at the beginning of the game. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1219
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:33:00 -
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MadMatt Four20 wrote:It was DOM with the new map also, so I had plenty of places to hide. BTW it was not samurai samurai it was me and their was another tanker but he was blown up at the beginning of the game. No, it wasn't DOM, it was FW, and it wasn't you. it was definitely "samurai samurai". There was no other tanker, it was only 1 HAV the entire match. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3637
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:37:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:MadMatt Four20 wrote:It was DOM with the new map also, so I had plenty of places to hide. BTW it was not samurai samurai it was me and their was another tanker but he was blown up at the beginning of the game. No, it wasn't DOM, it was FW, and it wasn't you. it was definitely "samurai samurai". There was no other tanker, it was only 1 HAV the entire match. I hate that guy. He is a dirty Minnie FWer and a crazy good tanker, one of the few I cannot beat in a straight up fight. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1159
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:39:00 -
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Was just in a match with a good assault player.
This guy went 35/0 in a proto Gallente assault despite being under fire from frontline players the entire match, including myself.
I went 9/13. 10 of those deaths were the assault player 3 were from a Proto MinLogi with MLT shotgun popping me as I was trying to take out the assault.
Several times, after a shots from my standard mass driver we managed only to push the assault back. He retreated to an objective held by his team and fully repped and was back pwning face of our team within 45 seconds.
Anybody who thinks assaults are underpowered or cannot handle my awesome mass driver sucks at assaulting period!
CCP, nerfing my mass driver as you are intending will completely and utterly tip the balance of AR/MD all the way toward favoring assault rifles.
On a side note, if you can't pop a maddy with a DAU-2/A that is prof 3 and has damage mods you're bad and should feel bad. |
MadMatt Four20
Ancient Exiles
4
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:40:00 -
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Thats funny cuzz i just went 35/0 against Ultramarine Corp in a DOM on the new map, with 1 forge and atleast 3 swarms on the other team. Ask your corp mates they will tell u. |
Ninjanomyx
TeamPlayers EoN.
353
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:41:00 -
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quote=Master JaraiyaMossellia Delt wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:
Why are you such a scrub bro, AV vs HAV is so over powered its unfunny, I need about 10 hands to count the times iv solo'd tanks.
Tell ya what, if forgeguns cant point downwards, thats when you can *****.
Nice reference to Tower FGers. I'm not one of these. Nerf FG because Towers are OP, yea, that's the answer. When you see at least one every dom and you see 2 - 3 in EVERY PC match, yeah, because guess what, the game isnt being balanced around you being stupid enough not to use a height advantage, but Planetary Conquest where forgegunner sit on towers and thats all they do. Good for scared ass FGers! No need to nerf it because some tryhard likes to take advantage of I'll conceived Map elements. perfect reason to ,because its gamebreaking dumbass. Everyone in your corp this stupid? I'd hope not. Derp!
You must be slow dude!
Get a FG, and go try playing AV with it from ground level. Where any anti-infantry weapon in this game can kill you before you can charge it or switch weapons.
Then tell me this bull ****.
Oh let me guess, you, like everyone else who spouts this nonsense does it "all the time"[/quote]
Polish Hammer is LOLing @ your Post from his Basement. Get Good Scrub |
Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles
51
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:44:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Ninjanomyx wrote:I'm a terrible Tanker & I'm filthy rich. Tanks are OP unstoppable killing machines & Gods of DUST 514. Nerf Tanks ASAP or I quit. Swarms need to rise into the sky, then homing should kick in, possibly with Nikita style TV Guidance. If an AFG whiffs my Tank the AoE Splash should flip me topside-down like a Koopa Troopa so AV Grenades may pelt my belly. I can't stand the HAV QQ....we are reasonably priced. If you can't go 40 Matches without dying then go kill yourself now. Why do you Scrubs ever even die at all??? Is it for Charity??? CCP cut the **** out & buff AV, you have been warned. Can't tell if you're trolling or serious. LOL +1 Ninja is an excellent tanker, if AV gets nerfed, all the better for him. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1220
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:45:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Was just in a match with a good assault player. This guy went 35/0 in a proto Gallente assault despite being under fire from frontline players the entire match, including myself. I went 9/13. 10 of those deaths were the assault player 3 were from a Proto MinLogi with MLT shotgun popping me as I was trying to take out the assault. Several times, after a shots from my standard mass driver we managed only to push the assault back. He retreated to an objective held by his team and fully repped and was back pwning face of our team within 45 seconds. Anybody who thinks assaults are underpowered or cannot handle my awesome mass driver sucks at assaulting period! CCP, nerfing my mass driver as you are intending will completely and utterly tip the balance of AR/MD all the way toward favoring assault rifles. On a side note, if you can't pop a maddy with a DAU-2/A that is prof 3 and has damage mods you're bad and should feel bad. Except I don't camp on towers like the "top skilled players" this game has to offer. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1220
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:47:00 -
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Ninjanomyx wrote:Polish Hammer is LOLing @ your Post from his Basement. Get Good Scrub Says the the guy from the MLT n00b stomping proto party corp.
...but I'm the scrub. |
MadMatt Four20
Ancient Exiles
4
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:48:00 -
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So u dont play PC's I take it |
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SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
326
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:49:00 -
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Threads like this are so entertaining *munches on popcorn* anybody want some? |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1220
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:51:00 -
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MadMatt Four20 wrote:So u dont play PC's I take it I have been hired by corps to do PC battles, what does this have to do with anything?
If you are going to say "they are balancing for PC" my response would be "then give us team deployment in FW", because I would love to pick the players I fight with. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1115
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:39:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote: His name, as stated before was
"samurai samurai"
Yes, if you read the thread, you would see I have all core skills maxed, run comp. plates, FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods.
ROFL that guy hes not even a good tanker, hes just risk adverse and methodical, the only reason he has a high KDR is because he used to spend 90% of his time in the redline rail sniping and getting 3 or 4 kills a match. Tanks can shine and so can Assault dropships, its just a matter of the conditions, if a few mates had decided "**** this tanker" they could have WTFBBQ'd his arse. So risk avoidance, and methodical doesn't make a good tanker? I'm confused. Sounds like you were getting splash damage, which tells me you have terrible aim. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1115
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:40:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Was just in a match with a good tank driver.
This guy went 35/0 in a Madrugar Blaster HAV despite being under fire from 4 - 5 AV players the entire match, including myself.
I went 9/13. 10 of those deaths were the HAV driver 3 were from a Proto MinLogi with MLT shotgun popping me as I was trying to take out the HAV.
Several times, after 2 - 3 volleys of swarms and a couple direct hits from my Adv. Assault FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods, we managed only to push the tank back. He retreated to an objective held by his team and fully repped and was back pwning face of our team within 45 seconds.
Anybody who thinks HAVs are underpowered or cannot handle AV sucks at driving HAVs period!
This is not a QQ thread or a buff AV thread. I'm simply calling how it is! Tanks are in absolutely no way underpowered.
CCP, nerfing AV as you are intending will completely and utterly tip the balance of Vehicle/AV all the way toward favoring vehicles. Replace the word Maddie with Gunnlogi, and none of this would hold true. Probably a proto tanker as well We don't have PRO tanks. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1115
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:41:00 -
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Terram Nenokal wrote:I think the AV nerf needs to be deployed -with- the vehicle changes, not before. I think the AV nerf should be deployed 2 weeks before the vehicle nerf, so AV can finally get a taste of what it's been like for vehicles for 5 builds straight.
Two weeks would hardly be fair, but it would be a good start. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1115
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:42:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Xender17 wrote:The problem is that AV is unorganized when they choose to switch to AV. The amount of vehicles on the field is limited. Since AV isn't limited they are free to use as much as they want and there team will pay the consequences of not being able to defend itself. That's fine, but if a whole squad has to switch to AV for one HAV, then the other teams infantry will roll right over the team. If a whole squad has to switch to AV, they need to get a lot better and get better than MLT swarms. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1115
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Posted - 2013.10.26 06:43:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:chase rowland wrote: bring us proof. i still dont believe you. it just doesnt seem possible
I don't have to prove it! Good HAV drivers know it can and does happen all the time for them. Bad HAV drivers come to the forums and cry because they cant do it! In a match where AV sucks (like your match) i'll go 20+ and 0 with missile tanks on my weak ass Caldari tank. In a match with one or two decent AV I'll go 10/0 In a match with one or two GOOD AV I'll go 5/1 (Down a million isk) In a match where I get the turret bug, the ground bug, or the game crash bug, I'll go 0/1 before ever seeing an enemy and stop playing for a week. Me and my friend have ADV AV (mine forge his swarms) and ADV AV grenades. We hop in a LAV fly up behind ANY tank in the game and pop it. Stop being so bad at AV. Oh I'm so **** poor and your so beast mode! GTFO. Talkin bugs, I can't count on my fingers and toes the number of time I was killed by the sidearm FG bug! He's a tanker and he's figured out how to destroy them with AV, yet you can't figure it out. Why do you suppose that is? |
Name York
0uter.Heaven
40
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Posted - 2013.10.26 07:08:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:chase rowland wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Was just in a match with a good tank driver.
This guy went 35/0 in a Madrugar Blaster HAV despite being under fire from 4 - 5 AV players the entire match, including myself.
I went 9/13. 10 of those deaths were the HAV driver 3 were from a Proto MinLogi with MLT shotgun popping me as I was trying to take out the HAV.
Several times, after 2 - 3 volleys of swarms and a couple direct hits from my Adv. Assault FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods, we managed only to push the tank back. He retreated to an objective held by his team and fully repped and was back pwning face of our team within 45 seconds.
Anybody who thinks HAVs are underpowered or cannot handle AV sucks at driving HAVs period!
This is not a QQ thread or a buff AV thread. I'm simply calling how it is! Tanks are in absolutely no way underpowered.
CCP, nerfing AV as you are intending will completely and utterly tip the balance of Vehicle/AV all the way toward favoring vehicles. call in a tank. its hard to operate. just make 1 tank and drive it around just to see how hard it is with the AV at you. that tanker was probably the best in the game. the only decent tankers are the ones with 10 mill sp into tanking skills. the apparent 4-5 guys swarming him were probably starter fit users. try tanking. its a real challenge. and i hardly believe this even happened. you probably made this up as soon as you found out about the AV change. pics or it didnt happen. It definitely happened. The HAV driver's name was "samurai samurai" Just because some people suck at driving HAVs doesn't mean AV needs to be beat to death with the nerf bat! Sorry to rain on your parade, but I solo'd him with proto swarms like 30-40 mins ago in an amarr FW. He had a good game. Cool. This is not the normal happenings for most tankers.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1524
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Posted - 2013.10.26 12:01:00 -
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Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So for 1 game a tank goes 35/0 and now its not UP
lolno
Go play a PC match against proto AV and not against scrubs and watch how they get whacked with ease
This pub match, you were using adv AV, what about the others? were they using basic/milita? were any of you working together? etc
Ive gone 30/0 with lolmissiles because of the enemy using milita AV and not working together
Nice one sided example you produced OP i highly doubt that you went 30/0 using just swarms unless it was during the murder taxi era, also there is a tanker in my corp that can rack up kills with out dying and yes it is in PC matches and as well as pub matches yes he has been blown up as well but i have never heard him ***** and moan about AV
Missile turret you dumbass |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1351
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Posted - 2013.10.26 13:11:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Was just in a match with a good tank driver.
Several times, after 2 - 3 volleys of swarms and a couple direct hits from my Adv. Assault FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods, we managed only to push the tank back.
Nope.
Even if the swarms were MLT, if you hit him twice from the FG, 3 volleys from swarms would have popped him. Unless you were only attacking him from the front, and allowing him to escape after he activated his repper.
In which case, the tank was not being effective, you were not really trying to kill it.
If you died trying to pop a tank ten times, and you were not alone, you are awful, full stop.
Two guys in an LAV, with AV grenades and AV weapons will pop any tank provided they can get within range. So unless you just keep driving up under his cannon, it shouldn't take ten tries.
For lying and failing at an easy job, I would give you a -1 if I could. |
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The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1351
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Posted - 2013.10.26 13:16:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:...but I'm the scrub.
Since you can't drop a Maddy with a prof 3 FG, yes, you are in fact a scrub. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1228
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:21:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:...but I'm the scrub. Since you can't drop a Maddy with a prof 3 FG, yes, you are in fact a scrub. That means so much coming from yet another n00bstomper!
Seriously you guys have absolutely no respect from anyone other that your fellow n00b protostompers.
The funny thing is you all think you are soooooooo ******* good at this game.
lmfao you're a joke and your days are numbered. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1274
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:12:00 -
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Let me guess: You were standing right in front of the HAV with no cover in sight with something lower than a Adv. AV weapon, and none of you shot at him/her at the same time? I've taken on 8 AV weapons at the same time, doing exactly this, so I blame you. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
382
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:19:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Was just in a match with a good tank driver.
Several times, after 2 - 3 volleys of swarms and a couple direct hits from my Adv. Assault FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods, we managed only to push the tank back. Nope. Even if the swarms were MLT, if you hit him twice from the FG, 3 volleys from swarms would have popped him. Unless you were only attacking him from the front, and allowing him to escape after he activated his repper. In which case, the tank was not being effective, you were not really trying to kill it. If you died trying to pop a tank ten times, and you were not alone, you are awful, full stop. Two guys in an LAV, with AV grenades and AV weapons will pop any tank provided they can get within range. So unless you just keep driving up under his cannon, it shouldn't take ten tries. For lying and failing at an easy job, I would give you a -1 if I could. Lol You are an idiot
Dying multiple times happens almost all the time using swarms, and we don't have the range to take it to the redline, and the swarms would just crash into a wall.
No three volleys from MLT swarms would not pop a good tank. They don't even have 3 in a clip
LAVs. Dude people try that all the time and I either shoot them out of the car, or blow up the car first, and if a tanker is dumb enough to let people get in AV nade range, then he deserves to POP
For lying and clearly not using anything above basic swarms, i would give you a -1 if I could |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1230
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:20:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Let me guess: You were standing right in front of the HAV with no cover in sight with something lower than a Adv. AV weapon, and none of you shot at him/her at the same time? I've taken on 8 AV weapons at the same time, doing exactly this, so I blame you. No. You are wrong.
Thanks for assuming 'm a ******* idiot though. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
382
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:23:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Let me guess: You were standing right in front of the HAV with no cover in sight with something lower than a Adv. AV weapon, and none of you shot at him/her at the same time? I've taken on 8 AV weapons at the same time, doing exactly this, so I blame you. No. You are wrong. Thanks for assuming 'm a ******* idiot though. Just stop Jaraiya, as tankers clearly believe that all AV is god and will continue to say so despite evidence to the contrary.
Just go on to more important things, like teaching Naruto how not to lolfail while in sage mode.
AND I'M STILL WAITING ON THAT BOOK SEQUEL! |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1352
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote: Lol You are an idiot
Dying multiple times happens almost all the time using swarms, and we don't have the range to take it to the redline, and the swarms would just crash into a wall.
No three volleys from MLT swarms would not pop a good tank
LAVs. Dude people try that all the time and I either shoot them out of the car, or blow up the car first, and if a tanker is dumb enough to let people get in AV nade range, then he deserves to POP
For lying and clearly not using anything above basic swarms, i would give you a -1 if I could
It was not just three volleys of swarms though, was it. The OP clearly said he hit it with his DAU twice as well. Direct hits he says, to make the point clear, with prof 3 and two Complex damage mods.
SO 1524 base damage, with 9% from prof, and 18 percent from the damage mods. Even rounding way down so you can't get mad, that is just over 1900 damage per shot.
MLT swarms, no damage mods, do 1700 per volley to armor.
3800 from the forge 5100 from the swarms
8900 damage, so unless they both had to reload in the middle, the reps wouldn't even have come on before the tank went pop.
Thanks for trying, but you are bad at math, bad at dust, and horrible at debating.
EDIT:
I had forgotten that MLT swarms only have two volleys. Oh well, replace MLT with STD, because I doubt the ultramarine corp was rolling around in starter fits. |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1352
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:36:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote: That means so much coming from yet another n00bstomper!
Seriously you guys have absolutely no respect from anyone other that your fellow n00b stomping protobears.
The funny thing is you all think you are soooooooo ******* good at this game.
lmfao you're a joke and your days are numbered.
I have a heavy alt with a prof 5 forge.
If I came up against myself in my own tank, the tank would not last more than a minute, and that includes the time it would take me to go to a supply and change fits.
AV guys act like it is hard to take out a tank with a good forge, but it is not. It is quite simple, even when they are hiding in the redline.
I respect good forgers. Alldin Kan still scares me and his PS3 is dead. Whale, Cubs, KaoticKrusader, all have my respect. Because when they are in game, any tank is at serious risk of getting popped faster than they can do anything substantial about it.
You obviously are not a good FG user, and as such, you get no respect. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1230
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:42:00 -
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Look dude, I'm simply just telling what happened, to iterate that HAVs aren't as crippled as some say.
I don't know if he was repping or whatever, I was just shooting at him. If there's some way to tell when a HAV hits their reppers, I'm all ears, as far as I know there isn't.
I guess that makes me a scrubadub scrub. |
The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1353
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Posted - 2013.10.26 15:48:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Look dude, I'm simply just telling what happened, to iterate that HAVs aren't as crippled as some say. I don't know if he was repping or whatever, I was just shooting at him. If there's some way to tell when a HAV hits their reppers, I'm all ears, as far as I know there isn't. I guess that makes me a scrubadub scrub.
Either you are not remembering it correctly, or maybe you didn't get direct hits with the forge.
Or maybe the way you are describing the sequence of events is where the issue lies.
What generally happens, when a HAV gets hit by swarms, is they start to activate modules. First to get turned on is the repper, because of the long cycle time before it actually starts to rep, then the hardeners.
Now, during the five seconds that it takes the repper to start working, there is more than enough time for a swarmer and a forge to deal enough damage to pop the tank.
Heck, three CBR 7 volleys and you can finish the tank off with a core locus.
All of that requires timing. If you can get the two people to start their attack at the same time, the tank stands ZERO chance, unless there is cover very close, and he has backup to protect him while he reps and then through the cooldown.
So I don't know why that tank didn't go pop, but it wasn't because the tank was too strong. |
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