If you cant kill a basic tank with basic mods with multiple AV including adv AV and proto swarms then you are just straight bad because its never been easier

So you're saying that if bad HAVers never cried on the forums, CCP would still be overhauling the vehicles. LOL

So, It's just a coincidence that CCP never mentioned vehicle overhaul until thread after thread made by bad HAVers started cluttering up the Forums.

You're honesty trying to get me to believe that it wasn't crying that prompted CCP to "take a look at the FG" even after CCP said themselves that they thought the FG was in a good place as is?

C'mon man I know you're smarter than that.

I'm not mad.

do you have a name to go with that claim? only a few tankers remain and even fewer could do that.

there are a few things that you need to realize with tanks before claiming that tanks don't need a buff. that was one match of 6-8 depending on payout. having a tank survive one round isn't impressive, or at least it shouldn't be. tanks don't work on the same timeline as infantry a surviving a match is not a victory it's a stepping stone, back when I was a full time tanker I'd name my tank(I only had 2 at a time) after it'd survived 10 matches because at that point it'd paid for itself and delivered a 20ish % profit.

the tanker in your story (yes story) had to have maxxed out skills, and you saying any tanker without maxxed out skills sucks at driving. do you have a maxxed out fit? even one? all the cores to 5, plus the gun, the armor, the shields, biotics, the reps, I'm forgetting something, but whatever... anyway point is expecting all tankers that hope to turn a profit to have maxxed skills is a little silly.

those 4-5 av guys musta sucked pretty hard core not to hit hit while his reps were cycleing...

Was just in a match with a good tank driver.

This guy went 35/0 in a Madrugar Blaster HAV despite being under fire from 4 - 5 AV players the entire match, including myself.

I went 9/13. 10 of those deaths were the HAV driver 3 were from a Proto MinLogi with MLT shotgun popping me as I was trying to take out the HAV.

Several times, after 2 - 3 volleys of swarms and a couple direct hits from my Adv. Assault FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods, we managed only to push the tank back. He retreated to an objective held by his team and fully repped and was back pwning face of our team within 45 seconds.

Anybody who thinks HAVs are underpowered or cannot handle AV sucks at driving HAVs period!

This is not a QQ thread or a buff AV thread. I'm simply calling how it is! Tanks are in absolutely no way underpowered.

CCP, nerfing AV as you are intending will completely and utterly tip the balance of Vehicle/AV all the way toward favoring vehicles.

You act as if "crying" has ever been the direct result of any form of nerf. Whether people want something changed or not, the change ultimately comes down to CCP. They are the ones balancing the changes, developing the code, and compiling the data. What is said here is merely a reflection of the underlying mechanics of the game. It's raw data that provokes changes, not crying; crying merely directs the attention to that particular set of data. If you have faith in CCP, then you have faith that they are crunching and compiling the numbers in a way that is beneficial to the game. If you don't have faith in CCP, then this is just a QQ troll thread because you don't like it when people have an opinion differing from your own.

Yea, tell that to the HAV driver in my corp named ROCKO THE HELLHOUND, who took 2 full clips from my Isukone AFG with 2 Comp. Damage Mods before retreating to repair!

Basically you said "my uncoordinated team was stomped by a coordinated team that covered the retreat of the tank."
"I also cannot provide any evidence to the frequency of shots nor number of actual hits to the tank, and I will gladly claim shots that hit objects around the tank to be hits just to claim it was their armor."

Bring us a video of this... Most AV users who bring in video proof are shown that they were hallucinating their own accuracy. Not to mention exaggerating the overall potency of allied AV.


The second flaw is that they can't prove whoever thy were fighting was the top of the top. Assault users can go 33/0 and AV users equate it to suit management. When they see a million ISK tank do the same thing, suddenly it's overpowered. They feel entitled to be able to kill any vehicle in front of them just because the gear is titled anti vehicle...

I assume his tank was armor, if so you really need swarms since it does more damage to armor than FG

So you need to learn how to AV

If it was a gunlogi i will call BS

Your title also ignorantly lumps dropship pilots into that whole statement. Sure, some of the best Assault dropship pilots in the game can make it work, but aside from going against blind AV or dumb luck, logistics dropships are dead before they deploy. There is no magic fit, no special tactics, it's a floating coffin in any serious match. I for one eagerly await these new vehicle changes, as well as hopefully a respec to go full into vehicles like I was before Uprising and the last respec scared me away from them.

I chose my skills wisely though, so if it doesn't come then I'm fine, though I'd like to be a vehicle specialist and nothing else. 18 million SP focused on vehicles would be more than enough for me to get down and dirty.




You're preaching to the choir, it took them over a year to fix the PG value on logistics dropships because dropships pilots were too much of a minority. I'm just saying, I think they call it a ten year plan for a reason

His name, as stated before was

"samurai samurai"

Yes, if you read the thread, you would see I have all core skills maxed, run comp. plates, FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods.

ROFL that guy hes not even a good tanker, hes just risk adverse and methodical, the only reason he has a high KDR is because he used to spend 90% of his time in the redline rail sniping and getting 3 or 4 kills a match.

Tanks can shine and so can Assault dropships, its just a matter of the conditions, if a few mates had decided "**** this tanker" they could have WTFBBQ'd his arse.

Yea, tell that to the HAV driver in my corp named ROCKO THE HELLHOUND, who took 2 full clips from my Isukone AFG with 2 Comp. Damage Mods before retreating to repair!

Sitting in the redline sniping till you have a 30 KDR certainly doesn't make you a good tanker, the tanker you mention is a kitten compared to many i've faced.

Anyway Im not gunna argue with you, your either trolling or you're trash, either one is beneath me.

Obv OP cant read

You are talking about your corp mate

We already moved on from the BS story that you made up or maybe it is real and you are all that bad at AV

Call it BS all you want, doesn't change the fact it happened.

I don't have swarms, so what should I do if a HAV is rotfl stomping my team? Nothing?

Hitting him with my FG as my only AV even though He's an Armor tank makes me a bad player? Yea **** off.

Ishukone Assault > All the things

Was just in a match with a good tank driver.

This guy went 35/0 in a Madrugar Blaster HAV despite being under fire from 4 - 5 AV players the entire match, including myself.

I went 9/13. 10 of those deaths were the HAV driver 3 were from a Proto MinLogi with MLT shotgun popping me as I was trying to take out the HAV.

Several times, after 2 - 3 volleys of swarms and a couple direct hits from my Adv. Assault FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods, we managed only to push the tank back. He retreated to an objective held by his team and fully repped and was back pwning face of our team within 45 seconds.

Anybody who thinks HAVs are underpowered or cannot handle AV sucks at driving HAVs period!

This is not a QQ thread or a buff AV thread. I'm simply calling how it is! Tanks are in absolutely no way underpowered.

CCP, nerfing AV as you are intending will completely and utterly tip the balance of Vehicle/AV all the way toward favoring vehicles.

The problem is that AV is unorganized when they choose to switch to AV.
The amount of vehicles on the field is limited. Since AV isn't limited they are free to use as much as they want and there team will pay the consequences of not being able to defend itself.

I don't have to prove it!

Good HAV drivers know it can and does happen all the time for them.

Bad HAV drivers come to the forums and cry because they cant do it!

In a match where AV sucks (like your match) i'll go 20+ and 0 with missile tanks on my weak ass Caldari tank.

In a match with one or two decent AV I'll go 10/0

In a match with one or two GOOD AV I'll go 5/1 (Down a million isk)

In a match where I get the turret bug, the ground bug, or the game crash bug, I'll go 0/1 before ever seeing an enemy and stop playing for a week.

Me and my friend have ADV AV (mine forge his swarms) and ADV AV grenades. We hop in a LAV fly up behind ANY tank in the game and pop it.

Stop being so bad at AV.

His name, as stated before was

"samurai samurai"

Yes, if you read the thread, you would see I have all core skills maxed, run comp. plates, FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods.

I'm a terrible Tanker & I'm filthy rich. Tanks are OP unstoppable killing machines & Gods of DUST 514. Nerf Tanks ASAP or I quit. Swarms need to rise into the sky, then homing should kick in, possibly with Nikita style TV Guidance. If an AFG whiffs my Tank the AoE Splash should flip me topside-down like a Koopa Troopa so AV Grenades may pelt my belly. I can't stand the HAV QQ....we are reasonably priced. If you can't go 40 Matches without dying then go kill yourself now. Why do you Scrubs ever even die at all??? Is it for Charity??? CCP cut the **** out & buff AV, you have been warned.

Oh I'm so **** poor and your so beast mode!

GTFO.

Talkin bugs, I can't count on my fingers and toes the number of time I was killed by the sidearm FG bug!