Please look at the future balance objectively. Whilst AV is being reduced in effectiveness, HAVs are also becoming generally less durable.

Certainly, tanks are effective in their current form. Much of the QQ from both sides comes from people trying to solo them with militia swarms and people expecting them to be unkillable godmode. The high price of them naturally makes it frustrating to lose them - but they are remarkably good stomping tools for the well-organised.

Look, I can't sit here and say I've never solo-ed a tank.

Thing is, I used a proto or advanced swarm launch with complex dmg mods and ex-11 packed AV nades. Sometimes if I time it just right, I can do it in one life. Thing is I will die a few times, come back and usually get the tank if he hung around long enough or hit into a wall or something while backing up.

The AV nades were powerful, but unless I combined a swarms and AV I could never solo a tank.

Edit: Not to mention, my suits usually cost between 40-90 isk.

My best match in a tank was 26/1 and i only have 1Mil SP invested into vehicle skills. Maybe it is not the game that is killing the tanks it is players are not playing tanks properly...

My best match in a tank was 26/1 and i only have 1Mil SP invested into vehicle skills. Maybe it is not the game that is killing the tanks it is players are not playing tanks properly...

Was just in a match with a good tank driver.

This guy went 35/0 in a Madrugar Blaster HAV despite being under fire from 4 - 5 AV players the entire match, including myself.

I went 9/13. 10 of those deaths were the HAV driver 3 were from a Proto MinLogi with MLT shotgun popping me as I was trying to take out the HAV.

Several times, after 2 - 3 volleys of swarms and a couple direct hits from my Adv. Assault FG with Prof. 3 and 2 Comp. Damage mods, we managed only to push the tank back. He retreated to an objective held by his team and fully repped and was back pwning face of our team within 45 seconds.

Anybody who thinks HAVs are underpowered or cannot handle AV sucks at driving HAVs period!

This is not a QQ thread or a buff AV thread. I'm simply calling how it is! Tanks are in absolutely no way underpowered.

CCP, nerfing AV as you are intending will completely and utterly tip the balance of Vehicle/AV all the way toward favoring vehicles.

Look, I can't sit here and say I've never solo-ed a tank.

Thing is, I used a proto or advanced swarm launch with complex dmg mods and ex-11 packed AV nades. Sometimes if I time it just right, I can do it in one life. Thing is I will die a few times, come back and usually get the tank if he hung around long enough or hit into a wall or something while backing up.

The AV nades were powerful, but unless I combined a swarms and AV I could never solo a tank.

Edit: Not to mention, my suits usually cost between 40-90 isk.

2 mill SP for a proto swarm, versus the 5 mill Sp my dedicated tanker has, and JUST NOW is it not dying to mlt swarms. That should say something to you lolswarmers and oFkForgers

call in a tank. its hard to operate. just make 1 tank and drive it around just to see how hard it is with the AV at you. that tanker was probably the best in the game. the only decent tankers are the ones with 10 mill sp into tanking skills. the apparent 4-5 guys swarming him were probably starter fit users.

try tanking. its a real challenge. and i hardly believe this even happened. you probably made this up as soon as you found out about the AV change. pics or it didnt happen.

I have more than 5 mil Sp invested when you count Heavy Dropsuit, FG with Pro 3, Comp. Damage Mods, Comp Armor plates, All dropsuit core skills.

I'm looking at about 9 mil. So what's your point?

So for 1 game a tank goes 35/0 and now its not UP

lolno

Go play a PC match against proto AV and not against scrubs and watch how they get whacked with ease

This pub match, you were using adv AV, what about the others? were they using basic/milita? were any of you working together? etc

Ive gone 30/0 with lolmissiles because of the enemy using milita AV and not working together

Nice one sided example you produced OP

It definitely happened. The HAV driver's name was "samurai samurai"

Just because some people suck at driving HAVs doesn't mean AV needs to be beat to death with the nerf bat!

the suit is versitile. you can use it for other things. the tank isnt. pro AV isnt even 1 mill SP to unlock. you could put a AR or HMG on that suit. we cant. the skills you invest in can branch out into other things where tanking requires you spend 10 mill sp into tanks so you dont get insta-popped by pro AV.

you dont need plates or your dropsuit skills or your core skills to be the best AVer in the game. all you need is a proto forge with a adv heavy suit with dam mods. easy to get.

NO, there were people in my squad working with me using Proto Swarms.

Stop making excuses for bad Vehicle drivers.

If it's so damn easy, go try it.

Not from the safety of a 200m tall tower like a scrub either.

bring us proof. i still dont believe you. it just doesnt seem possible

So if it's just player skill and there is no AV to Vehicle imbalance, why is CCP doing a massive AV to Vehicle rebalance?

Because crybaby scrubs.

i have. its what im skilled into for AV. i tank and use AV. i know what its like on both sides. im not a closed-minded fool who want extinction of everything that kills your playstyle.

I don't have to prove it!

Good HAV drivers know it can and does happen all the time for them.

Bad HAV drivers come to the forums and cry because they cant do it!

NO, there were people in my squad working with me using Proto Swarms.

Stop making excuses for bad Vehicle drivers.

So compelling, you clearly have faith in CCP.



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