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soulreaper73
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Posted - 2013.10.21 14:51:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Niccolo deLuce wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Niccolo deLuce wrote:Post it to the front page, go for it. Somebody will just post the historical subscription counts in response. Eve has grown consistently for 10 years says CCP. Dust however has no subscriptions because it's f2p, so you're pretty much stuck with looking at players online, which has unfortunately been going consistently down. I love Dust, don't get me wrong. But at some point you have to step back and realize that you're playing with the same couple hundred players every time you play. If, by consistently going down you mean "Ever since a ton of media outlets and reviewers got on to try the game out" - we've had the same consistent number of players as we did in Beta. By consistently down I mean consistently down. Tell yourself whatever you want, then look at the actual statistics for the past year. Or don't, I don't really care, but just how many thousands of those players exactly were "media outlets and reviewers"? Also bear in mind that was right around the time the Caldari Prime event occurred and more players would have been active for that event. I've been playing since June 2012 and I can say that the player count hasn't gone anywhere since then and that can be confirmed both by the CPM and CCP.
So basically you are saying we have about the same player count as we had back when the game was in a closed beta. In other words, the current player count when the game is open access to all is the same as when it was closed to but a few of us. That is not a healthy sign at all. The player count should always be higher when a game becomes open than when it is closed. Don't forget, EVE is a pc game. Dust is a console game not to mention on a console that some folks will completely abandon once ps4 comes out. Comparing this game to Eve is like comparing apples to oranges.
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soulreaper73
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:15:00 -
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Yep, all them commercials and game stop billboards are doing us great justice.
Not about to argue with this kinda logic, I'm sure you can gather the reasons why this game isn't getting as many players as Battlefield 4 with their rampant purchasing of celebrity facebook statuses - it's not hard.
Then again, you do seem like one of those types that is dead-set convinced that the game is going to fail no matter what anyone says so it's pointless to argue with you so I'll let you argue with yourself after this post.
Aeon,
You missed the point entirely. I was merely pointing out that your logic was flawed about having the same numbers as the closed beta. You can not compare a PC game to a PS3 console game. They are two different animals. Our numbers should be higher than a closed beta. As far as the lack of commercials and other promotions, whose fault is that? CCP could have advertised this game better and that is on them. I do not wish to see the game fail. If I did, I would not still be here. |
soulreaper73
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Posted - 2013.10.25 11:33:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Taken from the first page of the Eve Online: The Second Decade hard-cover book.
Barnett:
"CCP talk of expansion packs and add-ons but if they can't even introduce many features that were promised from release do we think we will ever see such a thing as a first-person option in the future, despite the fact the developers once said in a CSM that this was on the agenda?"
Elan Dochin:
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."
Ten years later we're hearing the same exact things from the Dust 514 guys. While I do appreciate what you are saying and I certainly do hope Dust sticks around for the long haul, as I've invested quite a bit of time and money into this game, it is hubris to expect that just because CCP was able to pull off what it has with Eve that a similar development model will work with Dust. Eve is a niche title with little competition, a big fish in a small pond if you will. Dust is a guppy in an ocean full of sharks. Like I said, I hope we are looking back at this game 10 years from now and reminiscing about how much it has changed and improved, I just don't think it is a given because they did it with Eve. Wasn't aware there were any FPS games with persistent territory, insane customization (fitting) and an actual drive behind the social aspect and not just Team A vs Team B. Planetside 2 comes close but there's not much in the way of the social aspect, you can't backstab one another or the like.
Most folks that play FPS do not care about persistent territory. Case in point: At the time of this post there are 352 dust players online and 23,000 plus BF3 players online and that is just for the PS3. Dust has a wonderful concept. That is what brought it to most to our attention. I do not wish to see the game fail or die, but I am a realist. The game is just not very good at the moment and has become boring. Unless you are in a PC battle, the pub games are a snooze fest which makes them no different than Cod or BF or any other shooter out there.
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soulreaper73
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:14:00 -
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2308 dust players on. bf has downtime also, look at how fast their numbers come back after downtime compared to dust. quit fooling yourself. We are what we are. A niche fan base. There is not many of us that play this game. If you believe otherwise, then you are being delusional. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:2308 dust players on. bf has downtime also, look at how fast their numbers come back after downtime compared to dust. quit fooling yourself. We are what we are. A niche fan base. There is not many of us that play this game. If you believe otherwise, then you are being delusional. /me snorts, trying not to laugh Oh, right... PS3... Thought we were imagining that player-owned servers on the PC had downtimes or something... Continue on.
Keep drinking the kool-aid fanboy. You obviously seem to believe in your mind that this game is every bit as popular as other games when it is not.
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soulreaper73
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:25:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:2308 dust players on. bf has downtime also, look at how fast their numbers come back after downtime compared to dust. quit fooling yourself. We are what we are. A niche fan base. There is not many of us that play this game. If you believe otherwise, then you are being delusional. I'm not saying there are as many as other established games. I'm just laughing at how you pulled a number 3 minutes after downtime for a niche game. I feel that Dust will carry on, and it will grow, and it will shrink, but over time, I see how it might have the same potential that could make it part of the EVE universe. But judging by your pessimistic attitude and word usage to isolate Dust 514 into the circular filing bin in your mind, then I have only one thing to say to you: Battlefield is that way ------------------------------------>
Listen to yourself for a moment. I like Dust, yet because I am a realist that we are a niche community and fan base. There you are trying to tell me to go play Battlefield and never come back. That is counterproductive to growing our community and game player base. 
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