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hgghyujh
expert intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:28:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:you have faction modules as armor to amarr/gal and shield to caldari/mini but then you make the repair tool mini. doesn't make sense to me. if anything the active scanner should be swapped from gal to mini and vice versa
personally i would like to see 2 versions of each item planned for the lp store with varying stats spread out over the factions. much like in eve where caldari and mini have very different versions of missile launchers etc etc
gal scout gets bonus to scanners and mim was the first logi |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1542
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:16:00 -
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well...looks like I'm fighting for thr caldari now... :) |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
140
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Posted - 2013.10.24 08:37:00 -
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CCP Fox, I am a proud defender of the Empress and her interests. I waddle into battle with all the fever my heavy dropsuit can muster. However, according to the LP store list, I would be shooting myself in the face with a breach forge gun if I don't fight for Minmatar or Caldari. Please tell me why the only race that currently makes a heavy suit is completely unable to provide a heavy weapon to complement its exclusive suit. I guess what this boils down to is what is the ETA on heavy lasers since I'm reasonably sure that Amarr will be the one providing it. |
Draco Cerberus
Hell's Gate Inc
429
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Posted - 2013.10.24 12:49:00 -
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Market first, LP store second. There would still be no reason for me to do FW if there were no way to capitalize on the gains. I like the planned changes to FW including FF and standings gains as well as changes to OB support. |
XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
468
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Posted - 2013.10.24 13:37:00 -
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CCP you forget my plasma cannon. Also without player market Many people will migrate from factional warfare because of the need to actually have isk t reap the rewards.
YOU ALSO FORGOT MY PLASMA CANNON |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1155
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Posted - 2013.10.25 01:27:00 -
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Good changes CCP, no specialist heavy weapons suck though. Also instead of just getting Neo suits in the LP store could we get faction suits with faction colours on them instead, something like Federation logistics GK.0 or something snazzier named with a custom paint job to allow us to show our colours in the warbarge.
Edit - what about the State protectorate and FDU suits in the market place will they be in the LP store? |
Skybladev2
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
53
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Posted - 2013.10.26 18:54:00 -
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What about pirate LP stores? Whom to kill to buy there? |
fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
89
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Posted - 2013.10.28 02:01:00 -
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love the idea!!! really hope this happens soon.
+1 with a few adjustments.
SUGGESTIONS: (PLEASE GIVE NOTE) I love the idea of specialist weapons and loyalty points. BUT not with two things mentioned here.
1. Do not completely replace ISK rewards if you are required both LP and ISK to obtain specialist weapons.
a. If players must spend two types of currency that can only be obtained through separate types of game play. If i'm spending ISK on gear to play FW without compensation then i will have to go back to pub matches to make the difference.
b. We all know that proto gears costs an arm and a leg, and if FW actually has a meaningful objective, imagine the ISK value per match. Even with infinite LP you can't buy anything in the specialist store if you don't have the ISK.
SUMMARY: Point is that not having any compensation for the weapons lost, you can only get so far without having to stop and go back to pub. I would like to be able to push for long periods of time in FW without having to constantly spend billions of ISK, go back to pub get more and come back.
SIDE NOTE: On the other hand this could manage the pushes of FW activity so you could initiate changes more smoothly, limit the amount of proto used (but really only for poorer players[like me ]), and make it more stable for the tracking standings etc.
SOLUTION: Make it a lower percentage of ISK then you would normally receive, simply adjusting the balance between ISK and LP could solve those problems.
2. DO NOT make LP exclusive to just your faction store.
Just like real world economy, these stores should have values placed for EVERY form of LP. The true value being that of which corporation your fighting for, but lets say you go over to this other corp store, you should still be able to buy their equipment but with the value of your LP adjusted to how close those factions are.
SYSTEM: lets say you belong to FACTION ONE or FAC1 with LP Valued at 1 at a FAC2 store = .5 enemy FAC3 store = worthless ally FAC4 = .75
FOR EXAMPLE: G1 has exactly 100 LP, G1 likes to fight for FAC1 G1 buys an item from FAC1 store for 50 LP G1 now has 50LP well GI saw a FAC2 variant of the same item valued at the same price. but now because he is shopping at a (FAC2) store G's LP is only valued at 25LP (or FAC2 item variant is100LP)
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR EDITS WELCOME |
trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
109
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Posted - 2013.10.28 09:57:00 -
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KaTaLy5t-87 wrote:
There is nothing in the LP store that you have listed that I would want so there goes another incentive to do Faction Contracts. If I wanted Aurum gear I would buy it with Aurum. Giving us the exact same gear that you can buy with Aurum seems like an extremely lazy way of balancing the game. It's like saying "oh look, there's a hole in the wall. Instead of repairing the hole I'm going to make another hole on the opposite side of the room to balance the look of the first hole out". That doesn't sound logical now does it? So why do a half-baked job and give us items that are already easily available? If you are going to have an LP store why not make it like the Eve one, where you can actually get some decent stuff that has unique stats or attributes when compared to other gear?
Didn't read the rest, after this I facepalmed too hard to see anything else in the post.
You know how to save up money for running ISK risking matches? YOU RUN ISK PAYING MATCHES IN CHEAP GEAR. If you wanna waste ***loads of ISK in FW, you go and save up ISK by running free gear.
Basically they are making FW something that you won't be able to do all the time, thus populating public matches again. And when you've earned enough ISK to show your loyalty to your faction, you can do so and earn the ability to get exclusive items you can only get from FW.
So, if you're worried you'll loose precious proto suits while earning money to play FW, don't run proto suits in pub matches. Simple as that. Run cheap or free gear and earn your ISK the hard way. |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
854
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Posted - 2013.10.29 01:29:00 -
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So, what happens if I want to use an Amarr suit with a non-Amarr weapon? Currently, I use full Amarr, but when the new weapons get added I might switch to one of those. I guess I can get any items I need off the market. Also, I hope that all of the PRO tier weapons get Specialist options. It's a way to let players get a small boost without breaking the game. They can fit a gun a tier higher than they could before or upgrade some of their other equipment with the spare PG/CPU.
This all seems great, but I'd also love for some special commodities that couldn't be obtained anywhere else. For instance, we have SP boosters that can be bought with AUR, so why not have Active SP Cap Boosters that can be purchased with LP? The active cap is really low on SP compared to what it used to be (190k down from 350k a week), but instead of raising it, you could encourage players to grind ISK in pubs once their cap has been reached to invest in FW to get LP, raising their SP cap by a small amount. This could further encourage a cycle of play.
So, maybe using one would raise that week's bonus SP cap from 190k to 250k. Not game breaking, but enough so that players that have a lot of time to invest can get a little more bonus SP, at a higher time investment due to the need to first obtain LP.
I also think that each faction should have specialty modules in the shop. Amarr can have more effective Reactive Plates. Gallente can have more effective Ferroscale Plates. Caldari can have Regenerative Shield Extenders that combine Shield Extenders with Shield Rechargers. Minmatar can have Cardiac Catalyzers that combine Kinetic Catalyzers with Cardiac Regulators. Items that compound two effects into one slot would be slightly more effective than using one of each of the component modules, since they are harder to obtain. |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2517
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:54:00 -
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Wait, wait wait, hold on a minute?
You're telling me Nanite Injectors aren't a Gallente Based invention?
I knew nanohives were Caldari based tech but Nanites as well? (even though Gallente and Caldari tech is extremely similar besides shielding and missiles)
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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Jackof All-Trades
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
210
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Posted - 2013.11.02 05:46:00 -
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Weapons should be instead be called: Federal Marine Duvolle Assault Rifle Federal Marine CreoDron Shotgun Federal Marine Allotek Plasma Cannon Republic Command Boundless Combat Rifle Republic Command Freedom Mass Driver Imperial Guard Viziam Laser Rifle Imperial Guard Scrambler Rifle State Peacekeepers Kaalakiota Rail Rifle State Peacekeepers Wiyrkomi Swarm Launcher
and maybe drop the manufacturer name altogether. I like the idea of killing with a 'Federal Marine Assault Rifle' better than a 'Federation Duvolle Specialist Assault Rifle' |
KaTaLy5t-87
Shadow Company HQ
116
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Posted - 2013.11.02 14:26:00 -
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Skybladev2 wrote:What about pirate LP stores? Whom to kill to buy there?
I imagine that pirate missions will perhaps be PvE if and when that eventually happens. At the moment I don't think the pirates fit into any game mode really. Pubs are, well pubs, Faction Warfare seems to be set up for the big racial factions and PC is for the player corps. I think for the pirates to fit in we would need PvE missions of some kind, I don't know a lot about Eve but I don't think pirates take part in FW? I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1160
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:40:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Why cant we have specialist vehicles? Vehicles are currently undergoing a very big rebalance. Once that is done there is nothing to say we wont. :)
Alright, so I know all this FW stuff is great and all. But when do you guys plan on adding a player to player trading feature??? In my opinion that is incredibly important for the growth of this game and its economy in general. I mean, by just adding the player to player trading option, you'll allow for players to set up there own markets via chat channels and that will at least give us something to work with while you guys keep developing the main market system.
I mean...... it cant be that hard to develop a trading box can it?
I guarantee that if you add this feature TONS of people would come back just because everyone can finally trade off the extra things they don't want anymore. So for example, the extra 50 tanks I have could go to a tanking friend of mine that stopped playing because it was too hard for him to grind out the isk (hypothetical example (I don't actually have a friend like that)).
Marston VC, STB director
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1695
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Posted - 2013.11.03 14:05:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:Weapons should be instead be called: Federal Marine Duvolle Assault Rifle Federal Marine CreoDron Shotgun Federal Marine Allotek Plasma Cannon Republic Command Boundless Combat Rifle Republic Command Freedom Mass Driver Imperial Guard Viziam Laser Rifle Imperial Guard Scrambler Rifle State Peacekeepers Kaalakiota Rail Rifle State Peacekeepers Wiyrkomi Swarm Launcher
and maybe drop the manufacturer name altogether. I like the idea of killing with a 'Federal Marine Assault Rifle' better than a 'Federation Duvolle Specialist Assault Rifle'
Simpler is better. I don't think the factions need the second part to their name. If the Aurum items that are sold for LP retain their original name then I think the 'Specialist' could be dropped to shorten them as well. Just consider anything sold by the militias to be specialist fittings. I think the manufacturer name has to stay because it's the model name people are used to and lower grade versions could be sold. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1695
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Posted - 2013.11.03 14:17:00 -
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I think this would be a fair opportunity to add standard faction fits. Think of them like standard grade starter fits with no skill requirements. Paint them in faction colors and keep the LP cost low. The initial version could be an Assault dropsuit. Additional roles could be added as the racial variants are fleshed out across the races and you have time.
Standard grade gives an incentive to use over the starter fit and is underpowered compared to all the advanced and prototype gear that people use.
The suit is based on the chosen faction, not the player's birth race, so an Amarr seeing the true light could fit up in full Minmatar gear for LP and no initial skill training.
They are fully fit like the featured fits and starter fits to make it easy for beginners.
I'd also like to see faction variants of all level of dropsuits for LP and in faction colors. Limit the specialist coloring to a small stripe or patch so I can stop wearing a bright yellow suit on the battlefield. Losing the super dark black coloring at prototype would be nice too, especially for the scouts. Camo should act as camouflage. |
XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
504
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Posted - 2013.11.03 16:57:00 -
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Don't know if it's been said before but I would love to see al those peoplethat keep crying pay to win say so after lp store opens up. They will have no excuse to call this game pay to win (which it isn't).
Plasma Cannon Advocate
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
504
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Posted - 2013.11.03 16:59:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Jackof All-Trades wrote:Weapons should be instead be called: Federal Marine Duvolle Assault Rifle Federal Marine CreoDron Shotgun Federal Marine Allotek Plasma Cannon Republic Command Boundless Combat Rifle Republic Command Freedom Mass Driver Imperial Guard Viziam Laser Rifle Imperial Guard Scrambler Rifle State Peacekeepers Kaalakiota Rail Rifle State Peacekeepers Wiyrkomi Swarm Launcher
and maybe drop the manufacturer name altogether. I like the idea of killing with a 'Federal Marine Assault Rifle' better than a 'Federation Duvolle Specialist Assault Rifle' Simpler is better. I don't think the factions need the second part to their name. If the Aurum items that are sold for LP retain their original name then I think the 'Specialist' could be dropped to shorten them as well. Just consider anything sold by the militias to be specialist fittings. I think the manufacturer name has to stay because it's the model name people are used to and lower grade versions could be sold.
think it's because they want to establish that they are planetary items. In eve when you have LP items they are usually called things like "Republic Fleet" and "Federation navy". This tells you they are ships of some sort.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
504
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:03:00 -
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Also I'm sorry that this is my third post in a row but I think it deserves it's own little nook and cranny.
Specialist items should include the std and adv variants as it would give playeres of every skill level a chance to tailor their suits to the best that is can be for their skill level.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
883
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Posted - 2013.11.04 01:55:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Also I'm sorry that this is my third post in a row but I think it deserves it's own little nook and cranny.
Specialist items should include the std and adv variants as it would give playeres of every skill level a chance to tailor their suits to the best that is can be for their skill level.
Beyond skill level, some players would rather use a lower level weapon that's easier to fit and use the additional CPU/PG to upgrade other stuff, while conserving LP. For instance, I would have as much interest in a standard specialist Laser Rifle with Assault Rifle fitting costs as a Viziam.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1709
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:27:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Also I'm sorry that this is my third post in a row but I think it deserves it's own little nook and cranny.
Specialist items should include the std and adv variants as it would give players of every skill level a chance to tailor their suits to the best that is can be for their skill level.
I hope to see specialist versions at all levels as well. |
Skybladev2
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
58
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:04:00 -
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KaTaLy5t-87 wrote:Skybladev2 wrote:What about pirate LP stores? Whom to kill to buy there? I imagine that pirate missions will perhaps be PvE if and when that eventually happens. At the moment I don't think the pirates fit into any game mode really. Pubs are, well pubs, Faction Warfare seems to be set up for the big racial factions and PC is for the player corps. I think for the pirates to fit in we would need PvE missions of some kind, I don't know a lot about Eve but I don't think pirates take part in FW? I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. In Eve there are pirate agents that give you pirate missions and you get pirate factions LP points. Of course, they are outside Empire space, so FW do not affect this agents in any way. I dont really know what to do with it in Dust, but pirate items always better, than imperial ones, thats why I asked.
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
162
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:11:00 -
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Will there be a bonus for winners? In pub matches you get about the same isk if you win or lose. In these faction fights, there will be a lot of randoms running STD (or BPO) who are there for participation rewards, and they should be punished for not trying to win (using ADV or PRO or teamwork). |
Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1530
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:12:00 -
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Will there be standard FW gear (Not AUR FW)? Will it be LP only?
Please say yes.
For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Replication Warrior
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
5136
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Posted - 2013.11.17 13:24:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Also, how much will these items cost? With the LP's, they should imo be in between the adv. and PROTO prices. I think the isk cost shouldn't be very significant at all. The entire FW economy will revolve around getting those items sold, and if they're too expensive they have to be sold at a higher price, and if that happens and nobody really buys them then the FW economy collapses.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
397
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Posted - 2013.11.18 21:35:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote: All Dem Aurum Items So, you know how you can go to the market and buy Aurum variations of weapons and equipment? For the most part the only difference between these items and their ISK counterparts is that they have lower skill requirements. Pay Aurum, get into stuff with less skill points. Well it turns out this creates a really tricky thing to balance, and we don't want to have any pay-to-win issues. With that in mind why not make all those Aurum variants available in the loyalty store as well? So we did. It turns out it makes our lives a lot easier, gives you guys a whole lot of stuff to get from the loyalty store, and is just awesome all around.
So what you're trying to say is...
"Well it turns out this creates a really tricky thing to balance, and we don't want to have any pay-to-win issues."
Yet, you already have these items in game now. Please tell me how you think you don't already have this now. Personally I don't care one bit. But to blatantly lie about ARUM items not being pay to win is well... wrong. There are many ARUM items that have higher meta level, that give higher bonuses than any ISK variant on the market. Yet you still claim they are not pay-to-win. Please do all of us a favor and stop lying to the community about this.
Director (Management)
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
1
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Posted - 2013.11.18 21:51:00 -
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what are DATA MINERS?
**you wear black hoodies. I wear allot of flannel.
you wanna change the game. I wanna change the channel.**
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1139
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Posted - 2013.11.18 22:15:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I'm Gallente and I hate Caldari. But my knives are Caldari. What to do? I'm skilled into Madrugars instead of Gunloggies but I'm a Minmatar/Caldari loyalist.
Should I wait untill 1.7 where Madrugars and Gunloggies have the same skill?
But I'm Minmatar before Caldari, and we can only earn LP for one faction.
Should I wait until we get Minmatar and Amarr vehicles? (2016)
Check out my corp's new website here :D
-HAND
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1139
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Posted - 2013.11.18 22:16:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:what are DATA MINERS? Codebreaker modules.
They increase your hack speed, along with the skill bonus for Data Miners. The bonus also gives you a 5% bonus to hack speed per level.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
-HAND
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Shruikan Iceeye
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2013.11.18 22:59:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:Weapons should be instead be called: Federal Marine Duvolle Assault Rifle Federal Marine CreoDron Shotgun Federal Marine Allotek Plasma Cannon Republic Command Boundless Combat Rifle Republic Command Freedom Mass Driver Imperial Guard Viziam Laser Rifle Imperial Guard Scrambler Rifle State Peacekeepers Kaalakiota Rail Rifle State Peacekeepers Wiyrkomi Swarm Launcher
and maybe drop the manufacturer name altogether. I like the idea of killing with a 'Federal Marine Assault Rifle' better than a 'Federation Duvolle Specialist Assault Rifle' That last part is the best idea fosho
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