Honestly, why not just change it to 60k and 160k tomorrow? With Corp taxes now in effect, Corps can just raise the tax if theyre running low on funds. Seems a lot better than nerfing individuals ISK payout and then buffing it higher than it was to start with a week later.

Honestly, because it a far more dramatic change and I wanted to be sure the community had time to respond and provide feedback on that change.

there needs to be a fix to corps attacking themselves with an alt corp just to lock districts.

So its less dramatic to nerf individual payouts by 50k than it is to buff it by 10k? I can see how its less dramatic for the clone sell on the corp end, but if the goal is to get people fighting then the proposed change that will happen next week is what you want. Right now youre planning on hardcore nerfing individual payouts and nerfing the corp payout to a lesser degree. Therefore, that is LESS incentive to fight. Why fight and lose clones when you can not fight and gain more isk overall by selling those clones? So once again, just do the 60k and 160k tomorrow. Im usually a SocksFan, but Im not following you on this one.

Tomorrows change makes it so that doing so will have to be done at a loss of ISK.

Hey guys,

With tomorrows (October 17th) downtime we will be making some changes to the price clones in planetary conquest. The changes are as follows:

• Clone sell price changed from 150,000 ISK to 110,000 ISK.
• Biomass price of clones (clones killed in battle) changed from 150,000 ISK to 100,000 ISK.

I owe you all an apology for the incredibly late notice on this. It is my fault and I take responsibility for that.

With that being said we are also looking at changing these numbers again next week in a fairly dramatic fashion. The current numbers favor players selling the clones they have instead of using them for fighting. What we would like to do next week is change the numbers to the following:

• Clone sell price changed to 60,000 ISK.
• Biomass price of clones (clones killed in battle) to 160,000 ISK.

Those changes would make it so that you make far more money by attacking. Before making a huge change like that however we would like to get some feedback.

TL;DR: Clone prices in planetary conquest are going down slightly tomorrow. Discussion happening here about making big change to clone prices.

there needs to be a fix to corps attacking themselves with an alt corp just to now make more money than if they did nothing with the clones by suiciding blank militia fit alts in alt corps.

Hell I even thought about just setting clone sell value to 0 ISK. >.<

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This is my thought. The money is still there, it's now just goes to the players instead of directly to the corp.

This is why I am against reducing the sell value straight to 0. Corps would mandate their players do that and crazy stuff.

Tomorrows change makes it so that doing so will have to be done at a loss of ISK.

This Is Kinda BS for the corps that are taking districts and successfully defending ... Expect tickets evey day from my corp and all of our officers ( myself included) if you go through with this... It took us months to get where were at today and now your going to nerf are income. When eon was making hundreds of millions a day nothing was changed... WHERES MY CPM I WANT A MEATING ASAP!


You need to find a better way to deal with the corps locking districts for profit and not penalize those that are not locking their districts.... Your a tool SoxFour

Seriously this is the fluff you reply to what is your problem sir ...

Seriously this is the fluff you reply to what is your problem sir ...

Short story: We had plans for planetary conquest that relied on other things. Those other things ended up getting shelved/delayed/dropped/just not delivered. We are working on the design for planetary conquest 2.0 that does a lot of things very differently. We are in no way shape or form ready to talk about those designs yet. Right now we need to do more work on the designs and then decide: Do we just sort of tweak numbers for the current planetary conquest and wait until 2.0 comes along for the complete revamp? Or is 2.0 going to take to long and we need to spend development time on fixing 1.0.

How does it cost any money if biomass money is laundered back to the owner corp wallets through the alt corp members wallets? Help me to understand...

Because his Troll Ignore Proficiency skill is 4 whereas mine is only 1

But I am just a tool... tools don't have self control. We just hit our head against walls. :(

More seriously:

I am not sure how much of a long story vs short story to make this so I am going to go more with short story.

Short story: We had plans for planetary conquest that relied on other things. Those other things ended up getting shelved/delayed/dropped/just not delivered. We are working on the design for planetary conquest 2.0 that does a lot of things very differently. We are in no way shape or form ready to talk about those designs yet. Right now we need to do more work on the designs and then decide: Do we just sort of tweak numbers for the current planetary conquest and wait until 2.0 comes along for the complete revamp? Or is 2.0 going to take to long and we need to spend development time on fixing 1.0.

Not so serious:

You said you wanted a meeting with the CPM, called me a tool, and sort of threatened to make lots of petitions if we went through with these changes. You didn't try to have a conversation or anything like that. I am not sure what kind of response to make...

Your plans are to make these changes with less than twelve hours notice you sir have left no time for a proper conversation or discussion on the topic before implementation and to be more realistic knowing how you work you would implement this anyways. So yes I do think deep inside your a tool and yes I do plan to launch a wave of tickets. I will stand down until my corps PR rep gets on but this is not over soxs

I will stand down until my corps PR rep gets on but this is not over soxs