Darwinism yo.

Edit: When did Pradox become the lolpolice?

Darwinism yo.

Edit: When did Paradox become the lolpolice?

PFC should be looked upon as a DUST community Treasure, and as such, should be policed & protected by the community as a whole.

It is my belief that the program should be expanded.

Should there be regional planets for America, EU, and Asia? If there were, then the reinforcement timers would be more in tune than they currently are.

In any case, I commend the Pradox One bros.

Edit* Their->there(yes grammar ****)

Edit #2* Apparently CCP doesn't like the word ****, so i'll go with Natzi instead.

Go for it Pradox. Glad to see some people actually doing what they want to see done.

Tired of seeing these QQ babies thinking AE is here for them to slap our @ss to make them dinner.

If you care about PFC then go do something about it, send a message (like OP and his crew is doing). Go pillage their PFC districts and maybe their other districts as well (if they have any). This should be a well loved pastime for you guys, enjoy it.

However, same goes for the anarchists that want nothing more than to see it burn. To the victor goes the spoils motherf*ckers.

Go for it Pradox. Glad to see some people actually doing what they want to see done.

Tired of seeing these QQ babies thinking AE is here for them to slap our @ss to make them dinner.

If you care about PFC then go do something about it, send a message (like OP and his crew is doing). Go pillage their PFC districts and maybe their other districts as well (if they have any). This should be a well loved pastime for you guys, enjoy it.

However, same goes for the anarchists that want nothing more than to see it burn. To the victor goes the spoils motherf*ckers.

for a small fee, Ancient Exiles will handle all of your policing needs :D

Or maybe you should stop playing for a while to get on my level in bf4 come back and new suits, weapons a ton of unused sp

psh i just maxed out my solder, and my engineer is maxed out and im working on getting my DMR as well as maxing out my new carbine. so :P

This matter was taken care of. I talked to them and subdreddit (who they took they district from) the day after it happened. I made a post about it. The only reason it only took so long, because they had to wait for Subdreddit's CEO to get online. They gave it back a few days ago.

psh i just maxed out my solder, and my engineer is maxed out and im working on getting my DMR as well as maxing out my new carbine. so :P

DMR is OP as hell. I rock with it.

DMR is OP as hell. I rock with it.

Original post updated, those interested in PFC district must be able to field a full team and agree to follow the rules of PFC, contact Mike Ruan.

So Pradox is the police, I'd assume Gens are helping?

This is an extremely misunderstood action by everyone. Its crazy how everyone thinks we are dicks and assholes for this entire thing happening. Has anyone contacted me asking? No. You just assume. Did Subdreddit fight us THREE times legit? Yes. Did a corporation leave the planet? Yes. We were at that moment by sheer chance for that 2nd district and it was vacant. I don't understand why everyone is going crazy about this. We gave Subdreddit their district back and have spoke with EVERYONE involved but the most vocal people about it cant even contact the CEO OF THE CORPORATION IN SUBJECT. The people that know me here know I am cool and my entire corp is cool so stop treating us like a bunch of douche bags bc thats far from what we are. We just want to have a good time, be good sports, and have fun playing a game. Stop judging **** before u know what is going on!

This is an extremely misunderstood action by everyone. Its crazy how everyone thinks we are dicks and assholes for this entire thing happening. Has anyone contacted me asking? No. You just assume. Did Subdreddit fight us THREE times legit? Yes. Did a corporation leave the planet? Yes. We were at that moment by sheer chance for that 2nd district and it was vacant. I don't understand why everyone is going crazy about this. We gave Subdreddit their district back and have spoke with EVERYONE involved but the most vocal people about it cant even contact the CEO OF THE CORPORATION IN SUBJECT. The people that know me here know I am cool and my entire corp is cool so stop treating us like a bunch of douche bags bc thats far from what we are. We just want to have a good time, be good sports, and have fun playing a game. Stop judging **** before u know what is going on!

If the situation warrants, then yes I'll commit my guys.

War?

This is an extremely misunderstood action by everyone. Its crazy how everyone thinks we are dicks and assholes for this entire thing happening. Has anyone contacted me asking? No. You just assume. Did Subdreddit fight us THREE times legit? Yes. Did a corporation leave the planet? Yes. We were at that moment by sheer chance for that 2nd district and it was vacant. I don't understand why everyone is going crazy about this. We gave Subdreddit their district back and have spoke with EVERYONE involved but the most vocal people about it cant even contact the CEO OF THE CORPORATION IN SUBJECT. The people that know me here know I am cool and my entire corp is cool so stop treating us like a bunch of douche bags bc thats far from what we are. We just want to have a good time, be good sports, and have fun playing a game. Stop judging **** before u know what is going on!

I hear the distant rumblings...

...yet, some are all to ready to see it all burn down.

Honestly, I think we should return the district, unless I'm mistaken, you didn't know the rules of PFC. But if you did and still took subdreddit's (Not sure if I spelled that right) district, then I believe Mike was just in taking the district. But If I read correctly, you didn't. Alas, this is not my call to make, though, I am but a simple knight.

Did you guys take the District from Subsonic Synthetics?

*edit- Spelling of Corp name.

Did you guys take the District from Subsonic Synthetics?

*edit- Spelling of Corp name.

Sorry but Derrith is not a political officer for Pradox One and I did not check the forums to see what others were discussing.

I personally feel that those who violate the rules should get in the back of the waiting list. Pradox will evaluate and give this district to a corporation in the same manner TeamPlayers once did, when Pradox One first arrived on PFC.

Good guys or not, Subsonic violated the rules, wait for the next opening bros. Subsonic is not the only one who wants a district on PFC.

Pradox One, will be searching for a worthy new resident for PFC.

Pradox 1. Now you own two districts, you attacked without letting the planet go back on -line, you did not fight with your own corp.
What a joke you are. How is subredit more worthy when we beat them 3 games in a row? Maybe someone will police you...

Sorry but Derrith is not a political officer for Pradox One and I did not check the forums to see what others were discussing.

I personally feel that those who violate the rules should get in the back of the waiting list. Pradox will evaluate and give this district to a corporation in the same manner TeamPlayers once did, when Pradox One first arrived on PFC.

Good guys or not, Subsonic violated the rules, wait for the next opening bros. Subsonic is not the only one who wants a district on PFC.

Pradox One, will be searching for a worthy new resident for PFC.

Ok. Let the facts fall as they may...

That thread dates to 10/5, and this thread was created on 10/9.

Weighing all the evidence presented, Subdreddit should have control of one of the districts, and Southern Legion should have control over the other.

In the end, we should all concentarte on setting things right, and that is the only thing that really matters; Pride is secondary.

I urge Pradox One to return control of the captured district to The Southern Legion.

I also urge Subsonic Synthetics to get their name on the list for a PFC district.

Furthermore, I urge the community to consider expanding PFC to include another planet so other interested Corps may have a legitimate chance of participating in full team battles without the necessity of contesting the big dawgs.

I also feel that this is a justified position to take as well.

Subsonic violated PFC rules, albeit unknowingly, but nevetheless they did, and as repercussion the vacant district that they rightfully claimed as their own is now taken and will be distributed to the next Corp on the waiting list.

Sorry Subsonic bros, but the chips have fallen as they may.

There was one of two ways that this could have played out, and I firmly believe had you taken to the forums sooner you would still be in control of the vacant lot, and a simple apology to Subdreddit with the return of their district would have been enough, but the motion to proceed on the recapture was already set.

I would like to propose another rule. Corps with 4+ districts shouldn't be on pfc. If a corp can take a bunch of districts then they don't need the training. This will help older corps move on from pfc and let new ones in. as it stands, there is not really much incentive for a corp to say "okay we have evolved, lets move on and give another new corp a chance. "

I would like to propose another rule. Corps with 4+ districts shouldn't be on pfc. If a corp can take a bunch of districts then they don't need the training. This will help older corps move on from pfc and let new ones in. as it stands, there is not really much incentive for a corp to say "okay we have evolved, lets move on and give another new corp a chance. "

Actually the position was taken on the forums and via CEO contact. The forums said AE would be taking over the Police role so why is Pradox stepping in? Furthermore talks with Southern Legion took place well before Pradoxx attacked. Funny how southern legion joined in on the attacks on Pradox side against subsonic. We took the proper channels to fix the situation. will just take another district.

Question(?)

Was the capture of Subdreddits district by Subsonic Synthetics done in one night by a clone pack?

I'm just curious. I don't think the answer has any effect on whether control of the district should be changed, because Subsonic Synthetics already agreed to return it.

(while I can't speak for all of subsonic's leadership) I believe we are at fault for not addressing the forums quickly enough.

No, we captured Subdreddit's district after 3 continuous attacks on separate nights using clone packs. We "claimed" southern legion district when we saw it open after the first night of attacks. Once contacted by southern, who explained our actions that "might" have violated PFC rules. We continued to take subdreddit's district as it was a LEGAL attack. We were not sure if we were going to keep the district 4( southern legion's). We proceed to give subdreddit their district back once we understood we were allowed only 1 district. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, our taking of district 4 was a mistake on southern legions fault, not our own.

(while I can't speak for all of subsonic's leadership) I believe we are at fault for not addressing the forums quickly enough. Although, whether or not pradox 1 attack on us was justified, a simple meeting between both corps would have solved this WAY easier. We are very easy going, mature, and eager group of people who should have been given the benefit of doubt instead being attacked without any diplomatic resolution.

Personally when I attack only use PFC to train my new players. Those battles are open to all members of Molon, not just those PC qualified.

Making a rule like that would really complicate things, NTM clear nearly half of PFC ATM.

I see PFC as place for training and a neutral place to fight someone without starting a war over it.

I guess the most important question would be how many corps are out there that want to, can, and are willing to field a 16 man team up to 3 times a week, that are not already on PFC?

Also when a noob fights a noob does anybody really learn anything?

Actually, taking Subdreddits' district on PFC in that manner runs counter to the rules of PFC, and is illegal, however, taking a vacant district is a completely legal move, and barring an agreement between you guys and TSOL, that district is rightfully yours.

In the end, you returned the illegally obtained property, as should Pradox One.

You see how hard Cubs worked to keep PFC in order? Hate him or not, everyone should respect him and send him a thank you note with some ISK.

I am sorry but it seems whatever I do, I will, not make everyone happy so I will continue with my originally stated solution and find a new owner in the fashion TeamPlayers found us. We will get new blood into PFC and sit down with them and tell 'em the rules.

edit: grammar

"however, taking a vacant district is a completely legal move, and barring an agreement between you guys and TSOL, that district is rightfully yours.

In the end, you returned the illegally obtained property, as should Pradox One."

You see how hard Cubs worked to keep PFC in order? Hate him or not, everyone should respect him and send him a thank you note with some ISK.

I am sorry but it seems whatever I do, I will, not make everyone happy so I will continue with my originally stated solution and find a new owner in the fashion TeamPlayers found us. We will get new blood into PFC and sit down with them and tell 'em the rules.

edit: grammar

You see how hard Cubs worked to keep PFC in order? Hate him or not, everyone should respect him and send him a thank you note with some ISK.

I am sorry but it seems whatever I do, I will, not make everyone happy so I will continue with my originally stated solution and find a new owner in the fashion TeamPlayers found us. We will get new blood into PFC and sit down with them and tell 'em the rules.

edit: grammar

You see how hard Cubs worked to keep PFC in order? Hate him or not, everyone should respect him and send him a thank you note with some ISK.

I am sorry but it seems whatever I do, I will, not make everyone happy so I will continue with my originally stated solution and find a new owner in the fashion TeamPlayers found us. We will get new blood into PFC and sit down with them and tell 'em the rules.

edit: grammar

No, we captured Subdreddit's district after 3 continuous attacks on separate nights using clone packs. We "claimed" southern legion district when we saw it open after the first night of attacks. Once contacted by southern, who explained our actions that "might" have violated PFC rules. We continued to take subdreddit's district as it was a LEGAL attack. We were not sure if we were going to keep the district 4( southern legion's). We proceed to give subdreddit their district back once we understood we were allowed only 1 district. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, our taking of district 4 was a mistake on southern legions fault, not our own.

(while I can't speak for all of subsonic's leadership) I believe we are at fault for not addressing the forums quickly enough. Although, whether or not pradox 1 attack on us was justified, a simple meeting between both corps would have solved this WAY easier. We are very easy going, mature, and eager group of people who should have been given the benefit of doubt instead being attacked without any diplomatic resolution.

Welcome to PC. This isn't the first time a situation like this has occurred. Just bear with it. It's not a perfect system we created by any means but it has worked so far. Good luck and happy hunting

Thanks man, I've played Eve before so I understand the process. Diplo problems am I right?

Please read until the end of the thread. My position has changed a bit. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it.

As far as policing PFC, AE are ultimately in control, but it was agreed upon by multpile members on PFC that it would be mutually enforced by those Corps on PFC.

You see how hard Cubs worked to keep PFC in order? Hate him or not, everyone should respect him and send him a thank you note with some ISK.

I am sorry but it seems whatever I do, I will, not make everyone happy so I will continue with my originally stated solution and find a new owner in the fashion TeamPlayers found us. We will get new blood into PFC and sit down with them and tell 'em the rules.

I have admired Cubs work on PFC, and I told him so on many occasions. During the FEC war, I fought to keep PFC off limits to attacks from the FEC. However, you are not Cubs.

You took a situation which was already dealt with, and did not require you to get involved. You, decided to name yourself in charge of policing PFC, even though neither injured party asked you to. You broke the rules of PFC yourself. Now you are rejecting other people thoughts on the matter and are going to do whatever you wanted to do in the first place.

NTM It seems the only person, that is not happy with Subsonic Synthesis getting their district back is you.

Do you disagree with RevoL Frog ruling?

Small question, why did you help tsol then when we tried to take back our district?

they werd good games though.

It is not my ruling. I am not a dictator.

Logic, and valid claims, dictate the conclusion.