DUST Search - Pradox One declares Subsonic in violation of PFC rules.

Zombie Supreme wrote:

General John Ripper wrote:

I would like to propose another rule. Corps with 4+ districts shouldn't be on pfc. If a corp can take a bunch of districts then they don't need the training. This will help older corps move on from pfc and let new ones in. as it stands, there is not really much incentive for a corp to say "okay we have evolved, lets move on and give another new corp a chance. "

Personally when I attack only use PFC to train my new players. Those battles are open to all members of Molon, not just those PC qualified.

Making a rule like that would really complicate things, NTM clear nearly half of PFC ATM.

I see PFC as place for training and a neutral place to fight someone without starting a war over it.

I guess the most important question would be how many corps are out there that want to, can, and are willing to field a 16 man team up to 3 times a week, that are not already on PFC?

Also when a noob fights a noob does anybody really learn anything?


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General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 2975	Posted - 2013.10.09 11:03:00 - [1] - Quote Arirana wrote: Go for it Pradox. Glad to see some people actually doing what they want to see done. Tired of seeing these QQ babies thinking AE is here for them to slap our @ss to make them dinner. If you care about PFC then go do something about it, send a message (like OP and his crew is doing). Go pillage their PFC districts and maybe their other districts as well (if they have any). This should be a well loved pastime for you guys, enjoy it. However, same goes for the anarchists that want nothing more than to see it burn. To the victor goes the spoils motherf*ckers. I want tacos for dinner
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 2986	Posted - 2013.10.09 15:48:00 - [2] - Quote I say we let subsonic keep at least 1 pfc district. Maybe they weren't fully aware of the rules? In either case, we need more corps introduced into pc in a controlled environment. Alot of new corps entering get stomped because they have not played at a competitive level that the vets have become used too. If they are actually going to use their pfc district for training let them have it. It's better than having an already established corp just farm pfc.
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3083	Posted - 2013.10.10 04:29:00 - [3] - Quote RevoL Frog wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Honestly, I think we should return the district, unless I'm mistaken, you didn't know the rules of PFC. But if you did and still took subdreddit's (Not sure if I spelled that right) district, then I believe Mike was just in taking the district. But If I read correctly, you didn't. Alas, this is not my call to make, though, I am but a simple knight. Did you guys take the District from Subsonic Synthetics? *edit- Spelling of Corp name. they did
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3085	Posted - 2013.10.10 05:41:00 - [4] - Quote I would like to propose another rule. Corps with 4+ districts shouldn't be on pfc. If a corp can take a bunch of districts then they don't need the training. This will help older corps move on from pfc and let new ones in. as it stands, there is not really much incentive for a corp to say "okay we have evolved, lets move on and give another new corp a chance. "
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3088	Posted - 2013.10.10 06:11:00 - [5] - Quote a mutually enforced pfc will not work until multiple pfc corps actually get together and talk out how this is going to work. AE has not been very vocal about this. If AE does not want to police and settle this matter then it is up to the pfc community. A clear chain of command has to be established.
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3089	Posted - 2013.10.10 06:23:00 - [6] - Quote Mass Heals wrote: (while I can't speak for all of subsonic's leadership) I believe we are at fault for not addressing the forums quickly enough. The war room is fun but if your going to be active in pc, it is also good to stay informed in whats actually going on in New Eden.
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3092	Posted - 2013.10.10 06:32:00 - [7] - Quote Zombie Supreme wrote: General John Ripper wrote: I would like to propose another rule. Corps with 4+ districts shouldn't be on pfc. If a corp can take a bunch of districts then they don't need the training. This will help older corps move on from pfc and let new ones in. as it stands, there is not really much incentive for a corp to say "okay we have evolved, lets move on and give another new corp a chance. " Personally when I attack only use PFC to train my new players. Those battles are open to all members of Molon, not just those PC qualified. Making a rule like that would really complicate things, NTM clear nearly half of PFC ATM. I see PFC as place for training and a neutral place to fight someone without starting a war over it. I guess the most important question would be how many corps are out there that want to, can, and are willing to field a 16 man team up to 3 times a week, that are not already on PFC? Also when a noob fights a noob does anybody really learn anything? Well I knew some people were going to have a problem with my proposal because no one wants to lose a district. However... Already established corps with multiple districts with a proven record of being successful in pc and taking districts and defending them... Well they are already making clones, They are already earning income. These corps can still attack pfc districts and train their new guys. New corps with no districts do not have this luxury. They have to tax and wait and wait until they earn enough money for a clone pack and clone packs suck. 120 clones vs 150+? Clone packs should have 150 to make it like a normal skirmish. But those are CCP's ****** rules.. So long story short Older corps can still train their new guys in pfc even without a pfc district.... What pc needs is new blood. I am just stating what I personally think is best for the community not what is best for individual corps. I am not trying to pick favorites.
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3092	Posted - 2013.10.10 06:39:00 - [8] - Quote Mike Ruan wrote: You see how hard Cubs worked to keep PFC in order? Hate him or not, everyone should respect him and send him a thank you note with some ISK. I am sorry but it seems whatever I do, I will, not make everyone happy so I will continue with my originally stated solution and find a new owner in the fashion TeamPlayers found us. We will get new blood into PFC and sit down with them and tell 'em the rules. edit: grammar finally someone says it, Cubs does not get enough credit from the community.
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3109	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:23:00 - [9] - Quote I am thee one and only approved taco chef. If you want to learn to make tacos THE RIGHT WAY you must become my apprentice.