DUST Search - Found a good Commando fit

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Banning Hammer wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Banning Hammer wrote:

You can get your armor and shields a lot higher than that with Core Skills .... Not like it helps much, considering how slow the Commando suit is.. and how HUGE the hit box is. The problem with the Commando suit is been a HEAVY suit.

Ugh . . . no you can't? I have my armor upgrades and shield upgrade at level 4, as I stated in the OP. That brings the base stats from 250 armor / 250 shield to 300 armor / 300 shield. With armor and shield upgrades at 5 then it'd only be 312.5 armor / 312.5 shield (and yes, it does keep track of decimals, it just doesn't display it).

How much higher can you really get the armor/shields than what I have on an advanced commando? I do believe I may be able to squeeze out a complex plate to replace my enhanced plate, but that would be about it.

Also I agree that the large hit box of the heavy is unfortunate, but man I love the look of the Amarr heavy frame so I'm ok with it Lol

It would be nice though if it actually had the base HP reflective of a heavy, because right now even at prototype an assault can out tank you, as well as having the added bonus of an actual armor repair module and a grenade slot. I don't think it needs to be much, just something small like increase base stats from 250/250 to 300/300.

With max Core skills it is possible to have ;

378 hp Shields
447 hp Armor

And with Proto ;

444 hp shields.

But like i said... i doesn't helps.

That's only 41 more shield and 20 more armor on my advanced suit, I wouldn't call that "a lot higher." Also That's using a complex shield extender which would take up too much CPU for my laser weapons anyways.

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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2600	Posted - 2013.10.06 04:56:00 - [1] - Quote Yes, believe it or not. Had the Commando from the beginning, realized it was terrible, then only occasionally went back to it to try something new and realize it still is terrible, but not today! My urge kicked in again and I found something somewhat decent. Commando A/1-Series ELM-7 Laser Rifle CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Armor Plate Compact Nanohive 337 Shield 424 Armor I also have Shield Upgrades, Armor Upgrades, and Biotics at Level 4 Figured the work part of the Commando is only 1 low slot, which traditionally thinking has to go to a armor repper. Well decided to put the reps in the hive so I can use that slot for a plate, and man it's a world of difference! Laser rifle is great for taking out anyone at distance, as usual, and the assault scrambler rifle provides excellent mid-close range firepower. Also since it has a large clip than the AR, it means you can constantly fire for a longer time then take advantage of that quick reload speed of the Commando and get right back at it, and then if someone gets too close there's the 240 melee damage. Works much better if you have a logi, but you don't necessarily need one. I'm almost doing as well as with my Amarr Assault. Almost. Need to get the advanced triage hives so I can carry more than one with me.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1623	Posted - 2013.10.06 05:02:00 - [2] - Quote I've used this exact fit a time or two with decent success. The MD is a good complimentary weapon for the laser, too. It's great for picking off bads that have taken cover from your LR.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2624	Posted - 2013.10.06 05:04:00 - [3] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: I've used this exact fit a time or two with decent success. The MD is a good complimentary weapon for the laser, too. It's great for picking off bads that have taken cover from your LR. Sadly Aero has a condition. He cant touch dirty MInmatar weapons without feeling queasy.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1623	Posted - 2013.10.06 05:23:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: I've used this exact fit a time or two with decent success. The MD is a good complimentary weapon for the laser, too. It's great for picking off bads that have taken cover from your LR. Sadly Aero has a condition. He cant touch dirty MInmatar weapons without feeling queasy. I was wondering if you PIE guys had issues with that... I did just get a terrible idea. a dual LR commando. fire one until it's about to oveheat and then shoot off the other. It's get a hell of alot of damage downrange and keep an area covered for a while. I think I might throw some ISK at it later. Sadly for the commando suit my favorite weapons to back up the LR happens to be the scrambler pistol (there's nothing like dropping someone who's charging in thinking they have a free kill in 1 or 2 shots...), so giving up a bunch of cpu, pg, mod slots, speed, etc. has no benefit for me at all.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2603	Posted - 2013.10.06 05:32:00 - [5] - Quote Dual lasers, how have I not thought of that! But I still think the versatility is a little more important.
DildoMcnutz Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 255	Posted - 2013.10.06 06:27:00 - [6] - Quote If you find a pair of gloves so you can touch the dirty weapons of the other races then you should swap the CRD-9 for a GEK-38, it isn't worth the 12pg it costs to fit it, the damn proto one is only 3 pg more!!! what the hell is up with that lol
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2606	Posted - 2013.10.06 06:36:00 - [7] - Quote DildoMcnutz wrote: If you find a pair of gloves so you can touch the dirty weapons of the other races then you should swap the CRD-9 for a GEK-38, it isn't worth the 12pg it costs to fit it, the damn proto one is only 3 pg more!!! what the hell is up with that lol Except I don't need any extra PG, I'm good! Rather have more bullets per clip than more PG sitting on my suit doing nothing.
Epicsting pro Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 296	Posted - 2013.10.06 06:41:00 - [8] - Quote With 2 complex melee mods you can get the commando to do 688 melee damage.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2609	Posted - 2013.10.06 17:35:00 - [9] - Quote Alright, I am convinced this fit is actually a competitive fit, I've now been doing just as good as with my assault. The main problem tends to be getting to the action, since you're so slow, but once you're their havoc pursues. Also there is about a 20k ISK premium over an advanced assault fit, because clearly the Commando is so good it needs to cost more
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 658	Posted - 2013.10.06 17:57:00 - [10] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Alright, I am convinced this fit is actually a competitive fit, I've now been doing just as good as with my assault. The main problem tends to be getting to the action, since you're so slow, but once you're their havoc pursues. Also there is about a 20k ISK premium over an advanced assault fit, because clearly the Commando is so good it needs to cost more LOL

Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 538	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:02:00 - [11] - Quote My "ranged" commando is Commando A-1 NT-511 sniper, GLU-5 TacAR compact hives Basic armour repper Basic shield extender Thought about changing the repper for plates though
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2611	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:05:00 - [12] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Alright, I am convinced this fit is actually a competitive fit, I've now been doing just as good as with my assault. The main problem tends to be getting to the action, since you're so slow, but once you're their havoc pursues. Also there is about a 20k ISK premium over an advanced assault fit, because clearly the Commando is so good it needs to cost more LOL Well I'm talking about when competing against full squds in FW. Obviously in PC there is no room for trying anything unique.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 657	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:11:00 - [13] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Alright, I am convinced this fit is actually a competitive fit, I've now been doing just as good as with my assault. The main problem tends to be getting to the action, since you're so slow, but once you're their havoc pursues. Also there is about a 20k ISK premium over an advanced assault fit, because clearly the Commando is so good it needs to cost more LOL Well I'm talking about when competing against full squds in FW. Obviously in PC there is no room for trying anything unique. I might pickup the Commando sometime, Dual Imperial Scramblers :p must be nice to almost overheat one, swap to the other for a double whammy.
Aisha Ctarl PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1430	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:13:00 - [14] - Quote Logi at your service o7
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2612	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:13:00 - [15] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: I might pickup the Commando sometime, Dual Imperial Scramblers :p must be nice to almost overheat one, swap to the other for a double whammy. Hey man, great games today! And in my opinion the problem with using charge scramblers on the Commando is that you really need to reload them, meaning the reload bonus is going to waste. Still could be a good combo.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:14:00 - [16] - Quote You can get your armor and shields a lot higher than that with Core Skills .... Not like it helps much, considering how slow the Commando suit is.. and how HUGE the hit box is. The problem with the Commando suit is been a HEAVY suit.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2612	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:16:00 - [17] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Logi at your service o7 I am lucky to have so many logi friends!
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 628	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:18:00 - [18] - Quote no PLC? get out scrub
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1695	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:20:00 - [19] - Quote I always figured I'd have two of the same weapon on a Commando. ScR & Assault ScR. Skilling into two Amarr weapons that fill similar roles seems a bit of a waste to me. Edit: and compact hives are da bomb.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2612	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:22:00 - [20] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: You can get your armor and shields a lot higher than that with Core Skills .... Not like it helps much, considering how slow the Commando suit is.. and how HUGE the hit box is. The problem with the Commando suit is been a HEAVY suit. Ugh . . . no you can't? I have my armor upgrades and shield upgrade at level 4, as I stated in the OP. That brings the base stats from 250 armor / 250 shield to 300 armor / 300 shield. With armor and shield upgrades at 5 then it'd only be 312.5 armor / 312.5 shield (and yes, it does keep track of decimals, it just doesn't display it). How much higher can you really get the armor/shields than what I have on an advanced commando? I do believe I may be able to squeeze out a complex plate to replace my enhanced plate, but that would be about it. Also I agree that the large hit box of the heavy is unfortunate, but man I love the look of the Amarr heavy frame so I'm ok with it It would be nice though if it actually had the base HP reflective of a heavy, because right now even at prototype an assault can out tank you, as well as having the added bonus of an actual armor repair module and a grenade slot. I don't think it needs to be much, just something small like increase base stats from 250/250 to 300/300.

Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2612	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:25:00 - [21] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: no PLC? get out scrub I'm an Amarr purist, sorry! Chunky Munkey wrote: I always figured I'd have two of the same weapon on a Commando. ScR & Assault ScR. Skilling into two Amarr weapons that fill similar roles seems a bit of a waste to me. I do run a fit from time to time that is a ScR/AScR combo, good fun. However, I really do find using the laser rifle/AScR combo is a lot better. For one, both weapons benefit substantially from the reduced reload time. Also with the ScR/AScR combo, there is too much overlap with the effective range, while the LR/AScR combo is very separated allowing you to be extremely versatile.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:34:00 - [22] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: You can get your armor and shields a lot higher than that with Core Skills .... Not like it helps much, considering how slow the Commando suit is.. and how HUGE the hit box is. The problem with the Commando suit is been a HEAVY suit. Ugh . . . no you can't? I have my armor upgrades and shield upgrade at level 4, as I stated in the OP. That brings the base stats from 250 armor / 250 shield to 300 armor / 300 shield. With armor and shield upgrades at 5 then it'd only be 312.5 armor / 312.5 shield (and yes, it does keep track of decimals, it just doesn't display it). How much higher can you really get the armor/shields than what I have on an advanced commando? I do believe I may be able to squeeze out a complex plate to replace my enhanced plate, but that would be about it. Also I agree that the large hit box of the heavy is unfortunate, but man I love the look of the Amarr heavy frame so I'm ok with it It would be nice though if it actually had the base HP reflective of a heavy, because right now even at prototype an assault can out tank you, as well as having the added bonus of an actual armor repair module and a grenade slot. I don't think it needs to be much, just something small like increase base stats from 250/250 to 300/300. With max Core skills it is possible to have ; 378 hp Shields 447 hp Armor And with Proto ; 444 hp shields. But like i said... i doesn't helps. And btw... with Enhanced Extenders you will get 350 hp Shields.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2612	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:38:00 - [23] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: You can get your armor and shields a lot higher than that with Core Skills .... Not like it helps much, considering how slow the Commando suit is.. and how HUGE the hit box is. The problem with the Commando suit is been a HEAVY suit. Ugh . . . no you can't? I have my armor upgrades and shield upgrade at level 4, as I stated in the OP. That brings the base stats from 250 armor / 250 shield to 300 armor / 300 shield. With armor and shield upgrades at 5 then it'd only be 312.5 armor / 312.5 shield (and yes, it does keep track of decimals, it just doesn't display it). How much higher can you really get the armor/shields than what I have on an advanced commando? I do believe I may be able to squeeze out a complex plate to replace my enhanced plate, but that would be about it. Also I agree that the large hit box of the heavy is unfortunate, but man I love the look of the Amarr heavy frame so I'm ok with it It would be nice though if it actually had the base HP reflective of a heavy, because right now even at prototype an assault can out tank you, as well as having the added bonus of an actual armor repair module and a grenade slot. I don't think it needs to be much, just something small like increase base stats from 250/250 to 300/300. With max Core skills it is possible to have ; 378 hp Shields 447 hp Armor And with Proto ; 444 hp shields. But like i said... i doesn't helps. That's only 41 more shield and 20 more armor on my advanced suit, I wouldn't call that "a lot higher." Also That's using a complex shield extender which would take up too much CPU for my laser weapons anyways.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 657	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:40:00 - [24] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: I might pickup the Commando sometime, Dual Imperial Scramblers :p must be nice to almost overheat one, swap to the other for a double whammy. Hey man, great games today! And in my opinion the problem with using charge scramblers on the Commando is that you really need to reload them, meaning the reload bonus is going to waste. Still could be a good combo. Yep, were good games indeed, i must say its a whole lotta relaxed playing in a team of 6. About the Commando most moment i die is when i get lemminged to death and my Scrambler is about to overheat, finally dying to the last guy at the scene or dying after i had to take a few down with my toxin SMG, the commando might fix that for me, it looks like it has potential for that. But still got around 2-3m left to go in this fit before its finished.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:41:00 - [25] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: You can get your armor and shields a lot higher than that with Core Skills .... Not like it helps much, considering how slow the Commando suit is.. and how HUGE the hit box is. The problem with the Commando suit is been a HEAVY suit. Ugh . . . no you can't? I have my armor upgrades and shield upgrade at level 4, as I stated in the OP. That brings the base stats from 250 armor / 250 shield to 300 armor / 300 shield. With armor and shield upgrades at 5 then it'd only be 312.5 armor / 312.5 shield (and yes, it does keep track of decimals, it just doesn't display it). How much higher can you really get the armor/shields than what I have on an advanced commando? I do believe I may be able to squeeze out a complex plate to replace my enhanced plate, but that would be about it. Also I agree that the large hit box of the heavy is unfortunate, but man I love the look of the Amarr heavy frame so I'm ok with it It would be nice though if it actually had the base HP reflective of a heavy, because right now even at prototype an assault can out tank you, as well as having the added bonus of an actual armor repair module and a grenade slot. I don't think it needs to be much, just something small like increase base stats from 250/250 to 300/300. With max Core skills it is possible to have ; 378 hp Shields 447 hp Armor And with Proto ; 444 hp shields. But like i said... i doesn't helps. That's only 41 more shield and 20 more armor on my advanced suit, I wouldn't call that "a lot higher." Also That's using a complex shield extender which would take up too much CPU for my laser weapons anyways. Yeah... CPU is the biatch in the Commando suit. Anyway... like i said in the edit, with Core skills is 350 HP shields.
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 427	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:45:00 - [26] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: I always figured I'd have two of the same weapon on a Commando. ScR & Assault ScR. Skilling into two Amarr weapons that fill similar roles seems a bit of a waste to me. Edit: and compact hives are da bomb. Compact Hives are a Scouts best friend! 10 CPU, 2 PG, and I can restock ammo and repair my meager armor about 2-3 times.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2613	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:46:00 - [27] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Yeah... CPU is the biatch in the Commando suit. Anyway... like i said in the edit, with Core skills is 350 HP shields. Shield upgrades 5 puts your shields at 312.5 HP. If you then have shield extenders at 5 and commando at prototype and slap a single shield extender, it brings you up to 352.5 shield, but that's a massive SP sink for so little reward. Meanwhile I have my commando at 3 and shield extenders at 3 with shield upgrades at 4, saving my over 2.5 m SP (rough estimate off top of my head), and I'm only 15.5 shield short . . .
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2613	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:49:00 - [28] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: I always figured I'd have two of the same weapon on a Commando. ScR & Assault ScR. Skilling into two Amarr weapons that fill similar roles seems a bit of a waste to me. Edit: and compact hives are da bomb. Compact Hives are a Scouts best friend! 10 CPU, 2 PG, and I can restock ammo and repair my meager armor about 2-3 times. Compact hives are great! Such a little hit on your fitting and allows you to use all your lows (or in the case of the Commando, it's only low) on armor plates. Couple that with a logi who's dropping the prototype triage hives, and you sir are in business!
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 18:53:00 - [29] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Yeah... CPU is the biatch in the Commando suit. Anyway... like i said in the edit, with Core skills is 350 HP shields. Shield upgrades 5 puts your shields at 312.5 HP. If you then have shield extenders at 5 and commando at prototype and slap a single shield extender, it brings you up to 352.5 shield, but that's a massive SP sink for so little reward. Meanwhile I have my commando at 3 and shield extenders at 3 with shield upgrades at 4, saving my over 2.5 m SP (rough estimate off top of my head), and I'm only 15.5 shield short . . . Is 312, not 312.5 ... But that is irrelevant. The point is that it doesn't matter what you do it, still sucks. I had to get my Core Upgrades skills to level 4 and electronics to level 3.. just so i can equip a couple of Adv weapons, an Ammo Hive, Enhanced Shield extender and armor repair ... And i have "JUST" enough CPU.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 999	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:00:00 - [30] - Quote I would say that 37 shield isn't enough to justify taking up a high slot. That is, unless you can't fit anything else. Having better shield recharge or damage or something sounds more reasonable. I'll have to try this later today. My usual combo is an assault scrambler with a mass driver.



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