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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2613	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:01:00 - [31] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Yeah... CPU is the biatch in the Commando suit. Anyway... like i said in the edit, with Core skills is 350 HP shields. Shield upgrades 5 puts your shields at 312.5 HP. If you then have shield extenders at 5 and commando at prototype and slap a single shield extender, it brings you up to 352.5 shield, but that's a massive SP sink for so little reward. Meanwhile I have my commando at 3 and shield extenders at 3 with shield upgrades at 4, saving my over 2.5 m SP (rough estimate off top of my head), and I'm only 15.5 shield short . . . Is 312, not 312.5 ... But that is irrelevant. The point is that it doesn't matter what you do it, still sucks. I had to get my Core Upgrades skills to level 4 and electronics to level 3.. just so i can equip a couple of Adv weapons, an Ammo Hive, Enhanced Shield extender and armor repair ... And i have "JUST" enough CPU. I am fairly confident it is 312.5. Here's my reasoning 1) 300 x 1.25 - 312.5 2) When you look at your armor repair rate in stats, it includes decimals. When you watch your armor rep go up in battle, you'll notice sometimes it may go up 4 while other times it may go up 5 (example). This leads me to believe it counts decimals in your HP but doesn't display it. Also I've been going 23-0, 15-2, 17-0, 36-6 with 2000+ points against organized squads in FW. I mean sure it's not as good as other suits, but it can mildly compete. And my Engineering is at 3 while electronics are at 2, I'm still able to fit an advanced laser rifle, advanced assault scrambler rifle, enhanced shield extender, and enhanced armor plate on my advanced Commando. The only non-advanced thing I have is the compact nanohives.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:05:00 - [32] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Yeah... CPU is the biatch in the Commando suit. Anyway... like i said in the edit, with Core skills is 350 HP shields. Shield upgrades 5 puts your shields at 312.5 HP. If you then have shield extenders at 5 and commando at prototype and slap a single shield extender, it brings you up to 352.5 shield, but that's a massive SP sink for so little reward. Meanwhile I have my commando at 3 and shield extenders at 3 with shield upgrades at 4, saving my over 2.5 m SP (rough estimate off top of my head), and I'm only 15.5 shield short . . . Is 312, not 312.5 ... But that is irrelevant. The point is that it doesn't matter what you do it, still sucks. I had to get my Core Upgrades skills to level 4 and electronics to level 3.. just so i can equip a couple of Adv weapons, an Ammo Hive, Enhanced Shield extender and armor repair ... And i have "JUST" enough CPU. I am fairly confident it is 312.5. Here's my reasoning 1) 300 x 1.25 - 312.5 2) When you look at your armor repair rate in stats, it includes decimals. When you watch your armor rep go up in battle, you'll notice sometimes it may go up 4 while other times it may go up 5 (example). This leads me to believe it counts decimals in your HP but doesn't display it. Also I've been going 23-0, 15-2, 17-0, 36-6 with 2000+ points against organized squads in FW. I mean sure it's not as good as other suits, but it can mildly compete. It is 312 ... here is my reasoning ; I have maxed the Shields Core Skills ... and i looking at it right now... it says 312 hp without shield Extenders. But yes... i do normally well enough with the MD+ AR combo.. best one so far.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2613	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:06:00 - [33] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I would say that 37 shield isn't enough to justify taking up a high slot. That is, unless you can't fit anything else. Having better shield recharge or damage or something sounds more reasonable. I'll have to try this later today. My usual combo is an assault scrambler with a mass driver. And at first I would of totally agreed with you! I originally played Commando using damage mods, but realized that is not taking advantage of the racial bonus. I then started using a shield energizer, but then I figured the amount of shield it ate up wasn't worth the little extra recharge so I went with shield rechargers, But you know what, it turns out that 37 extra shield is a very big difference when you consider you are using a fit that has no passive armor regen. Every little bit of buffer is huge.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2613	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:10:00 - [34] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Yeah... CPU is the biatch in the Commando suit. Anyway... like i said in the edit, with Core skills is 350 HP shields. Shield upgrades 5 puts your shields at 312.5 HP. If you then have shield extenders at 5 and commando at prototype and slap a single shield extender, it brings you up to 352.5 shield, but that's a massive SP sink for so little reward. Meanwhile I have my commando at 3 and shield extenders at 3 with shield upgrades at 4, saving my over 2.5 m SP (rough estimate off top of my head), and I'm only 15.5 shield short . . . Is 312, not 312.5 ... But that is irrelevant. The point is that it doesn't matter what you do it, still sucks. I had to get my Core Upgrades skills to level 4 and electronics to level 3.. just so i can equip a couple of Adv weapons, an Ammo Hive, Enhanced Shield extender and armor repair ... And i have "JUST" enough CPU. I am fairly confident it is 312.5. Here's my reasoning 1) 300 x 1.25 - 312.5 2) When you look at your armor repair rate in stats, it includes decimals. When you watch your armor rep go up in battle, you'll notice sometimes it may go up 4 while other times it may go up 5 (example). This leads me to believe it counts decimals in your HP but doesn't display it. Also I've been going 23-0, 15-2, 17-0, 36-6 with 2000+ points against organized squads in FW. I mean sure it's not as good as other suits, but it can mildly compete. It is 312 ... here is my reasoning ; I have maxed the Shields Core Skills ... and i looking at it right now... it says 312 hp without shield Extenders. But yes... i do normally well enough with the MD+ AR combo.. best one so far. Are you not reading my argument? First off, I wasn't saying anything regarding extenders in my reasoning. Also I aknowledged that is says 312, but again this is likely only because CCP figured it would be unnecessary to show. I mean, when you're looking at your HUD do you really want to see decimals? I bet you 10,000,000 ISK that the game does, in fact, count decimals in your HP. If you care to take me up on that, I will go hunt down a dev.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 658	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:11:00 - [35] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Yeah... CPU is the biatch in the Commando suit. Anyway... like i said in the edit, with Core skills is 350 HP shields. Shield upgrades 5 puts your shields at 312.5 HP. If you then have shield extenders at 5 and commando at prototype and slap a single shield extender, it brings you up to 352.5 shield, but that's a massive SP sink for so little reward. Meanwhile I have my commando at 3 and shield extenders at 3 with shield upgrades at 4, saving my over 2.5 m SP (rough estimate off top of my head), and I'm only 15.5 shield short . . . Is 312, not 312.5 ... But that is irrelevant. The point is that it doesn't matter what you do it, still sucks. I had to get my Core Upgrades skills to level 4 and electronics to level 3.. just so i can equip a couple of Adv weapons, an Ammo Hive, Enhanced Shield extender and armor repair ... And i have "JUST" enough CPU. I am fairly confident it is 312.5. Here's my reasoning 1) 300 x 1.25 - 312.5 2) When you look at your armor repair rate in stats, it includes decimals. When you watch your armor rep go up in battle, you'll notice sometimes it may go up 4 while other times it may go up 5 (example). This leads me to believe it counts decimals in your HP but doesn't display it. Also I've been going 23-0, 15-2, 17-0, 36-6 with 2000+ points against organized squads in FW. I mean sure it's not as good as other suits, but it can mildly compete. And my Engineering is at 3 while electronics are at 2, I'm still able to fit an advanced laser rifle, advanced assault scrambler rifle, enhanced shield extender, and enhanced armor plate on my advanced Commando. The only non-advanced thing I have is the compact nanohives. More then likely CCP uses (Integer) conversions from actual Float numbers when doing the display on screen, so the health is there but we cant see it, ive been known to be alive with 0 armor, so in essence it most likely was a half (0.5) or less something that kept me breathing.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:14:00 - [36] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I am fairly confident it is 312.5. Here's my reasoning 1) 300 x 1.25 - 312.5 2) When you look at your armor repair rate in stats, it includes decimals. When you watch your armor rep go up in battle, you'll notice sometimes it may go up 4 while other times it may go up 5 (example). This leads me to believe it counts decimals in your HP but doesn't display it. Also I've been going 23-0, 15-2, 17-0, 36-6 with 2000+ points against organized squads in FW. I mean sure it's not as good as other suits, but it can mildly compete. It is 312 ... here is my reasoning ; I have maxed the Shields Core Skills ... and i looking at it right now... it says 312 hp without shield Extenders. But yes... i do normally well enough with the MD+ AR combo.. best one so far. Are you not reading my argument? First off, I wasn't saying anything regarding extenders in my reasoning. Also I aknowledged that is says 312, but again this is likely only because CCP figured it would be unnecessary to show. I mean, when you're looking at your HUD do you really want to see decimals? I bet you 10,000,000 ISK that the game does, in fact, count decimals in your HP. If you care to take me up on that, I will go hunt down a dev. Give me the 10,000,000 isk then.... With Enhanced Shield Extender it says .... 350 hp, not 352.5 hp. I looking at it right now... as i typing.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2613	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:16:00 - [37] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I am fairly confident it is 312.5. Here's my reasoning 1) 300 x 1.25 - 312.5 2) When you look at your armor repair rate in stats, it includes decimals. When you watch your armor rep go up in battle, you'll notice sometimes it may go up 4 while other times it may go up 5 (example). This leads me to believe it counts decimals in your HP but doesn't display it. Also I've been going 23-0, 15-2, 17-0, 36-6 with 2000+ points against organized squads in FW. I mean sure it's not as good as other suits, but it can mildly compete. It is 312 ... here is my reasoning ; I have maxed the Shields Core Skills ... and i looking at it right now... it says 312 hp without shield Extenders. But yes... i do normally well enough with the MD+ AR combo.. best one so far. Are you not reading my argument? First off, I wasn't saying anything regarding extenders in my reasoning. Also I aknowledged that is says 312, but again this is likely only because CCP figured it would be unnecessary to show. I mean, when you're looking at your HUD do you really want to see decimals? I bet you 10,000,000 ISK that the game does, in fact, count decimals in your HP. If you care to take me up on that, I will go hunt down a dev. Give me the 10,000,000 isk then.... With Enhanced Shield Extender it says .... 350 hp, not 352.5 hp. I looking at it right now... as i typing. Now you're just trolling. We're talking about what the actual code lists for the variable, not what it displays in the interface.
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:19:00 - [38] - Quote The commando suits are great. i just dunno why folk seem to slate them. sure they take a bit of work to run efficiently but i love em. at lv4 on my heavy alt and atm i just run dual recruit rifles on basic frame while i'm slowly slugging ahead for my proto suit and workign on AR's. it has a great amount of EHP, insane reload speed and enough room for an ammo pack. only reason i'm waiting on this char is cos i want either the minny or gallente suit
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:20:00 - [39] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I am fairly confident it is 312.5. Here's my reasoning 1) 300 x 1.25 - 312.5 2) When you look at your armor repair rate in stats, it includes decimals. When you watch your armor rep go up in battle, you'll notice sometimes it may go up 4 while other times it may go up 5 (example). This leads me to believe it counts decimals in your HP but doesn't display it. Also I've been going 23-0, 15-2, 17-0, 36-6 with 2000+ points against organized squads in FW. I mean sure it's not as good as other suits, but it can mildly compete. It is 312 ... here is my reasoning ; I have maxed the Shields Core Skills ... and i looking at it right now... it says 312 hp without shield Extenders. But yes... i do normally well enough with the MD+ AR combo.. best one so far. Are you not reading my argument? First off, I wasn't saying anything regarding extenders in my reasoning. Also I aknowledged that is says 312, but again this is likely only because CCP figured it would be unnecessary to show. I mean, when you're looking at your HUD do you really want to see decimals? I bet you 10,000,000 ISK that the game does, in fact, count decimals in your HP. If you care to take me up on that, I will go hunt down a dev. Give me the 10,000,000 isk then.... With Enhanced Shield Extender it says .... 350 hp, not 352.5 hp. I looking at it right now... as i typing. Now you're just trolling. We're talking about what the actual code lists for the variable, not what it displays in the interface. It should say 352 hp, or 353 hp if you want to ignore the 0.5, right ? It says 350 hp. That is 2 hp bellow your calculation... I normally troll... but i'm not right now.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2613	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:24:00 - [40] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: It should say 352 hp, or 353 hp if you want to ignore the 0.5, right ? It says 350 hp. That is 2 hp bellow your calculation... I normally troll... but i'm not right now. That's probably more of a fault of me guessing the numbers for passive bonuses. Shield extenders still is 2% efficacy per level, right? And Commando suit is also 2% efficacy? So I was assuming both at level 5, so 33 hp * 1.1 * 1.1 = 39.93 Then of course, 250 * 1.25 = 312.5 Thus, 312.5 + 39.93 = 352.43 If I am recalling the passive bonuses correctly and you have both at level 5 and it's only showing 350, then I'm doing something wrong.

Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:25:00 - [41] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: It should say 352 hp, or 353 hp if you want to ignore the 0.5, right ? It says 350 hp. That is 2 hp bellow your calculation... I normally troll... but i'm not right now. That's probably more of a fault of me guessing the numbers for passive bonuses. Shield extenders still is 2% efficacy per level, right? And Commando suit is also 2% efficacy? So I was assuming both at level 5, so 33 hp * 1.1 * 1.1 = 39.93 Then of course, 250 * 1.25 = 312.5 Thus, 312.5 + 39.93 = 352.43 If I am recalling the passive bonuses correctly and you have both at level 5 and it's only showing 350, then I'm doing something wrong. Or CCP got the numbers wrong .. one or the other.
Epicsting pro Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 296	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:26:00 - [42] - Quote My adv commando has. Adv shield extenders, proto reactive plate, assault scrambler rifle, exo mass driver, and a scanner. You scan the area shoot out there shield with the scambler rifle, then blow them up with the mass diver. I use this fit in pc it garenty that when I go down somebody going with me. If I remember " I'm away form my game." It has 400 shields and 345 armor with 2 hp/s.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2614	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:34:00 - [43] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: The commando suits are great. i just dunno why folk seem to slate them. sure they take a bit of work to run efficiently but i love em. at lv4 on my heavy alt and atm i just run dual recruit rifles on basic frame while i'm slowly slugging ahead for my proto suit and workign on AR's. it has a great amount of EHP, insane reload speed and enough room for an ammo pack. only reason i'm waiting on this char is cos i want either the minny or gallente suit Gallente Commando would look awesome! I mean, I hate Gallente, but the Gallente heavy looks like a monster from that fan fest concept art! Now imagine that with the Commando red . . .
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2614	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:37:00 - [44] - Quote Epicsting pro wrote: My adv commando has. Adv shield extenders, proto reactive plate, assault scrambler rifle, exo mass driver, and a scanner. You scan the area shoot out there shield with the scambler rifle, then blow them up with the mass diver. I use this fit in pc it garenty that when I go down somebody going with me. If I remember " I'm away form my game." It has 400 shields and 345 armor with 2 hp/s. I still think you'd be better with a proto armor plate than a proto reactive plate. You'd have a ton more armor and the 2 hp/s isn't really helping you. Of course, then you'd have to rely on a logi for armor repping or replace the scanner with a triage hive.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 19:54:00 - [45] - Quote Epicsting pro wrote: My adv commando has. Adv shield extenders, proto reactive plate, assault scrambler rifle, exo mass driver, and a scanner. You scan the area shoot out there shield with the scambler rifle, then blow them up with the mass diver. I use this fit in pc it garenty that when I go down somebody going with me. If I remember " I'm away form my game." It has 400 shields and 345 armor with 2 hp/s. I'm pretty sure you can't have 400 shields with an Avd shield extender .... I thought i was the only Troll in this forums... what is going on CCP ?!?!?! And proto reactive plates ? but, but.... CPU/... but
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 141	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:14:00 - [46] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: It is 312 ... here is my reasoning ; I have maxed the Shields Core Skills ... and i looking at it right now... it says 312 hp without shield Extenders. But yes... i do normally well enough with the MD+ AR combo.. best one so far. Are you not reading my argument? First off, I wasn't saying anything regarding extenders in my reasoning. Also I aknowledged that is says 312, but again this is likely only because CCP figured it would be unnecessary to show. I mean, when you're looking at your HUD do you really want to see decimals? I bet you 10,000,000 ISK that the game does, in fact, count decimals in your HP. If you care to take me up on that, I will go hunt down a dev. Give me the 10,000,000 isk then.... With Enhanced Shield Extender it says .... 350 hp, not 352.5 hp. I looking at it right now... as i typing. Now you're just trolling. We're talking about what the actual code lists for the variable, not what it displays in the interface. It should say 352 hp, or 353 hp if you want to ignore the 0.5, right ? It says 350 hp. That is 2 hp bellow your calculation... I normally troll... but i'm not right now. Are you dense? An enhanced shield extender with maxed extension skills would add 36.333 shields, and with the bonus to plates/extenders that the Commando offers, at level 5 of the Commando skill an enhanced extender would give you 39.93. Add that 312.5, and you end up with 352.43 total shields. How about you go back to elementary school so you can learn basic multiplication and addition.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 141	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:16:00 - [47] - Quote Also, Banning, you now owe Aero that 10mil ISK.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:29:00 - [48] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Give me the 10,000,000 isk then.... With Enhanced Shield Extender it says .... 350 hp, not 352.5 hp. I looking at it right now... as i typing. Now you're just trolling. We're talking about what the actual code lists for the variable, not what it displays in the interface. It should say 352 hp, or 353 hp if you want to ignore the 0.5, right ? It says 350 hp. That is 2 hp bellow your calculation... I normally troll... but i'm not right now. Quote: Are you dense? An enhanced shield extender with maxed extension skills would add 36.333 shields, and with the bonus to plates/extenders that the Commando offers, at level 5 of the Commando skill an enhanced extender would give you 39.93. Add that 312.5, and you end up with 352.43 total shields. How about you go back to elementary school so you can learn basic multiplication and addition. No one said anything about Level 5 Commando.... We was talking mostly about the Adv Commando suit ( 1 high / 1 low ) Still... it doesn't change the fact that i can see with my own eyes 312 hp without and 350 hp with. Most likely scenario is that CCP forgot to change the numbers for the bonuses. Before the 1.4 update i had 350hp shields.. after the 1.4 update with the added bonuses, i still have 350hp. Simple answer is; They added the bonuses to the descriptions, but they forgot to change the attributes. And i was only joking about 10,000,000 isk.
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 659	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:36:00 - [49] - Quote LOL this thread... Shield Extenders are worthless due to bad regen and Shotgun goes well with any suit so I won't mention them. The following fits are still considered weak compared to my Assault Gk.0 and the Heavy: Commando AK.0 - Plasma Cannon/AR 2x Complex Light Damage Mods Allotek Plasma Cannon Duvolle Assault Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Complex CPU Upgrade Commando AK.0 - Mass Driver/AR 2x Complex Light Damage Mods Freedom Mass Driver GEK-38 Assault Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Basic CPU Upgrade Commando AK.0 - Mass Driver/Scrambler Rifle -Core Skills, Electronics, and Engineering must be maxed out to fit this 2x Complex Light Damage Mods EXO-5 Mass Driver CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Basic Armor Plate
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:41:00 - [50] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: LOL this thread... Shield Extenders are worthless due to bad regen and Shotgun goes well with any suit so I won't mention them. The following fits are still considered weak compared to my Assault Gk.0 and the Heavy: Commando AK.0 - Plasma Cannon/AR 2x Complex Light Damage Mods Allotek Plasma Cannon Duvolle Assault Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Complex CPU Upgrade Commando AK.0 - Mass Driver/AR 2x Complex Light Damage Mods Freedom Mass Driver GEK-38 Assault Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Basic CPU Upgrade Commando AK.0 - Mass Driver/Scrambler Rifle -Core Skills, Electronics, and Engineering must be maxed out to fit this 2x Complex Light Damage Mods EXO-5 Mass Driver CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Basic Armor Plate Finally !! someone that knows what is talking about .... thanks mate.

Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 141	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:52:00 - [51] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Give me the 10,000,000 isk then.... With Enhanced Shield Extender it says .... 350 hp, not 352.5 hp. I looking at it right now... as i typing. Now you're just trolling. We're talking about what the actual code lists for the variable, not what it displays in the interface. It should say 352 hp, or 353 hp if you want to ignore the 0.5, right ? It says 350 hp. That is 2 hp bellow your calculation... I normally troll... but i'm not right now. Quote: Are you dense? An enhanced shield extender with maxed extension skills would add 36.333 shields, and with the bonus to plates/extenders that the Commando offers, at level 5 of the Commando skill an enhanced extender would give you 39.93. Add that 312.5, and you end up with 352.43 total shields. How about you go back to elementary school so you can learn basic multiplication and addition. No one said anything about Level 5 Commando.... We was talking mostly about the Adv Commando suit ( 1 high / 1 low ) Still... it doesn't change the fact that i can see with my own eyes 312 hp without and 350 hp with. Most likely scenario is that CCP forgot to change the numbers for the bonuses. Before the 1.4 update i had 350hp shields.. after the 1.4 update with the added bonuses, i still have 350hp. Simple answer is; They added the bonuses to the descriptions, but they forgot to change the attributes. And i was only joking about 10,000,000 isk. Do you not have the Commando skill at 5? Because that would throw off the numbers you're seeing.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1602	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:53:00 - [52] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Yes, believe it or not. Had the Commando from the beginning, realized it was terrible, then only occasionally went back to it to try something new and realize it still is terrible, but not today! My urge kicked in again and I found something somewhat decent. Commando A/1-Series ELM-7 Laser Rifle CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Armor Plate Compact Nanohive 337 Shield 424 Armor I also have Shield Upgrades, Armor Upgrades, and Biotics at Level 4 Figured the work part of the Commando is only 1 low slot, which traditionally thinking has to go to a armor repper. Well decided to put the reps in the hive so I can use that slot for a plate, and man it's a world of difference! Laser rifle is great for taking out anyone at distance, as usual, and the assault scrambler rifle provides excellent mid-close range firepower. Also since it has a large clip than the AR, it means you can constantly fire for a longer time then take advantage of that quick reload speed of the Commando and get right back at it, and then if someone gets too close there's the 240 melee damage. Works much better if you have a logi, but you don't necessarily need one. I'm almost doing as well as with my Amarr Assault. Almost. Need to get the advanced triage hives so I can carry more than one with me. This seems legit. The closest I've got to being able to use effectively a commando was with GLU-5 and GEK combo.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:57:00 - [53] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: [quote=Delanus Turgias] Quote: Are you dense? An enhanced shield extender with maxed extension skills would add 36.333 shields, and with the bonus to plates/extenders that the Commando offers, at level 5 of the Commando skill an enhanced extender would give you 39.93. Add that 312.5, and you end up with 352.43 total shields. How about you go back to elementary school so you can learn basic multiplication and addition. No one said anything about Level 5 Commando.... We was talking mostly about the Adv Commando suit ( 1 high / 1 low ) Still... it doesn't change the fact that i can see with my own eyes 312 hp without and 350 hp with. Most likely scenario is that CCP forgot to change the numbers for the bonuses. Before the 1.4 update i had 350hp shields.. after the 1.4 update with the added bonuses, i still have 350hp. Simple answer is; They added the bonuses to the descriptions, but they forgot to change the attributes. And i was only joking about 10,000,000 isk. Do you not have the Commando skill at 5? Because that would throw off the numbers you're seeing. I stopped at level 4 ... i just can't see myself using the proto one. To much isk for what it is a very rubbish suit. I working i maxing Core / electronics / and Engineering before i even think about it.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1394	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:10:00 - [54] - Quote We are the chosen race, we can handle two light weapons! The commando is really fun to run in pubs, I'm not sure what will happen if I pull it out in a pc. I really like running the laser/gek combo. Melt em from far, and if they manage to approach you pull the gek out.
Destroyer Rob Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:12:00 - [55] - Quote but im a minmatar in a amarr suit
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1027	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:30:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: I've used this exact fit a time or two with decent success. The MD is a good complimentary weapon for the laser, too. It's great for picking off bads that have taken cover from your LR. Sadly Aero has a condition. He cant touch dirty MInmatar weapons without feeling queasy. I approve of the attitude, dog. I certainly don't want hand-crafted Matari weapons sullied by your dirty, bloody hands. I also have forgone my beloved HMG because I just can't shake the spiritual putrescence that impregnates Ammarian suits and equipment. Seen some long marches back in the mortal days when we were smashing down the Holders and liberating our people. But waiting for that Minmatar Heavy suit has been the longest march of all.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:39:00 - [57] - Quote Destroyer Rob wrote: but im a minmatar in a amarr suit Is ok mate... I'm a Caldari that is posing as an Amarr, that mostly uses Gallente suits, and takes advantage of the Minmatar technology.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2621	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:40:00 - [58] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: LOL this thread... Shield Extenders are worthless due to bad regen and Shotgun goes well with any suit so I won't mention them. The following fits are still considered weak compared to my Assault Gk.0 and the Heavy: Commando AK.0 - Plasma Cannon/AR 2x Complex Light Damage Mods Allotek Plasma Cannon Duvolle Assault Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Complex CPU Upgrade Commando AK.0 - Mass Driver/AR 2x Complex Light Damage Mods Freedom Mass Driver GEK-38 Assault Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Basic CPU Upgrade Commando AK.0 - Mass Driver/Scrambler Rifle -Core Skills, Electronics, and Engineering must be maxed out to fit this 2x Complex Light Damage Mods EXO-5 Mass Driver CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Allotek Nanohive (R) Basic Armor Plate LOL wat? Do you even 'mando bro?
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1603	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:49:00 - [59] - Quote Next to Aero's LAser/ASCR combination, the amount of useful Commando loadouts has increased a little: Tested commando L weapon combinations: Laser+ASCR TAC+AR ASCR+MASS AR/ASCR+SWARM SNIPER+SWARM SCR R+SCR R Anything else im missing?
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1622	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:51:00 - [60] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Next to Aero's LAser/ASCR combination, the amount of useful Commando loadouts has increased a little: Tested commando L weapon combinations: Laser+ASCR TAC+AR ASCR+MASS AR/ASCR+SWARM SNIPER+SWARM SCR R+SCR R Anything else im missing? You only missing the one that TRULY works ; Mass Driver + Assault Rifle.



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