Its an AV weapon. Does an AV weapon need splash damage to destroy vehicals? Seems very unnecessary, just a clutch to one hit proto scouts and other ppl with 2 to 4 splash hits, pending on their SP/gear. Seriously, its an AV weapon. Removing splash would make it closer to AV only and drastically reduce objective camping with FGs. Youd actually be able to hack the objective panel for once!

to 4 splash hits

It's not an AV weapon

It is an anti material weapon

It is designed to destroy anything.

HTFU!

Why are you hanging around for that?

Get the hell out the way! Are you trying to get killed so you can QQ?

Do you hang around in the same spot while getting spammed by MD splash damage?

It should have a knockback effect instead of splash damage

thats a really cool idea but it would make hacking objectives literally impossible. kinda wanna approve it for the troll

Real life < Lore < balance.

Its cool that real life is less important than lore, nothing wrong with that we can deal, but its not cool that Lore is screwing up the balance of the game. Why are you cool with an unbalanced game? If you want lore to be in control of everything go play D&D

Real life < Lore < balance.

Its cool that real life is less important than lore, nothing wrong with that we can deal, but its not cool that Lore is screwing up the balance of the game. Why are you cool with an unbalanced game? If you want lore to be in control of everything go play D&D

IMO FG should have Reduced effectivness vs Infantry. removing Splash damage and giving it a ''piercing'' effect (Hit stuff in a straight line.even through multiple red dots/vehicles) would be a lot better.

Then Change damage values between Regular FG and Assault (so that the regular has more DM than the assault but is slower)

And then we are talking....

lolol ppl still do MD/flux? i barely see that weapon anymore. Sooooo happy

We don't need another primary AV weapon that is worthless vs infantry. It's bad enough we have to use a fat slow heavy to use it, but the fact that it is also useful against infantry is the perfect combo. You know, kinda like how tanks are good at both AV and anti-infantry.

I personally think that all weapons should double as AV.

lol you obviously dont forge, i have respect for you dispite your insults. Their elivated on places you can not shoot them. Some times there is no cover to hang around in instead. your so offfended x) i hurt your feelings?

that would be great, id like it. The only promblem is how inconsistent it is, itd be really good for balance but i kinda think you should be OHKed if directly hit. They do 2500+ damage lol

The only thing effecting the balance of the FG is that nobody wants to get a damn MLT FG and 1 shot the PROTO FG sniper on top of the damn tower.

Don't even try to say "wah you don't know where he is shooting from" That BS I do it all the damn time. I'm a counter Tower FG Sniper - FG Sniper. I also take out regular tiny snipers on top of towers from the ground with my AFG. It very possible.

"WahhhhHHHH he has uplinks he will respawn" Kill his ass again!

Stop being lazy! HTFU!

Yea, I do FG!

I do it on the ground!

You crying about tower campers is gonna ruin my ground game!

Your real issue is with tower campers! It's ok! Just let it out!

Honestly, nerfing the FG because of Tower Campers will ruin the weapon for those of us who actually stay on the ground and don't resort to scrub tactics.

Stop being lazy! HTFU!

Yea, you're complaining about splash damage from a Tower Forge Gunner.

If I can evade a Tower Forge Gunner in my Fully Tanked 3 Comp plate Proto heavy Suit there isn't a suit in the game that cannot do the same. Stop crying and get the hell out the way!

There is absolutely no reason to nerf the FG!

It's not a damn AV weapon! It is designed to kill infantry, destroy vehicles, and destroy installations!

Well i did not talk about a nerf to damage. just a splash damage reduction/removal so that scrubs stop abusing the weapon (and then you would see a lot less Fgs) But a piercing effect giving it (in the hand of a skilled player) the ability to nail 2+ enemies if they are in a striaght line. There by, still effective vs Infantry , only a higher level of skilled is needed.
Also reserving the FG's ability to scare/Destroy Vehicles away effectivley.

The Assault FG and Regular FG damage swap is regarding the fact every other assault version is less powerful than the regular one,but faster.

AV designed weapons should have 0 splash, by that method it is up to CCP to decide if the Forge gun is AV or AI, you cannot have weapons that are amazing at both, or you will wind up with what we have now, 1 guy locking down entire areas due to simple point and click interface.

your argument is again flawed. He has a forge gun on top of a tower, if the person with the forge is any intelligent he will destroy your dropship every time you try. There is also no "out of the way" when hes on a tower, he sees the entire map? Including the objectives, it ruins games! Never mind what it is designed for, its not balanced. Its too effective at well, everything. It can be as effective as it needs to be for AV, its true purpose, but its doing everything. Thats not cool, Jaraiya. Its not really a nerf, it can still kill infantry with some effort (btw, most of my FG freinds say their kills on infaintry are mostly direct hits) and wont change its ability to kill instilations and vehicals. I promise itd be okay without splash!! The only thing that will change is you needing more effort to forge snipe infaintry and you can no longer camp the objective panel. Those are positive improvements and will do alot to balance the weapon. You can not say it is balanced with everything it does. Its more all purpose than an AR is now

Love this idea except for the last statement.
Reason being that the basic FG is much, much, much easier to use at ground level than my aFG, thus if you remove splash/drop it to 7-10%, but increase the damage of the easy use variant, how are you balancing the weapon?
DPS is not really relevant when comparing the three variations of FG to a ground FGer.